Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 19 January 2012
19 Jan 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Agenda for Cities
Scottish Labour welcomes the debate and the publication of the strategy for cities, which can help to shape the Scottish Government’s cities policy and provide a framework for strategic collaboration between city authorities.
Since the abolition of the cities growth fund, to which the Labour amendment refers, there has been a complaint from Scotland’s cities that the Government does not always understand the challenges and opportunities that our cities present. Our cities are the powerhouse of Scotland’s economy. As the cabinet secretary said, they are our major population centres and 86 per cent of us live within an hour’s drive of a city. Our cities are home to many of our most important cultural and intellectual institutions, and they are our major transport hubs. In the modern economy, we must harness the potential of such advantages to ensure prosperity through innovation and growth. We need design and planning, not accident and by-product.
We are not seeking to pitch one part of the country against another or to put undue emphasis on the urban over the rural. Rather, we acknowledge that the success of Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Dundee, Inverness and Stirling can not only improve the wellbeing of the people who live and work in those cities but drive forward the prosperity of the city regions and the whole of Scotland.
We debated cities strategy briefly in the opening days of this parliamentary session, in the context of a wider debate about the cabinet secretary’s portfolio priorities. During the debate, the cabinet secretary talked about bringing forward a stand-alone debate on cities strategy as soon as possible, and it appears that today is the first opportunity that she has had to do that, as she said.
During the debate on the cabinet secretary’s portfolio priorities, I expressed hope that the Parliament would be an active partner with the cabinet secretary in developing her new area of work as cities minister. It is slightly unfortunate that our first chance in that regard comes after the strategy has been published rather than beforehand, which would have enabled us to inform the strategy. Members of all parties could have contributed usefully to an earlier debate. However, we can make a useful contribution at this stage, too, and I accept the cabinet secretary’s comments about the collaborative approach that she wants to take in the spirit in which I am sure she made them.
Scottish Labour particularly welcomes a number of aspects of the cities strategy. I am pleased that it will continue to be led by the cities themselves. Given the work that SCDI did on the six cities review, I welcome its continued involvement and its role as chair of the leadership group. The cities minister’s role should be as an enabler and occasional fixer in times when a lack of joined-up government means that the priorities and problems that the cities might encounter are not understood.
This is the first debate on cities in this session, but previous Governments were not silent on this area of policy. Labour’s cities growth fund, which the Scottish National Party scrapped, provided £173 million between 2003 and 2008.
Since the abolition of the cities growth fund, to which the Labour amendment refers, there has been a complaint from Scotland’s cities that the Government does not always understand the challenges and opportunities that our cities present. Our cities are the powerhouse of Scotland’s economy. As the cabinet secretary said, they are our major population centres and 86 per cent of us live within an hour’s drive of a city. Our cities are home to many of our most important cultural and intellectual institutions, and they are our major transport hubs. In the modern economy, we must harness the potential of such advantages to ensure prosperity through innovation and growth. We need design and planning, not accident and by-product.
We are not seeking to pitch one part of the country against another or to put undue emphasis on the urban over the rural. Rather, we acknowledge that the success of Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Dundee, Inverness and Stirling can not only improve the wellbeing of the people who live and work in those cities but drive forward the prosperity of the city regions and the whole of Scotland.
We debated cities strategy briefly in the opening days of this parliamentary session, in the context of a wider debate about the cabinet secretary’s portfolio priorities. During the debate, the cabinet secretary talked about bringing forward a stand-alone debate on cities strategy as soon as possible, and it appears that today is the first opportunity that she has had to do that, as she said.
During the debate on the cabinet secretary’s portfolio priorities, I expressed hope that the Parliament would be an active partner with the cabinet secretary in developing her new area of work as cities minister. It is slightly unfortunate that our first chance in that regard comes after the strategy has been published rather than beforehand, which would have enabled us to inform the strategy. Members of all parties could have contributed usefully to an earlier debate. However, we can make a useful contribution at this stage, too, and I accept the cabinet secretary’s comments about the collaborative approach that she wants to take in the spirit in which I am sure she made them.
Scottish Labour particularly welcomes a number of aspects of the cities strategy. I am pleased that it will continue to be led by the cities themselves. Given the work that SCDI did on the six cities review, I welcome its continued involvement and its role as chair of the leadership group. The cities minister’s role should be as an enabler and occasional fixer in times when a lack of joined-up government means that the priorities and problems that the cities might encounter are not understood.
This is the first debate on cities in this session, but previous Governments were not silent on this area of policy. Labour’s cities growth fund, which the Scottish National Party scrapped, provided £173 million between 2003 and 2008.
In the same item of business
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-01740, in the name of Nicola Sturgeon, on the agenda for cities.14:57
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Health, Wellbeing and Cities Strategy (Nicola Sturgeon)
SNP
This is an important debate not only for our cities, but for the regions in which they sit and, I argue, for all of Scotland. It is good to see so many membe...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab)
Lab
Scottish Labour welcomes the debate and the publication of the strategy for cities, which can help to shape the Scottish Government’s cities policy and provi...
Joe FitzPatrick (Dundee City West) (SNP)
SNP
Does the member acknowledge that the cities growth fund was rolled into the local government allocation that the cities received?
Drew Smith
Lab
I entirely accept that point, but rolling the fund into the allocation meant that it was used to pursue the Scottish Government’s priorities, whereas its pur...
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con)
Con
Well, I had good news and bad news. The good news was a call from the business team, saying that the Conservative spokesman had an opportunity in this aftern...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab)
Lab
Do it!
Jackson Carlaw
Con
I am tempted, but I do not know whether it will help the Presiding Officer to stretch out the afternoon.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
Please do not do it, Mr Carlaw.
Jackson Carlaw
Con
I accept the report and its contention that cities are a good thing; that Scotland has some; and that they are generally to be commended. Indeed, I share the...
Drew Smith
Lab
I commend to the member the Glasgow Economic Commission, which has involved the private sector in its work; indeed, the Glasgow Chamber of Commerce is one of...
Jackson Carlaw
Con
I fully accept that point, but I am sure that Mr Smith would accept that, as they go about their day, most businesspeople concentrate on their business. I do...
Nicola Sturgeon
SNP
They are certainly not watching Mr Carlaw.
Jackson Carlaw
Con
I am the first to admit that they would be very disappointed if they were watching this afternoon.Businesses do what they need to do, and businesspeople want...
Maureen Watt
SNP
Will the member give way?
Jackson Carlaw
Con
Of course. Interruption.
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
Can we have Maureen Watt’s microphone on, please?
Maureen Watt
SNP
It was my fault; I did not have my card in.The member should get out a bit more. What he calls for is precisely what is happening in Aberdeen, where people a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I would be grateful if you could come to a conclusion, Mr Carlaw.
Jackson Carlaw
Con
I will do so by saying that my son is at university in Aberdeen, so I get to visit Aberdeen quite regularly. I congratulate Maureen Watt on what will be an e...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
We now move to the open debate. Although we are not awash with time, we have a little bit of leeway for interventions.15:28
Joe FitzPatrick (Dundee City West) (SNP)
SNP
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Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
The member and I both welcomed this week’s announcement of the enterprise zone. Has he had any indication from his Government about what form the incentives ...
Joe FitzPatrick
SNP
Dundee City Council is engaging with the cabinet secretary to ensure that, by working together, Dundee and Edinburgh get the best impact for us. It is import...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I would be grateful if the member could start to conclude.
Joe FitzPatrick
SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
I remind members that if they wish to speak in the debate, they should press their request-to-speak buttons, and that if they intervene, they should then pre...
John Park (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab)
Lab
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Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP)
SNP
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Drew Smith
Lab
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