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Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
19 Jan 2012
Agenda for Cities
Scottish Labour welcomes the debate and the publication of the strategy for cities, which can help to shape the Scottish Government’s cities policy and provide a framework for strategic collaboration between city authorities.Since the abolition of the cities growth fund, to wh...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
08 Jun 2011
Taking Scotland Forward: Health, Wellbeing and Cities Strategy
I congratulate Colin Keir and the other members who are speaking for the first time this afternoon. I welcome the cabinet secretary to her place and congratulate her on her appointment as minister for cities strategy.There has been some speculation in the press—particularly th...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
24 Oct 2012
Portfolio Question Time · Career Guidance (Young People)
4. To ask the Scottish Government what importance it places on quality career guidance for all young people. (S4O-01369)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
24 Oct 2012
Portfolio Question Time · Career Guidance (Young People)
Can the minister confirm that she is aware that 100,000 young people are to be encouraged to miss out on a face-to-face meeting with a careers adviser as a result of a decision by Skills Development Scotland to introduce a traffic-light system that categorises most pupils as “...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
28 Nov 2012
Portfolio Question Time · College Funding (2013-14 and 2014-15)
5. To ask the Scottish Government what funding has been allocated for colleges for 2013-14 and 2014-15. (S4O-01530)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
28 Nov 2012
Portfolio Question Time · College Funding (2013-14 and 2014-15)
I am sure that we are all looking forward to scrutinising the figures for the following year.Over the summer, I was closely involved in the fight to save Freshlink Foods in my Glasgow region, and the cabinet secretary will be aware of the crisis in the industry in other parts ...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
20 Feb 2013
Portfolio Question Time · International Development Priorities (Independent Scotland)
8. To ask the Scottish Government how the international development priorities of an independent Scotland would differ from current United Kingdom aid policy. (S4O-01806)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
20 Feb 2013
Portfolio Question Time · International Development Priorities (Independent Scotland)
Last month, the minister said that a separate Scottish aid programme might go beyond the internationally agreed aid target of 0.7 per cent—perhaps even to 1 per cent, or more. On the basis of our current financial position, what would a 1 per cent commitment amount to in cash ...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
16 Jan 2013
Portfolio Question Time · College Waiting Lists (Audit)
5. To ask the Scottish Government when the audit of waiting times for colleges will be published. (S4O-01683)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
16 Jan 2013
Portfolio Question Time · College Waiting Lists (Audit)
I am sure that members look forward to the publication of the figures.It has been reported in the media that 936 potential students have been turned away from North Glasgow College. Stow College says that it has turned away more than 17,000 potential students in the past three...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
23 Jan 2013
Portfolio Question Time · George Square (Redevelopment)
I am unclear about whether or not members of the Scottish Parliament who have campaigned for improvement in George Square now support that. I recall that the group leader of the Scottish National Party in Glasgow argued that George Square needed a substantial facelift, not jus...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
06 Feb 2013
Portfolio Question Time · NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde (Meetings)
At his last meeting with NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde, did the cabinet secretary ask for a full report on the problems that are affecting the assisted conception unit at Glasgow royal infirmary? I am still being contacted by distressed women and couples who have simply and ca...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
12 Jun 2013
Portfolio Question Time · Family Nurse Partnerships
As members of the Health and Sport Committee, Mr Paterson and I recently heard evidence about family nurse partnerships, particularly their roll-out in NHS Lothian, during our inquiry into teenage pregnancy. Although I believe that we are all supportive of the initiative, I wa...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
08 May 2013
Portfolio Question Time · Detect Cancer Early Programme
I welcome the measures that the cabinet secretary has outlined, but can he offer an assurance about what is happening for those patients who are awaiting secondary treatment? Although all the Government’s efforts on early detection and initial treatment are extremely important...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
26 Jun 2013
Portfolio Question Time · College Mergers (Glasgow)
5. To ask the Scottish Government what progress has been made on college mergers in Glasgow. (S4O-02296)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
26 Jun 2013
Portfolio Question Time · College Mergers (Glasgow)
Can the cabinet secretary say how many extra places will be available for prospective college students in Glasgow as a result of the mergers?
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
01 May 2013
Portfolio Question Time · Police (Civilian Staff)
7. To ask the Scottish Government what steps it is taking to prevent the backfilling of civilian staff posts by police officers. (S4O-02061)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
01 May 2013
Portfolio Question Time · Police (Civilian Staff)
In the cabinet secretary’s answer to Kezia Dugdale, he mentioned the 1,000 extra police officers, but he will be aware of the 977 fewer police staff in the past two years. George McIrvine, Unison branch secretary, said:“We have been told for two years by the employers and the ...
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
04 Dec 2013
Portfolio Question Time · Flood Prevention (Hamilton and Surrounding Areas)
Last month, it was reported in the press that the Scottish National Party has diverted £800,000 from Scottish Water to the publicity budget for the Scottish independence white paper. Will the minister confirm to Parliament that that is true and tell us what impact that decisio...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Dec 2013
Portfolio Question Time · World Forum on Natural Capital
5. To ask the Scottish Government whether it will provide an update on the world forum on natural capital that was held in Edinburgh recently. (S4O-02661)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
04 Dec 2013
Portfolio Question Time · World Forum on Natural Capital
The minister and other members who might have received a number of emails on the subject will know that the concept of natural capital is not without its critics. However, I have read the helpful briefing that was provided by the Scottish Wildlife Trust, which argues that, alt...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
09 Oct 2013
Portfolio Question Time · Economic Development Programmes (Discussions with United Kingdom Government)
11. To ask the Scottish Government what discussions it has with the UK Government regarding economic development programmes. (S4O-02482)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
09 Oct 2013
Portfolio Question Time · Economic Development Programmes (Discussions with United Kingdom Government)
The cabinet secretary will be aware of the call that is being made by Glasgow City Council for a greater role for local authorities in economic development and the proposal that both the UK and Scottish Governments should work together with the council and other local authorit...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
11 Sep 2013
Portfolio Question Time · Police Stations (Police Scotland Review)
6. To ask the Scottish Government which police stations are being considered for closure or a reduction in counter opening hours in Police Scotland’s review of police station service delivery. (S4O-02367)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
11 Sep 2013
Portfolio Question Time · Police Stations (Police Scotland Review)
I thank the cabinet secretary for that comprehensive answer, including the information on using social media for reporting crime.Over the summer, the chief constable wrote to members about Police Scotland’s review of the number and opening hours of police counters in police st...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
18 Sep 2013
Portfolio Question Time · NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde (Vacancies)
9. To ask the Scottish Government what recent discussions it has had with NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde regarding the filling of vacant positions. (S4O-02390)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
18 Sep 2013
Portfolio Question Time · NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde (Vacancies)
I thank the cabinet secretary for that answer. I hope that he will be aware of figures that have been released by Unison that indicate that vacancies at NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde are at an all-time high; Unison estimates that the board is short of some 1,800 staff. Will th...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
22 Jan 2014
Portfolio Question Time · National Litter Strategy
8. To ask the Scottish Government when it will publish its national litter strategy. (S4O-02824)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
22 Jan 2014
Portfolio Question Time · National Litter Strategy
The cabinet secretary will be aware of the problem of the dumping of waste such as cooking fats and unsold foods by some takeaway establishments. It has been reported that some offenders in Glasgow have come into the city for that purpose and the council has named and shamed s...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
11 Jun 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Oral Cancer (National Health Service Treatment)
15. To ask the Scottish Government what secondary dental treatment for oral cancer is provided without charge by the NHS. (S4O-03340)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
11 Jun 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Oral Cancer (National Health Service Treatment)
I was made aware of the problem by a member of the public who told me that he was fundraising for an individual who had been told that he needed to have dental extractions that were not covered, although he had also been advised that they would be required as part of his treat...
5. Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
26 Mar 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Universities (Research Council Funding)
To ask the Scottish Government what share of the United Kingdom research councils’ funding Scottish universities currently receive. (S4O-03054)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
26 Mar 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Universities (Research Council Funding)
Based on a population share, Scotland would certainly get less. Given that Professor Paul Boyle told the Education and Culture Committee yesterday that no single research council spans more than one country, there is no doubt that support for research is one of the many benefi...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
26 Mar 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Independent Scotland (Childcare Policy)
How much do you need?
5. Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Sep 2013
Portfolio Question Time · Oil Fund
To ask the Scottish Government in what year it anticipates an oil fund could be set up in an independent Scotland. (S4O-02326)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
04 Sep 2013
Portfolio Question Time · Oil Fund
I thank the cabinet secretary for that answer—although he did not provide us with a better answer than the Deputy First Minister managed on Radio Scotland yesterday. Does the cabinet secretary at least accept that tax revenues from the North Sea cannot be spent twice in an in...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
08 Jan 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Tuition Fees (Objective Justification)
To ask the Scottish Government what discussions it has had with the European Union regarding objective justification for charging United Kingdom students tuition fees but not students from other European Union countries in the event of Scotland becoming independent. (S4O-02756...
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
08 Jan 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Tuition Fees (Objective Justification)
The Scottish Government has asserted that Scotland’s border with England will be somehow unique in terms of European law and that the ease of transport across it to study somehow means that the Scottish Government can blatantly break EU laws that are designed to prevent member...
2. Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
28 May 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Independence White Paper (Tax)
To ask the Scottish Government what its response is to the Institute of Chartered Accountants of Scotland’s comment that the white paper on independence “contained very little detail on tax”. (S4O-03267)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
28 May 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Independence White Paper (Tax)
The only thing that we know for sure about a tax system in an independent Scotland is the SNP’s desire to engage in a reckless tax competition by cutting tax for big business by 3 per cent more than the Tories ever would. ICAS has highlighted the complete lack of information f...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
28 May 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Wealth Inequalities (Tax Powers)
Will the cabinet secretary take the opportunity to remind the radical voices behind him about how slashing corporation tax for big business and forcing regressive tax competition on the rest of the United Kingdom would result in a more equal Scotland?
2. Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
01 Oct 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Glasgow and Clyde Valley City Deal
To ask the Scottish Government how it will introduce the Glasgow and Clyde valley city deal. (S4O-03542)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
01 Oct 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Glasgow and Clyde Valley City Deal
Probably the biggest barrier to Glasgow’s economic growth that this Government has created remains the issue of an effective surface transport link to Glasgow’s airport. What steps will the Scottish Government now take to ensure that the opportunity of a city deal is maximised...
4. Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
12 Nov 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Low Emissions Strategy
To ask the Scottish Government what progress it is making in developing its low emissions strategy. (S4O-03666)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
12 Nov 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Low Emissions Strategy
I look forward to the strategy. Earlier this year, Health Protection Scotland attributed pollution as a cause of death in 306 cases in Glasgow, which is the highest number in the country. I note that the draft budget includes no additional funding to improve air quality. What ...
2. Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
26 Nov 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Rents (Private Sector)
To ask the Scottish Government what action it is taking to tackle high rents in the private sector. (S4O-03742)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
26 Nov 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Rents (Private Sector)
Nearly half of lets in the private sector are occupied by families and one in four of the poorest people have to rent privately. At the same time, we have seen rent rises in some areas of 40 per cent in just four years, meaning that many Scots are paying half their monthly pay...
7. Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Dec 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Work Programme (Devolution to Local Authorities)
To ask the Scottish Government whether it will support devolving to local authorities delivery of the work currently carried out under the Department for Work and Pensions’ work programme. (S4O-03797)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
10 Dec 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Work Programme (Devolution to Local Authorities)
Glasgow is the powerhouse of the Scottish economy. With the ability to tailor support for jobseekers that reflects the reality of local labour markets around the country, we have a real opportunity to improve the successor arrangements for the work programme. Will the cabinet...
16. Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
15 Jan 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Independence (Financial Times Survey)
To ask the Scottish Government what its position is on the recent Financial Times survey on how a vote for independence would affect the Scottish economy and the rest of the United Kingdom in 2014. (S4O-02792)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
15 Jan 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Independence (Financial Times Survey)
A hundred economists, academics and business leaders overwhelmingly rejected or expressed concerns about the uncertainty in the Scottish Government’s plans, many using words such as “disastrous”, “catastrophic” and “economically illiterate”. I presume that that was a disappoin...
6. Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Jun 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Chief Constable (Meetings)
To ask the Scottish Government when it last met the chief constable. (S4O-03311)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
04 Jun 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Chief Constable (Meetings)
At the cabinet secretary’s next meeting with Sir Stephen House, will he undertake to convey the real concerns that have been expressed by members from across the Parliament about the routine arming of police officers who are on patrol? Will he accept that, regardless of how lo...
8. Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
18 Jun 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Consular Representatives (Engagement on Case for Independence)
To ask the Scottish Government what engagement it has sought with consular representatives to explain its case for Scotland leaving the United Kingdom. (S4O-03364)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
18 Jun 2014
Portfolio Question Time · Consular Representatives (Engagement on Case for Independence)
We know that most Scots are unconvinced about independence and the decision will, after all, be theirs. However, in a week in which the Swedish Government has expressed concerns, as have the former United States Secretary of State, President Obama and now the Chinese Premier, ...
7. Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
17 Jun 2015
Portfolio Question Time · ScotRail (Meetings)
To ask the Scottish Government when ministers last met the management of ScotRail. (S4O-04474)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
17 Jun 2015
Portfolio Question Time · ScotRail (Meetings)
I thank the minister for his reference to recent events at Abellio, where we have seen senior departures from the company in Scotland and in Holland. The Dutch Government has said that there is a need for cultural change in Abellio. The minister will also be aware of the comm...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
24 Jun 2015
Portfolio Question Time · College Principals
I welcome the cabinet secretary’s comments in response to Paul Martin’s question about the canteen 13 at Glasgow Kelvin College. Given that many former principals have enjoyed enhanced redundancy arrangements, does she agree that current principals whose role involves decision...
4. Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab Chamber
16 Dec 2015
Portfolio Question Time · Scottish Index of Multiple Deprivation (Delayed Publication)
To ask the Scottish Government for what reason the publication of the Scottish index of multiple deprivation has been delayed. (S4O-05187)
Drew Smith Lab Chamber
16 Dec 2015
Portfolio Question Time · Scottish Index of Multiple Deprivation (Delayed Publication)
The decision to delay publication is obviously regrettable. However, in the spirit of Christmas, can I ask the minister what targeted and redistributive policies of the Scottish Government she is most confident will have delivered a meaningful improvement to the position of he...
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 19 January 2012

19 Jan 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Agenda for Cities
Scottish Labour welcomes the debate and the publication of the strategy for cities, which can help to shape the Scottish Government’s cities policy and provide a framework for strategic collaboration between city authorities.

Since the abolition of the cities growth fund, to which the Labour amendment refers, there has been a complaint from Scotland’s cities that the Government does not always understand the challenges and opportunities that our cities present. Our cities are the powerhouse of Scotland’s economy. As the cabinet secretary said, they are our major population centres and 86 per cent of us live within an hour’s drive of a city. Our cities are home to many of our most important cultural and intellectual institutions, and they are our major transport hubs. In the modern economy, we must harness the potential of such advantages to ensure prosperity through innovation and growth. We need design and planning, not accident and by-product.

We are not seeking to pitch one part of the country against another or to put undue emphasis on the urban over the rural. Rather, we acknowledge that the success of Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Dundee, Inverness and Stirling can not only improve the wellbeing of the people who live and work in those cities but drive forward the prosperity of the city regions and the whole of Scotland.

We debated cities strategy briefly in the opening days of this parliamentary session, in the context of a wider debate about the cabinet secretary’s portfolio priorities. During the debate, the cabinet secretary talked about bringing forward a stand-alone debate on cities strategy as soon as possible, and it appears that today is the first opportunity that she has had to do that, as she said.

During the debate on the cabinet secretary’s portfolio priorities, I expressed hope that the Parliament would be an active partner with the cabinet secretary in developing her new area of work as cities minister. It is slightly unfortunate that our first chance in that regard comes after the strategy has been published rather than beforehand, which would have enabled us to inform the strategy. Members of all parties could have contributed usefully to an earlier debate. However, we can make a useful contribution at this stage, too, and I accept the cabinet secretary’s comments about the collaborative approach that she wants to take in the spirit in which I am sure she made them.

Scottish Labour particularly welcomes a number of aspects of the cities strategy. I am pleased that it will continue to be led by the cities themselves. Given the work that SCDI did on the six cities review, I welcome its continued involvement and its role as chair of the leadership group. The cities minister’s role should be as an enabler and occasional fixer in times when a lack of joined-up government means that the priorities and problems that the cities might encounter are not understood.

This is the first debate on cities in this session, but previous Governments were not silent on this area of policy. Labour’s cities growth fund, which the Scottish National Party scrapped, provided £173 million between 2003 and 2008.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-01740, in the name of Nicola Sturgeon, on the agenda for cities.14:57
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Health, Wellbeing and Cities Strategy (Nicola Sturgeon) SNP
This is an important debate not only for our cities, but for the regions in which they sit and, I argue, for all of Scotland. It is good to see so many membe...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Scottish Labour welcomes the debate and the publication of the strategy for cities, which can help to shape the Scottish Government’s cities policy and provi...
Joe FitzPatrick (Dundee City West) (SNP) SNP
Does the member acknowledge that the cities growth fund was rolled into the local government allocation that the cities received?
Drew Smith Lab
I entirely accept that point, but rolling the fund into the allocation meant that it was used to pursue the Scottish Government’s priorities, whereas its pur...
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Well, I had good news and bad news. The good news was a call from the business team, saying that the Conservative spokesman had an opportunity in this aftern...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
Do it!
Jackson Carlaw Con
I am tempted, but I do not know whether it will help the Presiding Officer to stretch out the afternoon.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
Please do not do it, Mr Carlaw.
Jackson Carlaw Con
I accept the report and its contention that cities are a good thing; that Scotland has some; and that they are generally to be commended. Indeed, I share the...
Drew Smith Lab
I commend to the member the Glasgow Economic Commission, which has involved the private sector in its work; indeed, the Glasgow Chamber of Commerce is one of...
Jackson Carlaw Con
I fully accept that point, but I am sure that Mr Smith would accept that, as they go about their day, most businesspeople concentrate on their business. I do...
Nicola Sturgeon SNP
They are certainly not watching Mr Carlaw.
Jackson Carlaw Con
I am the first to admit that they would be very disappointed if they were watching this afternoon.Businesses do what they need to do, and businesspeople want...
Maureen Watt SNP
Will the member give way?
Jackson Carlaw Con
Of course. Interruption.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Can we have Maureen Watt’s microphone on, please?
Maureen Watt SNP
It was my fault; I did not have my card in.The member should get out a bit more. What he calls for is precisely what is happening in Aberdeen, where people a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I would be grateful if you could come to a conclusion, Mr Carlaw.
Jackson Carlaw Con
I will do so by saying that my son is at university in Aberdeen, so I get to visit Aberdeen quite regularly. I congratulate Maureen Watt on what will be an e...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We now move to the open debate. Although we are not awash with time, we have a little bit of leeway for interventions.15:28
Joe FitzPatrick (Dundee City West) (SNP) SNP
Members will not be surprised to hear that my speech will focus on my home city, Dundee.The opening statement by the cabinet secretary, the additional £2 mil...
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The member and I both welcomed this week’s announcement of the enterprise zone. Has he had any indication from his Government about what form the incentives ...
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
Dundee City Council is engaging with the cabinet secretary to ensure that, by working together, Dundee and Edinburgh get the best impact for us. It is import...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I would be grateful if the member could start to conclude.
Joe FitzPatrick SNP
The development of Dundee as a base for renewables and the site of the V&A would not have come about were it not for the support of Dundee City Council, whic...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I remind members that if they wish to speak in the debate, they should press their request-to-speak buttons, and that if they intervene, they should then pre...
John Park (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate. I want to focus on the challenges for the Fife region of being between two of Scotland’s largest cities—Dun...
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
I thank John Park for his thought-provoking speech, which touched on issues that concern me, too. I will talk about community involvement and community benef...
Drew Smith Lab
The member can correct me if I am wrong, but has the SNP group in Glasgow City Council not expressed concerns about that project? It has not supported a spee...