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Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
05 Nov 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I remind members that I am a practising solicitor and hold practising certificates from both the Law Society of Scotland and the Law Society of England and Wales. It seems that, at the moment, large parts of my week are set aside for reading, questioning and commenting on mat...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
26 Jan 2021
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will deal with my amendments slightly out of order. Amendments 13 and 25 are basically probing amendments on aligning the law on malicious publication with that on defamation. A number of witnesses thought that that should be explored, and that is what I am seeking to do. ...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
10 Feb 2021
Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service (Malicious Prosecutions)
I remind members that I am a practising solicitor and a member of the Law Society of Scotland. At the outset of the debate, my colleague Murdo Fraser, in speaking to the motion, used the word “incredible”. The contents of the subsequent debate and contributions of members fro...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
08 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Yes, I will. I have three questions around malicious publication, but I shall be appropriately brief. Part 2 of the bill is on “malicious publication”. The bill will create a court action for malicious publication to protect business interests. The serious harm threshold does ...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
15 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning. I will direct my first question on part 2 of the bill, on malicious publication, to Professor Blackie; Mr Deane might wish to follow up on Professor Blackie’s answer. Professor Blackie, in your submission, you raised issues around the threshold for malice. Under...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
01 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is interesting. I will move on. John Paul Sheridan, you mentioned drafting. I would like to explore an element of that with you. Section 21 states that the pursuer must show that the defender has “made a false and malicious statement”. Section 21(2)(b) gives two defini...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
25 Aug 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Yes, I would like to ask three questions on malicious publication—and I shall use my third question to cue up Andrew Tickell’s answer on defences. First, the bill will create a new court action for malicious publication to protect business interests. Both witnesses talked fa...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
02 Mar 2021
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill
During the stage 1 debate on the bill, I said: “at the moment, large parts of my week are set aside for reading, questioning and commenting on matters of freedom of speech”.—Official Report, 5 November 2020; c 57. That has not changed—nor should it, as, of course, freedom of...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
25 Aug 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I would like to return to my earlier theme of malicious publication. We heard earlier the concern that the provisions on malicious publication could offer businesses a way to bypass the protections of freedom of expression that are in part 1, on defamation. Is that a fair conc...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
01 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I will move on to section 21 onwards, on malicious publication. I have three questions for the panel. It has been argued that, as the bill is drafted, there is a danger that businesses can bypass the protections on freedom of expression in part 1, on defamation, because, for ...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
08 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I shall be brief, as always. Gentlemen, I will take you to part 2, on malicious publication, from section 21 onwards. Mr Scodie was asked about secondary publishers. The bill would exclude them from liability for defamatory material, but it appears that that may not be the cas...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
22 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you. Good morning, minister. Part 2 of the bill relates to malicious publication. You are clearly in favour of the serious harm test for defamation; however, the serious harm test does not appear in the malicious publication part of the bill. Will you explain your think...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
09 Feb 2021
Malicious Prosecutions
I remind members that I am a practising solicitor, and I thank the Lord Advocate for advance sight of his statement. There has been an extraordinary catalogue of unexplained and profound departures from normal practices. What is “indefensible”, to use the Lord Advocate’s word...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
25 Aug 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Unless Nick McGowan-Lowe wants to come in, I will move on to a second question. I will come back to the point that Andrew Tickell made about the potential to dodge the defamation protections, which is particularly interesting. My second question is again slightly technical. ...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
25 Aug 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
My understanding is that, unlike for defamation, there is no reversal of a burden of proof. In the malicious publication cases, the pursuer simply has to show that the statement is false or made maliciously. Do you have any thoughts on that?
Liam Kerr Con Committee
25 Aug 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I would be very grateful. I suspect that you are right about the scrutiny of the bill. On perhaps a similar point—this is where I will cue up the point about defences—the bill defines “malice” in a way that sets quite a low threshold. This question is on a point you made ear...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
25 Aug 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is very interesting. I put the same question to Luke McCullough. Do the malicious publication provisions offer the way to bypass those protections? If so, are you reassured by John McLellan’s caveat about showing real loss?
Liam Kerr Con Committee
25 Aug 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Can I push you on that? You have spoken favourably on the serious harm threshold throughout and, at the outset, John McLellan said that the serious harm test is at the core of the bill. Given that premise, should the serious harm test be ported into the malicious publication p...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
01 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I shall cut straight to the chase. If the serious harm test was retained, could it be ported into the area of malicious publication, particularly given that, in section 21 and the following provisions, the pursuer does not need to show actual financial loss but only that a sta...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
01 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have a brief question for Dr Lindsay. Given what you have just said and what you have said generally, do you have any views on whether the sections on malicious publication have the potential to undermine freedom of expression?
Liam Kerr Con Committee
08 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I will ask Dr Scott my next question. If Mr Sutter takes a different view on the issue of serious harm, he can elaborate briefly on that. I am interested, in particular, in Dr Scott’s comments about secondary publishers. The bill as it is drafted would exclude secondary publi...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
08 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is very helpful. My next question is for both witnesses, but I will ask Mr Scodie to go first, given what he has just said. I do not know whether you saw last week’s session in which I suggested that the definition of malice might have a reasonably low threshold. Mr Scodi...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
15 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am very grateful for that extremely comprehensive and clear answer. Instead of asking Mr Deane to respond, I will move on to the next question, although if there is a point that he wants to pick up, perhaps he can do so in response to the next question. My next question is ...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
22 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is a reasonable point. I understand the point about the different hurdles that have to be overcome and the different ways in which the malicious publication provisions and the defamation provisions operate. However, I want to pursue the question of malice with the ministe...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
22 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I listened to the minister not necessarily accepting my premise that the threshold might have been lowered. Some stakeholders have suggested that there could be a lower threshold just with the lack of the serious harm test and the definition of malice, for example. Does the mi...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
26 Jan 2021
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendments 26 and 27 concern limitation periods, which members will recall me exploring during evidence taking. I am still not completely persuaded on the one-year limitation point, but I can see all sides of the debate. I do not seek to amend the one-year limitation period. ...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
02 Apr 2025
Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I have five amendments in this group. Amendments 129 and 131 are related, so I shall deal with them together. Amendments 130, 132 and 133 are separate but related to each other. I will deal with amendments 130 to 133 first. Members might wish to know that those amendments wer...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
15 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I want to take Mr Deane back to the limitation period issue. The Law Society of Scotland considers that one year is too short a period, because it can take time to discover a defamatory statement. Am I right in thinking that, at the moment, the limitation period has a date of ...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
22 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I would like you to explain something again, minister—this is a genuine question; I did not catch what you said earlier. Why, if we reduce the limitation to one year, should it not be from the date of knowledge rather than from the date of publication, as the bill envisages? ...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
12 Jun 2018
Defamation
How confident can we be regarding the date of the original publication? If I have heard it right, every time the hyperlink is copied over into a new form, it is substantively the same thing. Could there be any ambiguity as to what is the original publication date? Would a one-...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
25 Aug 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Perhaps Andrew Tickell could take the question, and then Nick McGowan-Lowe can come back in if he wants.
Liam Kerr Con Committee
25 Aug 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you. Nick McGowan-Lowe, have you anything to say?
Liam Kerr Con Committee
25 Aug 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am very grateful to you both.
Liam Kerr Con Committee
25 Aug 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is very interesting. Thank you.
Liam Kerr Con Committee
01 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It was short and very clear. John Paul Sheridan, do you have another answer?
Liam Kerr Con Committee
01 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is very helpful.
Liam Kerr Con Committee
01 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I found Duncan Hamilton’s final point persuasive. However, if we were to go to a one-year limitation period, would a solution to the issues that you raised be to have some kind of continuing-act limitation, such that things do not age out if they are part of a continuing act, ...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
01 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Rona Mackay asked about letters before action. For clarification—I genuinely do not know the answer to this, because I have never practised in this area—does the panel know whether a pre-action protocol is in place in Scotland in actions for defamation, which would mandate the...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
01 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I imagine that both of you saw the earlier panel’s evidence, during which I specifically asked about an interplay between particular provisions in section 21. Does either of you take a view on whether the inclusion of indifference as a qualification with relation to harm is a ...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
08 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Mr Sutter, do you have a view? If not, I will move on to my third question on this area.
Liam Kerr Con Committee
08 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am grateful. I direct my final question specifically to Mr Sutter. It is on limitation. There are differing views on the reduction of the limitation period to one year. Legal stakeholders seem to suggest that one year might be too short, while others take a very different vi...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
08 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Would you mind delivering that argument now—as briefly as you are able to, please—to persuade me that one year is appropriate?
Liam Kerr Con Committee
08 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Does Mr Tibbitt have any comment on what we have just heard, or on my question?
Liam Kerr Con Committee
08 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is very helpful. I have one further question, which is exactly the same as the question that I posed earlier. Differing views have been taken on the limitation reduction to one year. Mr Scodie, in your opening statement, you said that you support the reduction. Off the to...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
08 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is very clear. Does Mr Tibbitt want to comment on that?
Liam Kerr Con Committee
08 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am very grateful to both of you.
Liam Kerr Con Committee
15 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is a very important point, and I will put something similar to Mr Brookmyre shortly. Professor Blackie, Mr Deane has made an interesting point about serious harm. Do you take a different view or do you concur with Mr Deane?
Liam Kerr Con Committee
15 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That was very useful—I am grateful. I think that Mr Brookmyre, to whom I wish to direct my final question, might be away temporarily. Is that correct, convener?
Liam Kerr Con Committee
15 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It is section 32(6)(b)(iv), as it amends the Prescription and Limitation (Scotland) Act 1973.
Liam Kerr Con Committee
15 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am sorry. Perhaps I will pose the question later, as I am conscious of the time.
Liam Kerr Con Committee
22 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Do you not accept that the bill does lower the threshold? The bill requires that “the statement has caused (or is likely to cause) financial loss”. I think that I am right in saying that there is no definition of “financial loss”, and therefore there is no de minimis. If th...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
22 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am not sure that the definition of malice reflects the common-law position. When you talk about the common law, I think that you are referring to the concept of verbal injury, which is an area in which the law has been described as “obscure and uncertain”. If that is right, ...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
22 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
James Kelly asked about defences. Part 1 of the bill codifies the defences as they currently exist, but I do not see the same defences applying to part 2. Am I right in saying that the defences do not apply to part 2? If not, why not?
Liam Kerr Con Committee
22 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Would they apply to part 2?
Liam Kerr Con Committee
22 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It does. This is a genuine question: where in part 2 does it say that those defences apply? I accept the minister’s assertion, but I would like to know where in part 2 it says that those defences apply.
Liam Kerr Con Committee
22 Sep 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I muse, then, whether that area is ripe for amendment, to make it absolutely clear that sections X, Y, and Z apply as defences in part 2. Minister, do you think that there would be value in pursuing that?
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
05 Nov 2020
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
On the previous point about liability with regard to public bodies, what is the minister’s thinking on private companies that provide services to a public body and whether the principle should be extended to them?
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
26 Jan 2021
Post-mortem Examinations (Defence Time Limit) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The Scottish Conservatives will vote against the bill at decision time, but I make it clear that that is a finely balanced decision, because we have a great deal of sympathy for what Gil Paterson seeks to achieve. He argued his case clearly in his letter of 22 January, to whic...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
26 Jan 2021
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The minister has worked closely with me and the rest of the committee on amendments. I have listened to what she has said and I take it in good faith. I look forward to continuing to work with her. On that basis, I will not move amendment 37. Amendment 37 not moved. Section ...
Liam Kerr Con Committee
26 Jan 2021
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will respond briefly. I confirm that I support the minister’s amendments, which are good and—she will concede—called for. I am happy to see those amendments go in the bill. The minister has spoken persuasively. Her discussion of my amendments 13 and 25 has persuaded me and...
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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 05 November 2020

05 Nov 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Kerr, Liam Con North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

I remind members that I am a practising solicitor and hold practising certificates from both the Law Society of Scotland and the Law Society of England and Wales.

It seems that, at the moment, large parts of my week are set aside for reading, questioning and commenting on matters of freedom of speech—and rightly so, as it is one of our most important fundamental rights. In these times, when technological developments and social media have allowed pretty much anyone to be a creator or a publisher, it is imperative both that free speech is protected and that any threats to it caused by laws are challenged.

However, it is also key that individual reputation and the right to privacy should be protected. The bill seeks to strike a balance between those two rights. The Scottish Conservatives consider that the principles of the Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill broadly achieve that balance, and we will vote in favour of it at decision time tonight.

Several areas will merit further consideration as the bill progresses. Adam Tomkins, the committee’s convener, has just encapsulated my thoughts on the Derbyshire principle in his comments, so I will confine my remarks to three other areas: the serious harm test, malicious publication, and a brief comment on limitation.

If the bill is passed, the right to bring defamation proceedings in respect of a defamatory statement will accrue only if publication has caused or is likely to cause “serious harm” to the subject’s reputation. According to the bill’s policy memorandum, which refers to the Scottish Law Commission’s work on the subject, that test is required because of the

“lack of authority in Scots common law and the inability of Scottish courts to dispose of trivial claims at an early stage”.

I find that interesting, because, if there is a lack of authority, one wonders whether the Law Society of Scotland has a point when it says that the existence of such an extra hurdle could “deter legitimate claims”, leading to even less such authority developing.

Although ensuring the ability to dispose of trivial claims feels right to me, the Faculty of Advocates has suggested that

“There is no reason to think that the Scottish courts have”

hitherto

“been troubled by trivial claims”.

That having been said, I listened carefully to the media respondents who told the committee that a serious harm test adds clarity, prevents cases without merit from proceeding and helps to prevent a chilling effect in their investigations. The evidence of Dr Andrew Tickell was particularly powerful. He said:

“we are not just talking here about journalists”

but about

“writers, bloggers and anyone who engages in the public sphere”

asking

“‘Can I afford to defend myself?’”—[Official Report, Justice Committee, 25 August 2020; c 6.]

The Society of Editors noted that, in England, the reduction in the chilling effect benefits academics, scientists and others. It is that final point that I found particularly persuasive. Although I see merit in both views and feel that the committee’s report articulates the debate well, on balance, I align with the committee’s view, which it expressed in its report, to

“favour retention of the serious harm test”.

However, that internal dialogue informs my view that the committee was right to recommend that the Scottish Government set out clearly why the serious harm test is still required. I have read the minister’s letter of 29 October, and I have listened to her opening remarks today, but I am not sure that she has demonstrated such a requirement. I will be interested to hear the views of other members who contribute to the debate. I respectfully invite the minister to consider setting out, before stage 2, why such a test is required.

Mention of serious harm is notably absent from the bill’s sections on malicious publication. I focused on that area during the committee’s evidence sessions, because I was concerned that it might not have been such a priority while the bill was being drafted. Even the policy memorandum says that the purpose of the bill is to

“simplify the law of defamation (and the related action of malicious publication) in Scotland”.

The nature of part 2 as almost an afterthought has been explored by the committee, which has several concerns. One is that the bill sets a low threshold for showing malicious publication, as what is required to show that a statement is “malicious” is knowledge of, or indifference to, the fact that a statement is false; thus a pursuer can show malice merely by adducing indifference to the truth.

Other concerns are that, in the definition of malice, the pursuer must show indifference “or”—not “and”—malicious intention; there is no concept of serious harm, only a degree of financial loss, which does not have to be caused, with no de minimis; and there is a lack of clarity as to whether secondary publishers are immune from part 2. On that note, as articulated by the convener, there is also no clarity over defences applying in this area.

The logical progression of such drafting, according to the likes of Professor Elspeth Reid and Professor John Blackie, is that malicious publication might become a preferable action to a defamation action. They suggest amending the definition to require both falsehood and malicious intention, or at least “reckless” indifference to the truth.

Dr Andrew Tickell was clear in his view that, if one is persuaded by the need for a serious harm test at the outset, it would make sense to consider it for part 2 of the bill as well.

I note the minister’s intention to amend, which I am grateful for, and, with regard to the defences, I note the convener’s remarks and the minister’s letter committing to look carefully at the issue if an amendment is lodged. However, I encourage the minister to look at it carefully of her own volition as soon as possible. Further, I associate myself with the convener’s remarks on the explanatory notes.

I will say a brief word on limitation, as it is another area of particularly interesting debate. The bill reduces the limitation period within which an action must be brought from three years to one year from first publication. I understand the rationale, including that a longer limitation can discourage publishers’ investigation, and I accept the argument that it is difficult to believe that, nowadays, someone would not be aware of material that caused serious harm to their reputation within the period of a year. However, one can envisage a situation in which cumulative statements do serious harm in the aggregate rather than at the publication of the initial statement.

In her opening remarks, the minister argued that the court has discretion to allow a claim to go through that would otherwise be out of time. She is, of course, right, as there is a general power to override time limits in the Prescription and Limitation (Scotland) Act 1973. However, that does not specifically refer to defamation actions in the same way as the Limitation Act 1980 does in England and Wales, so there is at least an argument that we have weaker protection in Scotland. For the sake of clarity, an amendment in that regard is worth exploring.

Furthermore, section 33 of the bill makes provision for a limitation interruption when there is mediation, which is helpful. However, one wonders whether that might be extended to take account of other forms of alternative dispute resolution such as arbitration, expert determination and press complaints or ombudsman bodies.

Further reflection is needed in those areas, but, at this stage, I confirm that the Scottish Conservatives agree with the principles of the Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill and will vote for them at decision time.

15:53  

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