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Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
20 Jan 2016
Fire and Rescue Services
I begin by acknowledging that the Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs was not in his post at the time when much of the arrangements for the reform of the service came into play. It therefore might be helpful for me to share some of my experience of that time. Ther...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
26 May 2011
Taking Scotland Forward
Presiding Officer, I am honoured to be given the right to speak in the Parliament today and I thank you for the opportunity. You can be assured that I will enjoy my lunch far more as a result of your timing.I congratulate the SNP on its electoral success and remind SNP members...
Graeme Pearson Lab Chamber
26 Feb 2014
Justice
I do not know whether that was wrong or right at the time; I am suggesting to the cabinet secretary that the past couple of years presented Scotland with a real opportunity to move its emergency services into the 21st century. The cross-boundary provision of control rooms woul...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
09 Jan 2014
Title Conditions (Scotland) Act 2003
I acknowledge the minister’s point about the absent member, who was a tower of strength in my time on the Justice Committee. On occasions, he was a good shield when our convener got out of hand. Our convener mentioned that this is a dry topic. My experience in two years as a ...
Graeme Pearson Lab Chamber
24 Feb 2015
Legal Writings (Counterparts and Delivery) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I agree completely. I merely remember that in a previous life I was responsible for creating documents that thousands of people had to refer to in undertaking their duties. When those documents were typewritten, any amendments to individual pages resulted in a complete reasses...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
26 Mar 2015
Police Scotland (Accountability)
I record my absolute gratitude and praise for police officers and support staff across Scotland who perform duties on behalf of the public, on behalf of my family and on behalf of me. I value the work that they do daily, which is largely unseen and largely unapplauded. Second...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
11 Jun 2015
Employee Rights and Access to Justice
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in the debate. In work, the application of employment law and the protection and promotion of workers’ rights and responsibilities are of paramount import. In that context, the right to strike is not only necessary but fundamental in ...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
02 Nov 2011
Looked-after Children
It is with trepidation and some humility that I speak in this debate. Trepidation because the subject matter is very important to us all—it is heartening to hear that we all agree on many of the main ingredients that we have discussed thus far—and humility because I bow to the...
Graeme Pearson Lab Committee
28 Feb 2012
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thanks, convener. I know that you appreciate that we are dealing with a very important issue. It deserves the time that we are allocating to it.We have spent a great deal of time talking about redundancy issues and so forth, but a major part of ACPOS’s submission is about oper...
Graeme Pearson Lab Committee
12 Jun 2012
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I am conscious that, in the committee’s discussion of amendments to the bill, we have not been particularly successful in persuading the cabinet secretary of some of the views that we have offered to him. I hope that he will see some virtue in what I have to offer in amendment...
Graeme Pearson Lab Chamber
27 Jun 2012
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
For me, the amendments that I will speak to at this time are the most important amendments in relation to democratic accountability, and they have significance for all members sitting in the chamber who are not members of the Government. The amendments go to the very heart of ...
Graeme Pearson Lab Chamber
01 Dec 2011
Criminal Law and Practice (Carloway Review)
Yes, I think that that is correct. It is a consideration that needs to be solemnly gauged in our discussions in the weeks and months ahead. We should also bear in mind that, although the recommendation is to abolish the requirement for corroboration, it is not to ban corrobora...
Graeme Pearson Lab Committee
26 Feb 2013
Purposeful Activity in Prisons Inquiry
I am conscious that we have a new chief executive, and a number of commitments have been offered to us over the past couple of evidence sessions. It would be worth while asking for a report back in nine months’ time on what the developments have been, and perhaps we should bri...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
20 Feb 2013
Historic Buildings
I congratulate Chic Brodie on securing the debate, particularly on this date. I say to those members of the public who are in the gallery for the first time that it is not unusual for George Adam to concentrate on Paisley. He never overlooks any chance to mention its name.One ...
Graeme Pearson Lab Committee
14 Jan 2014
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Cabinet secretary, you mentioned the Cadder decision, which was taken by the Supreme Court, of which Lord Hope was a member. Lord Hope gave the judgment and has recently gone public in indicating that he thought that the current Administration’s approach to corroboration and i...
Graeme Pearson Lab Chamber
01 Oct 2013
Rehabilitation of Offenders
Presumably, the behaviour of a prisoner during their time in custody would have a bearing on rehabilitation after sentence. It could be that, at the time of sentencing, a young person demonstrated themselves to be antisocial but, during their months and years in custody, repai...
Graeme Pearson Lab Chamber
11 Jun 2013
Youth Sport
Mr Keir will not be surprised to know that I have limited knowledge of that example, but I can tell him that, day and daily, schools throughout Scotland need to utilise bus companies either to play an away game or to receive a team from elsewhere for a home match. As I alluded...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
08 Oct 2014
Policing
It is with some disappointment that I feel the need to move this motion. It is my belief that the Cabinet Secretary for Justice has abandoned his responsibilities in relation to police reform. He is tired and lacking in ideas, and he gracelessly refuses to listen, leaving a pr...
Graeme Pearson Lab Chamber
11 Nov 2015
Succession (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Indeed. I accept Stewart Stevenson’s point. The Parricide Act was enacted in 1594, so it has taken us a while to reconsider the circumstances, but the decision is no less valuable for that fact. Making laws certain and allowing clarity should always be the Scottish Government...
Graeme Pearson Lab Committee
21 Jun 2011
Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Bill
I return to the issue of enforcement and the nature of the proposed legislation. In its submission, the Law Society of Scotland cites the 2009 case of Mark Harris v HMA and states:“the Appeal Court held that breach of the peace simply requires some serious disturbance to the c...
Graeme Pearson Lab Committee
21 Jun 2011
Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Bill
On the sunset clause issue, it is a matter of record that committee members, including me, were so concerned about the speed with which we were moving forward that we made representations to the convener—which she thankfully supported—on the necessity of holding these conversa...
Graeme Pearson Lab Chamber
26 May 2011
Taking Scotland Forward
The SNP has five years for intervention.The arc of prosperity has joined the promises of bullet trains between our cities and smaller class sizes—all airbrushed from history.Now, the focus is on sectarianism as the threat to Scotland’s future—a threat provided by a minority of...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
30 Jun 2011
Scotland Bill (Supreme Court)
I acknowledge the contribution of Lord Rodger of Earlsferry to the wellbeing of Scottish justice. I also acknowledge his humanity and the way in which he dealt with members of the public in the performance of his duties.This is one of the last debates before the summer recess,...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
27 Oct 2011
Scots Criminal Law (Integrity)
I thank Lord McCluskey’s group for the effort that it has made and the quality of the report that it has produced in such quick time and in unfortunate circumstances. I trust that the Government will encourage consultations on many of the recommendations that have been discuss...
Graeme Pearson Lab Chamber
12 Jan 2012
Young People (Improving Learning Outcomes)
I hear what the cabinet secretary says, but he must acknowledge that, in the few minutes in which an opportunity presents itself to members to make their views heard, there is sometimes enthusiasm to spread their knowledge and share it with him.There is no doubt that the curri...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
13 Mar 2012
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
When asked about preparations for the legislation’s implementation, the police service expressed major concern about timescales and the ability to deliver in the time available. By way of opening up the discussion, will the witnesses say something about the time that is availa...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
22 Mar 2012
Scottish Executive Question Time · Methadone Treatments
8. To ask the Scottish Executive what the average length of time and dosage is for a course of methadone. (S4O-00826)
Graeme Pearson Lab Chamber
22 Mar 2012
Scottish Executive Question Time · Methadone Treatments
The Government spends more than £28 million a year delivering methadone maintenance treatment to more than 22,000 people, many of whom can be on methadone for 10 years or longer. At the same time, residential treatment units such as Castle Craig Hospital in West Linton in my r...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
20 Jun 2012
Criminal Cases (Punishment and Review) (Scotland) Bill
I thank colleagues on the Justice Committee for the time and effort that they took to help me to understand some of the complexities of the bill. I also thank the witnesses who took the time to come to the committee and who patiently took us through the steps and explained the...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
29 Feb 2012
Human Trafficking
I declare an interest as the previous director general of the Scottish Crime and Drug Enforcement Agency, and the first law enforcement officer in Scotland to focus on human trafficking as a major problem, based on my experience elsewhere in Europe and the world.It is always m...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
27 Jun 2012
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill
I say to the previous speaker that I had hoped that the Justice Committee was already earning its keep, but we always want to work harder.The purpose of the Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill was set out in the financial memorandum, which made it clear that one of the main...
Graeme Pearson Lab Committee
06 Mar 2012
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Given that we are aiming for April 2013, is there sufficient time for the necessary recruitment and preparation to ensure that the PIRC will be in place in time?
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 May 2012
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
As a member of the Justice Committee, I am pleased to associate myself with the comments and recommendations in the report.We gathered an abundance of evidence that identified various areas in which positive decisions and sensible resolution are needed. Many of the recommendat...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
29 Mar 2012
Tribunal System
I thank the minister on two levels. First, I thank her for her fair presentation of the proposal that is set out in the consultation document on a new tribunal system for Scotland. Secondly, I thank her for offering an opportunity to David McLetchie to link his name with the c...
Graeme Pearson Lab Committee
18 Sep 2012
Defamation Bill
First of all, I acknowledge that it was David McLetchie who felt that we should examine the matter further. He would have been present this morning, but for other very pressing matters.Recent press reports seem to call into question some of the points that you have made in you...
Graeme Pearson Lab Committee
29 Jan 2013
Prison Visits
I attended Low Moss last week. It is a very modern prison; it will be a year old next month. It has 700 prisoners, which is just about full to capacity. There are nearly 120 remand prisoners; comments were made earlier about the difficulty of engaging with remand prisoners bec...
Graeme Pearson Lab Committee
29 Jan 2013
Purposeful Activity in Prison Inquiry
As I said, I was very impressed by the staff. However, my suspicion was that purposeful activity was just about occupying the day rather than having a point or an outcome. To engage prisoners with the ethos of this new life that you indicate is your vision, should it be possib...
Graeme Pearson Lab Committee
02 May 2013
Scottish Police Authority
I understand that. There is not much point in having a new police authority if it cannot make those big decisions. That is what it is all about.I challenge somewhat the nature of the intelligent customer that you talked about earlier and the need to involve the current executi...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
16 Nov 2011
Regeneration Strategy
Presiding Officer, thank you for allowing me to contribute to the debate.As a South Scotland list member, I acknowledge the contribution to the debate of my colleague across the chamber, Aileen McLeod, and I support much of what she said in her speech. I thank her for acknowle...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
07 May 2013
Fatal Road Collisions
My question is for Mr Cross. In your report, you indicate that a conflict of interest arises from time to time in relation to the enforcement and reporting agencies involved. Can you explain that conflict of interests?
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
29 Nov 2012
Remploy
First, I welcome all that the minister said in his opening speech, and I wish him every success in delivering what he can in the remaining negotiations. Secondly, I thank Dennis Robertson for setting the scene for the focus of my contribution, which seeks to remind us that we ...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
21 Mar 2013
Interests
I am a former police officer, a former member of the Scottish Police Federation and a former member of the Association of Chief Police Officers in Scotland, and I advise the private sector from time to time on the handling of information and intelligence.
Graeme Pearson Lab Committee
23 Apr 2013
Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act 2012
My letter to the convener was largely a result of the growing public debate about the controversies surrounding police enforcement of the legislation and the efficacy of the legislation. That has resulted in a substantial number of emails to me and, I gather, to other members ...
Graeme Pearson Lab Committee
04 Jun 2013
Scottish Court Service
Good morning. I want to cover a couple of areas with the Lord President and, if there is time, one area with Mr McQueen.Lord Gill, you have said that you have taken a long, hard look at the current situation and you have obviously considered the detail of the proposals. How mu...
Graeme Pearson Lab Committee
28 May 2013
Prison Healthcare
I thank the witnesses for taking the time to come and speak to us. I am glad that I gave ground to Mr White, because he saved me from saying much of what he said just now, which I have also said at previous meetings.In dealing with the issue of drug and alcohol problems, one o...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
02 May 2013
Community Justice System
I acknowledge the speeches from all members thus far and I associate myself with many of the comments that have been made. I welcome the cabinet secretary’s indication—as I understood it—that he would welcome cross-party discussions outwith the chamber to identify an appropria...
Graeme Pearson Lab Committee
19 Sep 2013
Complaints and Investigations
The point of my question is that there was always the threat that someone could have delayed dealing with something because they knew that the authority was coming along, and you could have ended up being passed a case that was unsuitable for you to handle. However, you have a...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
19 Sep 2013
First Minister’s Question Time · Policing
5. To ask the First Minister what the Scottish Government considers the impact will be on local policing of reported plans to replace local police officers with officers from other divisions on public holidays to avoid double-time payments. (S4F-01563)
Graeme Pearson Lab Chamber
06 Nov 2013
Local Police Services
I hope that, if the cabinet secretary gives me time to develop my argument, he will see where we are coming from.Seventy of the people who have been given voluntary redundancy previously delivered citations for the court, and those duties are to be passed to police officers on...
Graeme Pearson Lab Committee
29 Oct 2013
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2014-15
Okay. My other point takes me back to Audit Scotland, which did not produce a particularly pleasant picture of the justice system. One bit that stuck out significantly was the thousands—maybe tens of thousands—of cases that the police put into the system, which are then marked...
Graeme Pearson Lab Chamber
07 Nov 2013
Tribunals (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Very much so.Some of the debate in the Justice Committee indicated that there were those within the tribunal environment who believed that, through experience and time, they had come to understand what was good for us all. I think that each of us in the chamber realises that, ...
Graeme Pearson Lab Committee
19 Nov 2013
Victims and Witnesses (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 93 seeks to ensure that, at the time of sentencing in the courts, victims and their families are made aware of the earliest date of release for the prisoner.Evidence from victims and witnesses at stage 1 indicated the confusion that they faced when they heard an accu...
Graeme Pearson Lab Chamber
27 Feb 2014
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
There are several key issues. How will we protect victims, their medical histories and their private lives? How will we defend victims from hostile and inappropriate cross-examinations in the new environment? How will we decide jury verdicts? What will we do with judicial exam...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Feb 2014
Police Scotland Traffic Wardens
I thank Murdo Fraser for securing the debate. I congratulate colleagues on raising many of the issues that I would have raised, so they will be pleased to know that I will not labour those points at this time of the evening. However, I pay particular heed to Bruce Crawford and...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
26 Feb 2014
Justice
I am grateful for the opportunity to move the motion and speak in support of it. I note that the rather wordy amendment from the Government focuses on what we in the chamber have come to know as “operational outcomes” rather than the business of Government. I am sure that we w...
Graeme Pearson Lab Chamber
09 Jan 2014
Title Conditions (Scotland) Act 2003
The debate has been a useful exercise in revisiting the decisions that were made by an earlier Parliament about what has proved to be a complex area of relationships. Two points arise from our discussion this afternoon. First, the maintenance of property—houses and flats—and ...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
02 Apr 2014
Stop and Search
I rise to move the amendment in my name, which, because of the Government’s pre-emptive amendment, is unlikely to be voted on. To that extent I am disappointed. What the cabinet secretary forgot to quote in his speech was the effective oversight that my amendment seeks to pass...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
12 Jun 2014
Cashback for Communities
Scottish Labour supports the message that the profits that are created by criminal conduct across Scotland should be seized and returned to the communities from which they were stolen in the first place. That is why, at the United Kingdom level, Labour supported the introducti...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
30 Apr 2014
Historic Institutional Child Abuse
Presiding Officer, I thank you for the opportunity to bring the debate to the chamber. I welcome back the Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs, who was absent last week due to illness; it is good to have her back in the chamber. There can be no duty more important ...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
13 Mar 2013
Police Centralisation
For 38 years, officers and staff from eight police forces and, more recently, the Scottish Crime and Drugs Enforcement Agency and the Scottish Police Services Authority have served the public throughout Scotland for the most part in an exemplary and professional manner. I take...
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Meeting of the Parliament 20 January 2016

20 Jan 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Fire and Rescue Services

I begin by acknowledging that the Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs was not in his post at the time when much of the arrangements for the reform of the service came into play. It therefore might be helpful for me to share some of my experience of that time.

There is no doubt that the Scottish Government knew from the outset that £10 million was to be paid in VAT. Although, unfortunately, no business plan was provided, ministers gave an assurance that that £10 million would be recovered at some time in the future. However, I think that we knew at that time—and we know it from our experience since then—that that prediction had no basis in fact. Indeed, we are no closer to having the VAT issue resolved today than we were a decade ago, when the whole journey began.

Irrespective of that £10 million, the key issue that we are dealing with today is the pressure on the fire service from an unreasonable target being set for cuts, which ensures that the fire service has to not only pay the £10 million but find a way of replenishing savings from an ever-smaller baseline. As a result, the economies of scale have evaporated and the slimming down of so-called support services has been completed. We now have, as my colleague David Stewart said, 400 fewer full-time firefighters than in 2010 and, within that number, we have 300 fewer firefighters than in 2013.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The final item of business today is a members’ business debate on motion S4M-15036, in the name of David Stewart, on protecting front-line fire and rescue se...
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
First, I thank all the members who have stayed behind this evening to support the debate and those who have signed my motion. To those who have not signed it...
The Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs (Paul Wheelhouse) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
David Stewart Lab
I am in my last minute, but if you allow it, Presiding Officer, I will take the intervention.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Of course, in the circumstances.
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
I am very grateful to Mr Stewart for taking an intervention at this late stage. I just want to ask him whether he recognises that the Labour Party supported ...
David Stewart Lab
That point is not in dispute; the point is to get the VAT right. My colleague Rhoda Grant wrote to the Treasury, and a Treasury official responded: “In 2011...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We now move to the open debate, with speeches of four minutes. 17:17
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I begin by acknowledging that the Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs was not in his post at the time when much of the arrangements for the refor...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
First, I think that Mr Stewart said the figure was 350, rather the 400 that the member referred to, but I do not know whether I have got that right. On the ...
Graeme Pearson Lab
I do not enjoy the notion of blaming. The point is who is responsible, and the person who is responsible—or, rather, the entity that is responsible—is very f...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I did not sign the motion and I am not repenting. I do not consider myself a sinner, for several reasons. The first reason is that David Stewart said that th...
Graeme Pearson Lab
Would the member give way?
Christian Allard SNP
Yes, if the member will wait one second. The Labour motion of Mr Stewart refers to 300 fewer firefighters. The fire chief said that we could have 350 firefig...
Graeme Pearson Lab
The shortfall in the number of firefighters that we are talking about here depends on the date that one measures the various establishments. Would the member...
Christian Allard SNP
Now I am going to come to David Stewart. He tells us to repent because we are sinners. Then he tells us that one of the reasons is the VAT issue. I have the ...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
First of all, Presiding Officer, I must apologise to you and the minister, because I am due at a meeting of the cross-party group on violence against women a...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I congratulate David Stewart on securing the debate. I am not going to argue about the figures, which I was not entirely sure about. I supported the motion i...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Mary Scanlon Con
No, I will not. I suggest to Christian Allard that he read the Audit Scotland report on the issue, the figures in which have been acknowledged by the Scotti...
Mary Scanlon Con
I will give way briefly.
Christian Allard SNP
Mary Scanlon is very nice to take an intervention. She said that she signed Mr Stewart’s motion. If the VAT issue had been included in the motion, would she ...
Mary Scanlon Con
The VAT issue was well known before the police forces merged and before the fire and rescue services merged. I gave my explanation on the number of firefight...
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I just want to make a couple of points. It is good that Dave Stewart was able to secure the debate. The Scottish Fire and Rescue Service is facing huge budge...
Christian Allard SNP
I congratulate the member on participating in a second debate on the same day as she made her maiden speech. She has just congratulated Mary Scanlon. I am a ...
Lesley Brennan Lab
I was reiterating what Mary Scanlon had said about the Audit Scotland report; I was not even discussing VAT. The main issue is the £43 million-worth of cuts,...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Thank you; well done. I call on Paul Wheelhouse to wind up the debate. Minister, you have seven minutes or thereby. 17:39
The Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs (Paul Wheelhouse) SNP
I begin by saying that I whole-heartedly agree with the praise for the men and women of the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service that we have heard in this after...
Mary Scanlon Con
Will the minister take an intervention?
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
I will, briefly.