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Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
18 May 2017
Partnership Action for Continuing Employment
I welcome today’s debate on PACE. In 2015, the chamber praised the positive efforts of PACE in responding to redundancy situations. I know that since then, as we have heard in the debate, many improvements have been made to the service. I, for one, am particularly pleased to s...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
08 Jun 2023
Late-diagnosed Deaf Children (Lothian)
I am not a Lothians MSP, but I followed the issue during my time on the Education, Children and Young People Committee and on other occasions that have popped up. It was very interesting to listen to Fiona Hyslop’s contribution, and I must not forget Jeremy Balfour, whom I con...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
02 Nov 2023
Early Childhood Development Transformational Change Programme
I recognise them, and I am saying exactly that, but I cannot understand how the member can come here and trot off that political spiel without recognising that we have a national shortage of midwives, that neonatal services in this country are being cut and that they are strug...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
28 Nov 2017
Equally Safe
The biggest thing that we can do as men is call out that kind of behaviour publicly when we see it and work on a cross-party basis, as we are doing in today’s debate, to make it clear that such behaviour is not acceptable in our country and that people who behave in that way d...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
23 Feb 2017
Budget (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I have to be honest: I am still a relatively new member of the Parliament, and I have been a bit bemused by the circus of the past few weeks. I have been struggling to keep up with Derek Mackay’s budget revisions and—more difficult for me—I have been trying to work out which o...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
09 May 2017
Railway Policing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am pleased to hear Rona Mackay confirm that all 17,000 police officers across Scotland will be working full time on the railways rather than on all the other issues that they are being stretched to deal with at present. Police stations in my constituency will no longer be cl...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
18 Apr 2024
Portfolio Question Time · Ministerial Task Force on Population (Rural Communities)
Across Dumfriesshire, my constituents are finding it harder and harder to access basic services. National health service dentistry is now non-existent in many parts of the constituency. My constituents in Sanquhar, Kelloholm and Kirkconnel tell me that they cannot see a genera...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
01 Oct 2025
Portfolio Question Time · NHS Dumfries and Galloway (Financial Support)
Any additional money is welcome, but with a record deficit of £58 million, as predicted by the health and social care partnership for 2025-26, the board’s financial position continues to deteriorate. Local communities have real concerns about the impact of drastic reductions...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
15 Sep 2016
Domestic Abuse Law
I will start by reflecting on the debate. On the issue of domestic abuse, we find a real strength of feeling across the chamber and a recognition of how far we have come on it. When we hear Claire Baker talk about 40 years of Scottish Women’s Aid and Ruth Maguire refer to the ...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
09 May 2018
Portfolio Question Time · Mental Health Services (Involvement of Young People)
In Dumfries and Galloway, we have seen a 10 per cent rise in the number of temporary staff who work in child and adolescent mental health services. Does the minister agree that that represents a huge challenge for the running of child-centred services? What action is the Scott...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
12 Sep 2019
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Act 2012 (Post-legislative Scrutiny Reports)
As a former member of the Justice Committee—it now seems like I was a member in the dim and distant past—I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak in this important debate. For once, I am glad to be speaking towards the end of the debate, because it has been interesting to...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
12 Sep 2019
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Act 2012 (Post-legislative Scrutiny Reports)
I am pleased to hear the cabinet secretary make that point in one sense, because I do not think that such issues are for politicians. However, it highlights another problem—I was going to come to it at the end of my speech—which is that, when things are not quite as they shoul...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
07 Oct 2020
Financial Scrutiny (Impact of Covid-19)
In all honesty, do you think that that system is working well for bus services at the moment? From my experience locally, and from listening to members from across the country, it seems to me that that does not always happen. There are particular aggravators at the moment, and...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
02 Dec 2020
Portfolio Question Time · Older People (Services in Pandemic)
I commend the excellent work of day centres and local organisations in Dumfriesshire, which have gone above and beyond to respond to the needs of their members. However, as time passes, it is clear that some of those services, which were redesigned as Covid-19 first emerged, a...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Committee
24 Feb 2021
Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I welcome the bill. It addresses a real problem for many families, which I continue to see regularly. People who struggle, all the way through formal education, to get the support that they need suddenly find out, at the end of that time and after years of fighting, that the s...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
13 Jan 2022
Holistic Family Support
I thank Martin Whitfield for bringing the debate to the chamber, and for his thoughtful contribution—such contributions have already become a hallmark of his time in Parliament. I doubt that I will meet that standard or test myself, but I am pleased to speak in the debate and ...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
30 May 2023
Hospital at Home Programme
Through my own, albeit limited, life experience and my work as a constituency MSP, I am well aware that, for many people, hospital is not the best place to be. Of course, no one really wants to be in hospital at all if they can avoid it, but, for some people, the disruption an...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
07 Jun 2016
Topical Question Time · Police Scotland (Financial Difficulties)
One of the most significant driving factors behind the establishment of Police Scotland was promised cost efficiencies. With this on-going development and the warnings in last year’s Audit Scotland report about a potential £85 million shortfall in the policing budget by 2018-1...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
24 Jan 2017
Demand-led Policing
My question follows Stewart Stevenson’s supplementary question and takes us back to the four out of five calls issue. I know that there is not much data, but is there a breakdown that can help the committee to understand how often the police are called out to non-crime inciden...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
01 Feb 2017
Female Genital Mutilation
I greatly appreciate the opportunity to close today’s debate for the Scottish Conservatives. We can all agree that it has been an extremely moving and powerful debate with strong contributions from members right across the chamber. I am particularly grateful to Mary Fee for h...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
28 Mar 2017
Railway Policing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Okay. My next question is probably for the transport minister. To set the whole cross-border jurisdictional issue in context, do you know how many passengers and rail services cross the border on a daily basis?
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
06 Jun 2017
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
From your experience, do you think that there are sufficient resources to enable you to take on the additional workload? When changes have been made previously, a significant number of additional people have come forward to use certain services. Is there the capacity for that ...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
22 Jun 2017
Limitation (Childhood Abuse) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I thank the minister for that intervention, but amendment 1 is different from the amendment that was discussed at stage 2—it is narrower and considers only the retrospective aspects. Furthermore, if the costs are unquantifiable—if we do not know what they are—how can we ask lo...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
22 Jun 2017
Limitation (Childhood Abuse) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I am gobsmacked by the Scottish Government’s complacency. It seems to have missed what the legislation is about. If we cannot guarantee that claims that come forward in 20 years’ time will be met, what is the point in passing the legislation at all? The amendment gets right to...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
22 Jun 2017
Limitation (Childhood Abuse) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I will reflect carefully on that point and, in turn, I ask the Scottish Government to reflect on the length of time that it has had, while the bill has been progressing through Parliament, to consider some of those points. To answer some of the other questions that the minis...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
20 Sep 2017
Children and Young People (Information Sharing) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you very much. I have one further question on the recording of evidence and decisions. You have talked about supervision and the need for consistency across different services, with people making the same decisions every time. How can you achieve that consistency withou...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
17 Jan 2018
Urgent Question · M74 (Stranded Motorists)
I thank local emergency services and the mountain rescue team. Given that the local police had advised against all but essential travel, was any consideration given to putting in place an advanced closure or HGV restrictions on the M74 as the conditions deteriorated yesterday?
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Committee
09 May 2018
Attainment and Achievement of School-aged Children Experiencing Poverty
I should state, although it is not a formal declaration of interest, that I am a cub scout leader in Dumfriesshire. I want to go back to the point about commissioning and buying in services in schools. In the informal evidence session, there was a suggestion that there is hug...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
22 May 2018
Disability Employment Gap
I begin by echoing the sentiment that is expressed in the motion and has been picked up on by a number of members across the chamber: there can be absolutely no doubt that the stubbornly high disability employment gap here in Scotland is unacceptable. Not only is it a tragedy ...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
21 Jun 2018
Human Rights and the Scottish Parliament
The Scottish Parliament has a proud record of debating human rights issues; we established this committee and we are actioning many of the points that you identified. My question is similar to others that have been asked. How can Parliament ensure a human rights focus in local...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Committee
28 Jun 2018
Budget Strategy Phase 2019-20
I want to start by asking about money that is received by third sector organisations, which obviously play a vital role in delivering a number of services, particularly when it comes to promoting equalities and human rights. Do you put any focus on analysing whether that money...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
26 Sep 2018
Young People’s Pathways
You brought up the bridge to one of my colleagues as an example of how we deliver services in a rural area. However, in effect, the bridge is another campus in an urban setting that is inaccessible to many people in a largely rural region. I do not personally find that to be a...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
14 Nov 2018
Music Tuition in Schools Inquiry
I am grateful for all that information. Let me push a little bit further. Do you expect any guidance that comes from COSLA to focus on the development of standardised practices across all the local authorities? Should the guidance set out minimum expectations of instrumental m...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
16 Jan 2019
Budget Scrutiny 2019-20
My next, and probably final, question is on the differences between local authorities. I would not say that there is a definite trend in some of the figures, but do you accept that there is a possibility that it is more difficult for rural local authorities or schools in more ...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
28 Mar 2019
Disabled People
I am pleased to speak in this important debate. We have already heard very interesting speeches from across the chamber, and different issues have been raised. It is not just those with disabilities who lose out as a result of discrimination; it is all of us. When people with...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
20 Jun 2019
Children (Equal Protection from Assault) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I have to say that that was an oversight on my part. I heard that argument earlier this week from children’s charities, but I do not think that the fact that something was not done in previous legislation is a good reason for not doing it now. What has drawn the issue to my ...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
14 Nov 2019
Female Genital Mutilation (Protection and Guidance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I can talk about that now. The convener was with me on a visit to an organisation in Edinburgh that works with some of the people who we hope the bill will help. Its concern is that the protection order could do the legal bit, but individuals who are sharing a house with someo...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
20 Feb 2020
Budget Scrutiny 2020-21
That would be helpful. I recognise and I hope that you would recognise—your earlier comments suggest that you do—how integral the third sector is to delivering human rights. Again, I highlight the role that local authorities also play in that. I know that their budgets are ver...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Committee
07 Oct 2020
Financial Scrutiny (Impact of Covid-19)
I know that the cabinet secretary has talked quite a bit about public transport in response to other questions, but I am particularly interested in the impact of the issue on rural communities. Last week, Russel Griggs told the committee that an integrated public transport sys...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
07 Oct 2020
Financial Scrutiny (Impact of Covid-19)
Ultimately, there will be some people in Scotland who, because of where they live, will not benefit from public transport at all. I just want to be sure that, even with changing travel patterns and other bits and pieces, you still recognise that, for some people, although road...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Committee
29 Oct 2020
BBC Annual Report and Accounts
I am interested in news gathering and journalism, and specifically in the local democracy scheme. How do the panellists feel that that has worked, and what has it contributed? I have certainly heard a mixed bag of feedback. I have heard that, in some places, it is working well...
3. Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
02 Dec 2020
Portfolio Question Time · Older People (Services in Pandemic)
To ask the Scottish Government what further support will be made available to help services respond to the needs of older people, in light of the Covid-19 restrictions. (S5O-04811)
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
04 Mar 2021
First Minister’s Question Time · Covid-19 (Financial Support Schemes)
Can the First Minister offer any reassurance to my constituents who are struggling to get information regarding their applications to the mobile and home-based close contact services fund and the newly self-employed hardship fund? Many have had no acknowledgement, others have ...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
03 Jun 2021
Education
Five years ago, in a statement to the Parliament on her Government’s priorities following the 2016 election, the First Minister said: “By the end of this session, through the action that we take to improve our most life-changing public services—education, health, social care ...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
16 Jun 2021
Brexit (Skills Impact)
Thousands of short-term, part-time places have been cut. That is not the feedback that I get from my constituents. The minister says that members should go away and listen to people. I think that he should reflect on what people in the college sector—and, I suspect, many of hi...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
01 Mar 2022
Eating Disorders Awareness Week 2022
Not at all. For completeness, I note that Beatrice Wishart co-convenes the group with us. It is important to mention that the cross-party group on mental health has been looking at eating disorders. That is an issue that many people fail to consider when they talk about menta...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
08 Mar 2022
International Women’s Day 2022
That is kind, Presiding Officer. Rhoda Grant touched on the additional challenges that women face in more rural and remote parts of our country. In my time as an MSP, that has come up again and again. In large parts of the country, we too often make provision only for telepho...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
30 Mar 2022
Keeping the Promise Implementation Plan
I am pleased to close the debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives and to join my colleagues in reaffirming our support for the Promise. The debate has been worth while and has broadly struck the right note. There has been recognition across the chamber of the collectiv...
7. Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
29 Sep 2022
General Question Time · General Practitioner Services (Accountability)
To ask the Scottish Government what accountability mechanisms are available to communities who believe that they are receiving inadequate general practitioner services. (S6O-01410)
5. Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
24 Nov 2022
General Question Time · National Health Service Dentistry (Dumfries and Galloway)
To ask the Scottish Government what urgent action it is taking to stabilise NHS dentistry services in Dumfries and Galloway. (S6O-01601)
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
11 Jan 2023
A75 Improvements
I am pleased to see this important debate take place in the first week of the parliamentary new year. It should not have to take place at all; the improvements should have already been made. However, given where we are and given some of the other issues that have been debated ...
5. Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
08 Mar 2023
Portfolio Question Time · Covid Recovery Strategy (Key Services)
To ask the Scottish Government whether it will provide an update on how its Covid recovery strategy is supporting the tackling of health inequalities, including in relation to accessing key services such as dentistry. (S6O-01968)
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
15 Mar 2023
Agriculture
I have not made a great deal of progress through my speech; most of what I have said has been in response to SNP members who, instead of channelling their energies into challenging the cabinet secretary on what she is going to do for farmers, seem to be more excited about what...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
13 Dec 2022
Moveable Transactions (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
In that intervention, Martin Whitfield has touched on part of the challenge: the Scottish Law Commission is asked to do a certain job, but it is not asked to do the job of politicians. It is our job to talk about the morality, politics and practical effects of legislation, and...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
20 Sep 2023
Neonatal Services (Lanarkshire)
Will the member give way?
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Committee
24 Oct 2023
Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I want to come back on your point about the number of independent law firms. I assume that the numbers that you gave relate to big whole-service law firms.
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
24 Oct 2023
Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Obviously, there are hundreds of smaller independent law firms. Thinking about my constituents, I would say that most people probably interact with smaller independent firms.
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
24 Oct 2023
Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I do not deny that. I just felt that it was important to clarify that the sector is probably still a bit more diverse than just 16 firms.
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
24 Oct 2023
Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You said that, overall, you do not feel that the bill is an improvement. You think that it makes things more complex.
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
24 Oct 2023
Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
So, on balance, you are not in support of the legislation as proposed.
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 18 May 2017

18 May 2017 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Partnership Action for Continuing Employment

I welcome today’s debate on PACE. In 2015, the chamber praised the positive efforts of PACE in responding to redundancy situations. I know that since then, as we have heard in the debate, many improvements have been made to the service. I, for one, am particularly pleased to see that 80 SDS staff now work alongside jobcentre staff to enhance the work of PACE. A national helpline, a revamped website and improved information services have also increased the visibility and accessibility of PACE services for employers and individuals.

Those enhancements have enabled a change in the strategic focus of PACE, which was initially set up to target large-scale redundancies. Now that it has more dedicated staff and more accessible services, PACE can open its doors to more individuals and employers, particularly in rural areas such as my Dumfriesshire constituency where, in the past, small-scale job losses have not been seen as being as important as larger-scale ones in big companies in the central belt.

Such improvements have been very much welcomed, particularly last autumn, when Penman Engineering Ltd entered administration. It had been in operation locally since 1859 and was one of the area’s biggest employers. It was threatened with closure, and losing such a historic firm looked as though it would be a hammer blow to the local economy. Wave after wave of redundancies came, and the workforce shrank from 140 employees to a skeleton crew of 15. That was devastating news for our local economy and a deeply distressing time for the families who relied on the jobs at the site.

From the outset, PACE offered a quick and efficient response. Relevant assistance and guidance were immediately offered to all those who were affected by redundancy. Now that I have the opportunity, I particularly thank the minister for the advice and support that he gave me as a member during the first major round of job losses in my constituency. PACE really made a difference.

The service does not operate in isolation. It is a partnership of 22 organisations that co-ordinate a response to redundancy situations such as the one at Penman Engineering. As one of those partner organisations, Scottish Enterprise, which worked closely with the administrators, was vital in turning around the fortunes of Penman Engineering. The speed of the turnaround was remarkable. In September last year, the firm entered administration. In October, it started a search for a suitable buyer and by November new owners were secured. Since then, contracts have grown and the workforce has already risen to 67 employees. Every step of the way, every effort has been made to re-employ the old workforce. That is very important in a rural area such as Dumfriesshire where there are not all that many similar opportunities for those who have the particular engineering skill sets of that workforce.

It was undoubtedly true that the efforts of PACE and its partner organisations were constructive in Dumfries at that time just as they are across Scotland. That said, expectations need to be managed. Despite the general success of the initiative, it is possible for PACE to improve its redundancy support services. As we have heard from other members, the findings in the 2016 PACE client experience survey point towards a number of recommendations. A quarter of clients who used the PACE services felt that the introductory presentation and information guide came too late in the process. That needs to improve, because clients need to know how to access redundancy support as soon as possible. Further to that, awareness of the online PACE services and telephone helpline remains relatively low. If PACE is to satisfy the growing need among many for follow-up help, much improvement is needed in the promotion of the services. I hope that today’s debate goes a little way towards doing that.

Beyond improvements to the PACE client experience, the Scottish Government must also do more to drive investment, growth and business support. I must stress again that the good efforts of PACE are made all the more possible by the work of its 22 partners. I hope to see a 23rd partner very soon through the creation of a new south of Scotland vehicle that I hope will complement PACE’s work and tailor its services to support the specific and recognised local needs and economic challenges.

I also hope that a new vehicle will be able to work alongside the proposed borderlands growth deal that was announced today in the Conservative manifesto for the UK general election. That will help to create a stronger, more resilient and dynamic local economy. Through that, I hope that we can reduce the risk of future redundancies and deliver a broader mix of high-skilled and well-paid employment, particularly in traditional textile towns such as Langholm, where industrial activity has been in decline in recent years.

In closing, I wish to join Dean Lockhart in calling on the Scottish Government to follow the advice of leading organisations by co-operating with the UK Government’s industrial strategy. Co-operation is needed from all levels of government if businesses are to plan ahead for future trends in the economy. As Scottish Chambers of Commerce stated yesterday,

“Scottish businesses are competing on a global basis and need the co-ordinated support of all levels of Government to give them the edge to enable business to create high quality employment opportunities for all.”

Although PACE has been generally successful, the Scottish Government must do more to support the Scottish economy by co-operating with the UK industrial strategy, offering its full support to the borderlands growth deal, and delivering on the long overdue promise of a south of Scotland skills and enterprise agency.

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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-05630, in the name of Paul Wheelhouse, on partnership action for continuing employment, which is known to...
The Minister for Business, Innovation and Energy (Paul Wheelhouse) SNP
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Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
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Paul Wheelhouse SNP
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Stewart Stevenson SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Just let me check that we are all awake. Yes, we are all awake—you can keep talking.
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am going to ask you to start closing, because I want to give other members a bite of this big cherry.
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
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Dean Lockhart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I suspect that it will be a conservative nine minutes, not a liberal nine minutes. I congratulate Mr Wheelhouse on extending hi...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
Will the member give way?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The inevitable Mr Stevenson.
Stewart Stevenson SNP
Would Dean Lockhart agree that it can also be useful to have in the room the employer who may be paying off. When we had a major pay-off in Fraserburgh, we w...
Dean Lockhart Con
Mr Stevenson makes a good point, which we will come on to a bit later. That also feeds back into the need for PACE and the enterprise agencies to get involve...
Elaine Smith Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
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Dean Lockhart Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
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Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Paul Wheelhouse SNP
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Richard Leonard Lab
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Ivan McKee (Glasgow Provan) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Stewart Stevenson SNP
Will the member give way?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am sorry. You can all sit down, because Mr Leonard will have to close. You have done well, Mr Leonard—you were into 12 minutes.