Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 16 January 2014
16 Jan 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Town Centre Action Plan
As convener of the cross-party group on towns and town centres, I am very keen for the future of our town centres to be pushed up the political agenda. Accordingly, I welcome this afternoon’s debate.
I also join colleagues in welcoming the broad aims of the town centre action plan as well as the work of Malcolm Fraser and his external advisory group, which has informed so much of the Government’s thinking on town centres. Many of the ideas coming out of the review and the action plan, including mixed-use town centres, digital towns, community enterprise and regeneration are sound and have received broad support.
However, what I have learned from the Fraser review and my experience in the cross-party group is that there is no one-size-fits-all solution to town centre regeneration. For example, solutions for my home town of East Kilbride, which is a new town with a big retail-focused town centre, will be different from Hamilton down the road, which has adopted the business improvement district model. That point is crucial because as Business Improvement Districts Scotland, the Association of Town and City Management, Development Trusts Scotland and Scotland’s Towns Partnership will tell us, towns have to develop their own unique selling point to be resilient in an economy that is increasingly dominated by online sales and out-of-town retail.
I want to make three specific points about the action plan’s content. First, on business rates, Labour remains, despite claims to the contrary, committed to the uniform business rate and the small business bonus, although we believe that the latter could have been targeted in a smarter, sharper way. As Labour has argued for greater flexibility in rates to incentivise growth at the local level, I am very interested in the incentivisation proposals in the action plan. However, certain issues are coming up time and again, with town centre traders telling us not only that the valuations are out of kilter with the property market but that the process of appealing an assessor’s decision is time consuming, convoluted and sometimes just impenetrable for local firms.
Secondly, on town centre living, I want to bring Paisley to the chamber’s attention. In its study visit last year, the cross-party group visited a number of Renfrewshire towns and found Paisley to be interesting because the BID’s vision for the town is about not just retail but people living and socialising in the town centre. Although the town centre housing fund is welcome, it must be part of a wider regeneration strategy for our towns and we should also be clear that it is a drop in the ocean with regard to meeting housing needs in Scotland.
Finally, on the town centre first principle, which Gavin Brown referred to in his speech, I think that it is good but it would be helpful if Police Scotland, the Scottish Court Service and the Post Office Ltd also recognised it. However, I notice from parliamentary answers that no definition of what “town centre first” actually means has been agreed by the Scottish Government and COSLA.
The truest criticism of an otherwise welcome action plan is that many of the points that it contains will take time to implement and that is time that some businesses simply do not have. For example, although I expect the community empowerment bill to become very important to anyone who is interested in regenerating our town centres, the consultation period has not even closed yet.
I wish the minister well in putting this plan into practice, but will conclude simply by impressing upon him the urgency of putting in place measures to make Scotland’s towns more resilient and attractive, even in these testing times.
16:25
I also join colleagues in welcoming the broad aims of the town centre action plan as well as the work of Malcolm Fraser and his external advisory group, which has informed so much of the Government’s thinking on town centres. Many of the ideas coming out of the review and the action plan, including mixed-use town centres, digital towns, community enterprise and regeneration are sound and have received broad support.
However, what I have learned from the Fraser review and my experience in the cross-party group is that there is no one-size-fits-all solution to town centre regeneration. For example, solutions for my home town of East Kilbride, which is a new town with a big retail-focused town centre, will be different from Hamilton down the road, which has adopted the business improvement district model. That point is crucial because as Business Improvement Districts Scotland, the Association of Town and City Management, Development Trusts Scotland and Scotland’s Towns Partnership will tell us, towns have to develop their own unique selling point to be resilient in an economy that is increasingly dominated by online sales and out-of-town retail.
I want to make three specific points about the action plan’s content. First, on business rates, Labour remains, despite claims to the contrary, committed to the uniform business rate and the small business bonus, although we believe that the latter could have been targeted in a smarter, sharper way. As Labour has argued for greater flexibility in rates to incentivise growth at the local level, I am very interested in the incentivisation proposals in the action plan. However, certain issues are coming up time and again, with town centre traders telling us not only that the valuations are out of kilter with the property market but that the process of appealing an assessor’s decision is time consuming, convoluted and sometimes just impenetrable for local firms.
Secondly, on town centre living, I want to bring Paisley to the chamber’s attention. In its study visit last year, the cross-party group visited a number of Renfrewshire towns and found Paisley to be interesting because the BID’s vision for the town is about not just retail but people living and socialising in the town centre. Although the town centre housing fund is welcome, it must be part of a wider regeneration strategy for our towns and we should also be clear that it is a drop in the ocean with regard to meeting housing needs in Scotland.
Finally, on the town centre first principle, which Gavin Brown referred to in his speech, I think that it is good but it would be helpful if Police Scotland, the Scottish Court Service and the Post Office Ltd also recognised it. However, I notice from parliamentary answers that no definition of what “town centre first” actually means has been agreed by the Scottish Government and COSLA.
The truest criticism of an otherwise welcome action plan is that many of the points that it contains will take time to implement and that is time that some businesses simply do not have. For example, although I expect the community empowerment bill to become very important to anyone who is interested in regenerating our town centres, the consultation period has not even closed yet.
I wish the minister well in putting this plan into practice, but will conclude simply by impressing upon him the urgency of putting in place measures to make Scotland’s towns more resilient and attractive, even in these testing times.
16:25
In the same item of business
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-08769, in the name of Derek Mackay, on the town centre action plan. The minister has up to 10 minutes. We...
The Minister for Local Government and Planning (Derek Mackay)
SNP
Having launched Scotland’s town centre action plan on behalf of the Scottish Government, I am particularly heartened that the convener of the cross-party gro...
Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
The actions on empty properties in the plan are excellent. In Burns Statue Square in the town centre of Ayr, there are listed buildings that are in such a st...
Derek Mackay
SNP
We can do a range of things about buildings that have been left in a terrible state of repair. Such issues are the reason why we will take action through the...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab)
Lab
I welcome this debate because it gives us a chance to focus on what action needs to be taken to enable our town centres to survive. It is only a short debate...
Derek Mackay
SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Sarah Boyack
Lab
Yes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
You are in your last 45 seconds, though.
Derek Mackay
SNP
To answer the very point, I say that I absolutely agree with the member about local authorities. That is why we are waiting for their response. What I have p...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
You have 30 seconds.
Sarah Boyack
Lab
Right. I thought that the minister might have come in on the cycling point, but there is always the summing-up speech at the end.The pace of change is accele...
Gavin Brown (Lothian) (Con)
Con
Town centres are critical. I am sure that that view is shared right across the chamber, across all the political parties and across the country. They play ke...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
Many thanks.16:16
Annabelle Ewing (Mid Scotland and Fife) (SNP)
SNP
As I am a member of the cross-party group on towns and town centres, I am pleased to have been called to speak in the debate.It is clear that the need to act...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
You should be closing, please.
Annabelle Ewing
SNP
It is a pity that they cannot rely on their Labour Party representatives to confirm a commitment to small business.16:21
Margaret McCulloch (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
As convener of the cross-party group on towns and town centres, I am very keen for the future of our town centres to be pushed up the political agenda. Accor...
Bob Doris (Glasgow) (SNP)
SNP
Glasgow has many town centres that are quite distinct from its city centre. In fleshing out what a town centre first principle means in practice, let us ensu...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
Thank you for your brevity.16:28
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab)
Lab
I, too, welcome the work that has been undertaken by Malcolm Fraser and the national town centre review external advisory group, and its recommendations and ...
Derek Mackay
SNP
Of course, the member advocates for her local area. I expect her to do that. However, I do not accept that the demonstration projects are the limit of the Go...
Elaine Murray
Lab
I am grateful to the minister for that because I believe that it is a very good project. It is in line with the Government’s own mid-market rent property str...
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP)
SNP
Like Elaine Murray, I will talk about the town centre action plan in the context of the local experience of my constituents. Like all members, I hope, I am p...
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green)
Green
The town centre first principle—to put the health of town centres at the heart of a thriving local economy—is very welcome. I find it strange that we thought...
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con)
Con
A number of speeches in the debate highlighted the importance of our local businesses to our town centres. As my colleague Gavin Brown made clear, the Scotti...
Sarah Boyack
Lab
Although the debate has been brief, it has been good with lots of practical ideas for real town centres throughout the country. There has also been some cons...
Derek Mackay
SNP
To follow on from where Sarah Boyack left off, I say that modesty is my middle name, but I am delighted that Parliament has in the debate elevated my respons...
Elaine Murray
Lab
Murray.
Derek Mackay
SNP
I am sorry; I meant Elaine Murray. We should focus on local branding—we must get that right—to promote the unique selling point of communities. The Borders t...
Gavin Brown
Con
The minister says that he did not move the goalposts, so is he saying that the targets that were set for 2012-13 were not changed at all?