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Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
18 May 2022
Scottish Attainment Challenge
By introducing criticism of the Government in my amendment, I have perhaps been less generous than colleagues. However, I suspect that the motion would be hard for it to support. The debate perfectly sums up the challenges in Scottish education under the SNP. It is yet anothe...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
09 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
In the interests of time, I will just say yes and move on to look at the educational advisory council that is covered in amendments 121 and 131. Although that aspect of the pandemic response was, for me, not perfect, it worked relatively well, and I want to ensure that any fu...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
28 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill
As one of the closing speakers in a long and wide-ranging debate—not just today but through the various stages of the bill—there is a huge amount that I could say, but, at this point, very little that would be new. As colleagues have set out already, we fundamentally disagree...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
30 Mar 2022
Keeping the Promise Implementation Plan
I am pleased to close the debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives and to join my colleagues in reaffirming our support for the Promise. The debate has been worth while and has broadly struck the right note. There has been recognition across the chamber of the collectiv...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
09 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I guess that it comes down to who we believe is the right person to take the final decision. These are difficult questions of balance. At times during the pandemic, when it came to decisions about schools, we opted for a national approach, although there was significant local ...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
17 Feb 2021
Education
Today’s debate has pretty much summed up 14 years of SNP education policy failure. Not only is the Government wasting time and energy on plotting to hold an illegal referendum before Christmas this year, but any spare energy that it has left is being expended on hiding the tru...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
03 Jun 2021
Education
I do not think that promoting the opportunity for individual tutoring after a pandemic has affected many individuals in different ways is dictating something that would be unwelcome by most schools and most young people. If the answer is that the education secretary has no ad...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
16 Jun 2021
Brexit (Skills Impact)
The huge difference between Brexit and Scottish independence is that we had already set an exit date for leaving the EU before the pandemic started. Throughout those negotiations, as we have seen during the vaccine debacle and in Northern Ireland, the EU was probably the least...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
07 Sep 2021
Programme for Government 2021-22
Far from offering a bold and ambitious plan to help us to rebuild and to recover from the pandemic, the SNP Government is simply offering more of the same. We are back to tired arguments that are peppered with grudge and grievance. That approach did not cut it pre-Covid and it...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Nov 2021
Young Persons Guarantee and National Training Transition Fund
This has been a wide-ranging and important debate, but I cannot help but feel that this is a topic in relation to which we are good at talking, but not doing. My colleague Pam Gosal quoted Confucius at the start of the debate, and although I am not normally into deep words of ...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
09 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 112, with amendments 115, 117, 118, 134, 136, 140 and 145, seeks to remove what Graham Simpson’s amendments have left behind. That is my preference, as I think that those sections and provisions are not required at this time. In the interests of time, I will not rehe...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
03 Jun 2021
Education
I am not sure that the young people whom the system is there to serve would agree with that. The extent of the mismatch between the minister’s rhetoric and the reality of the situation grows every day. We do not have another 100 days to waste. It is time for the real action t...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
16 Jun 2021
Brexit (Skills Impact)
I think that Mr Lochhead is incorrect in that recollection. Although it is true that our immigration system needs to work better, many sectors of the Scottish economy value having a UK-wide immigration system. We need proposals that work not only for people here in Scotland bu...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
16 Jun 2021
Brexit (Skills Impact)
Thousands of short-term, part-time places have been cut. That is not the feedback that I get from my constituents. The minister says that members should go away and listen to people. I think that he should reflect on what people in the college sector—and, I suspect, many of hi...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
08 Mar 2022
International Women’s Day 2022
I take that point. There is always a delicate balance to strike. We must ensure that we hear women’s voices, but I think that men—as Paul McLennan powerfully said—have an important role to play, particularly when it comes to influencing the decisions of other men in society an...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Committee
09 Mar 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I think that most people in education and those who are watching at home will think that this is a total waste of time. I think that they will look at this and think that you are totally out of touch, cabinet secretary. Most people who are involved in education—whether they a...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
09 Mar 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I say politely that the obligation on us as parliamentarians is not to put legislation on the statute book that is potentially unlawful, that enables ministerial overreach and that takes up a huge amount of parliamentary time and resource. Instead of preparing for future emerg...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
09 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The role of local authorities in the pandemic will certainly be considered, but Mr Fairlie’s argument is, in effect, that we should not legislate at this time, that we should wait for the public inquiry and that we should wait until we know the shape of any future threat befor...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
09 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I do not have a great deal to add. This comes down to balance and who knows young people best. Even in a national response to a pandemic, there must be recognition that those on the ground who make the day-to-day decisions are often best placed to make those difficult balancin...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
28 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The majority of the amendments in this group were debated during stage 2. I have brought back my amendments not to debate them again in full or to reheat the arguments that were had at committee, but to give the Government an opportunity to change its mind. There have been onl...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
28 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The member is absolutely right. As we have seen, the response, the resource and the general commitment from the Government towards education do not match the scale of the challenges that are faced by our young people. This is obviously not something for this debate, but the pa...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
28 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Like the amendments in the previous group, many of these amendments—in this case, all but one—were presented at stage 2. We then had a lengthy debate and discussion, and the Government went to great lengths to explain why we did not need a catch-up plan for young people, why i...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
28 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
That debate ended up being a bit more heated than I expected. Maybe some of the poking and prodding touched a raw nerve. I do not need to come to the chamber and run down Scottish education; the cabinet secretary has been doing that, along with his colleagues, for 15 years. W...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
09 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Yes. The commissioner would have to consider that advice, consider what ministers were saying and balance that evidence with his expertise in children’s rights, welfare and wellbeing. He would have to balance up some of the difficult questions. I am not saying that the commiss...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
02 Oct 2025
Give Blood 4 Good
I start by congratulating Fulton MacGregor on securing this important debate. I always enjoy his members’ business debates and the campaigns that he works on, because not only does he bring the problems to the chamber but, often, he brings the solutions, too. I strongly associ...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Committee
30 Sep 2020
Financial Scrutiny
I will not slip below the radar. Not having the ambition to connect Dumfries to the motorway network with a dualled road shows a complete lack of ambition, and I am disappointed to hear Russel Griggs say that he does not see that as a priority. My substantive questions are on...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Committee
05 Nov 2020
Future Relationship between the European Union and the United Kingdom Government
Mr McKenzie, I am pleased to hear you talk about driver standards and the conditions that drivers are expected to work in, because I have been absolutely appalled by that issue during the pandemic. On several occasions, I have raised with the Scottish transport minister the is...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
11 Nov 2020
Covid-19 Support (Tourism and Hospitality)
Scotland’s hospitality and tourism sector has been in crisis since the pandemic began. Although the vaccine brings hope to many, there is continued uncertainty for others with a long, cold, dark winter ahead. Thousands of jobs remain at risk, with a growing number of businesse...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
12 Nov 2020
Rural Payments Strategy 2020-21
In jest, I might have said that the cabinet secretary’s lectern had collapsed under a weighty statement, but it was not quite that; it was a lot of things that we have heard before. I welcome the Scottish Government’s recognition that farmers have been working hard throughout...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Dec 2020
Education
I start on a note of consensus after that grumpy, angry and dismissive speech, which has become John Swinney’s trademark when it comes to education—Interruption. In all seriousness, I join other members in thanking our teachers and pupils, and all the support staff, parents a...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Committee
10 Mar 2021
Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland
I am interested in following up the issue of rurality. I feel very strongly that the pandemic has exposed the challenges that young people in rural areas face because of poor digital connectivity and a sense of remoteness and isolation, with many not having friends on their do...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
16 Jun 2021
Brexit (Skills Impact)
Listening to the minister, it would be all too easy to forget that we are assembled here in the world’s most powerful devolved Parliament—a Parliament with the power to change the lives of people in Scotland for the better. In a tidal wave of doom, members would be forgiven fo...
1. Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
31 Aug 2021
Topical Question Time · Classroom-based Learning (Covid-19)
To ask the Scottish Government what analysis it has made of the joint statement by the World Health Organization and UNICEF on the need to prioritise in-person classroom-based learning as efforts to manage the Covid-19 pandemic continue. (S6T-00112)
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
31 Aug 2021
Scottish Government Priorities
The first 100 days of a new parliamentary session, if not a new Government, is an opportunity to hit the political reset button—an opportunity to do things differently and take the country forward. Never has that task been more important than following the 18 months that the c...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
23 Sep 2021
General Question Time · School Inspections
While it is understandable that inspections were paused during the pandemic, many schools across Scotland have already gone years without inspection under the Scottish National Party Government. Can the cabinet secretary tell teachers, parents and young people how often a scho...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
27 Oct 2021
Portfolio Question Time · Covid-19 Recovery (Prioritisation)
There can be no doubt that our young people have been some of the hardest hit by the pandemic. Yesterday, I asked the First Minister what it would take for face masks to be removed from schools, particularly in the classroom, but an answer was not particularly forthcoming. Can...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
03 Nov 2021
Early Learning and Childcare
I fundamentally disagree with the minister on that characterisation. The Government, local authorities and everyone across Scotland are dependent on the PVI sector, but it is not well supported. It continues to pick up the slack because the sector cares about the policy and is...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
03 Nov 2021
Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23
That is helpful. I have a question about college funding, which is an issue that other members have brought up. You have said that the college sector has not experienced the same unpredictability as the university sector. However, there is a long-standing feeling in the colleg...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
24 Nov 2021
Children and Young People and Deprivation (Impact of Covid-19)
I want to ask about rurality and poverty. Have those who are living and learning in rural communities been well served during the pandemic? There have been lots of cases of people struggling to access digital learning. In the relatively urban areas of my constituency, people w...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
01 Dec 2021
Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)
Thank you, convener. I was just waiting to appear on the screen. My question is about the situation in rural Scotland during the pandemic and whether the various witnesses feel that we got the balance right. Even in my constituency, there seemed to be a real mix. In some of t...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
01 Dec 2021
Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)
Have we got the resourcing balance right? I know that it is hard for you, being most familiar with Dundee, but do you think that the heads of education in the 32 local authorities recognise that the delivery of education, whether during a pandemic or in normal times, has diffe...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
14 Dec 2021
Schools and Early Learning (Recovery and Improvement)
The shocking results reveal the brutal impact of Covid on young people, which has been heightened by years of Scottish National Party failure. Scotland’s schools came into the pandemic unprepared after 14 years of the SNP letting standards slip. The double whammy of Covid and ...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
16 Dec 2021
General Question Time · “Achievement of Curriculum for Excellence (CfE) Levels 2020/21”
Our schools went into the pandemic underprepared after the SNP cut teacher numbers to the bone. Does the new announcement on teacher numbers amount to a recognition that the SNP got this wrong?
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
15 Dec 2021
Skills: Alignment with Business Needs
Yes, that is starting to answer my question. As someone who represents a constituency in the south of Scotland, I am pleased that you are looking at a specific programme there, but I still have concerns. You used the word “predominantly” when you were talking about the institu...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
05 Jan 2022
Covid-19
Last year, we saw educational attainment figures that, even in the context of the pandemic, made a mockery of Nicola Sturgeon’s promise that education would be her top priority. We simply cannot afford any more unavoidable disruption to learning. How many additional non-class...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
13 Jan 2022
Holistic Family Support
I thank Martin Whitfield for bringing the debate to the chamber, and for his thoughtful contribution—such contributions have already become a hallmark of his time in Parliament. I doubt that I will meet that standard or test myself, but I am pleased to speak in the debate and ...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
02 Mar 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
At the start of the pandemic, we were all willing to tolerate things in legislation that we might not normally have been comfortable with. Have things moved on? Obviously, partnership is important, but so, too, is proportionality. I have been listening carefully and, from what...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
26 Apr 2022
Low-income Families (Access to School Education)
Yes—and we certainly do not hear that from politicians or Scottish Government ministers. We must also remember that the Government was all too happy to oversee a culture of exorbitant charges for music tuition. Under its watch, that became commonplace. Now, shamefully, minist...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
12 May 2022
Striking University Staff
I thank Maggie Chapman for bringing this important debate to the chamber and for giving voice to the concerns that are felt by many in the university sector. As a member of the Education, Children and Young People Committee, and from the contents of my inbox, I am well aware ...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
09 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
These are further amendments that seek to put in place additional protections and address some of the shortcomings that we saw in the Government response during the pandemic. The principles behind them are fairly straightforward, but I accept that there may be questions relati...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
09 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I have to say that I am unsurprised that the Deputy First Minister is unable to support any of the amendments in the group, because they all speak to errors or a failure to provide support relating to his input to education during the pandemic. To be frank, with regard to the ...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
09 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I say politely to the member that I think that the use of historical data at a school level in a way that impacts the grades of other young people is wrong. In addition, when grades were changed on the basis of an algorithm, and when ministers were aware of the information and...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Committee
08 Jun 2022
Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry
It is almost impossible to talk about the college sector without talking about funding. It is hard to believe that, off the back of the pandemic and from a Government that talks up opportunities for young people and learners in Scotland, we have seen the college sector so badl...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
28 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
That is true, although there are some lessons that we definitely learned. There is the fact that we were so slow, in so many parts of the country, to get the appropriate electronic devices. The amendments change that—expanding the appropriate electronic devices to laptops, whi...
Oliver Mundell Con Chamber
28 Jun 2022
Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
We have heard the Government’s approach: it is its way or no way at all. That is sad, because there was an opportunity to work together and make sure that the principle of professional judgment was built into the legislation. That is the least that our hard-working educational...
Oliver Mundell Con Committee
07 Sep 2022
Scottish Qualifications Authority
It did not work though, did it? Otherwise, we would not have seen the attainment gap widening again. You put in place significant mitigations to adjust grade boundaries, and that did not deliver the result that you expected. It delivered the status quo, going back to the pre-...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con Chamber
27 Feb 2025
Park Home Residents
I pay tribute to my colleague Murdo Fraser for securing this important debate and for shining a light on an often undervalued and overlooked part of Scotland’s housing landscape. The Scottish Confederation of Park Home Residents Associations does a great job, but it is workin...
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Meeting of the Parliament 18 May 2022

18 May 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Scottish Attainment Challenge

By introducing criticism of the Government in my amendment, I have perhaps been less generous than colleagues. However, I suspect that the motion would be hard for it to support.

The debate perfectly sums up the challenges in Scottish education under the SNP. It is yet another example of where the rhetoric does not match the reality. After its action on SAC funding, the idea that the Government can continue to claim that education is its number 1 priority is a joke.

Since I was elected to this chamber, I have consistently made the case for more funding for rural schools and for recognition of the challenges that rural poverty brings to education. In one sense, I am pleased that we have now had an admission from the Government that that has been overlooked for years. However, at no point did I imagine that such support would be paid for by taking money and resources from others who are experiencing poverty.

It is not just the seemingly casual redistribution of the funds that troubles me; it is the timing off the back of the Covid pandemic and the speed with which the authorities that are losing out will have to make eye-watering cutbacks. Perhaps all that would have been more excusable if our schools had not become so reliant on attainment funding to plug the gap and pay for key staff and specialists.

Under the SNP, our education system has been stretched to breaking point and left woefully understaffed and under-resourced, as the pandemic exposed. In the pandemic’s aftermath, we are left with an SNP Government and cabinet secretary who seem detached from the realities that our schools and young people are facing. The Government’s priorities are all wrong and the level of investment is insufficient to deliver on past promises.

Looking at the issue more widely, there is little point in claiming to put additional financial support into the system to increase attainment when you do not get the teaching and learning bit right. That is where teachers can make a difference and help close the gap. No one is saying that welfare and wellbeing are not important, but we must stop asking teachers to do everything, and we must start resourcing them to do the job that they are there to do. We must support teachers and let them get on with helping young people.

That means making sure that we can recruit and retain the right teachers, specialists and support staff across the country. It means getting class sizes down to a level at which behaviour can be managed and individual pupils can get the support that they need. It means offering pay and conditions that reflect the work that teachers do. It means trusting teachers to decide more about what a school needs.

The PEF and attainment challenge funding serve as nothing more than a mirage when we do not properly resource our schools in the first place. There are many questions over additionality when it comes to this money, and I could go on about them all afternoon, but they are for another day.

That is because, for the areas of the country that are seeing their funding cut back, we are not talking about additionality. We are talking about fewer resources going to our most vulnerable young people. We are talking about fewer teachers and fewer professionals being there to support young people off the back of the pandemic. Yes, we are seeing more resources going to other parts of the country, and that is to be welcomed, but those resources do nothing for the young people and teachers who are left to pick up the pieces.

How a cabinet secretary who claims to be here to champion education can say that that is enough, and not be able to find more resources within her segment of the budget, instead of pushing her colleagues in Government to find more money for what is one of the most important areas of public life and our most sacred duty in this Parliament, beggars belief. I do not know how the cabinet secretary can justify robbing Peter to pay Paul. That is a matter for her conscience, at the end of the day.

I move amendment S6M-04445.1, to insert at end:

“, and believes that, if the Scottish Government and the First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, had kept their promise to make education their number one priority, resourced the education system properly, and had not cut thousands of teaching and support roles prior to the COVID-19 pandemic, many of the challenges that are being seen could have been significantly reduced.”

16:23  
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Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Kaukab Stewart (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
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The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Shirley-Anne Somerville to speak to and move amendment S6M-04445.2. 16:13
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Shirley-Anne Somerville) SNP
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Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
I think that Oliver Mundell just beat Mr Marra to it, so I will take his intervention.
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
Does the cabinet secretary now accept that it was wrong not to address rural poverty in all the previous years in which the money was being handed out?
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The Presiding Officer NPA
You must conclude, cabinet secretary.
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
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Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
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Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
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Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
Will the member give way on that point?
Willie Rennie LD
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The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the open debate. 16:27
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Kaukab Stewart SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
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Kaukab Stewart SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
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Please conclude, Mr Bibby.
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The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, Mr Bibby.
Neil Bibby Lab
—and the poverty-related attainment gap will worsen. 16:31
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