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Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Sep 2018
UK Trade Arrangements: Scotland’s Role
As we know, trade agreements are the rules that govern our economic relationships with the rest of the world. For more than 40 years, those rules have been shaped by our place in Europe and for more than 40 years, as a willing member state, we have shaped those rules. Exiting...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
14 Nov 2024
UK-EU Trade and Co-operation Agreement
I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate on behalf of Scottish Labour. I, too, welcome the publication of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee’s important report on the UK-EU trade and co-operation agreement, which is due to be reviewed by 2...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
21 Mar 2018
UK Withdrawal from the European Union (Legal Continuity) (Scotland) Bill
I, too, thank all the parliamentary and committee staff as well as my own party group staff, including Madeleine Grieve, for all their support and hard work during the bill process. The continuity bill’s passage through the Parliament over the past several weeks is entirely w...
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
23 Feb 2021
Tied Pubs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The amendments in this group seek to remove, restrict or otherwise change the provisions in the bill with regard to the code requiring a pub-owning business to enter into a guest beer agreement with a tenant. I reassure members that I believe that a guest beer agreement is a p...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
21 Mar 2024
Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement
Good morning, everyone. Thank you for your testimony. We have heard loud and clear that the situation is costing you money and time. I have heard many businesses say that time is also money, so there is a double hit there. I want to pick up on what Gary Stephenson said earl...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Apr 2017
Air Departure Tax (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Every party that is represented in the Parliament is a signatory to the Smith agreement. As all the previous speakers have said, a commitment was given as part of that agreement to devolve to this Parliament power over taxing the carriage of passengers from Scottish airports. ...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
23 Jan 2018
European Union (Withdrawal) Bill
The referendum decision to withdraw from the EU has created significant argument and division. Passions run high on both sides. In some senses, it is remarkable that the Finance and Constitution Committee has managed to produce a unanimously agreed report on the LCM for the Eu...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
21 Nov 2018
Withdrawal Agreement
I want to ask about the effect that the withdrawal agreement will have on on-going discussions about common UK frameworks. Do you accept that there is a greater urgency in agreeing those frameworks, given the potential for a hard Brexit? What impact will the Northern Ireland p...
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
16 Nov 2023
Touring Artists
I thank the panel members for your evidence and your campaigning efforts on these issues. On the issue of a cultural touring agreement, it would be remiss of me not to mention that the shadow secretary of state for culture, media and sport has committed a future Labour Governm...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
28 Mar 2024
Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement
Good morning. We have discussed extensively how difficult the situation is, its impact, the need for change and how difficult negotiations can be. We have heard support both today and previously for a veterinary agreement being sought as soon as possible, as a matter of urgenc...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
02 May 2024
Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement
This morning, we have heard that sales from Northern Ireland to Great Britain are up, and—I think that Mr Kelly said this—that the Northern Irish economy is 6 per cent larger in comparison with 1 per cent larger for the UK as a whole over recent years. We have heard about the ...
Neil Bibby Lab Chamber
14 Nov 2024
UK-EU Trade and Co-operation Agreement
I will come on to Labour’s position. However, the Labour Government is committed to upholding our international agreements that we sign up to. If that was not enough and did not illustrate the point, the committee also heard from Innovative Food Ltd, which referenced its good...
Neil Bibby Lab Chamber
14 Nov 2024
UK-EU Trade and Co-operation Agreement
I will tell George Adam now, but we also told him in July, through our manifesto. We said that we “will work to improve the UK’s trade and investment relationship with the EU, by tearing down unnecessary barriers to trade. We will seek to negotiate a veterinary agreement to p...
Neil Bibby Lab Chamber
15 May 2025
Scotland in Today’s Europe
If we want more people to work in the care sector, we need to start paying care workers more money. The trade unions in the care sector have been demanding £15 an hour from the SNP Government, and the Government has come nowhere near meeting that demand. If we are serious abou...
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
15 Jan 2013
Post-16 Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
There may be a case for regular reform in further and higher education. Why have you chosen to make the changes to further education through legislation but make the changes to higher education through agreement? Why can you not make the changes that you wish in further educat...
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
11 Nov 2014
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2015-16
To be clear, there is an agreement for this year, 2014-15, but we are looking at the draft budget for 2015-16, and there is no agreement yet on teacher numbers for that year.
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
20 May 2015
Rent-tied Pub Tenants
I join Sandra White in welcoming the debate and congratulate Paul Martin on securing this debate on an important issue. Pub company reform is crucial to the wellbeing of Scotland’s beer and pubs industry. The fact that two pubs close every week in Scotland is a stark reminder...
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
26 Oct 2016
Transport Update
My first question is on targets on which clarification would be helpful. Phil Verster has talked about a PPM of 90.3 per cent. In the chamber on 22 September in an answer to me the minister said the public performance measure target is 91.3 per cent. The franchise agreement sa...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
09 May 2017
Railway Policing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
There is no doubt that the Smith commission envisaged a much greater role for the Scottish Parliament in relation to railway policing. However, it would be profoundly wrong to suggest that the integration of the BTP into Police Scotland is somehow a requirement or a stipulatio...
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
07 Mar 2018
UK Withdrawal from the European Union (Legal Continuity) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Here at stage 1, we are discussing the necessity for the legislation and the principle of legislating on this issue. The reason for legislating is that there is no agreement on the withdrawal bill. However, the Parliament and the public do not know what the areas of disagreeme...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
15 May 2018
European Union (Withdrawal) Bill
Although there has been much debate about the hugely important issues of the customs union, the single market and the Northern Ireland border, the Brexit debate in the Scottish Parliament has been dominated by our response to the UK Government’s withdrawal bill. Brexit is enti...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
24 Sep 2019
Common Frameworks
The decision of voters in the 2016 referendum to leave the European Union has caused political shock waves, anger and division, along with confusion and uncertainty. As this debate takes place, and following the UK Supreme Court’s historic judgment today, there is no obvious s...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
27 Oct 2021
COP26 Global Ambitions
Earlier this week, the First Minister said that COP26 must produce “credible action, not face-saving slogans”. I certainly agree, but, unfortunately, “face-saving” is the default setting of the Government all too often. No platitudes to world leaders, no gestures at the conf...
Neil Bibby Lab Chamber
03 Feb 2022
ScotRail
We need more seats on trains, particularly given the potential need for social distancing. While ministers make grand statements about the importance of tackling climate change, bringing about modal shift and reducing car use, they are failing to build back our railways. Toda...
Neil Bibby Lab Chamber
16 Apr 2024
Scotland’s International Culture Strategy
I am sorry; I have already taken two. That is why Labour would push for a visa waiver for touring artists and would negotiate an EU-wide cultural touring agreement, including allowances for cabotage, carnets and customs rules. Scotland’s culture sector is clearly valuable, a...
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
06 Jun 2024
Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement
Clearly, in negotiating such a complex agreement as the TCA, people will want to look at the detail of specific issues but also to look at it in the round. I imagine that it is particularly challenging to look at the details while also looking at things in the round. I have a...
Neil Bibby Lab Chamber
14 Nov 2024
UK-EU Trade and Co-operation Agreement
I have already taken two interventions. I am sorry, but I would like to make some progress. As I said, we should seek a veterinary agreement with the EU to significantly reduce border checks and the administrative burden on exports of agrifoods to the EU. I am pleased that th...
Neil Bibby Lab Chamber
14 Nov 2024
UK-EU Trade and Co-operation Agreement
I absolutely accept that—it would be significantly beneficial. That is why the new UK Labour Government is committed to seeking the veterinary agreement. It would be beneficial to consumers and businesses in the UK as well as in the EU. We certainly want to see progress in tha...
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
05 Dec 2024
Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement
That is helpful to know. Thank you. We have discussed a lot about the veterinary agreement in relation to trade in goods. I want to ask Ms Mackinnon about the impact of shortages of vets on domestic pets. Vets are highly skilled professionals and need to be properly remunerat...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
12 Dec 2024
Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement
Good morning, Mr Bain and Mr Berman. We are talking about the review of the trade and co-operation agreement between the European Union and the United Kingdom, and you have set out areas for the United Kingdom Government to try to address with the European Union. Could you set...
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
13 Mar 2025
Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement
Good morning, panel. We have heard extensively about the problems and issues that are facing the sector and artists, and we have received a submission from the Musicians Union that lays out a lot of the issues. Following on from the previous line of questioning, I would be gra...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
20 Mar 2025
Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement
You quoted the Spice Girls. The Rolling Stones had the song “You Can’t Always Get What You Want”. Obviously, in negotiations, there will be a need for concessions and compromises on both sides. You mentioned all the issues that the Scottish Government wanted to be included in ...
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
20 Sep 2011
Current Petitions
There are a couple of points in the letter from Transport Scotland about practical measures that could be taken to mitigate noise. For example, it states:“The Minister gained assurance from the operator that through educating drivers about braking and accelerating efficiently,...
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
17 Apr 2012
Youth Employment
I agree that it is common sense to keep in touch with young people in prison. However, I am concerned if statistics classify young people in prison as having a positive destination because they have an activity agreement.
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
26 Jan 2012
Kinship Carers
Like other members, I start by paying tribute to the family members—mostly grandparents—who care for thousands of children in Scotland. When parents have difficulty caring for children, for whatever reason, family members often step in to provide a stable and loving home for c...
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
28 May 2013
Post-16 Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The reason behind amendment 186 is not to expose colleges to the potential consequences of indemnifying third parties. I understand that the 1992 act states that no form of indemnification can be given without Scottish funding council permission. The bill as it stands refers t...
Neil Bibby Lab Chamber
08 May 2013
Childcare
No, I am not completely discounting that work at all. If the minister had listened to what Hugh Henry and others have said, she would understand that we need to take a rounded view of childcare provision in Scotland from birth to the age of 14. That is the point that the minis...
Neil Bibby Lab Chamber
30 Apr 2013
Press Regulation
I think that it is important that we look at all the issues. I know that the Leveson inquiry made some important recommendations in that regard and they should be acted upon.As I was saying, and as Graeme Pearson said, papers do not stop at the border. Anyone who has picked up...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
17 Sep 2013
Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have some questions on the relationship between local government and national Government. COSLA has raised concerns about the effect on local democracy, particularly of section 17 in part 3 and the proposals to give ministerial powers to establish joint boards for the planni...
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
17 Sep 2013
Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Another area that I wanted to ask about is the children’s hearings system. During the passage of the Children’s Hearings (Scotland) Bill, the Scottish Parliament gave local authorities the right to reach agreement on resources for children’s hearings and area support teams. Th...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
12 Mar 2014
Procurement Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I welcome the opportunity to speak to amendment 80. Childcare was a major feature of the recent stage 3 debate on the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill. Before that bill was published, when it was just being discussed, my Labour colleagues and I called on the Scottish ...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
07 Jan 2014
Scotland’s Future
The First Minister has announced more childcare, using the devolved powers and devolved resources that he has to pIedge childcare for 15 per cent and then 27 per cent of two-year-olds. He has proved that we do not need independence to improve childcare. The obvious question, t...
Neil Bibby Lab Chamber
19 Feb 2014
Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The amendments on the issue appear to be minimal and do not fundamentally add to or detract from the current proposals. They appear to improve the process that must be followed when a school closure is considered and the transparency of the decision, and they make the process ...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
26 Feb 2014
Scotland’s Children
Like all parties in the chamber, the Scottish Labour Party continues to support curriculum for excellence. We want it to work, and that is why Scottish Labour have brought the debate to the chamber today, so that members can raise concerns and reflect on the evidence that was ...
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
20 Feb 2014
Independence: European Union Membership Inquiry
On opt-outs, the Schengen agreement was mentioned earlier. In recent months, the Scottish Government has said that it would have a significantly different immigration policy from the rest of the UK if Scotland became independent. In your experience, how is proposing a vastly d...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
28 Jan 2014
Tackling Child Sexual Exploitation in Scotland
I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate. We often say that debates are important, but I cannot think of many debates that are more important than one on how we protect our children from harm and from sexual exploitation. I thank Dave Stewart and the other Public Peti...
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
19 Aug 2014
Historic Environment Scotland Bill: Stage 2
I thank the cabinet secretary for her comments and will reflect on the discussion. I seek leave to withdraw my amendment. Amendment 62, by agreement, withdrawn. Section 23 agreed to. Section 24—Subordinate legislation Amendment 59 moved—Fiona Hyslop—and agreed to. Sectio...
Neil Bibby Lab Chamber
29 Jan 2015
Chilcot Inquiry
Sorry, I do not have time. The people of Iraq cannot afford to have their current needs lost in the discussion of those past mistakes. We know that the conflict continues to affect a number of countries, Sunni and Shia, in the middle east, including Iraq. Those are, of course...
Neil Bibby Lab Chamber
25 Nov 2015
Clyde and Hebrides Ferry Services
I am not sure whether the minister has even read the legal advice of Gordon Nardell QC. Given what he says, I encourage him to do so. Surely it is only reasonable that, if there is agreement that we do not want to tender and the legal advice backs that up, we should stop the ...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
27 Jun 2017
Railway Policing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I declare an interest as a member of the National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers parliamentary group. Members will recall that Scottish Labour voted against the general principles of the Railway Policing (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. We have consistently opposed ...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
28 Jun 2017
Brexit
I raised issues of transparency with you the last time that you were here, minister. The terms of reference for the article 50 negotiations state that the default position for both the European Commission and the UK Government is transparency. Will the Scottish Government’s po...
Neil Bibby Lab Chamber
27 Jun 2017
Railway Policing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The amendments in this group concern training in relation to the policing of railways and railway property. Amendment 2 requires that any agreement reached under section 85K(1) “include arrangements for constables, who are assigned duties that relate to the policing of railw...
Neil Bibby Lab Chamber
27 Jun 2017
Railway Policing (Scotland) Bill
We must listen to the concerns of officers, staff, train operators and rail unions. We have to go back to the drawing board and look at the matter again. The Government is making a big mistake. When the Justice Committee took evidence at stage 1, the majority of respondents r...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
09 Nov 2017
Seat Belts on School Transport (Scotland) Bill
I thank Gillian Martin for her efforts in steering the bill through Parliament, and for her willingness to work with members across the political divide. We will all want to thank the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee for its endeavours and scrutiny, and we want, of cou...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
21 Feb 2018
Trade Bill
Can you clarify the Scottish Government’s position on the customs union? I understand that the Scottish Government wants to remain part of the European Union and, as such, a member of the customs union. However, is it the Scottish Government’s position that, on leaving the Eur...
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
21 Feb 2018
Trade Bill
We have already touched on Wallonia and the trade agreement there. Does anyone have any further reflections on what happened and the consequences of having similar powers for Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland?
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
13 Mar 2018
UK Withdrawal from the European Union (Legal Continuity) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
As I said, my amendments 69, 70 and 79 are probing amendments that the Law Society of Scotland encouraged the Parliament to consider. The minister’s response to those amendments is now a matter of record. In advance of stage 3, we will consider the minister’s remarks and wheth...
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
03 May 2018
European Union (Withdrawal) Bill
If there is agreement, that is fine, obviously. You said that you are not in the business of imposing frameworks. If that is the case, what is preventing you from giving a guarantee that you will not impose a framework?
Neil Bibby Lab Committee
25 Sep 2018
Prescription (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
We have gone over many of the arguments that we heard in relation to earlier amendments. I simply repeat the fact that these amendments were developed from the evidence that we received from the Law Society and Citizens Advice Scotland. I accept what Tom Arthur said about the ...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
13 Jun 2019
First Minister’s Question Time · Glasgow and Aberdeen Airports (Strike Action)
Hundreds of workers in my region have been forced to strike because their pay and pensions have been attacked, in violation of an Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service agreement, and strikebreaking labour is being used despite serious safety concerns. Unite repeatedly...
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 25 September 2018

25 Sep 2018 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
UK Trade Arrangements: Scotland’s Role

As we know, trade agreements are the rules that govern our economic relationships with the rest of the world. For more than 40 years, those rules have been shaped by our place in Europe and for more than 40 years, as a willing member state, we have shaped those rules.

Exiting the European Union will inevitably change our relationship with the rest of Europe and the rest of the world. However, the extent of that change remains unclear because, even now, with six months to go until exit day, no agreement has been reached on a Brexit deal or on the rules that will come to govern our relationship with the EU. As Jackie Baillie said, the Prime Minister’s Chequers deal is dead, the Cabinet has been in open revolt and no deal looks more and more likely.

However, today’s Scottish Government motion is not about the wisdom of leaving the EU or the options that will have to be decided on. It is about trying to build something constructive when it comes to international trade agreements and surely, all around the chamber, we can agree on that. I welcome the tone and the content of the motion.

The intention of the UK Government is, from March 2019 onwards, to negotiate a series of bilateral deals. However, until we know what the nature of the UK’s relationship with the EU will be, we will not know the extent to which there can be an independent UK trade policy post-Brexit, and we will not know the full impact that it will have on the economy.

The Scottish Government publication on future UK trade arrangements sets out in detail the significance of trade to the UK and Scotland. Paragraph 23 of the report spells out in sobering terms what leaving the single market and customs union could mean. It says that a World Trade Organization rules scenario would lead to loss of 8.5 per cent GDP in Scotland by 2030 and that a free-trade agreement relationship would lead to GDP being “6.1% lower by 2030”. For all those reasons, the Brexit deal matters. We need to get it right, but we should also be prepared for all eventualities.

Promising a “transparent and inclusive” independent trade policy in July, the International Trade Secretary, Liam Fox, said:

“To develop and deliver a UK trade policy that benefits business, workers and consumers across the whole of the UK we need to reflect the needs and individual circumstances of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.”

One of Labour’s six tests for any Brexit deal that the Government might come forward with is whether it delivers for all the nations and regions of the UK. We must apply that same test to any future trade agreement to which we sign up post-Brexit.

As we know, all the UK’s international trade deals are negotiated through the EU but, as the report points out:

“Losing the EU’s negotiating power, scrutiny and expertise will require a massive step change in the way the UK conducts its affairs in relation to international matters.”

Jackie Baillie and other members have said that that is a key challenge for us all—for decision makers, trade negotiators, regulators, Governments and leaders across party lines. We have to achieve a “massive step change” while ensuring that any trade arrangements are transparent, inclusive and meet the needs of the nations and regions of the UK.

Brexit is testing political conventions and orthodoxies in this country to destruction. It is time for new ways of thinking and working to emerge. We need a new mindset around how the Governments of these islands work together. It requires goodwill and co-operation. It challenges us to learn from good practice elsewhere, as well as introducing new and innovative practices of our own.

In evidence to the Finance and Constitution Committee in April, Kathleen Walker Shaw of the GMB—I declare an interest as I am a member of the GMB—outlined concerns about existing global and EU-level trade agreements:

“predominantly because of their lack of democracy, transparency and inclusiveness of stakeholders.”—[Official Report, Finance and Constitution Committee, 25 April 2018; c 3.]

We can better engage with stakeholders by giving our devolved Parliament a meaningful say, and by the UK Government accepting that the devolved Administrations are not its competitors or opponents but partners in an endeavour the like of which none of us have ever had to engage with before. To do that, we need a formal structure, clear and binding agreements, mutual respect and understanding, and parity of esteem. As Kathleen Walker Shaw also said,

“the Scottish Parliament and other devolved Administrations must have a formal and substantial say on why we are having any trade agreement, what its aims, objectives and scope are and what its mandate is.”—[Official Report, Finance and Constitution Committee, 25 April 2018; c 6.]

As Bruce Crawford said earlier, the Finance and Constitution Committee has been taking evidence on trade, and I agree with him that it has been useful for us to hear about the experience of officials and representatives of different countries. I am struck by the fact that other countries, especially those with federal or devolved structures, deliver complex trade deals that are acceptable to their nations and regions when they have a robust agreed process that is underpinned by a genuine spirit of co-operation. That could mean central Government and devolved Government agreeing a common negotiating position before entering formal trade talks. It could mean observer status for the devolved Administrations. It could even mean proper recognition for local government as a sphere of government—not just a tier—with a significant interest in our future trading relationships.

There are no easy answers. What works well in one agreement with one country will not necessarily work well in others, but surely a new framework of co-operation and understanding is a sound and legitimate basis on which to proceed. Governments and devolved Administrations will not always get everything they want. Kathleen Walker Shaw again pointed out, in relation to the Canadian provinces:

“I know that whether the provinces were able to get where they wanted to be on CETA is an open question. A lot of compromises were made ... There is no perfect model.”—[Official Report, Finance and Constitution Committee, 25 April 2018; c 10.]

Even if we do not always get what we want, let us put in place the framework that allows us to try. Let us make a complex process more transparent and inclusive, and let us make sure that it reflects the needs of our economy.

We are entering uncharted and turbulent waters. I hope that the UK Government responds positively to the motion lodged by the Scottish Government.

16:23  

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Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
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Adam Tomkins Con
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The Cabinet Secretary for Government Business and Constitutional Relations (Michael Russell) SNP
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Bruce Crawford (Stirling) (SNP) SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
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Adam Tomkins Con
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Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
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Bruce Crawford (Stirling) (SNP) SNP
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