Committee
Economy, Energy and Fair Work Committee 22 January 2019
22 Jan 2019 · S5 · Economy, Energy and Fair Work Committee
Item of business
Damages (Investment Returns and Periodical Payments) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Once again, I thank Dean Lockhart for providing a bit more detail on his amendments. On amendment 15, it might be helpful if I first summarise how awards of damages for personal injury may be made. The methods of award—that is, either a lump sum or periodical payment—are not mutually exclusive, and a pursuer who receives their award by way of an order or agreement for periodical payments will rarely receive their entire award in that way. At the point at which a settlement figure is agreed or ordered, the pursuer might already have experienced losses—for example, their past salary or past care or treatment—and their settlement might therefore include a capital sum to allow them to purchase a piece of equipment to assist them. Such payments would be made in a lump sum, and only future pecuniary losses could be made in the form of periodical payments. Indeed, the award or settlement might provide for those future losses to be addressed through a mix of lump sum and periodical payments. That flexibility for the courts is maintained in the bill’s provisions relating to the variation of periodical payments, and if we were to restrict or hamper that flexibility, it would mean that, if a court were presented with evidence that a pursuer’s losses had increased due to a change in their condition, it would no longer be open to the court to award a lump sum in addition to the periodical payments as originally awarded. It would be restricted to a choice between varying the level of the periodical payments or replacing the whole of the periodical payments with a lump sum when increasing the level of compensation. Additionally, the court can vary an order or agreement only where there is actual change in the pursuer’s condition and the change itself results in significant over or undercompensation. Proposed section 2F of the 1996 act, which is inserted by section 4 and relates to orders, and proposed section 2H, which relates to agreements, do not permit the court to reopen the original award altogether. Therefore, what is set out in amendment 15 would not be the right approach. On amendment 16, the bill already includes a causation link to the original injury on two fronts: the original court order must include provision enabling an application to be varied in the future, and any change in condition has to result in significant over or undercompensation. The bill does not change the underlying principles in Scots law that require a causal connection between the injury and the loss for which the pursuer is to be compensated. Therefore, if the original order awarding periodical payments includes no provision for variation to be made in the future, the court might not even entertain an application from either party to vary. Where the court enables future variation in this way, it must specify the sort of change in the pursuer’s condition that must occur before an application can be made. In so doing, the original court order will be acting in the light of and subject to the essential rule in law of a causal connection between the injury and the loss. As a result, there is already a clear and necessary link between the original injury and the circumstances that might result in variation. The reference in proposed section 2F(3)(b)(ii) to “the injured person” being “significantly over- or under-” compensated also links the variation to the original injury and makes it clear that what we are talking about is a significant, not trivial, change to the pursuer’s condition. In addition, amendment 16 refers to a change being “attributable” to the injury, but it is not clear how that would work where the change is actually an improvement, as that would not be “attributable” to the injury. Put simply, the bill needs say nothing more to achieve what amendment 16 seems to be designed to achieve and in my view, therefore, it is not needed. For the reasons that I have given, I urge the member not to press amendment 15 and not to move amendment 16. If he does so, I ask the committee to reject the amendments.
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The Convener
Con
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The Convener
Con
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The Minister for Community Safety (Ash Denham)
SNP
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The Convener
Con
Amendment 11, in the name of Jackie Baillie, is grouped with amendment 13.
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab)
Lab
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The Convener
Con
I invite Dean Lockhart to speak to amendment 13.
Dean Lockhart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)
Con
Amendment 13 seeks to change the further margin adjustment from 0.5 per cent to 0.25 per cent. In its policy memorandum, the Government made clear that the f...
The Convener
Con
Did the member wish to say anything about amendment 11 in the name of Jackie Baillie, or has he covered it? I should have invited him to speak on that as well.
Dean Lockhart
Con
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John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP)
SNP
We received evidence on the issue that amendment 11 addresses during stage 1 and even since then we have had further briefings that go in opposite directions...
Angela Constance (Almond Valley) (SNP)
SNP
Like Mr Mason, I would be concerned that amendment 13 might lead to pursuers being undercompensated. Of course, the minister will have her own views on that....
The Convener
Con
Does any other member wish to speak? If not, the minister may respond. 10:00
Ash Denham
SNP
I am grateful to Jackie Baillie and Dean Lockhart for setting out the reasoning behind their respective amendments, although, in fact, they do opposing thing...
The Convener
Con
I ask Jackie Baillie for her closing comments and an indication of whether she wishes to press or withdraw amendment 11.
Jackie Baillie
Lab
The purpose of amendment 11, which was specifically based on expert advice and professional opinion and on the Government actuary’s own words, was to increas...
The Convener
Con
Minister, do you wish to respond to Jackie Baillie’s offer at this stage?
Ash Denham
SNP
Yes, I am happy to take Jackie Baillie up on her offer. I would be glad to meet her to discuss that if she is willing to withdraw amendment 11 at this stage.
Jackie Baillie
Lab
I am happy to do so. Amendment 11, by agreement, withdrawn.
The Convener
Con
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Dean Lockhart
Con
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The Convener
Con
We are looking for a brief winding up, as opposed to a general recap of the arguments at this stage, and for an indication of whether you wish to move the am...
Dean Lockhart
Con
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The Convener
Con
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Ash Denham
SNP
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The Convener
Con
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Dean Lockhart
Con
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The Convener
Con
If no member wishes to comment on amendment 14, I will give the minister the opportunity to respond.
Ash Denham
SNP
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The Convener
Con
Does Dean Lockhart wish to press amendment 14?
Dean Lockhart
Con
I press amendment 14. Amendment 14 agreed to. Schedule, as amended, agreed to. Section 3—Award, continuity and index-linking