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Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
20 Nov 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am delighted to speak on behalf of the Economy and Fair Work Committee in the stage 1 debate on the Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill. I apologise for not being in Parliament in person. I acknowledge the receipt of the letter from the minister, which he mentioned and...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
25 May 2022
Community Wealth Building
I am grateful for that lengthy intervention. It provides some clarity, but I think that we need to go further. If we look at examples, both here in Scotland in North Ayrshire and elsewhere, we see that a firm commitment needs investment as well as intent. It goes beyond simply...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
10 Feb 2026
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill
I have only five minutes, so I will stay on the topic. In addition, the standing orders say that we must speak to the motion. Laughter.I will speak to a point that Murdo Fraser alluded to. An interesting alliance formed at some points during stage 2 when Richard Leonard, Murdo...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 May 2022
Community Wealth Building
If we were being frank and honest, and if we went around the chamber and asked every member what they meant by “community wealth building”, we would probably find a lot of very different answers. If we went outside the chamber to the street, we might find that people did not k...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Feb 2026
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
In many ways, I pick up where Murdo Fraser left off. One of the committee’s key concerns or observations during stages 1 and 2 was that, without any system of measures or monitoring, there is a risk that the legislation could produce reports that are not comparable and that do...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
10 Feb 2026
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Much as I did with the amendments in the previous group, I sought at stage 2 to introduce things that I thought would ensure progress towards community wealth building and looked at whether further means needed to be afforded to enable community wealth building to take place. ...
The Convener Lab Committee
21 Jan 2026
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will speak to amendment 27 and the other amendments that I have lodged in the group. As Murdo Fraser has pointed out, amendment 27 is in a similar ball park to his amendment 17. As we discussed at stage 1, the bill does little more than require the compilation of plans in co...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
My final question is for you, Morven Taylor, particularly because you are from the housing sector. One of my concerns about the bill is that it talks in quite broad and general terms about community wealth building, but in communities that have high levels of deprivation there...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
25 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
This will not work unless there is capacity and capability to heed the calls. It is about ensuring that people who know how to do that stuff have the confidence to do it. That is not going to happen unless there is support. Is there a possibility of considering broad duties to...
The Convener Lab Committee
14 Jan 2026
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Item 2 is stage 2 consideration of the Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill. I will briefly explain the procedure that we will follow during today’s proceedings for anyone watching. Members should have with them a copy of the bill, the marshalled list and the groupings. T...
The Convener Lab Committee
14 Jan 2026
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will also briefly comment on the group.I associate myself with members’ comments in support for the general principles of the bill and about the need for a bill that provides a useful and practical framework for the organisations that will be tasked with developing community...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
23 Nov 2017
Building Regulations (Fire Safety)
I can safely say that it has been an interesting, engaging and in-depth debate that has raised some big, fundamental questions about what one can expect when one is buying a new-build home and about the safety of our schools and public places. It has also reflected on the trag...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
This question is for Adrian Sargent. In much of what community wealth building stands for, you can see the threads of development economics. Central to that has been a focus on building actual capital—financial capital—through looking at micro-loan systems and how they can evo...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 May 2022
Community Wealth Building
I am grateful for the minister’s commitment to the ideas that he is talking about. However, he would have to acknowledge that, despite the seven references in NSET to community wealth building, there is little in there about what is actually meant by that, or the resources tha...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
25 May 2022
Community Wealth Building
My understanding is that, in relation to value, the leases were sold off for just 5 per cent of the total revenues that will be generated. Does Willie Rennie agree that we have little more than platitudes from the Government in relation to securing supply chains? Is that not a...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
18 Feb 2025
Community Wealth Building
I thank the minister for prior sight of the statement. Although I found the statement to be interesting in terms of context and examples, it is short of practical steps on how the Scottish Government will seek to implement community wealth building. I agree with him about pu...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
11 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have a brief follow-up question. You will have to undertake additional activities and co-ordination. You have mentioned community planning partnerships, which already exist. If the cabinet secretary, in a letter of direction to Scottish Enterprise, said that you must do cert...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
11 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Great, thank you. I return to Jackie Taylor. Councils have to abide by quite a number of different bits of guidance, both statutory and non-statutory. Councils absolutely must follow statutory guidance—that is a matter of law. Updates to guidance could deliver very similar re...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The point has been made that targets are really important and I think that that point is germane to that. I take the view that, ultimately, community wealth building is about growing capital—financial capital and social capital—within communities that have a deficit of that. ...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The previous witnesses touched on the fact that there are already existing levers and vehicles in this area, such as the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Act 2015 and community asset transfer, and we discussed the fact that the bill does not re-examine or tweak any of those th...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
25 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I guess that I am saying that we should update existing guidance or legislation. I am not saying that it should be replaced; I am saying only that it should be updated. I also wonder whether the bill could update the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Act 2015, as has already b...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
12 Feb 2026
Edinburgh South Community Football Club and Grass-roots Football
Inaudible. My competence with the technology in the chamber is matched by my competence at football.In these sorts of debates, many of us will say that we came into politics and the Parliament to make a difference, but we all know that it is the organisations in our communitie...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
12 Feb 2026
Edinburgh South Community Football Club and Grass-roots Football
I am grateful to Ben Macpherson for intervening, although I think that he has shown that he is probably more qualified than I am to speak on the topic. His wider point is absolutely right: we need collaboration and co-operation and, critically, we need local authorities to com...
The Convener Lab Committee
21 Jan 2026
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I am grateful for that constructive insight. It recognises that there is a balance to be struck. Would the minister agree to meet the members who have amendments in this group to discuss potential ways forward? I think that we all want to ensure that there is progress in commu...
The Convener Lab Committee
21 Jan 2026
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I am sorry—I realise that I did not effectively cover all of amendment 29 in my comments. A point that has been discussed widely, both when we were taking evidence and more broadly, is that, although the 2015 act has been a step forward and is a critical tool for developing co...
The Convener Lab Committee
21 Jan 2026
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Further to that, it is interesting that the minister mentioned the Deputy First Minister’s work on investment and so on, and he rightly mentioned fiduciary duties. Ultimately, the first duty of the trustees will be to ensure that the interests of the scheme members are oversee...
The Convener Lab Committee
21 Jan 2026
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The result of the division is: For 3, Against 6, Abstentions 0.Amendment 139 disagreed to.Section 9—Guidance about community wealth building
The Convener Lab Committee
14 Jan 2026
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Given the progress that we have made, I will draw to a close this morning’s stage 2 proceedings of the Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill. We will resume our proceedings next week.12:36Meeting continued in private until 12:57.
The Convener Lab Committee
14 Jan 2026
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The result of the division is: For 2, Against 7, Abstentions 0.Amendment 56 disagreed to.Section 4, as amended, agreed to.Section 5—Community wealth building action plan
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
01 Oct 2024
Aggregates Tax and Devolved Taxes Administration (Scotland) Bill
I do not really know how to follow on from the amazing pun that Kenneth Gibson just delivered to the chamber, but it gives me great pleasure to join my former colleagues on the Finance and Public Administration Committee. I share the rest of the chamber’s congratulations to t...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2020
Showing Solidarity with Anti-racism
I am pleased to speak in this debate, but I do so very mindful of the fact that I am speaking as a white man. I will share my reflections on what has happened over the past few days. The words “I can’t breathe” have been uttered before in this debate. Those simple visceral wo...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Sep 2025
Scotland’s Finances
In the contribution that we have just heard from Lorna Slater, there is an important point that speaks to the Government’s amendment. If the Government were at all serious about a wealth tax, it would have done exactly what Lorna Slater set out: it would have reformed council ...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
20 Apr 2017
First Minister’s Question Time · School Building Defects
The issue has had a distinct impact on my constituency. A year ago, the pupils at St Peter’s RC primary school had to go elsewhere and Liberton high school had to host pupils from neighbouring Gracemount high school. Dozens of families who send their children to Oxgangs primar...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
09 Jan 2018
Tenement Communal Property (Maintenance)
I, too, thank the member for bringing forward the debate. It is telling that the issue does not just bring members of different parties together—we are even hearing agreement between MSPs from Edinburgh and MSPs from Glasgow. There is no greater testament to the importance of ...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
26 Jun 2019
Tenement Maintenance
There have been a great number of speeches, and it is notable how much agreement there has been in the chamber. I do not propose to rehearse any of the arguments, but I will emphasise for the minister what I think the key points are, bearing in mind his statement planned for t...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
25 May 2022
Community Wealth Building
Yes—I would be grateful for more detail.
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
25 May 2022
Community Wealth Building
I totally agree with Liz Smith’s point about transparency. One of the problems is that it does not feel as though any money is being committed to this policy, let alone there being the opportunity for transparency. Does she agree?
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
11 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you, convener; I will do my best. What will our witnesses be able to do as a result of the bill that they cannot currently do? What will they have to do that they do not currently, not including meetings or reports? I will start with our colleague either from the local...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
11 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Please do.
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
11 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We seem to have some interference on the audio.
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
11 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
What additional powers, abilities or capacities will the legislation give you that you do not currently have, and what will you have to do that you do not currently do, not including reports that you will have to produce or meetings that you will have to go to? What outcomes w...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
11 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You are saying that you are already carrying out the work and you probably already have the plans, but you might just have to retitle them. Is that what you are saying?
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
11 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Jackie Taylor, I will ask you the same question. What will you be able to do that you cannot currently do, and what will you have to do that you are not already doing?
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
11 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That would be in a letter of direction, so that would not require legislation, would it?
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
11 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I will leave my questions there. For the avoidance of doubt, I have been playing the role of devil’s advocate this morning. I thank the witnesses for their comments—your responses have been very helpful.
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It has been a really interesting discussion. I will more or less do a series of supplementaries and pull on some of the threads that have already been discussed. I will start with Matt Pearce. Is a fair summary of what you are saying that there is a risk of there being a bit o...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you, that is really useful clarification. Is there a missed opportunity here to fine tune some of the powerful levers, as you described them, that we already have? To give context to that, I was involved in an attempted community asset transfer that failed, largely becau...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That makes sense. Stacey Dingwall, could I ask you a couple of questions? I do not know whether I need to declare an interest, but I obviously have some prejudices towards small businesses, and when I was running a small business I was a member of the Federation of Small Busi...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That sounds like general engagement, but I think that there is a need to really engage with the detail. I am interested in what prevents small businesses from applying for contracts, and what gets in the way of people and communities setting up businesses, which might begin as...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am thinking about the things that the bill could do and what you touched on there. The bill will require local authorities and other public bodies to do an additional set of consultation and produce a report. You seem to be suggesting that there is a convening power element....
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It is very helpful. I think we should try to overcome those issues, but that is a very helpful contribution.
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Picking up on that, earlier the representative of the FSB on our first panel of witnesses said that the reporting mechanisms that many councils use, which involve not specifying spend below a certain threshold, such as £50,000, mean that we do not get clarity on what is being ...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Is it something you could look at?
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good enterprise resource planning software should enable you to see the granular detail of what you are spending on businesses in which postcode areas, and that would allow you to aggregate and report spending on SMEs. That would probably do more than anything else to address ...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The previous witnesses alluded to things that perhaps should be included in the bill, such as initial facilitation that makes it easier for small businesses and community organisations to engage, processes to engage community organisations at the start of a process and standar...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is exactly my question.
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Again, however, that is more an expression of hope regarding what might be in the guidance rather than a suggestion for something that might be specified in the bill.
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you. I will leave it there.
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Committee
25 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am known for nothing else but plain speaking. You should not smile so broadly, minister. The subtext to this is that there is a risk that, in essence, nothing will really change as a result of the bill—the Government will issue another set of guidance, there will be a round...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
25 Jun 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The second suggestion is the one that you alluded to. What we need, in part, is a change in the procurement approach. Is there a possibility that, rather than only changing the narration of what is going on in procurement—which is what the report would do—there could be a chan...
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Meeting of the Parliament 20 November 2025

20 Nov 2025 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Johnson, Daniel Lab Edinburgh Southern Watch on SPTV

I am delighted to speak on behalf of the Economy and Fair Work Committee in the stage 1 debate on the Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill. I apologise for not being in Parliament in person. I acknowledge the receipt of the letter from the minister, which he mentioned and which we received this afternoon.

I thank everyone who responded to our call for views and the witnesses who gave evidence during our stage 1 scrutiny. I extend my thanks to those who enabled our visits to Alloa and Irvine, which provided invaluable local and practical insights. I also acknowledge the previous work by the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee, on whose work we also relied.

Community wealth building is a proven economic development tool that aims to retain wealth within local communities, to foster engagement and cohesion and, ultimately, to enrich the lives of residents. As the committee heard, many local authorities across Scotland have already begun implementing community wealth building measures, either on their own account or as part of the Scottish Government’s pilot. The bill seeks to formalise the approach to ensure the adoption of community wealth building as a model of economic development across the country.

As members will have seen from our report, the Economy and Fair Work Committee is supportive of that general aim. However, the committee heard from some who felt that legislation might not be necessary to achieve the aims that are stated in the bill and that alternative measures, such as ministerial guidance or direction, could be used to achieve the same aims. Some also felt that new powers and additional metrics could be added to the bill to strengthen its aims. The committee heard from some, including Neil McInroy, the chair of the Economic Development Association Scotland, that a legislative approach such as the one used in the bill contains a clear “obligation to act” and ensures involvement from across the public sector, and therefore is of benefit.

Generally, the committee supports the measures in the bill, but we believe that in some areas they could be strengthened and extended. The publication of a community wealth building statement and the establishment of partnerships by the Scottish Government are welcome steps, but they are only part of the solution. Throughout our evidence gathering, the importance of there being clear, detailed and practical guidance under section 9 of the bill was repeatedly emphasised. To ensure consistent adoption of guidance, it must help local authorities and partnerships to understand the objectives and the means of achieving them.

Crucially, the guidance must address capacity challenges in local authorities, partner organisations and community groups. As Matt Pearce from Development Trusts Association Scotland warned, without that support, community wealth building risks becoming a burdensome and disengaging process. Accordingly, the guidance must set out clear expectations—particularly around governance, co-ordination, monitoring and evaluation mechanisms—that encompass the public, private and third sector and, most importantly, local communities.

To realise the full potential of community wealth building action plans, it is essential that local authorities and their partners are properly resourced to do so. Many witnesses expressed concern about the capacity of organisations that are already under great financial pressure to engage in the development and delivery of those plans. The City of Edinburgh Council told us that the financial memorandum presents “an incomplete picture” of the resources required. The Convention of Scottish Local Authorities echoed that concern, warning that, without proper funding, action plans risk becoming “a tick box exercise”.

The bill has triggered a financial resolution acknowledging the significant expenditure involved. We also note the minister’s suggestion that some resources could be drawn from existing budgets. However, the committee remains concerned that, without additional support and consideration of the total additional effort that the legislation may require, inconsistent or limited delivery may result.

Although community lies at the heart of the concept of community wealth building, the bill makes no reference to the community groups, third sector groups or private sector representatives in the partnerships. That omission was highlighted by many witnesses and respondents to our call for views. Witnesses, including the Scottish Community Alliance, called for the bill to formally recognise third sector and community groups as being essential to delivery.

The committee also received evidence regarding the need for mechanisms that enable direct citizen involvement in the development of community wealth building plans and approaches. The committee therefore recommends that guidance produced under the bill should set out a clear expectation for local authorities and partnerships to engage with the third sector, and I urge the Government to undertake further work on developing practical approaches for citizen engagement.

I also note that the committee raised a question about the rationale for the selection of the specified bodies that are required to be consulted. In our report, we highlight suggestions from witnesses and stakeholders for additional bodies that could usefully be included in the list.

The bill does not specify how the impact of community wealth building action plans will be measured, leaving that to local authorities and their partners, as noted in the intervention taken by the minister. Witnesses emphasised the need for consistent, high-quality data, warning that without it, progress cannot be accurately assessed. I emphasise that that is not simply about the targets; it is about having consistent metrics, with the targets being set by the partnerships. Having consistent metrics will allow comparison across community wealth building plans.

The FSB highlighted the importance of standardised reporting and, as has been noted, that measuring the value created for local small and medium-sized enterprises is critical to understanding how well community wealth building is being delivered. To support consistency in the sharing of best practice, the committee recommends a set of core common metrics to be agreed with the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, and that those should sit alongside area-specific goals, allowing flexibility while enabling meaningful comparison.

In addition to our recommendations for improving the bill, the committee heard that complementary reforms in other policy areas are essential to maximise the impact of the legislation. Stakeholders consistently highlighted that procurement reform is key to enabling community wealth building. Proposals included lowering the threshold for mandatory consideration of community benefits; raising the threshold for regulated procurement and allowing direct awards to local suppliers where community benefits are evident; prioritising social value in procurement scoring; and standardising procurement reporting, particularly in relation to SMEs.

There were also calls to expand the definition of supported businesses to allow public bodies to restrict tenders by geography or company size; to streamline the asset transfer process and review the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Act 2015; and to strengthen powers of compulsory purchase and examine the possibility of the introduction of compulsory sale orders.

With the right support and complementary reforms, the bill has the potential to significantly improve the lives of people and communities across Scotland. The Economy and Fair Work Committee supports the general principles of the bill and looks forward to receiving further detail from the Scottish Government ahead of stages 2 and 3, should the Parliament approve the principles of the bill at decision time.

15:17  

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Michelle Thomson (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
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Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
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Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (LD) LD
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Ivan McKee SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jamie Greene LD
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I can give you the time back.
Jamie Greene LD
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Ivan McKee SNP
My intervention relates to the point about our not delivering on procurement. Across the UK, the average percentage of procurement spend that goes to small a...
Jamie Greene LD
Are you answering a question or asking a question?
Ivan McKee SNP
Asking.
Jamie Greene LD
My question to the Government is, what more is it doing to ensure that local procurement is easy? We have heard the evidence. Nobody in the chamber could thi...
Ivan McKee SNP
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Jamie Greene LD
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The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the open debate. 15:39