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Dean Lockhart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con Chamber
15 Jan 2019
Carbon-neutral Economy (Just Transition)
I start by referring to my entry in the register of interests, in relation to a smart-meter business that is based in England This has been an important debate. It deals with one of the most pressing and critical challenges that face this generation and future ones: how to a...
The Convener Con Committee
16 Nov 2021
COP26 Outcomes
Thanks for those opening remarks and perspectives, which are very valuable to the committee. There are clearly different views about the headlines, takeaways and implications of the Glasgow climate pact. Senator John Kerry described the final deal as “imperfect”, but it has be...
The Convener Con Committee
19 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Our next agenda item is the first evidence session in our inquiry into increasing energy prices. The recent significant increases in wholesale and domestic energy prices have quite rightly received a lot of attention in recent weeks, and they are causing real concerns for many...
The Convener Con Committee
19 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Thank you for that comprehensive answer, Dr Hannon. You have set the scene well, and I am sure that we will pick up on a number of those points. I put the same question to Tim Lord.
The Convener Con Committee
19 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
That is great, Tim. Thank you very much for those insights. I think that you have anticipated one of our questions, which is on how to deal with some of the challenges. Dr Lowes, I put the same question to you.
The Convener Con Committee
19 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Thank you. The panel has set out a great number of issues that committee members will want to explore. My follow-up question is about the best policy response. What policy response would you like to see from the Scottish Government and the UK Government to deal with the short...
The Convener Con Committee
19 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Thank you for that, Dr Hannon. I know that some of my colleagues want to address those issues after me. I put the same question to Tim Lord.
The Convener Con Committee
19 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
I put the same question to Dr Lowes.
The Convener Con Committee
19 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
The opening remarks have covered a huge number of interesting issues. I will now bring in other committee members.
The Convener Con Committee
19 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Thanks very much. I now bring in Mark Ruskell.
The Convener Con Committee
19 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Monica Lennon has a supplementary question.
The Convener Con Committee
19 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
I bring in Natalie Don, who joins us remotely.
The Convener Con Committee
19 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
We are running slightly behind, but I would appreciate it if I could ask one final question of Tim Lord. One of the requirements that you mention in relation to mobilising private capital to finance retrofitting and decarbonisation in the short term is the development of what...
The Convener Con Committee
19 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Thank you very much, Tim, and thank you, Dr Hannon and Dr Lowes. That brings us to the end of our allocated time. It has been an excellent session—you have raised a number of challenges and a number of potential solutions. We very much appreciate your time this morning. We wil...
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Our next agenda item is our second evidence session in our inquiry into energy prices. We are looking into what is driving the increase in energy prices, what impact it is having and what can be done to alleviate that. Today, we will hear from two panels. The first panel will ...
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
You raise a number of points that members will want to come in on, which go beyond the availability of advice. I will bring in Frazer Scott and then Alastair Wilcox on the question of advice.
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Thank you very much for that perspective. I address the same question to Alastair Wilcox.
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
I have a supplemental question about issues that have been brought up in the opening remarks. Given the significant increase in demand for your services, which is not surprising, has each of your organisations been able to increase staffing and advice on the subject? Could the...
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
You have covered a number of points that I am sure my colleagues will want to pick up on. I put the same question to Frazer Scott.
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Thank you for that perspective. I put the same question to Chris Birt.
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Before I hand over to Jackie Dunbar, I say to our panel members that, as we still have quite a few members to bring into this very important discussion, if you keep your answers fairly concise, that will mean that we can bring in all members.
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Thank you, Jackie.
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Thank you, Monica. Our final questions will come from Mark Ruskell, who is joining us remotely.
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
That brings us to the end of our allocated time. I thank the witnesses for their comprehensive and insightful contributions to our inquiry into this very important issue. I suspend the meeting briefly for a change of witnesses. 11:17 Meeting suspended. 11:19 On resuming—
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Our second panel this morning is made up of energy producers and suppliers. Keith Anderson, chief executive officer, ScottishPower, is joining us in person—good morning, Mr Anderson. I also welcome to the meeting Dan Alchin, director of regulation, Energy UK and Ross Dornan, m...
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Thanks very much for that comprehensive answer. It is encouraging to hear your view that energy security, decarbonisation and achieving net zero are consistent goals.
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Thank you very much for those remarks. 11:30
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
I have a brief follow-up question. We have a lot of ground to cover, although I appreciate that your opening remarks will have covered some of the issues that my colleagues want to bring up. I am going to ask you all for a forecast. What is the outlook for energy prices in th...
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
I appreciate those thoughts, given that it is so difficult to predict. I would welcome Ross Dornan’s thoughts, and then I will bring in Dan Alchin.
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
I thank Dan Alchin and our other panel members for setting the scene so well.
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Keith Anderson, the margin calls that you mentioned are quite remarkable. There may have been a perception before this crisis that this was a sector of regulated utilities operating in a low-risk environment, but that is clearly not the case. Thank you for that background.
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Next up is Monica Lennon.
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Yes, that is fantastic, Monica. The final set of questions comes from Mark Ruskell, who joins us online.
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Ross, I am afraid—
The Convener Con Committee
26 Apr 2022
Energy Price Rises
Mark, I really do not want to bring the discussion to an end, but we are up against the clock; in fact, we are well over time. That brings us to the end of our allocated time. I thank our panel members for attending, and for their comprehensive insights and recommendations. W...
The Convener Con Committee
10 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
Our next agenda item is an evidence session in our inquiry into the significant increase in energy prices that we have all witnessed in recent months, what is driving the increase, the impact that it is having and what can be done to alleviate the worst impacts of increasing e...
The Convener Con Committee
10 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
Thank you for those opening remarks, which set the scene very well. We move on to questions and answers; I will ask a couple of questions before I bring in other colleagues. In your opening remarks, you mentioned that Ofgem will introduce new measures to boost financial resil...
The Convener Con Committee
10 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
You also mentioned in your opening remarks that around 30 energy supplier companies have failed and have had to close shop since early 2021. I believe that the supplier of last resort—SOLR—process has added £2.8 billion to consumer bills, which is on top of the increasing whol...
The Convener Con Committee
10 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
In the banking sector, for example, the Financial Conduct Authority imposes market-risk and capital-adequacy limitations. I know that hindsight is a wonderful thing, but do you think that those capital adequacy and risk buffers should have been in place 24 months ago for new s...
The Convener Con Committee
10 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
The supplier of last resort process has added £2.8 billion to consumer bills. How has that been spread to the average consumer’s bill? Do you have a number on what each domestic consumer will have to contribute in their bills towards the cost of that process?
The Convener Con Committee
10 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
I am sure that other members will want to come back to some of those issues. I will bring in Fiona Hyslop.
The Convener Con Committee
10 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
Liam Kerr has a supplementary question.
The Convener Con Committee
10 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
That is great—thanks. Next up is Jackie Dunbar, to be followed by Monica Lennon. Over to you, please, Jackie.
The Convener Con Committee
10 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
Eleanor Whitham is next up.
The Convener Con Committee
10 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
I have a couple of questions, and there are a couple of supplementaries to follow up on this line of questioning. Going back to the 29 energy companies that have failed over the past 18 months—in some cases because of financial mismanagement in terms of a lack of hedging, whi...
The Convener Con Committee
10 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
I totally understand that, and I appreciate the response. 10:30
The Convener Con Committee
10 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
Fiona Hyslop has the final set of questions.
The Convener Con Committee
10 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
That brings us to the end of our allocated time. I thank both witnesses for giving evidence to the committee this morning. It was very much appreciated. The committee’s scrutiny will continue tomorrow, when we will hear from Greg Hands MP, Minister of State in the Department ...
The Convener Con Committee
11 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
Our main agenda item today is an evidence session in our inquiry that is looking at the significant increase in energy prices, what is driving it, what impact it is having and what can be done to alleviate the worst impacts. Yesterday, we heard from the Office of Gas and Elect...
The Convener Con Committee
11 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
Yes—you are coming through loud and clear. Thank you very much for accepting our invitation and giving of your time to give evidence. We have allocated an hour for the session. I believe that you have an opening statement.
The Convener Con Committee
11 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
Thank you for those opening remarks, minister. My first question concerns the energy supply companies that have left the market over the past 18 months. As you know, around 30 suppliers have done so. The supplier of last resort process has added £2.8 billion to consumer bills,...
The Convener Con Committee
11 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
In other evidence that the committee has heard, there has been speculation that the wholesale price of gas will remain high for the foreseeable future for the reasons that you mentioned in your opening remarks, such as global issues that are outwith our control. What action wi...
The Convener Con Committee
11 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
Thank you, minister. I will bring in committee members to explore some of those issues. I call Fiona Hyslop, to be followed by Monica Lennon. Interruption. Actually, I think that Monica will be first.
The Convener Con Committee
11 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
I will bring in Fiona Hyslop next.
The Convener Con Committee
11 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
It looks as though we have a slight problem with the minister’s connection.
The Convener Con Committee
11 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
Minister, your screen froze for a second. Could you go back a sentence?
The Convener Con Committee
11 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
We move to questions from Mark Ruskell.
The Convener Con Committee
11 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
It looks as if we are having another slight technical issue. Interruption. Minister, I am sorry—your screen froze for a second. Could you backtrack 10 or 15 seconds?
The Convener Con Committee
11 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
Liam Kerr has a very brief supplementary question in that area. 09:45
The Convener Con Committee
11 May 2022
Energy Price Rises
Thank you. That brings us to the end of our allocated time. Minister, I appreciate that you have to go at 10 o’clock, so I thank you very much for taking part in this meeting. It is very much appreciated. It was good to see you again. Enjoy the rest of your day. I now close t...
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 15 January 2019

15 Jan 2019 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Carbon-neutral Economy (Just Transition)
Lockhart, Dean Con Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

I start by referring to my entry in the register of interests, in relation to a smart-meter business that is based in England

This has been an important debate. It deals with one of the most pressing and critical challenges that face this generation and future ones: how to address climate change by transitioning to a carbon-neutral economy and society. As has been mentioned by a number of members, the backdrop to the debate are the challenges and goals that were set out in the Paris climate change agreement, which seeks to limit global temperature rises to well below 2°C and to pursue efforts to limit the increase to 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels.

Here in Scotland, we have seen significant progress over the past 30 years. Emissions have reduced by 49 per cent since 1990, and much progress has been made towards the goal of having a carbon-neutral economy. However, progress has varied considerably across sectors. Emissions cuts of 69 per cent from the energy sector and 73 per cent from waste contrast with lower reductions of only 28 per cent from agriculture, 21 per cent from the residential sector and just 3 per cent from transport.

In her opening speech, the cabinet secretary set out the steps that the Scottish Government is taking to deliver future reductions in emissions through the climate change plan, the just transition commission and other initiatives. The targets include our having a wholly decarbonised electricity system by 2030, a 96 per cent reduction in emissions from the services sector, and a 76 per cent reduction in residential emissions.

Those targets are ambitious and we can all support them, but significant challenges need to be addressed if we are to deliver the reductions, and do so in a way that is just and fair to all members of society. Some of those challenges have been raised during the debate. Jamie Halcro Johnston and other members highlighted the fact that the climate change plan needs to set out more detail on how the Scottish Government will deliver emissions reductions. That concern was raised during the committee inquiry into the climate change plan. The Existing Homes Alliance Scotland told the Economy, Jobs and Fair Work Committee:

“It is right to have such ambition, but it cannot be wishful thinking—it must be backed up by credible policies and resources to give us the confidence that the target will be met.”—[Official Report, Economy, Jobs and Fair Work Committee, 31 January 2017; c 3.]

The WWF agreed, and said:

“we are disappointed by the level of policy detail”

and called for a

“clear indication of the all the policies and proposals that will deliver the targets”—[Official Report, Economy, Jobs and Fair Work Committee, 31 January 2017; c 26.]

That evidence led the committee to recommend that additional details on budgets, targets, timelines and policies should be included in the climate change plan in order to deliver a just transition in a transparent manner. As we debate the Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill in the weeks and months to come, I look forward to the Government setting out the detail of how the targets will be delivered.

In addition to more clarity and detail on policy, a whole-of-Government approach needs to be taken to delivery of a carbon-neutral economy. The briefing from the Scottish carbon capture and storage group that was circulated yesterday called for a just transition to be part of an industrial strategy that identifies the industries that will emerge in a low-carbon economy, and the industries and sectors that will become less viable, as a result. It said that the strategy should take a co-ordinated approach in order to ensure that the jobs and skills from declining industries can be transferred to the new emerging sectors.

In his opening speech, Maurice Golden set out a number of constructive proposals on how the strategy could be delivered. He referred to an ambitious circular economy programme that would add more than 40,000 jobs if the Scottish Government were to embed such practice across all portfolio areas. That would include the creation of new institutions including a design academy, an institute of reuse, microplastic recycling facilities and waste hubs, in order to promote best practice across Scotland.

The Scottish Government talked about taking a co-ordinated and strategic approach. It can facilitate the delivery of a just transition by working closely with the UK Government under its industrial strategy, which includes clean growth as one of four grand challenges. The transition to a carbon-neutral economy will require investments of significant scale, and the UK’s industrial strategy will invest more than £2.5 billion in the next five years to support low-carbon innovation, including through transformation of construction techniques to improve efficiency, through making energy-intensive industries competitive and through making the UK the global leader for green finance to support clean growth.

The low-carbon economy in the UK is expected to grow by 11 per cent per annum in the next 10 years, which is faster than any other sector of the economy. Scotland can benefit significantly from the scale of the economic growth and investment under the UK’s industrial strategy, but only if the Scottish Government works more closely and collaborates further with the UK Government in order to capitalise on the opportunities.

A number of MSPs, including Claudia Beamish, Mark Ruskell and Donald Cameron, pointed to the need for increased investment in training, education and skills to ensure that Scotland’s workforce is ready for the challenges and opportunities that will arise from the low-carbon industries that are yet to emerge. If we are to equip Scotland’s workforce for a low-carbon future, we need to address the chronic underinvestment in training and lifelong retraining, which Jamie Halcro Johnston mentioned. Otherwise, the workforce of the future will not be prepared to capitalise on the opportunities: there is a danger that we will lose out on significant opportunities if our workforce is not ready. As Alex Rowley said, when we have previously not taken a strategic approach to new emerging industries, we have lost out in terms of jobs in manufacturing, with the vast majority of turbines in Scotland having been manufactured elsewhere.

In delivering a just transition, another priority for the Scottish Government will be to minimise economic disruption on the pathway towards a carbon-neutral economy. For example, the Federation of Small Businesses has warned that few Scottish firms are prepared for the new low-emissions schemes that are planned for four cities in Scotland, and it has expressed concerns about lack of consultation and consistency in implementation of the schemes. We agree with the FSB’s call for more consultation and for Scotland-wide standards to be established when the Scottish Government is introducing new regulations along the pathway to a low-carbon economy.

We also need a coherent approach across Scottish Government agencies, and not just in the just transition commission. We need Scottish Enterprise, the Scottish national investment bank and the Enterprise and Skills Strategic Board all to be aligned around the priorities and implementation of policy. Perhaps Derek Mackay, when he wraps up the debate, could explain how the Government agencies will work together and be aligned across the policy area.

Donald Cameron mentioned in his speech that this is an area in which the Scottish Government must follow an evidence-based approach in order to ensure that policies work in practice. Questions remain about the Scottish Government’s policy proposal to tackle energy costs through a publicly owned energy company, and about how and whether it will work in practice. Two years after the policy was announced, the viability of the publicly owned energy company is still open to question, as we heard from the Minister for Energy, Connectivity and the Islands at the Economy, Energy and Fair Work Committee just this morning. I was surprised to hear that we are still at the stage of stress testing the viability of that flagship policy, which the First Minister announced two years ago.

As Scotland moves towards a low-carbon future, it is inevitable that our economy will change significantly. Some industries will experience rising costs, others will experience falling demand and new sectors will emerge that do not exist at present. There will be a need to balance the needs of small businesses, unions, employees, large businesses, the fossil fuel sector, the renewables sector and new emerging sectors. To deal with all those challenges, we need the Scottish Government to adopt a whole-of-Government approach.

Above all, the Scottish Government needs to take steps to train and upskill our current and future workforce to be ready for the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead.

I support the amendment in Maurice Golden’s name.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-15380, in the name of Roseanna Cunningham, on securing a just transition to a carbon-neutral economy. 14:26
The Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform (Roseanna Cunningham) SNP
I have great pleasure in opening this debate on Scotland’s transition to a carbon-neutral economy, which is the first such debate for the Parliament. I expec...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
Is the cabinet secretary aware that, largely as a result of President Obama’s efforts, there are 800,000 people in the renewables industry in the United Stat...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP
I am not sure that I was aware of the specific numbers of people in those employment sectors in America, but I was aware of the general sense that coal plays...
Maurice Golden (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests. I welcome today’s debate and the Government motion, and I agree with the cabinet secretary...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
Does Maurice Golden agree that perhaps the oil and gas companies could do a little bit more to invest in renewable energies and to fund research and developm...
Maurice Golden Con
I agree that oil and gas companies could do a lot more, even in terms of helping us to decommission and to get the most value from decommissioning. For examp...
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
This debate on just transition principles is very significant for the fair future of Scotland’s economy and society in the global context. My party will supp...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Claudia Beamish Lab
Very briefly—this is an important part of the debate.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
There is time for interventions, Ms Beamish. I call Stewart Stevenson.
Stewart Stevenson SNP
Given that Claudia Beamish advocates a parliamentary line of responsibility, does she expect the appropriate member of the corporate body to be the person wh...
Claudia Beamish Lab
I understand Stewart Stevenson’s point, about which there is a debate to be had. It is important that the commission is independent of Government—there is pr...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
How we respond to the climate emergency while guaranteeing the economic security and wellbeing of everyone in our society is surely the most pressing issue o...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
Today’s just transition debate enshrines the importance of building a fairer and more equal society while transitioning away from carbon-dependent industries...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
No, I have been generous. I ask you to conclude, please.
Tavish Scott LD
I hope that other members will back the Labour and Tory amendments, but I will not be backing the Green amendment.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
As members will have guessed, there is some time in hand for interventions, so I can be a bit elastic on the six minutes, but not so elastic that it snaps—me...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
I want a low-carbon future, I want Scotland to play its full part in the fight against climate change and I want to have spent my time as a representative in...
Alexander Burnett (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Con
As I did in my speech last week, I will start on a positive note and commend Scotland for performing well on reducing its greenhouse gas emissions, which has...
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance, Economy and Fair Work (Derek Mackay) SNP
Does Alexander Burnett accept that the Scottish Government has tried to give as much stability and certainty as possible? The Cabinet Secretary for the Rural...
Alexander Burnett Con
The best way of getting certainty would be to back the Prime Minister’s Brexit deal tonight. Interruption. It is hypocrisy for Scottish National Party member...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I understand why members turn around to listen to members behind them, but they should not spend the entire speech with their back to the chair.
Maurice Golden Con
It was enthralling, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You might have found it enthralling, Mr Golden, but it was a discourtesy. It was not a discussion. I was not going to name you, Mr Golden, but now I will. Mr...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. Let us hope that I say nothing to annoy you too much. Exactly 10 years ago, I was at the 14th conference of the parties—COP 14...
Lewis Macdonald (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Last month, hundreds of energy workers and employers came together at a breakfast briefing in Aberdeen to consider how Scotland’s existing energy industries ...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate. If we are to have a just transition to a carbon-neutral economy, we all need to be more honest in how we d...
Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests, specifically with regard to residential housing, renewable energy and farming. I welcome ...
Angus MacDonald (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP
It is fair to say that the IPCC’s 1.5°C special report, which was published last October, was a wake-up call for all of us—and if it was not, it should have ...