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Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
18 Dec 2018
Damages (Investment Returns and Periodical Repayments) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I, too, thank the clerks and members of the Economy, Energy and Fair Work Committee for their excellent work at stage 1 of the Damages (Investment Returns and Periodical Payments) (Scotland) Bill. I acknowledge the many organisations and individuals who participated in the con...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
20 Nov 2025
Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am delighted to speak on behalf of the Economy and Fair Work Committee in the stage 1 debate on the Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill. I apologise for not being in Parliament in person. I acknowledge the receipt of the letter from the minister, which he mentioned and...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
19 Mar 2019
Damages (Investment Returns and Periodical Payments) (Scotland) Bill
I, too, thank the clerks and members of the Economy, Energy and Fair Work Committee for their excellent work on the bill. Speaking on the bill, I feel something of an interloper, given the substantial work and the very difficult subject matter that the committee has been deali...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
01 May 2018
Civil Litigation (Expenses and Group Proceedings) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Many members may be wondering whether, after Thursday’s lengthy and detailed stage 3 debate on amendments, there is anything left to say about the Civil Litigation (Expenses and Group Proceedings) (Scotland) Bill. However, I assure members that I have plenty left to say and I ...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
24 Sep 2020
Protection of Workers (Retail and Age-restricted Goods and Services) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is a useful intervention. Unfortunately, I am a solitary member and this is a member’s bill. There is a case for looking at the protection that all public-facing workers could and should enjoy, but, critically, retail workers are legally duty-bound to uphold the law, and ...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
20 Jan 2026
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill
I reiterate my thanks to the Minister for Higher and Further Education for the way that he has approached the bill, which has been very useful. There has been clear engagement, and I can see some differences between the bill that we have in front of us and the one that he firs...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
06 Jun 2018
Historical Sexual Offences (Pardons and Disregards) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Stage 3 debates can be slightly odd and—dare I say it?—disjointed. For those who have been involved in lodging and debating amendments, such debates can be hugely important and engaging. For everyone else in the chamber, they can be slightly bamboozling. Members watch their co...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Jun 2019
Management of Offenders (Scotland) Bill
Why, thank you, Presiding Officer. This has been something of a marathon. I acknowledge the bill team, which is sitting at the back of the chamber; it has been through quite a long process, but that has been necessary, given the circumstances. I will begin my concluding rema...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
19 Aug 2020
Solicitors in the Supreme Courts of Scotland (Amendment) Bill: Preliminary Stage
I begin by thanking my colleagues. It has been a real pleasure to work on a private bill—indeed, it has been interesting, given that it is different from our usual work. I also thank the convener, Christine Grahame, for moving the motion and explaining the history of the socie...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
19 Jan 2021
Protection of Workers (Retail and Age-restricted Goods and Services) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I will start the debate with not my own words, but those aimed at Jackie McKenzie, a petrol station worker who simply asked someone to wear a mask. For doing so, she was threatened with the following words: “I’d get a test if I were you. I’ve got Covid.” Sadly, her experienc...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
17 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill
If one thing is clear, it is that the whole Parliament is united in—frankly, almost nauseating—tribute to Liam McArthur. However, the tribute is deserved. On a very personal level, and thinking back to our most recent conversation about the bill, I just wish that disagreeing w...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
09 Nov 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
I hold my humour in great regard, but even I do not think that many of my jokes bear telling twice, especially in Parliament. I will see how I go. I thank Gillian Martin. It is worth noting that the bill is the first member’s bill in this session, and she has done an excellen...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Sep 2018
Programme for Government 2018-19
Starting back after recess is always a useful point at which to take stock of the year just gone and to compare last year’s programme for government with what was actually passed by this Parliament. This time last year, the spin was ferocious. “Bold and ambitious” was the man...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
13 Nov 2018
Age of Criminal Responsibility (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
As someone who does not sit on the Equalities and Human Rights Committee, I thank the clerks and members of the committee for the excellent work that they have done on their stage 1 report. I acknowledge the work of the independent advisory group on the minimum age of criminal...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
05 Feb 2019
Vulnerable Witnesses (Criminal Evidence) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
This is a useful and important debate, in which we can come together in agreement about how we can modernise and improve our justice system, to make it more effective and more humane. I, too, thank the Justice Committee clerks and my fellow committee members. I also thank the...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
09 May 2019
Vulnerable Witnesses (Criminal Evidence) (Scotland) Bill
One of the advantages of opening and closing a debate for your party is that you get to say the things in your closing speech that you ran out of time to say or forgot to say in your opening speech. I congratulate Mr Yousaf: of all the reasons not to be present in the chamber,...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
24 Sep 2020
Protection of Workers (Retail and Age-restricted Goods and Services) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I know that those retail workers will be heartened to know that we take the issues that they face daily seriously. Before I go much further I would like to restate my thanks to the clerks in the non-Government bills unit. It is a special feature of the Scottish Parliament t...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
24 Mar 2026
Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The challenge in summing up a stage 3 debate for my own member’s bill is to prevent that from becoming akin to a gushing Oscar acceptance speech. I will therefore try to marshal my thank yous and to make some points. I begin not just by thanking members for their contributions...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
13 May 2020
Protection of Workers (Retail and Age-restricted Goods and Services) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I might bring in Kenny Htet-Khin and Andrew Mylne on the full technical details of that. As a preamble, there is a balance to be struck in introducing any bill, and particularly a member’s bill, as the available resources are limited. When Hugh Henry attempted to bring in leg...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
03 Dec 2020
Solicitors in the Supreme Courts of Scotland (Amendment) Bill: Final Stage
I, too, would like to thank my colleagues for their work on the bill to this stage, and I add my thanks to the clerks. Briefly, I will depart very slightly from my script. The work that is carried out on private bills is incredibly important and is an important duty that we ha...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
11 Mar 2021
Redress for Survivors (Historical Child Abuse in Care) (Scotland) Bill
In summing up the debate, we can all start from the position that was well outlined by the cabinet secretary, Jamie Greene, Iain Gray, Johann Lamont and others, which is that the bill is motivated and driven by a profound sense of the need for justice, and by an extreme emotio...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
18 Nov 2025
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will be speaking to three sets of amendments in this group. Amendments 260, 282 and 286 are in Michael Marra’s name, amendments 18 and 19 are in my name, as are amendments 271, 272, 14 and 15. I should say at this point that I have spoken to more amendments in my colleagues’...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
22 Jan 2026
Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I am delighted that we have such a packed chamber this afternoon to debate this important topic. I emphasise that it is important for many of the reasons that the minister just set out.Just as the minister expressed his thanks in his speech, I wou...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
26 Apr 2018
Civil Litigation (Expenses and Group Proceedings) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I will speak to amendments 1 to 4 in my name and against Margaret Mitchell’s amendment 2A. I apologise in advance, Presiding Officer, as these are complex amendments and it may take some time to rehearse the arguments and issues. I also declare an interest, as a proud trade u...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
19 Jan 2021
Protection of Workers (Retail and Age-restricted Goods and Services) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I will carry on with a few more thank yous. First, I thank every member who has spoken in the debate. The process has been consensual and the debate has been interesting, if brief. I thank my office team: Alan Irvine, Allana Hoggard and Michael Adamson. I also thank Stuart To...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
16 Mar 2023
Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I feel the need to begin by pointing out to Jeremy Balfour that it was Conservative ministers in the 1990s who introduced automatic early release. We need to look at how that works, and we need sentencing that is clear. However, if we are to raise the issue, we need at least a...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
07 May 2019
Age of Criminal Responsibility (Scotland) Bill
When you make that comment, Presiding Officer, I always feel like saying that those members who are not here are about to miss out. I will give it a good go. I will begin by highlighting the words of Ruth Maguire, who was right to point out that we must be mindful of the bene...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
09 May 2019
Vulnerable Witnesses (Criminal Evidence) (Scotland) Bill
I, too, am pleased to support the bill. It is a good bill—it is a good start. As we mark the 20 years of the Parliament, it is important to think about what has been done under the devolved settlement. We must remember that, until devolution, judges were appointed by ministe...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
16 Jan 2020
Disclosure (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I would like to begin as other members have, by thanking the clerks. We have had a thorough debate. Our stage 1 evidence was also thorough, and that is possible only because of the hard work and diligence of our clerks. I also thank my fellow committee members. As Gail Ross ...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Committee
13 May 2020
Protection of Workers (Retail and Age-restricted Goods and Services) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you very much for that introduction. I thank the committee for its diligent work in examining my bill and for resuming its work in doing so. Parliamentary time is at an absolute premium, given that we are limited to online sessions, so I am truly grateful that the commit...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
12 Nov 2025
Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Yes. There was discussion from both directions, to be candid. The Government had considered whether there were ways for it to incorporate the provisions in my bill within other legislation. On many of the points that have been asked about—especially with regard to Willie Renn...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
24 Mar 2026
Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I feel strongly that it is a basic human response that, when a child is in distress, hurt or injured, we want to help and protect them. That is one of the most fundamental human reactions. For a parent, that becomes amplified. When we see that our child is hurt, a knot forms i...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
29 Jan 2026
Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
::I almost do not know how to respond to the overwhelming and universal compliments that I have received this afternoon. I cannot claim not to occasionally use a theatrical flourish in the Parliament, but I try to approach my work in a collegiate way, to deal with things matte...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
29 Jan 2026
Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
::It is a huge privilege to move the motion in my name, which seeks the Parliament’s support for the purposes and general principles of my bill. I begin by thanking the Education, Children and Young People Committee for its diligent and detailed report. The insights that it ha...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
23 May 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
This debate is fundamentally about child safety. On a day such as this, it is difficult not to think about the tragic events in Manchester last night. One of the most difficult things that we can do as parents is to step back and give our child the space that it needs to explo...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
08 Nov 2018
Prescription (Scotland) Bill
Prescription might be a technical area of law, but it undoubtedly has very direct and real human consequences. It is right that we reform the law not only to protect people from the unreasonable pursuit of debt, but to protect some of the most vulnerable people who are in the ...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
07 Feb 2019
Management of Offenders (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I thank the clerks and my fellow committee members. It is always important to do that, but particularly in these circumstances. The committee treated a difficult set of circumstances appropriately, by delaying their report and taking further evidence; that was important. I pay...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
13 Jun 2019
Restricted Roads (20 mph Speed Limit) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I thank Mark Ruskell for introducing the bill and for doing the hard and diligent work that has gone into it. I know that it is no mean feat to introduce a member’s bill, as I am attempting to do the same thing. It is undoubtedly a worthy and important issue, but, unfortunatel...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
06 Feb 2024
Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I was coming to that very point. Although I think that a threshold that includes all those who are undergoing mental health treatment would be far too low, and too broad an approach—it would, for example, include me, as someone who is undergoing on-going mental health treatmen...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
13 May 2025
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It is a great privilege to follow Edward Mountain’s speech. I address my first remarks to my constituents. This is a debate unlike any other. It is a free vote, but given the importance of the debate, I say to my constituents that I take my responsibilities very seriously. My...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
04 Mar 2026
Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
:Amendments 17, 27, and 29 to 31 relate to regulations regarding commencement. It is fair to say that, with any member’s bill, a member will always want their bill to be enacted as quickly as possible and the Government will always want time to get its affairs in order, which ...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
01 May 2018
Civil Litigation (Expenses and Group Proceedings) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The debate has continued the theme that has proceeded with the bill. There has been engaged discussion about very technical and potentially dry items. I thank Mary Fee and other members for acknowledging the broad sweep of the committee’s work. The committee has done an excel...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
27 Jun 2018
Prescription (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
In the light of the announced reshuffle of Government ministers, I begin by registering my thanks to Michael Matheson and Annabelle Ewing. Over the time that I have spent shadowing the justice brief, we have had some notable disagreements—on police governance, the British Tran...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
07 Feb 2019
Management of Offenders (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
John Finnie makes an excellent point. That is one of the things that needs still to be looked at. The complexity of relationships is a point to consider. The member also made a good point in his intervention on Jeremy Balfour: we need to question whether use of private sector ...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
19 Mar 2019
Damages (Investment Returns and Periodical Payments) (Scotland) Bill
I will try hard not to repeat the arguments I have already laid out and will touch on some of the points that have been usefully made in the debate. John Mason set out a good analysis at the beginning of his remarks, asking what we want to achieve. There are two approaches—tr...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
07 May 2019
Age of Criminal Responsibility (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The bill is important in lifting children out of the scope of the criminal law, as is right and proper. However, as we do so, we must consider carefully the way in which the powers—and, indeed, the responsibilities—that the bill sets out will be exercised, particularly by the ...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
07 May 2019
Age of Criminal Responsibility (Scotland) Bill
In some ways, what Oliver Mundell said at the beginning of his remarks is right; this is a moment when, having dispatched the amendments, much of the debate has already happened. However, we got to this point only through a great deal of collective effort, which I would like ...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
11 Mar 2020
Disclosure (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Mr Cole-Hamilton began by raising the question of his motives. I do not question those for a moment. Mr Cole-Hamilton’s commitment to child protection and children’s issues is beyond question. He should not be questioned or criticised for his attempt to shift the boundaries of...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
11 Mar 2021
Redress for Survivors (Historical Child Abuse in Care) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I associate myself with many of the things that Jamie Greene said. The bill is inherently complex and the subject matter has been difficult for many of us to deal with, but it is hugely important. It has been remarkable that we have had robust and thorough examination and, ind...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
17 Mar 2022
Subsidy Control Bill
I apologise for joining the meeting late. I have been having some network issues at home, hence the cable that members can see running over my left shoulder. Indeed, I will give the short version of my speech in case I get cut off. I agree with Jamie Halcro Johnston that this...
Daniel Johnson Lab Chamber
21 Dec 2022
Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I thank the members who have spoken so far. It has been a very thoughtful section of debate. We are, ultimately, talking about matters of people’s identities and how they live their lives. When it comes to those matters, nuance and context are important. I made those points a...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
09 May 2024
Data Protection and Digital Information Bill
I begin with a moment of levity: if Murdo Fraser is concerned about nuisance text messages, maybe he should just unsubscribe from the Conservative group WhatsApp group. I am grateful for the work that the committee has done. This is a technical but important piece of legislat...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
06 Jun 2024
Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I thank the Government for lodging the amendments that the minister has just outlined, which broadly cover the area of clarifying the process. I think those amendments improve the bill and the clarity of the process and I thank the Government for that. However, what we heard ...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
01 Apr 2025
Learning Disability, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill
I thank those members who signed my motion to enable the debate to happen. It is a very important debate, because it is difficult to overstate the level of frustration and anger that exists among the various learning disability and neurodiverse communities. I speak today not a...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Sep 2025
Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Two points were made in the debate that united everyone in the chamber, the first of which was the welcome of the new minister. At times, it felt like the front step of the Caledonian hotel, because so many welcomes were issued, although I think that the minister will need to ...
Daniel Johnson Lab Committee
11 Nov 2025
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
It is useful to follow Bob Doris. My amendments fall, like his, in multiple parts of the bill, so I ask for the committee’s forbearance. This group of amendments is very important. It is entitled “Assessments of the terminally ill adult”, and those are at the heart of what th...
The Convener Lab Committee
03 Dec 2025
Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Welcome to our second panel, with whom we will continue our scrutiny of the Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill. I am pleased to welcome Dr Alisdair MacPherson, senior lecturer in commercial law, Law Society of Scotland; Dr Hamish Patrick, partner and head of financial sector, She...
The Convener (Daniel Johnson) Lab Committee
10 Dec 2025
Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning, and welcome to the 35th meeting in 2025 of the Economy and Fair Work Committee. Today, we will hold our third evidence session on the Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill. We have apologies from Lorna Slater, and Sarah Boyack may or may not make an appearance as she is...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Committee
12 Nov 2025
Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I, too, recently visited Donaldson’s, which is a really fascinating place and does excellent work. I will first thank the committee; I know that you are very busy and looking at multiple pieces of legislation, so I really thank everyone for taking time to look at my bill. I a...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Mar 2026
Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Thank you, Presiding Officer. It is with a great deal of trepidation that I rise to speak to and move the first amendment.I begin by paying tribute to Liam McArthur for the way in which he has stewarded the bill through the Parliament. It is not an easy topic, but it is one th...
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Meeting of the Parliament 18 December 2018

18 Dec 2018 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Damages (Investment Returns and Periodical Repayments) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Johnson, Daniel Lab Edinburgh Southern Watch on SPTV

I, too, thank the clerks and members of the Economy, Energy and Fair Work Committee for their excellent work at stage 1 of the Damages (Investment Returns and Periodical Payments) (Scotland) Bill. I acknowledge the many organisations and individuals who participated in the consultation process.

Scottish Labour welcomes the introduction of the bill. The bill seeks to calculate personal awards of damages through the injury discount rate in a way that is

“clear, certain, fair, regular, transparent and credible”.

Ultimately, the bill is about providing security to those who have been injured through the actions of others, often leaving them with life-altering conditions and with substantial life decisions to make.

As members have noted, although this is a technical bill, at its heart is something fundamental and understandable. It is about protecting vulnerable people and making sure that we have in place a system that is fair and equitable, so that they can make the decisions that they need to make in very difficult circumstances. Importantly, it is also about finding the right balance so that our public bodies, in particular the NHS, do not incur unreasonable costs and liabilities. There is also the important point that undercompensating can lead to many such bodies having large bills. If we undercompensate—if we give people too little—often it is the NHS that ultimately picks up the bill.

Although Labour agrees with the broad principles that are outlined in the stage 1 report, we recognise that there are parts of the proposed legislation that need to be tested robustly as the bill proceeds through stages 2 and 3. I will outline two or three such areas in my speech. The first area that requires scrutiny is the make-up of the notional portfolio, which we have already heard about. Concerns have been raised that it is too cautious and too focused on fixed assets at the expense of equities, even though equities would deliver a higher rate of return.

However, we need to strike a cautious note, in particular around the notion of the hypothetical investor. Although it is reasonable to assume that vulnerable people will invest, it is not reasonable to assume that they will become investment experts, or that they should assume risk or that they require to be speculators. It is not reasonable that they have to put their damages award under a metaphorical mattress, but nor should we expect them to bet on the stock market and to base their future on such speculation.

The notional portfolio would need be updated regularly to keep up with market changes, but it is unclear whether the Scottish Government or the UK Government Actuary’s Department would be responsible for doing that. Likewise, it is unclear whether the series of adjustments that are set out in the bill would be adequate to cover the cost of inflation, tax and investment advice or underperformance. We must test all those aspects as the bill proceeds.

Periodical payment orders would allow courts to make awards for future economic loss and for payments to be made in a periodic manner, thereby increasing the security of such payments. We welcome that provision, which can mitigate against some of the uncertainty that is associated with lump sums. For vulnerable individuals in particular, it can provide welcome certainty. However, more weight should be given to a pursuer’s views when a court is asked to decide on a PPO and members have already raised that point. Ultimately, the bill should seek to empower those who seek compensation, instead of taking away any more of their control.

On the 30-year period, despite evidence that suggests that the average life expectancy following a serious personal injury claim with damages of more than £250,000 is 46 years, the bill creates an assumption that the hypothetical investor will hold their assets for a 30-year period. In her evidence, the minister stated:

“There is no authority on which to base that figure; it was chosen merely as a useful duration that was neither too short nor too long.”—[Official Report, Economy, Energy and Fair Work Committee, 6 November 2018; c 8.]

It is important that the period is examined and carefully considered so that the bill provides for a payment period that is realistic.

Labour welcomes the bill and supports its aim of creating a

“fair, ... transparent and credible”

personal injury discount rate. Although it represents progress, the bill is far from perfect and the proposed legislation must be tested robustly and scrutinised closely as it moves forward. Changes in the areas that I have mentioned will help strengthen the bill to provide greater security to those people who have been injured through wrongful action, while also protecting public bodies from unreasonable costs and liabilities. The bill will ensure that we have in place a just system that is fair and equitable. I look forward to following the bill’s progress through stages 2 and 3.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-15169, in the name of Ash Denham, on the Damages (Investment Returns and Periodical Payments) (Scotland) ...
The Minister for Community Safety (Ash Denham) SNP
I am very pleased to be here to open the debate on the general principles of the Damages (Investment Returns and Periodical Payments) (Scotland) Bill. I than...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
I accept the minister’s point, in broad terms. Will she give some detail about the out-of-cycle review? In a five-year period, assumptions around investments...
Ash Denham SNP
Daniel Johnson makes a good point. The general point is that the rate must meet the needs of the hypothetical investor and ensure that they get the right amo...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
The committee had concerns about the fact that the court could impose on a pursuer who, for various reasons, might not want a continuing relationship with th...
Ash Denham SNP
We have taken account of that. We recognise that there are many reasons why a PPO might not be suitable for a pursuer or a defender, but we think that the co...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Gordon Lindhurst to speak on behalf of the Economy, Energy and Fair Work Committee for up to eight minutes. 15:48
Gordon Lindhurst (Lothian) (Con) Con
I trust that all members present have read our stage 1 report, which is a classic of the genre. Neil Findlay is not present on this occasion to ask me a ques...
Dean Lockhart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I thank those who provided submissions on the bill and the witnesses who attended the three Economy, Energy and Fair Work Committee sessions that were dedica...
Daniel Johnson Lab
I thank the member for giving way. I accept some of what he is saying, but does he not accept that the language being used—the talk of a portfolio of balance...
Dean Lockhart Con
The member makes a fair point. That is why the further adjustments that we will come to—such as the 0.5 per cent deduction to pay for professional advice in ...
John Mason SNP
Will the member accept that it is inevitable that some people will be undercompensated and some will be overcompensated? It is not possible to exactly compen...
Dean Lockhart Con
That is a fair point to make, although the vast majority of the evidence sided with the probability that overcompensation would be the likely result of these...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Dean Lockhart Con
I am literally about to wrap up. The Damages (Investment Returns and Periodical Payments) (Scotland) Bill is technical, but it is vitally important for thos...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
I, too, thank the clerks and members of the Economy, Energy and Fair Work Committee for their excellent work at stage 1 of the Damages (Investment Returns an...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
We move to the open part of the debate. Members have a generous four minutes for speeches. 16:09
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
The bill has been more interesting than I think that some committee members might have anticipated. The bill may affect a relatively small number of people, ...
Maurice Corry (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I, along with my colleagues, welcome this stage 1 debate on the bill. Suffering personal injury is never expected. No one ever wants to have to claim compens...
Angela Constance (Almond Valley) (SNP) SNP
Although the number of people who are directly affected by the bill is small, the bill is nonetheless crucial. We should always remember whose interests are ...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
As a member of the Economy, Energy and Fair Work Committee, which scrutinised the bill, I am grateful to have the opportunity to speak in the debate. Four mi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I can give you five minutes.
Jackie Baillie Lab
Oh, my goodness! I cannot guarantee that my arguments will be any more elegant. Let me cut to the chase and focus on two areas: the discount rate and periodi...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I have not been involved with the bill thus far, but I want to develop a number of its aspects; Jackie Baillie has touched on them already. The committee’s ...
John Mason SNP
Will the member give way?
Stewart Stevenson SNP
I will give way to somebody who knows more than I do about that matter.
John Mason SNP
The committee received evidence—I do not know whether the member would agree with it—that perhaps the investment cost would be higher at the beginning and lo...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
I am absolutely sure that the member is correct, but that goes to the heart of how the compensation is provided: whether it is paid in a lump sum up front or...
Jackie Baillie Lab
I will helpfully supply Stewart Stevenson with the discount rate that he was looking for. The Association of Personal Injury Lawyers supplied us with it: it ...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
That is broadly what I would have expected, so I am obliged to the member for that. Investors come in all shapes and forms. Over the years, with my wife, I ...