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Ash Denham SNP Chamber
27 May 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is part of what the bill will do. It will attempt to give all children an opportunity to express their views in a way that is suitable to them. In doing so, we will regulate child welfare reporters. That is a key way that a child might be supported and be able to give the...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
25 Aug 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The Scottish Government does not support many amendments in group 5. Amendment 40, in the name of Liam MacArthur, would allow only social workers who were registered with the Scottish Social Services Council to be child welfare reporters. My officials have spoken to a number...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
23 Jun 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I am pleased to support amendments 60, 62 and 63, in the name of Rhoda Grant, subject to some minor issues being addressed before stage 3. The amendments will ensure that the requirement to consider the risk of abuse before making an order remains positioned in the 1995 act ne...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
23 Jun 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 33, in my name, provides that “where the court (a) is considering making an order under section 11(1), and (b) has to decide whether a person should have access to ... information relating to a child”, the court “must regard the welfare of that child as a primar...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
23 Jun 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The Scottish Government does not support the amendments in this group. Section 8 establishes a register of child welfare reporters, and individuals would be eligible to apply to be on the register if they met the relevant training and qualification requirements, which will be ...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
25 Aug 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
That is a good point, but the point that I am trying to make is that amendment 47 does not define “redress” or provide clarity. It is all very well for the member to say that matters can be worked out in the regulations, but we are talking about an entirely new scheme, so I do...
The Minister for Community Safety (Ash Denham) SNP Chamber
25 Aug 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The amendments in my name seek to strengthen the bill to ensure that the child’s views are heard in family court cases and children’s hearings. That is one of the key aims of the bill. The amendments do two things. First, they reinstate the requirement that children must be g...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
25 Aug 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill
I thank all stakeholders who engaged with the process for their considered comments, many of which have made their way into the final version of the bill. The Children (Scotland) Act 1995 is the key legislation on contact, residence and other parental responsibilities and rig...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
25 Aug 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill
I thank those members who contributed to the debate on the bill, and I put on record my thanks to the bill team for their hard work and unstinting support of me as we developed the legislation. The debate has shown that improving the family courts remains an important issue fo...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
23 Jun 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
On amendment 54, the committee recommended in the stage 1 report that the word “practicable” be removed from section 10. The section highlights the importance that the Government places on the need to promote relationships between siblings for children requiring care away from...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
23 Jun 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The amendments in my name seek to strengthen the bill to ensure that a child’s views are heard in family court cases and children’s hearings. That is one of the key aims of the bill. Amendments 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 and 10 give effect to the recommendation in the committee’s stage 1 ...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
25 Aug 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I support amendments 9, 10 and 11, and I am grateful to Rhoda Grant for the constructive engagement that we have had on the subject. Those amendments make technical changes to the provisions that she inserted at stage 2. Where the court is considering making an order that re...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
25 Feb 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am aware of the concerns about how the provisions will work in practice. The starting point is that a child deserves to receive an impartial explanation of decisions that affect their life. It has been suggested that the parents should explain such decisions, but I think tha...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
25 Aug 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I support amendments 36 and 46. I am grateful to Liam McArthur for the constructive engagement that we have had on the subject, and I am pleased that a consensus position has been reached. I hope that members will join me in supporting the amendments today. Two competing amen...
The Minister for Community Safety (Ash Denham) SNP Committee
25 Feb 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I do. Good morning and thank you for inviting me to give evidence on the Children (Scotland) Bill. I have been watching the committee’s evidence sessions with great interest and I am very interested in some of the things that have been raised during the process. The bill aims...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
25 Feb 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
At the moment, about 90 per cent of child welfare reporters are solicitors. Of course, lawyers bring to the role a range of skills that are extremely beneficial and welcome. The committee probably recognises that other professionals—such as social workers, who also act as chil...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
25 Feb 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That provision is not in the bill. Children already have rights to confidentiality, which is protected. It is a complicated area because, as you pointed out, a number of rights are at play, and a number of welfare issues. For example, a child who provides confidential informat...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
19 Feb 2020
Portfolio Question Time · Access Rights for Grandparents
Currently, a grandparent can apply for a contact order under section 11 of the Children (Scotland) Act 1995. In making a decision, the welfare of the child will be the court’s “paramount consideration”, taking into account the views that are expressed by the child. The bill wo...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
27 May 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I will. I will come on to address section 16 in a moment, because it has been raised several times during the debate. A number of members—among them Margaret Mitchell, Fulton MacGregor and Kenny Gibson—asked me to explain a bit more how I intend to promote further the charter...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
09 May 2019
Vulnerable Witnesses (Criminal Evidence) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I am grateful to Margaret Mitchell for her continued commitment to achieving progress in ensuring that children’s evidence is taken in an appropriate setting, where the right support is available. As the cabinet secretary has said to the Parliament throughout the passage of t...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
09 May 2019
Vulnerable Witnesses (Criminal Evidence) (Scotland) Bill
I regret that we were unable to support Margaret Mitchell’s amendment 7. We believe that the amendment would have placed an unnecessary and potentially inhibiting legislative burden on the Scottish Government. I hope that what I have said today reassures Parliament that we are...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
23 Jun 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I appreciate the aims of amendment 84, but I cannot support it. I am aware that a number of stakeholders have suggested that the bill should introduce a formal system of child support workers. I have therefore committed to bring forward, before stage 3, more detailed plans wit...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
25 Feb 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am aware that that evidence has been given to the committee. Child welfare reporters play an extremely important role in supporting children and ensuring that their views are heard during the court process. However, points have been raised about a need for greater consistenc...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
07 Sep 2021
Scottish Government Priorities for Civil Justice
I agree with Karen Adam’s points. One of the aims of the Children (Scotland) Act 2020 that we took through Parliament in the last session was recognition that we need to do more to protect victims of domestic violence on the civil side. A number of representations were made to...
Ash Denham (Edinburgh Eastern) (SNP) SNP Chamber
17 May 2017
Neurofibromatosis Awareness Day
I extend my thanks to all the members of the Scottish Parliament who have joined me today in recognising world neurofibromatosis—or Nf—awareness day. I begin by paying tribute to Beth Beattie, who sadly passed away on 4 November last year at just four years old. I draw members...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
27 May 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am grateful to the member for raising that issue. He will recall that I met him and his constituents so that I could hear from them at first hand about the matter. He highlights the important role that grandparents play in children’s lives. For that reason, in our “Family Ju...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
25 Aug 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 34 will have a positive impact on children and young people who are cared for away from home. It will enable an individual to participate in a children’s hearing when they are not a “relevant person” but meet criteria as a qualifying sibling or relative. The provisi...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
23 Jun 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendments 11 to 14 strengthen the provision that section 4 makes on the prohibition of personal conduct of a case. One of the aims of the bill is to further protect victims of abuse and domestic abuse in family court cases and children’s hearings. The prohibition of personal...
Ash Regan (Edinburgh Eastern) (Alba) Alba Chamber
20 Mar 2025
Criminal Exploitation of Children
I, too, congratulate Michael Matheson on bringing this critical issue to the chamber. I hope that the Government will allocate time for a fuller debate on the topic in the future. Today’s debate should be not a formality but a crucial step in eradicating the criminal exploita...
The Minister for Community Safety (Ash Denham) SNP Chamber
03 Oct 2019
Portfolio Question Time · Domestic Abuse
The Children (Scotland) Bill was introduced on 2 September. A key aim of the bill is to further protect victims of domestic abuse and their children in family courts. In particular, the bill restricts the personal conduct of a case in proceedings that involve vulnerable witn...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
25 Feb 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You raise a fair point. We certainly would not expect somebody from the Highlands to produce a child welfare report in the Scottish Borders, for instance. All those issues will be considered. However, it is important that we move towards consistency in quality and training and...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
25 Feb 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I return to my previous answer. We have to keep in mind that we are taking a child welfare approach here and that the welfare of the child is paramount, and it is up to the court to decide how it implements that. The presumption of shared parenting could cut across that. The ...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
25 Aug 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendments 37 to 39 seek to provide further protection to vulnerable parties in evidential and non-evidential hearings in particular child welfare hearings, and to vulnerable witnesses when a case under section 11 of the 1995 act reaches proof. When a person is deemed to be a...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
07 Sep 2021
Scottish Government Priorities for Civil Justice
We need to work through quite a lot with those issues. The matter of child welfare reporters was clearly a big part of the bill, so we spent quite a bit of time discussing it. We have a real opportunity to set training and standards for child welfare reporters and curators ad ...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
19 Feb 2020
Portfolio Question Time · Access Rights for Grandparents
I thank Alex Cole-Hamilton for raising the matter and mentioning that I met him and his constituents to explore the issue with them. We want to ensure that children can expect to know and maintain contact with their wider family, except in very exceptional circumstances. Howev...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
25 Feb 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The bill makes it clear that there are a number of methods that could be used, but it is not intended to be an exhaustive list. We know that there will be costs associated with that, and the financial memorandum is quite detailed on that point. It represents our best estimate ...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
05 Mar 2019
Subordinate Legislation
That is a good point. At the moment we have good co-operation with other EU member states, and we have the role of the central authority for Scotland—so we receive requests and put out requests, for example on issues to do with child protection, which is an issue that Mary Fee...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
25 Feb 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
With appropriate support, even really quite young children can express views on matters that affect them, if they are approached in the right way and they can express their views in a way that suits them. The bill removes the presumption that a child aged 12 or older is mature...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
23 Jun 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I do not agree with James Kelly’s argument, but my offer stands: I am happy to work with him ahead of stage 3 if he thinks that that would help to address his concerns. I reiterate that the bill’s drafting follows the wording of article 12 of the United Nations Convention on t...
Ash Regan (Edinburgh Eastern) (Alba) Alba Chamber
19 Mar 2025
Sexual Violence (Hospitals)
I congratulate Tess White on bringing this important debate to the chamber, and I congratulate the Women’s Rights Network on its report. Observers of proceedings in the chamber and in some of our committees over the past months may conclude that sex realists are from Venus an...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
10 May 2018
General Question Time · Family Courts
The proposal that private practice solicitors who currently act as child welfare reporters will receive two days’ training will not put children’s welfare at the centre. Elsewhere, it is deemed that people who are qualified, skilled and caring professionals are best placed to ...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
31 Jan 2018
Budget (Scotland) (No 2) Bill: Stage 1
I am sure that members have seen the recent polls that show that the majority of the Scottish public supports our tax plans. The budget provides for a £400 million increase in health spending alone, which is well above inflation and is part of a total record spend of £13.1 bi...
The Minister for Community Safety (Ash Denham) SNP Chamber
19 Feb 2020
Portfolio Question Time · Access Rights for Grandparents
The Scottish Government recognises the important role that grandparents play in many families in bringing up children. We have not included a specific provision in the Children (Scotland) Bill on the relationships between a grandparent and a child, as we believe that such a pr...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
25 Feb 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Sure. It will need to grow. Obviously, we will need to keep an eye on the situation in order to ensure that enough professionals are available to do the job. We are looking at bringing in other professionals who can deliver the best service to the child. That might well includ...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
23 Jun 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Lengthy court proceedings and undue delays in cases relating to children are not in a child’s best interests, which is why section 21 provides that “the court is to have regard to any risk of prejudice to the child’s welfare that delay in proceedings would pose.” That compl...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
02 Mar 2021
Defamation and Malicious Publication (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The two things are different. We have the definition, and the serious harm threshold is for actionability. If someone can prove that they have been harmed, they will be able to take that forward in the courts. If you have been harmed, it is important that you are able to show ...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
07 Sep 2021
Scottish Government Priorities for Civil Justice
Yes. It does not feel like that long ago; I think that it was in September last year. We are still working on analysis of the consultation responses, so I will have to get back to the committee once that work has been completed, if that is okay. The responses point to broad ...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
13 Mar 2019
Portfolio Question Time · Scottish Legal Aid Board (Project Funding)
The tackling child poverty delivery plan, which was published in March 2018, sets out action across Government to contribute towards reductions in the child poverty level. The plan, which covers the period 2018 to 2022, is backed by a multimillion pound package of investment, ...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
25 Feb 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have not. The Scottish Government believes strongly that both parents should be fully involved in their child’s upbringing as long as that is in the best interests of the child. The courts already apply the general principle that it will normally be beneficial for children t...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
25 Feb 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The situation here is very similar. I appreciate that the very important role that many grandparents play in children’s lives has been highlighted in written evidence. We recognise that in the family justice modernisation strategy, and we have something called the charter for ...
The Minister for Community Safety (Ash Denham) SNP Chamber
27 May 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Presiding Officer, thank you for giving me the opportunity to address the Parliament on the general principles of the Children (Scotland) Bill. I am delighted to open the debate. I am grateful to the Justice Committee for its careful scrutiny of the bill, and I welcome its re...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
23 Jun 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
On amendment 75, I appreciate the point that Shared Parenting Scotland raised in its submission about the use of the terms “contact” and “residence” wrongly implying that one parent has a closer relationship with the child or more decision-making powers than the other parent. ...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
25 Aug 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The amendments in this group seek to remove and replace sections 11A and 11B, on funding for alternative dispute resolution, which were added to the bill at stage 2. The new provisions will achieve the policy aims of sections 11A and 11B, but they address issues that might hav...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
25 Aug 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I appreciate the concerns that John Finnie has expressed. I agree with him that, if a child or young person has concerns about how their court case has been handled, those concerns need to be taken seriously and listened to. Ensuring that the views of the child are heard is a ...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
02 Sep 2021
General Question Time · Drowning Prevention Strategy
I am grateful to Clare Adamson for highlighting the relevance of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. It is because we attach such fundamental importance to the rights and wellbeing of our children that we legislated to incorporate the convention, as far as possible, ...
Ash Regan SNP Committee
25 May 2022
Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
There are lots of examples, so I do not want members to read too much into the particular one that I will use. I use it for illustrative purposes. Let us say that a parent sees their child with a firework, does not know where they got it from—they certainly did not give it t...
Ash Regan (Edinburgh Eastern) (Alba) Alba Chamber
08 Feb 2024
Budget (Scotland) (No 3) Bill: Stage 1
The brutal choices that the Scottish Government has had to make are a result of a fiscal framework that is set up to fail Scotland, as I warned a few weeks ago in the chamber. Are we really surprised any more by the callous actions of a UK Tory Government that is hostile to pe...
Ash Regan Alba Chamber
20 Feb 2025
Portfolio Question Time · Financial Literacy (Children)
The programme for government prioritises eradicating child poverty, but the Joseph Rowntree Foundation reports that 26 per cent of children in Scotland still live in relative poverty. Although the Scottish child payment is crucial, we cannot merely react to poverty outcomes: w...
Ash Denham SNP Chamber
16 May 2019
Portfolio Question Time · Temporary Release
I thank Liam Kerr for raising the issue. I believe that the letter that he refers to came this week—I think that it was dated 15 May. Obviously, the cabinet secretary will respond to that letter in a timely fashion when he returns from his paternity leave. On the asks that we...
Ash Denham SNP Committee
25 Feb 2020
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Section 10 strengthens a piece of practice that should already be happening, and we indicated in the financial memorandum that we do not consider that to be a new burden. Local authorities have to act in support of the welfare of the children they have responsibility for. We k...
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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 27 May 2020

27 May 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Children (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Regan, Ash SNP Edinburgh Eastern Watch on SPTV

That is part of what the bill will do. It will attempt to give all children an opportunity to express their views in a way that is suitable to them. In doing so, we will regulate child welfare reporters. That is a key way that a child might be supported and be able to give their views. We will also set up a system of training for child welfare reporters. We will expect them to be trained in issues such as coercive control, spotting unhealthy family dynamics and so on, so that those professionals are able to support the children to give their views without any pressure of the type that Jamie Greene mentions.

I appreciate the concerns that stakeholders raised about strengthening the bill in that area, and I propose to lodge an amendment at stage 2 to strengthen the provisions in sections 1 to 3 to avoid, as far as possible, the risk of the capacity exemption being used excessively by decision makers. I also propose to lodge an amendment at stage 2 to clarify that, when the court investigates the reasons for non-compliance with a court order, it should seek the views of the child concerned. The bill states that the decision maker must

“give the child an opportunity to express the child’s views in a manner suitable to the child”.

One of the aspects of the guidance for parties and courts that I have committed to in our “Family Justice Modernisation Strategy” is publication of information on the ways in which a child can give their views to the court. I have also committed to producing a public paper in advance of stage 3 that will outline the ways in which children can be supported to give their views to decision makers. It is important that, when a child has given their views to the court, the reasons for the court’s decision are explained to the child in a clear and impartial way. For that reason, the bill ensures that the outcomes and the reasons for them are explained to the child. We would not expect all decisions to be explained, as many would be procedural in nature, but we would expect the important decisions to be explained.

I understand that a number of stakeholders have suggested that the bill should include provisions around child support workers. That issue was also raised by the Justice Committee in its stage 1 report. Child support workers could play a useful role in supporting children to give their views when they are, say, completing a form or when they are speaking to a child welfare reporter or a sheriff. However, we need to ensure that minimum standards of training and experience are set out in legislation to ensure consistency of approach and that the best interests of the child are maintained. Further work is needed on that issue, to ensure a joined-up approach so that any provisions work with existing support and advocacy systems and with other proposed Scottish Government work.

When the bill was introduced, I published the “Family Justice Modernisation Strategy”, which sets out work for secondary legislation on guidance and work that requires further consideration. One action in the strategy is to further consider the role of all support workers. The paper outlines the ways in which children can be supported to give their views to decision makers, which I referred to earlier in my remarks, and will look further at child support workers.

I will briefly focus on the regulation of child welfare reporters. I am aware that that issue was also raised in the stage 1 evidence and in the Justice Committee’s report. I recognise that child welfare reporters can play an important role in ensuring that the best interests of the child are reported to the court. The bill will establish a register of child welfare reporters, and it will give them two new functions: explaining decisions and investigating reasons for non-compliance with an order. The full details of training requirements will be laid out in secondary legislation, and we will consult fully on those in due course. I am aware that children and young people who have spoken to a child welfare reporter will have views on their training and experience, so I will ensure that children and young people are fully involved in the consultation process.

At the moment, about 90 per cent of child welfare reporters are lawyers. One of the aims of the bill is to encourage more non-lawyers, such as child psychologists and social workers, to become child welfare reporters. In my response to the stage 1 report, I committed to setting out before the first stage 2 session how we propose to encourage other professionals to become child welfare reporters.

It is important to note that the list of child welfare reporters will be maintained at a national level. A centralised list will ensure a consistent approach across Scotland to the making of appointments, the handling of complaints and so on. It will also ensure that there is consistency across the country in how child welfare reporters on the list are appointed to undertake those reports. I would envisage that, where possible, a local child welfare reporter would be appointed.

On the promotion of contact between looked-after children and their siblings, in March, Ms Todd—the Minister for Children and Young People—announced that she wished to put looked-after children’s contact with their brothers and sisters on the same legal footing as their contact with their parents, where that was practical and appropriate, and we aim to do that under section 10 of the bill.

If the bill is passed, I commit to proceeding with its implementation as quickly as possible. However, there are certain aspects of the bill that will take time. It is important that, on areas such as the child welfare reporters, curators ad litem, accommodation standards and training requirements for contact centres and their staff, there is full and proper consultation. If I can progress other areas more quickly, I will do so. Of course, implementation tasks for the bill will need to be reviewed in the light of the Covid-19 situation.

I believe that the bill is an important step forward in improving the family courts. During the consultation on and development of the bill, in listening to the voices of young people, one theme came through very strongly: “No one is listening to me and no one is listening to what I want.” The bill aims to change that, and I commend the general principles of the bill to Parliament.

I move,

That the Parliament agrees to the general principles of the Children (Scotland) Bill.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Lewis Macdonald) Lab
The next item of business is a stage 1 debate on motion S5M-21834, in the name of Ash Denham, on the Children (Scotland) Bill. 15:05
The Minister for Community Safety (Ash Denham) SNP
Presiding Officer, thank you for giving me the opportunity to address the Parliament on the general principles of the Children (Scotland) Bill. I am delighte...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
Does the minister recognise that, in that consultation, children overwhelmingly supported the right of children to have meaningful relationships with grandpa...
Ash Denham SNP
I am grateful to the member for raising that issue. He will recall that I met him and his constituents so that I could hear from them at first hand about the...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
The minister mentions brothers and sisters. The Justice Committee’s recommendations on the bill include the ask that the word “practicable” be removed from s...
Ash Denham SNP
The relationship between siblings is very important, and we really want the duties to be implemented in practice. We will continue to work with local authori...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I apologise—I am not on the Justice Committee, so I have not followed the bill all the way through. Will the minister explain how, if all children are treate...
Ash Denham SNP
That is part of what the bill will do. It will attempt to give all children an opportunity to express their views in a way that is suitable to them. In doing...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Margaret Mitchell will now speak on behalf of the Justice Committee. 15:22
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
As the convener of the Justice Committee, I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak in the stage 1 debate on the Children (Scotland) Bill and to thank al...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I remind members that I am a practising solicitor holding certificates with the law societies of England and Wales, and Scotland. In opening for the Conserva...
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
Does the member agree that section 16 could provide a safeguard for parents who are protecting their children from domestic abuse? That can be a very good re...
Liam Kerr Con
I do. That is an important point, and I am grateful to Rona Mackay for making it. However, on balance, the evidence that we heard leads me to believe that se...
Neil Findlay Lab
I encourage the minister to listen to that point. I do not want to speak for other parties but, given what Liam Kerr seems to be saying, it would appear that...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The minister is not on her feet and speaking just now. If Mr Kerr would like to stand up and take an intervention from the minister, that will be acceptable....
Liam Kerr Con
I am grateful, Presiding Officer. I will take an intervention from the minister.
Ash Denham SNP
I reassure Neil Findlay that I am, of course, listening to everything that is being said in the debate and making careful notes on it. He will note that the ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Minister, you are intervening on Mr Kerr. We can always rely on Mr Findlay to get us all confused. Laughter.
Ash Denham SNP
My apologies. I will of course be happy to meet both members in order to discuss the issue further.
Liam Kerr Con
I am grateful for that. I am grateful to both members for their interventions, because the point is well made. However, I want to develop it slightly, becaus...
Ash Denham SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Liam Kerr Con
Do I have time, Presiding Officer?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Yes.
Liam Kerr Con
Thank you. I will take the intervention.
Ash Denham SNP
The independent care review report, which is entitled “Follow the Money”, provides reassurance that there is that money in the system. In this year’s local g...
Liam Kerr Con
I am grateful to the minister, but that does not change the fact that there is nothing on the subject in the financial memorandum. I believe that my point is...
Fulton MacGregor (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We do not have any more extra time. Perhaps you can contribute later, Mr MacGregor.
Liam Kerr Con
I came to the bill from a standing start. I had not done anything in the family courts, except for some second-hand personal experience, since the very start...
James Kelly (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I thank the Justice Committee clerks for putting together the report under very difficult circumstances, particularly towards the end of the process, when th...