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Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
23 May 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am pleased to have the opportunity to open today’s debate on the general principles of the Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill. The measures follow the devolution of the relevant competence, and it is particularly heartening to bring legislative proposals to the c...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I want to mention a couple of things around that. The bill is in keeping with the powers that are devolved to the Scottish Parliament. You are absolutely correct that, in a contract between a local authority and a bus company, there will be a stipulation that a bus that is to ...
Gillian Martin SNP Chamber
23 May 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Yes, I know. Now, it is unthinkable that people would get into the front seat of a car and not automatically put their seat belt on. I remember seat belts coming in for seats in the back. There was a period of time when people had to remind their kids to put their seat belts ...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I cannot talk about every local authority and what it is doing, but—if you forgive me—I can talk about what was done in Aberdeenshire to get schoolchildren to wear the seat belts when the council made the decision to introduce them. There was a programme of education: the loca...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
On the issue of non-compliance, in the case of a contract between a local authority and a bus company that says that the buses must have seat belts, it will all depend on how the local authority monitors the situation. For example, some authorities will carry out inspections. ...
Gillian Martin SNP Chamber
09 Nov 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
The member will get no argument from me on that. I agree. Bus companies that do not have seat belts in place and are tendering for contracts for school journeys need to take a look at themselves and consider their moral responsibility. I was about to mention Daniel Johnson, b...
Gillian Martin SNP Chamber
09 Nov 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I, too, welcome the sentiments behind Neil Bibby’s amendments and I thank him and others in his party—in particular, Rhoda Grant—for their work in helping to shape the bill. As the transport minister says, the Scottish Government appears willing to accept the legal duties tha...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
28 Sep 2016
Proposed Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
Yes. The laws around the wearing of seat belts are still reserved. You will know that it is the law that over-14s must wear a seat belt where one is provided. Beyond that, we cannot legislate. We are purely seeking that it must be stipulated that buses that are contracted to l...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP Committee
28 Sep 2016
Proposed Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
Good morning, everyone. I thank the committee for this opportunity to set out my proposal to legislate for the inclusion of seat belts in all dedicated school transport. It is my firm belief that the safety of our children and young people is a responsibility that we all share...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
28 Sep 2016
Proposed Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
As Brendan Rooney has pointed out, 17 local authorities already require school buses to have seat belts, so we looked to the practice of schools and bus companies in those areas. At the moment, practice varies across local authorities. In some cases there are booster seats, an...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Yes, I am, and I will tell you why. You are correct that there has been a low level of injuries involving children on buses—I think that, in the past five years, there have been around 42. However, we should bear in mind that half of the local authorities already have seat bel...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
There is an absolute duty of care for local authorities to ensure the safety of children when they are in their schools, and when they are on the route to school. There is a duty of care covering an awful lot of safety aspects of a child’s experience at school—not just the wea...
Gillian Martin SNP Chamber
23 May 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It has been an interesting debate and I think that we can all agree that the provision of seat belts on school transport is necessary and desirable. We all want to do the best thing for Scotland’s young people and keep them safe on their way to school. As a relatively new MSP...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP Committee
28 Jun 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The committee’s stage 1 report recommended that “no distinction should be made between travel on dedicated home to school transport and that on a school excursion” and stated that the committee would welcome an amendment to the bill to the effect that the duty to ensure the ...
Gillian Martin SNP Chamber
09 Nov 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
The revised financial memorandum takes into account all the measures that were agreed at stage 2. Furthermore, the changes that the committee wanted to be implemented are quite evident in the revised financial memorandum. The legislation will cover taxis, minibuses, coaches...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you for reminding me about the parent-pupil charter, which is something that Aberdeenshire Council has also done. A lot of schools have a parent-pupil charter on a lot of behavioural issues in general. Having one on the wearing of seat belts is a way to promote it. That ...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I know that that issue has been raised with the committee. I guess that that shows the power of committees, and I want to thank the committee for highlighting an issue that I should say we have looked at. Given that the provision of seat belts on buses that are used for sch...
Gillian Martin SNP Chamber
09 Nov 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
This has been an interesting debate, as debates in the Parliament always are, but it does not often happen that a debate is so hugely consensual and constructive. I thank everyone who spoke in it; this has been a very special afternoon for me. Before I talk about some of the ...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Nov 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
It has been a privilege to bring the bill before Parliament and to progress this important issue to stage 3 proceedings. I thank all those who have contributed in different ways to the legislative scrutiny, particularly members of the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee f...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I might defer to Anne Cairns on some of the legal points. It is not against the law not to wear seat belts on buses. It is not a legal obligation to do so—such laws do not exist as regards three to 14-year-olds wearing them. There are certain stipulations, however. For exampl...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It comes down to what I have talked about a couple of times previously—flexibility and not dictating to local authorities the stipulations that should be put in place. We say that dedicated school transport should have seat belts on it; that is the narrowness of the bill. Dur...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
28 Sep 2016
Proposed Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
As I said, we have been consulting, but we also have a working group, which bus operators have been part of. They have been very positive about the proposals. Most buses already have seat belts on them, so we are really talking about the older ones, because buses have had to b...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
As the committee will know, 18 local authorities have already taken these measures voluntarily in the contracts for their dedicated school transport and are ensuring that that transport has seat belts. I am convinced that those authorities have done the right thing, and I woul...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
A working group has been in place since 2014, when it was first mooted that powers to put in place such measures might be devolved to the Scottish Parliament. Last year, a public consultation was carried out from March to June. There has been broad support from all quarters fo...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It comes down to the reserved and devolved powers. There is no law that says that three to 14-year-olds have to wear the seat belts. However, in the local authorities that have already voluntarily stipulated that the buses must have seat belts, we have found that there is abso...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The dates were arrived at in consultation between the working group and COSLA, local authorities and bus companies. Richard Lyle alluded to one of the reasons why there is a difference between the two dates. In our assessment of the scale of the task of providing seat belts on...
Gillian Martin SNP Chamber
23 May 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I was going to say that in considering amending the bill to include school trips, it is important that I explore the issues, including the ones that Liz Smith has mentioned. Enforcement has a bearing on the bill as it stands and I would like to get feedback from teachers and t...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP Chamber
09 Nov 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The legislative measures in the bill have been arrived at using a partnership approach. The Scottish Government and I have consulted and listened. I am sure that, to all those members who are in the chamber, the term “school transport” appears to be a straightforward phrase th...
Gillian Martin SNP Chamber
09 Nov 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I am happy to intervene. Mr Mountain asked about the costs, but I am unable to give an answer on that. What I have to clarify, though, is his statement that only five councils do not have contracts for school transport with seat belts, because that is not the case. We are talk...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
28 Sep 2016
Proposed Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
Absolutely. I met Mr Beaty a couple of weeks ago to discuss the issue. I pay tribute to him, because his local authority, Aberdeenshire Council, already requires seat belts on all dedicated school transport. It has also taken voluntary measures, such as school bus signage, lar...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
28 Sep 2016
Proposed Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
No. The proposed legislation will be a very simple mechanism for local authorities to stipulate that buses that are used for dedicated school transport must have seat belts. That is the premise on which we put the consultation out and on which the working group is still workin...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We did not want to dictate to local authorities what they should do, other than that they should have seat belts on school buses. There needs to be flexibility in how they do that. I know that the council that you mentioned—I think that it is North Ayrshire Council—has stipula...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am sure that the committee will have heard the CPT’s answers on that. The issue is about primary school-age children, and most primary schools use minibuses. If minibuses have been contracted in by a local authority that is used to transporting primary-age kids, they will ha...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
There are two parts to that. First, there is how I am personally going to promote the wearing of seat belts, as I am the member in charge of the bill. Secondly, there is what the Scottish Government will do prior to implementation. In introducing my member’s bill, I am trying...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
No, we will not. As you have just said, we want to give local authorities the flexibility to decide what school transport is right for them. We are simply stipulating that all buses that are dedicated school transport should have seat belts on them, whether they are double-dec...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Your approach does not surprise me, because you are an accountant by trade. I will give you the headlines on the figure, but Brendan Rooney will provide more detail on how it was worked out. We cannot simply divide £8.9 million by 110 to get a figure for each bus, because the...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I might bring in Brendan Rooney again to talk about the process. John Finnie asked whether we are rewarding failure, but we are doing the opposite of that. That is why we are giving money to the local authorities that have voluntarily introduced seat belts since 2014, which wa...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
No, it is not. Those costs will be borne by the Scottish Government. Brendan Rooney will be involved with providing the guidance, so perhaps he can give us some more detail. The guidance costs will be met from the safety budget and Road Safety Scotland—part of Transport Scotla...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP Committee
10 May 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The Welsh bill went much wider than the bill that I have introduced. There were quite a lot of recommendations in that bill about things other than seat belts: it also covered closed-circuit television and bus monitors. The compelling thing was that the type and size of vehicl...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
10 May 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Yes, notification. Sorry—I forgot the word just for a second. Nothing came back from the European Commission when the notification was put in. We considered the Welsh aspect, in that there was a precedent for seat belts. However, we were not going down the route of implementin...
Gillian Martin SNP Chamber
23 May 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
If Mr Rumbles had read the whole article, which I am sure he did, he would know that I received a letter from a supportive coach company that provides a lot of dedicated school transport in Aberdeenshire, which he also represents. The company echoed my concern about Mr Rumbles...
Gillian Martin SNP Chamber
23 May 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is great, because I really do not have much else to say. It comes across loud and clear that seat belts help to protect children, and many people are surprised that there are not laws on this already. Their opinions were reflected in the views of the general public on th...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
28 Jun 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I thank Rhoda Grant for lodging amendments 5 and 6. Ensuring that people actually wear fitted seat belts has been a crucial concern not just for the committee but for us all as we have moved forward with the bill, and I welcome the useful ideas that Ms Grant has set out in rel...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
28 Jun 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Councils told us that they have agreed contracts up to 2021. I assume that some of those contracts are with bus companies that do not have seat belts fitted, so that probably would be the case. However, given what the minister said, we are willing to ask councils about that sp...
Gillian Martin SNP Chamber
09 Nov 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
I had the privilege of meeting Ron Beaty just before stage 1 of the bill, and I am very grateful that I had the chance to meet Mr Beaty, because unfortunately he is no longer with us. He came along to wish me luck. I thought that he was going to give me a hard time for not doi...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I think that it is highly important. One of the reasons why I wanted to introduce the bill was to increase awareness among young people of the importance of wearing a seat belt. If young people are not involved in the process of education about that, the buy-in will not happen...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
One of the first questions was about some of the things that came out in the consultation and through the working group. It was decided early on that we would not—we could not—stipulate what types of seat belt should be available, for many reasons. You have alluded to one reas...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
28 Sep 2016
Proposed Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
You are right, Mr Mason. Dedicated school bus transport is the remit of the proposed bill.
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
28 Sep 2016
Proposed Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
That is still being worked on, but the costs will be borne by the companies that bid for contracts. That was how it was done in Wales.
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
28 Sep 2016
Proposed Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
The contracts tend to be for a five-year period. This proposal has been in the wind for quite a while. We knew that the powers were coming to Scotland, so it is not as if the bus companies have been unaware of the proposal. We have consulted them. The onus will be on the bus c...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
28 Sep 2016
Proposed Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
I will ask Brendan Rooney to answer that, because it is a niche question that probably requires his expertise.
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
28 Sep 2016
Proposed Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
No. We are fairly confident in what we have done. We had 76 respondents from a wide range of groups, and the working group is still active, so there is an opportunity for anything else that comes up to be taken into account. As you will know, the consultation was published ...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
28 Sep 2016
Proposed Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
No. We have consulted local authorities, COSLA and the Scottish Local Government Partnership, school groups, parent groups, bus companies and road safety groups. We feel that the consultation has been quite comprehensive.
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Yes, very much so. In fact, the Confederation of Passenger Transport, which appeared before the committee a couple of weeks ago, has been hugely helpful and supportive and is fully behind the bill. It has been a great source of advice to me and to the working group in general.
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Local authorities and the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities have been involved in the working group. I know that some local authorities have also made submissions to the committee. All the evidence coming from the working group has led us to the conclusion that there ha...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I would be happy to.
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The type of belt that should be fitted is also still a reserved issue.
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Brendan Rooney is absolutely right in saying that none of this is coming out of the blue for the bus industry or for local authorities. The possibility of doing what we are doing was mooted in 2014, when the powers were in place, and it has been prudent of some local authoriti...
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I ask Anne Cairns to give you more detail on that.
Gillian Martin SNP Committee
26 Apr 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Anything to do with the safety of a bus—or, indeed, transport in general—comes under—Interruption. I am trying to remember the abbreviation. Is it DVL or something?
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Meeting of the Parliament 23 May 2017

23 May 2017 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Martin, Gillian SNP Aberdeenshire East Watch on SPTV

I am pleased to have the opportunity to open today’s debate on the general principles of the Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill. The measures follow the devolution of the relevant competence, and it is particularly heartening to bring legislative proposals to the chamber that take forward new powers that have been acquired for Scotland.

Every weekday morning around Scotland, parents and carers wave their children off to school. Rightly, they expect robust measures to be in place to keep those young people safe not just in the classroom but on the journey to and from school. Speaking about the safety of young people is particularly poignant on this terrible day and we might all find the debate quite difficult.

As a representative of a rural community, I am acutely aware of the distances that some pupils travel to school and of the importance that is given to such journeys. Additionally, as a parent, I know what it is to entrust my child’s safety to the care of others. The responsibility to keep young people safe is something that we all share—from teachers and education providers to those of us in elected positions who set the national legal and policy direction.

The bill that is before Parliament will make important strides in those endeavours. Seat belts can play a vital role in the event of a road traffic accident, as is borne out through a wealth of internationally recognised research. We also know that encouraging children to buckle up has the benefit of fostering productive and positive lifelong habits in relation to road safety.

It is welcome that much of local government shares those sentiments—18 councils already voluntarily stipulate the need for seat belts in all dedicated home-to-school transport contracts. However, I want the practice to become universal across every local authority in Scotland as a matter of law. My local authority, Aberdeenshire Council, was one of the first to insist on seat belts on all dedicated school transport in awarding contracts, and I want every parent to have the same peace of mind as I have. The powers to legislate for a stipulation in contracts for school transport have now arrived in this place, and many local authorities have been moving towards implementation in preparation for a new legal duty coming in.

Before I move on to key points from the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee’s report, I thank all those who contributed to the call for evidence and the witness sessions. I also thank all members of the seat belts on school transport working group and the Government ministers and officials who have advised and assisted me.

I welcome the committee’s support for the general principles of the bill and its constructive comments and recommendations. That support chimes with public feedback. A national consultation in 2016 showed that respondents overwhelmingly thought that such measures would contribute to road safety, and many questioned why a law had not been implemented sooner.

I turn to the detail of the measures. The bill will place a legal duty on local authorities, grant-aided school providers and independent school providers to ensure that vehicles that are used for dedicated school transport have seat belts fitted. That includes taxis, minibuses, coaches and buses. Some of those vehicle types are already covered by existing United Kingdom laws that require seat belts, so it is the larger coaches and buses in which changes will be required.

Members will be aware that, unlike some countries, Scotland has no bespoke model of vehicle that is used for dedicated school transport. A wide range of vehicles is used, especially in local authority provision, from double-decker buses that are designed for urban use to single-decker coaches that are associated with longer-distance travel.

Grant-aided and independent schools report that their dedicated school transport is already universally supplied with seat belts, so it is in local authority provision that the transition has to be made. Collaboration has been key to ensuring that the measures will be clear and workable. That is why the seat belts on school transport working group has been so important. The group was set up in 2014 as the Scotland Act 1998 (Modification of Schedule 5) Order 2015, which devolved power in this area, was being processed.

The group’s formation has allowed for extensive dialogue with stakeholders, experts and delivery organisations such as local government, the bus industry and parenting and education groups. The proposals that have been brought to Parliament have therefore been shaped and influenced by those whom they will affect, which will ensure that the bill’s contents are practical and fit for purpose.

It is important to put in place a considered and reasonable implementation timescale that does not put partners under undue pressure. In 2018, the legal duty will come into force for vehicles that transport primary school children, and in 2021 it will be introduced for vehicles that carry secondary school pupils. The lead-in time will help local authorities and bus operators to adapt to the change, and it will mean that no contract should have to be broken as a result. I am glad that the committee has endorsed that approach in its report.

An assertion that comes through strongly in the committee’s findings is that the measures should extend to vehicles that are used to take pupils on excursions during the school day, such as trips to the swimming pool, in addition to those that are used for home-to-school transport. I welcome the committee’s comments on that and the views that witnesses have expressed in recent committee evidence sessions.

The logic of such an extension is not hard to see, but the practical implications will require consideration. The two kinds of transport are distinct in terms of organisation and administration. One type is generally arranged through three to five-year council-wide contracts, while the vehicles that are used for school trips can be booked singly and ad hoc, and they are organised by individual schools.

However, school excursions are already covered by robust risk assessment guidance that stipulates that seat belts should be fitted in the vehicles. Initial discussions with our stakeholders have revealed that that guidance is rigidly adhered to. I have no objection in principle to putting that stipulation on a statutory footing, and I am working with the Scottish Government to gather views and see how that could work on the ground. Since hearing the committee’s views on that suggestion, I have made contact with teaching unions, local government and other stakeholders, and I will consider the matter closely ahead of stage 2.

One of the undeniable traits of school transport in Scotland is that there is no one-size-fits-all formula for delivery. There are approximately 2,500 schools in the country, which are spread across a range of diverse geographies in our nation’s local authorities. We are talking about everything from pupils being driven to school on a double-decker bus in a bustling urban centre to pupils in remote areas, such as my constituency in Aberdeenshire, travelling relatively long distances in coaches on country roads.

Any attempt at a top-down diktat on how the legislation should work will hamper flexibility and restrict councils’ ability to implement the type of school transport that works best for them and their school pupils. It is therefore welcome that the committee recognises and agrees with the need to maintain that flexibility. I firmly believe that individual local authorities should use the methods of implementation that suit them.

I am aware that methods such as using adult bus monitors or supervisors were considered during evidence sessions. Likewise, committee members highlighted how some local authorities stipulate a maximum age of vehicle in their contracts. The bill does not restrict school authorities’ flexibility on such matters. We will point out options in guidance, and we will also point to different areas of local authorities’ good practice. However, making any single measure a statutory requirement could hinder the legislation’s effectiveness and could ultimately be counterproductive.

The issue of flexibility brings me to the consideration of young people who have additional support needs and smaller children, whom a normal seat belt might not fit or be effective for. Those issues have been looked at in detail with stakeholders and the bill has been drafted to consciously allow such pupils to be catered for. The bill does not mandate a specific type of belt, and it leaves options open for school authorities to use adjustable straps, booster seats or lap belts for smaller children.

In practice, young people who have additional support needs are often transported in taxis or minibuses, in line with existing equalities and support for learning duties on school authorities, and the bill does not restrict that. I welcome the committee’s recognition of the benefits of that in its report.

I turn to an issue that has come through strongly in consultation with people and stakeholders, which is how we ensure that children wear the seat belts. The laws that cover the wearing of seats belts are reserved to Westminster, but the bill represents an opportunity to promote successful approaches and raise wider awareness among young people of the safety benefits of wearing seat belts.

That is why comprehensive guidance as well as publicity and educational materials will be created to accompany the new legal duty. We have had dialogue with parenting, education and youth group stakeholders, as well as Road Safety Scotland. We will ensure that young people are involved; I know that the committee supports that approach.

It is crucial that we take a positive approach to instilling safety messages and allowing young people to see the benefits of good habits. Correct behaviour is not unique to the school bus. There is the same need to promote good behaviour in the classroom and when representing the school in the community at lunch time, for example. Approaches are taken to ensure good pupil behaviour every day in schools across Scotland.

Stakeholders at the evidence sessions used the analogy of society’s changed views on smoking or wearing seat belts in cars. I whole-heartedly agree that habits change and practices become second nature. That does not happen overnight but, through consistent and concerted effort, we can achieve the desired outcome.

Let us not forget that, although Wales does not have devolved powers over the liability for wearing seat belts, it has successfully implemented similar measures on seat belts, and so will we.

Aberdeenshire Council has been proactive on school transport. That council and other local authorities can give many successful examples to draw from as we refine good practice nationally.

Stipulating an additional feature, such as seat belts, in a contract with private bus operators can lead to a cost increase. That happens regularly as contracts end and are renewed, such as when councils add new requirements for vehicles to have CCTV, to be of a certain standard or to follow new routes.

In helping with the new statutory duties that will fall on councils, the Scottish Government has worked with local government to forecast the cost implications, which are set out in the financial memorandum. The committee has commented on that exercise and the overall estimates—which cover a 14-year period from 2018—and we will look at what can be done to explain further the detail of those figures. I have asked the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities to provide a representative to give a fuller explanation of how the cost analysis was completed and I have written to the convener and the deputy convener of the committee to advise them of that, since COSLA could not attend the committee session that it was invited to.

I repeat my thanks to the committee for its support for the principles of the bill and the helpful recommendations that it has made.

I move,

That the Parliament agrees to the general principles of the Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill.

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Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I echo the sentiment that has been expressed in the chamber today: there can be no better subject matter for us to be discussing than the safety of children....
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Neil Bibby—up to seven minutes, please. 15:33
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
At the outset, I acknowledge the work of Gillian Martin in bringing the bill to the Parliament and I thank the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee for i...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Greene and Mr Bibby, for finishing well within time. We are already over time, so I ask for speeches of absolutely no more than five minutes. ...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
The starting point has to be that there was widespread support for the bill at committee because, I think, all of us saw it as a way of trying to improve saf...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome today’s stage 1 debate on the Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill and join my colleagues across the chamber in supporting the legislatio...
Gail Ross (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) SNP
Like many other members, when I heard that Gillian Martin was introducing a member’s bill to ensure that seat belts are fitted on dedicated school buses, my ...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
This debate is fundamentally about child safety. On a day such as this, it is difficult not to think about the tragic events in Manchester last night. One of...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
Sometimes we legislate to fix a problem; sometimes we legislate to prevent a problem; sometimes we legislate to reform or simplify; sometimes we legislate to...
Peter Chapman (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Just as it is impossible to be against apple pie and motherhood, it is impossible to be against the bill. It is a simple and focused bill that aims to legall...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
I can always hear you, Mr Chapman.
Peter Chapman Con
There you go—one should always project, I say. The most significant and obvious shortcoming is that the bill, in its current form, makes no provision for th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call John Finnie. I will possibly call Mike Rumbles: I put out a Rumbles alert. 16:09
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
I support the bill’s aims, which are laudable, and congratulate Gillian Martin on taking it this far. The Scottish Green Party will support its general princ...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
First, I congratulate Gillian Martin on introducing the bill. As we have heard, it has a single purpose: to introduce a legal requirement for seat belts to b...
Jamie Greene Con
Will the member give way?
Mike Rumbles LD
Of course.
Jamie Greene Con
I just want to clarify for the record that I am not questioning whether any Government money is spent on the bill—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am being told that the member is Finlay Carson, but it is Jamie Greene—there is a bit of a dispute up here. I must not get names wrong again, Mr Greene—I w...
Jamie Greene Con
It must be the beard, Presiding Officer—but mine is not grey. Members: Oh!
Jamie Greene Con
I have forgotten what I was going to say; I apologise for taking up the member’s time. I want to clarify that I was not questioning whether any money should ...
Mike Rumbles LD
Absolutely—I agree with that entirely. I am not questioning that there might be a need for some money if there are still buses that require seat belts, but I...
Gillian Martin SNP
If Mr Rumbles had read the whole article, which I am sure he did, he would know that I received a letter from a supportive coach company that provides a lot ...