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Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Jun 2016
Dignity, Fairness and Respect in Disability Benefits
It is a great honour to be elected to the Parliament and an even greater honour to represent the area that I was born in and have spent most of my life in. Lothian is a great place in which to live, work, play and study, but the region faces challenges. I will seek to represen...
Jeremy Balfour Con Chamber
23 Nov 2016
Social Security
Under DLA, people still had to go through an assessment, fill out forms—which was stressful—and come to tribunals. I benefited from DLA for 20 years. Suddenly to say that DLA was perfect is simply to misrepresent the situation for many people in Scotland. PIP has improved many...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
16 May 2017
Disabled People
I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate. I make it clear that I am registered as disabled, I am in receipt of PIP and was for 20 years a DLA tribunal and then PIP tribunal member. I will start with a comment that is aimed not necessarily solely at the minister, but a...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
07 Sep 2017
Social Security (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you very much for coming along. I have a couple of quick questions and I am happy for anyone to answer them. You mentioned transferring from DLA to PIP without any reassessment. Given that the regulations and criteria are different for DLA and for PIP, how would someone ...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con Committee
27 Feb 2020
Scottish Fiscal Commission
Professor Smith, I was interested in your response to Alison Johnstone’s first question. You suggested that there has been a change in the regulations on DLA for children. That is not my understanding, so I would be interested to get a bit more information on that. I understan...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
23 Nov 2016
Social Security
I declare an interest, as I am in receipt of PIP and, until May this year, was a tribunal member who heard PIP and DLA cases. As a Scottish Conservative, I want to see three principles at the heart of a new welfare system. The system should support those in need; should be fl...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
01 Feb 2018
Social Security (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will work through the amendments backwards. We will be supporting Mark Griffin’s amendment 139 and Ruth Maguire’s amendment 112, both of which are important. They deal with different disabilities and different forms of inclusion, so it would be helpful to have them both in t...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con Committee
28 Oct 2021
Subordinate Legislation
I have a policy difference with you, minister, in that, for me, the way to resolve the issue would have been to give any child who was on DLA or PIP the winter heating allowance. They would not have to be on the highest rate. I think that I made that point in committee in the ...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
13 Jan 2022
Budget Scrutiny 2022-23
In light of that helpful answer, we can presume that the Scottish Government will pay the extra £10 in December this year. My final question on this section is about those who are on DLA and who have not been moved across to PIP. Evidence that we took from a number of groups ...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
21 Nov 2024
Subordinate Legislation
I wish a good morning to you and your team, cabinet secretary. We welcome the transfer, as it seems to be the final piece in the jigsaw. I have a couple of questions. In your statement, you said that you said that if there is a change in a claimant’s circumstances, the DWP ...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Oct 2016
Building a Fairer Scotland
I do not know whether the member has read the current social security legislation, but it already gives the department or the tribunal that is making the decision the ability to make a lifetime award. I have sat on DLA and PIP tribunals for more than 20 years, and we have ofte...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
23 Nov 2016
Social Security
Does Alison Johnstone accept that many people are transferred seamlessly from DLA to PIP? Their cases are not being heard simply because they do not correspond with us or with MPs. We have to take them into account when we are discussing the issues.
Jeremy Balfour Con Chamber
16 May 2017
Disabled People
If Sandra White will bear with me, I will develop that towards the end of my speech, if I have time. It is important that we do not look at disability and say that a person has a disability and therefore should get an award. It is much better to ask what effect the disability...
Jeremy Balfour Con Chamber
16 May 2017
Disabled People
If the minister will bear with me, I will come back to her. A number of years ago, a person who had artificial legs came to the tribunal of which I was a member. With the use of sticks, she could walk a fair distance, so she did not get the old DLA award. That seemed to be rig...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
07 Sep 2017
Subordinate Legislation
Yes. It is on Jeremy Hewer’s response to Alison Johnstone’s question about people who already get universal credit and who will not have the choice. How do you envisage their being able to get that choice in the longer term? Will they have to reapply? We talked about the move ...
Jeremy Balfour Con Chamber
19 Sep 2017
Dignity, Equality and Human Rights
Does Mr Adam recognise that we have to be careful with our language and that, when we talk about disabled people, that means lots of individuals with lots of different experiences? For example, I talked to a lady on Saturday who was not entitled to DLA but who is now entitled ...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
28 Sep 2017
Social Security (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Twenty years ago, when DLA was introduced as a new benefit, there was as much representation at tribunals as there is for PIP these days—in fact, there was probably more. Are you saying that people will not need independent advice under the new system if we get it right?
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con Committee
05 Oct 2017
Social Security (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I want to follow up on what has been said. It would be interesting to get a view from Steven McAvoy, given his tribunal experience. There has been a reasonable amount of latitude in the interpretation of rules on DLA and, to a degree, on PIP. Tribunals can reach very differen...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
05 Oct 2017
Social Security (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have a couple of questions. Maybe Craig Smith and Peter Hastie can answer the first one, and we can bring in Hugh Robertson for the second one. My experience is that people with mental health conditions who applied for DLA and those who now apply for PIP are often the peopl...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
05 Oct 2017
Social Security (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Can I say for the record that I forgot to declare that I sat on PIP and DLA tribunals and I am in receipt of PIP? My apologies for that.
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
19 Dec 2017
Social Security (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I remind members that I am in receipt of a PIP. As others have done, I welcome the bill, and I thank the clerks and all those people who gave evidence to the Social Security Committee. However, I think that there is a long way to go at stages 2 and 3, because the bill leaves ...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
22 Feb 2018
Social Security (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I support the way in which Mark Griffin has gone about amendment 171, and it is the right way forward. My slight concern is about the wording, which refers to “assessment of the individual’s mental health”. My understanding is that that is not what the assessment is about, w...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
29 Mar 2018
Social Security Tribunal
My second question relates to the make-up of the tribunals. Tribunals concerning DLA, PIP and attendance allowance, which we will probably be examining most, are currently three-member tribunals. One of the members is someone with a disability or with experience of having a di...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
29 Mar 2018
Social Security Tribunal
That leads me to my next question. From your experience of sitting on tribunals over a number of years, why do you think that such a high percentage of tribunals are successful compared with decisions regarding DLA? Is there something fairer about tribunals? What lessons can t...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
14 Jun 2018
Passported Benefits
That is helpful and clarifies a bit of the submission that I must have misread. I have a quick question on the point that you made about people who lost their cars because of the change in regulations. Do you have figures on people who now have a car—in particular, people wi...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con Committee
01 Nov 2018
Subordinate Legislation
Good morning, cabinet secretary, and thank you for your introduction, which was very helpful. I seek clarification with regard to regulation 4(4), which states that “The authority to determine the composition of the First-tier Tribunal” may be made by “the Chamber Presiden...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
05 Sep 2019
Benefit Take-up
They are different. There are things that I would be entitled to under DLA that I would not be entitled to under—
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
11 Mar 2020
First-tier Tribunal for Scotland Housing and Property Chamber
My final question is on how the tribunals operate. I understand that their proceedings are not recorded, which surprises me. Certainly, the proceedings of the tribunals for PIP and DLA that form part of the Scottish Government’s plans will all be recorded, and it is the genera...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
24 Sep 2020
Subordinate Legislation
Inaudible.—and it is a positive step forward. However, there is an issue, which I was trying through my questions to raise with the cabinet secretary, that those children and young people who are not on the highest rate of care component should still be entitled to a winter h...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
19 Nov 2020
Social Security Response to Covid-19 (Inquiry)
That is helpful. As we have heard, there has been a delay to when we will deliver DLA and PIP in Scotland through the agency. As we design the system, are there any positives that we have learned from the past six or seven months that could make it easier for people to claim o...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
24 Feb 2021
Citizens Advice Scotland
I, too, thank Christine Grahame for bringing the debate to the Scottish Parliament, with the opportunity that it brings us to acknowledge the important work of the 59 citizens advice bureaux that are located across Scotland, which are independent and impartial, and offer confi...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con Committee
04 Mar 2021
Subordinate Legislation
I want to follow up on Pauline McNeill’s question on the difference between “at night” and “throughout the night”. I understand the comment that you made about the guidance that will go to decision makers, but I still have a slight concern about how that will be interpreted by...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
16 Sep 2021
Fairer and More Equal Society
I am slightly confused by that line of argument, because all social security benefits are demand led, yet this Government has been very happy to take on PIP and DLA, which, again, go up at different times. How will we pay for those?
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
28 Oct 2021
Subordinate Legislation
I am grateful for that helpful explanation, minister. I do not want to hold back the committee’s considerations for too long—I understand that this is quite technical stuff—but I am slightly unclear about a certain point. I know that there are different criteria for deciding ...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
16 Dec 2021
Adult Disability Payment
With the first panel, we discussed the issue of people who are presently on DLA and who will come off it when they transfer across. That may affect not only mobility; with regard to those with variable conditions, it might mean that they lose the benefit. Do you know from talk...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
27 Jan 2022
Subordinate Legislation
I thank Ms Blair for that answer. Some of the key decisions around PIP and DLA have been made by the Supreme Court, so any decision that might be made by the Supreme Court, if it is an English case on PIP, will not be binding on the Scottish system. Can she clarify that all de...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
09 Jun 2022
Subordinate Legislation
I would just make a point of clarification for the minister: I do not think that anyone from Social Security Scotland works for him. It is a totally independent body away from Scottish Government. I say that merely so there is no misunderstanding on that. I have a quick quest...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
09 Jun 2022
Subordinate Legislation
My understanding is that the backdating that is available is different for DLA compared to that for PIP, and that there may be people who will be less well off as a result of that transfer happening. Has any mitigation been considered for that?
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
09 Jun 2022
Subordinate Legislation
To follow that up, will people be less well off for that period under DLA compared to PIP, or it is the other way around? Which of the two is likely to see somebody getting that backdating happening quicker, or are they both the same?
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
29 Jun 2022
Social Security (Special Rules for End of Life) Bill
It feels a bit like déjà vu, as we had a similar debate on a different social security issue last week. Last week, the minister felt that I was slightly partisan in my comments, so I will try to be more constructive this week. However, it is worth pointing out, particularly a...
Jeremy Balfour Con Committee
21 Nov 2024
Subordinate Legislation
What advice would Social Security Scotland give to somebody on whether it would be helpful to them to swap over to the new system? Will people be referred to some kind of adviser? Obviously, everyone’s circumstances are different—for some people there has been a benefit to swa...
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 09 June 2016

09 Jun 2016 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Dignity, Fairness and Respect in Disability Benefits

It is a great honour to be elected to the Parliament and an even greater honour to represent the area that I was born in and have spent most of my life in. Lothian is a great place in which to live, work, play and study, but the region faces challenges. I will seek to represent and lobby on behalf of all my constituents, who have put me here for a five-year term.

Ruth Davidson and the Conservatives appealed to a wide audience during the election campaign. In the constituency that I fought—Midlothian North and Musselburgh—the Conservative vote went up by 9 per cent. As I went from door to door, many people told me that they were voting Conservative for the first time because they were disillusioned with Labour and they wanted to hold the Government to account, which is what I and my colleagues will do over the next five years.

I thank previous members Gavin Brown and Cameron Buchanan and I record my gratitude to David McLetchie, who sadly passed away during the previous parliamentary session. I have been in politics since my university days and I saw David McLetchie as a role model for how people should conduct themselves.

I thank my family for their support. I also thank NHS Lothian. During the election campaign, I sadly had a heart problem, which meant that I ended up spending six days in Edinburgh royal infirmary, where I had superb care. I thank the staff there and all who helped me through that period.

I also thank the staff in the Parliament for the way in which they have made all the new members feel welcome.

When I entered this place, I was told that I would have to make difficult decisions and would sometimes have to compromise. I did not realise that that would happen so early in my time as an MSP. Only 16 days after I was elected, Hibs won the Scottish cup. On the Monday after that, somebody lodged a motion that asked us to congratulate Hibs on their win. As a lifelong Hearts supporter, I had to make both a difficult decision and a compromise as I signed that motion.

I turn to this afternoon’s debate. I fully support the amendment lodged by my colleague. I should declare two interests at this stage. For 22 years, up until 5 May, I worked as a disabled member on tribunals that heard DLA and PIP cases. Secondly, I am personally in receipt of PIP, and previously received DLA.

I am pleased that the powers have been devolved to this Parliament, and I hope that the Scottish Government will take those powers on as soon as possible, so that we can hold it accountable and can move on from where we are. The danger is that we keep looking back and blaming others. The powers are there. Let us take them and move forward, but as we move forward let us not just change for change’s sake. PIP was a change for many people, with reassessment, tribunals and form filling, and to unsettle them with yet more change for the sake of it would be unhelpful for them and their families. Where alterations and changes need to take place, let us make them, but let us ensure that we do not throw the baby out with the bath water.

I think that PIP has bedded down and is working well. The majority of people are better off than they were under DLA. The beauty of PIP is that it focuses not on a diagnosis and not on a disability, but on how the individual’s needs can be met. I will concentrate on two areas of PIP that we need to look at as we go forward.

Certain people, because of the nature of their disabilities, seem to be struggling to get renewed PIP. The first example is people who have epilepsy that is uncontrolled, which can have a devastating effect on their lives. The 50 per cent rule means that sometimes they miss out, and it would be worth the Government and the Parliament looking at that afresh.

The second area is how we define appliances. I do not know how many members put their socks or tights on by sitting on the bed this morning, but the interpretation of the upper tribunals is that that would be seen as using an aid and an appliance. That seems to me to be far too broad and not what people expected, so we need to look at such terms.

We all agree that we need disability benefits, but they should be focused on the individual and should always be there to help that person and their family be all that they can be and to flourish and experience life as much as possible. Disability benefits should not—as they are sometimes seen as doing—hold people back and prevent them from being who they are meant to be.

15:13  

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