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Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Nov 2021
Social Security Benefits
The debate is welcome. It allows me to expand on the evidence that I gave this morning to the Social Justice and Social Security Committee on my proposed Scottish employment injuries advisory council bill. I am thankful that the committee accepted the statement of reasons, bu...
Mark Griffin Lab Chamber
18 Apr 2024
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
If the cabinet secretary reflects and looks back at the record, she will see that, at no point did I say that that advisory group was disbanded because the Government did not agree with its recommendations. I simply made the point that advisory groups can be disbanded if the G...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
Thank you, convener. I appreciate your welcome and the committee’s five weeks of evidence taking on the bill. I appreciate the in-depth look that you are giving it. I will go into the motivation that lies behind the bill and give the committee a flavour of why I am here in th...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
19 May 2022
Long Covid
I echo colleagues’ comments in welcoming the debate on long Covid. It is astonishing that it has taken so long for us to have this debate. Long Covid is a new, devastating and disabling disease. It is an industrial disease. As many members have mentioned, the number of peopl...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
04 Nov 2021
Proposed Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill
Thank you for inviting me to attend the committee to talk through the statement of reasons that accompanies my draft proposal. The bill proposal was lodged in response to reports that thousands of people were suffering from long Covid that they had contracted at work—most li...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 May 2023
Firefighters Memorial Day 2023
I, too, congratulate Bill Kidd on bringing this debate to the chamber to allow us to mark firefighters memorial day 2023. I echo what I think all speakers have said: this debate is particularly poignant as we remember Barry Martin. I want to thank, as the motion does, the fir...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
18 Apr 2024
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
I make a voluntary declaration of interests as a member of the Union of Shop, Distributive and Allied Workers and Unite. I am absolutely delighted to speak to the motion in my name and ask that the Parliament agrees to the general principles of the Scottish Employment Injurie...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
09 Nov 2023
Fair Work in a Wellbeing Economy
I apologise to you, Presiding Officer, to the chamber and to the cabinet secretary for missing a chunk of his speech due to my late arrival in the chamber. I was facilitating a meeting of the Minister for Public Health and Women’s Health with mothers of premature babies, who w...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
14 Mar 2023
International Long Covid Day
I welcome the debate, which marks international long Covid day, and recognise the tireless campaigning work that Jackie Baillie has done for people who are suffering with long Covid. Long Covid is a devastating disabling disease. We should also be absolutely clear about the f...
Mark Griffin Lab Chamber
18 Apr 2024
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
The bill would establish a council that would get the workers who are impacted by illnesses and injuries around the table to design the benefit. The budget to pay for addressing those conditions has been devolved from the United Kingdom Parliament to the Scottish Parliament. I...
Mark Griffin Lab Chamber
18 Apr 2024
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
I thank members from across the chamber for their contributions to the debate. I began my opening remarks by asking members not to turn their backs on the nurses, social care workers, teachers, shop workers, footballers and firefighters who are ill simply because of the job th...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
21 Sep 2021
Brain Injury in Football
I am sorry that I cannot be with everyone in the chamber for the debate. I fully support Michael Marra’s motion and welcome the opportunity to ensure that our footballers’ trauma does not go unheard. Establishing a working group is a vital step. There is no body in Scotland t...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
29 Jun 2023
Action Mesothelioma Day 2023
I, too, want to congratulate Marie McNair on bringing this timely debate to the chamber ahead of action mesothelioma day 2023 next week. I also thank her for her kind words about my private member’s bill; I look forward to working with Marie McNair and other members of the Soc...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
Yes, I saw the comments from Sally Witcher last week. She welcomed the proposal and caveated that with her thinking on whether the timing was right. For me, there are two aspects to the council. There is the council being there in advance and being able to advise the Governme...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Dec 2018
Veterans
Like Mr Corry, I declare an interest as an armed forces veteran. We welcome the debate, the work that partners across all four UK nations have undertaken in developing the veterans strategy and the consultation that the minister has started with MSPs, stakeholders and veteran...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
04 Nov 2021
Proposed Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill
I am glad to hear that your inboxes are so full, although I am sorry for your staff who are dealing with that. It shows the strength of feeling in support of the proposals. Ms Duncan-Glancy is right that the proposal will not, in itself, change any of that, but it is the firs...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
04 Nov 2021
Proposed Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill
The minister has set out that he intends to introduce legislation to establish employment injury assistance. That is obviously something that the Government has to do as a result of the Scotland Act 2016 and the Social Security (Scotland) Act 2018. What the minister has not me...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
04 Nov 2021
Proposed Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill
I am proposing that the membership of a Scottish council include representation from the trade unions. It will take primary legislation to change SCOSS’s role to mandate that it have trade union membership so that it can consider workers’ lived experience of illness and injury...
Mark Griffin Lab Chamber
18 Apr 2024
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
I am sorry, but I think that I am in my last minute. I would be happy to take another intervention in my closing speech. The time for action is now. The bill represents a crucial opportunity to deliver meaningful change. I ask the Government: if not now, when? I move, That ...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
22 May 2018
Disability Employment Gap
I am pleased that we have had an opportunity to debate how we deliver the right to work for Scotland’s disabled people. I thank Inclusion Scotland, the Multiple Sclerosis Society Scotland and others for their briefings, and I thank Disability Agenda Scotland for its “End The G...
Mark Griffin Lab Chamber
23 Dec 2020
First Minister’s Question Time · Long Covid (Support)
I have spoken to a retail worker who contracted Covid-19, was in a coma for weeks, and now has to walk with a stick and is in immense pain; I have also spoken to a social care worker who also now uses a walking stick, has never recovered her sense of taste and smell, and has b...
Mark Griffin Lab Chamber
04 May 2023
Firefighters Memorial Day 2023
The industrial injuries disablement benefit is now fully devolved, and it is entirely within the gift of the Scottish Government to set out the entitlement. Will the minister commit to looking at the particular cancers that are affecting firefighters and consider prescribing t...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
The committee will see that a lot of the legislation has been drafted as a mirror image of the legislation that created SCOSS. A lot of the membership criteria are the same—off the top of my head, I think that those are in section 97 of the bill that set up SCOSS. There is a m...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
I was talking about prescription. If the council made a recommendation on prescribing certain illnesses or injuries in certain occupations and the Government decided to accept that recommendation and implement it, which then led to a bigger call on the budget, the Government m...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
A whole range of occupations have been ignored. The Fire Brigades Union has presented really strong evidence of firefighters suffering from cancers at much earlier ages than the rest of the population because they are being exposed to contaminants. There is clear evidence that...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
No, but SCOSS makes recommendations on social security provisions and it is for the Government to decide whether to accept them on the basis of costs. You will be aware that SCOSS has made recommendations that the Government has refused to action on the basis of costs. Furthe...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
The cabinet secretary said last week that she did not know what the new benefit would look like. If the cabinet secretary herself does not know what the new benefit will look like, I would say that the Government needs expert advice, which is what the council will provide. Th...
Mark Griffin Lab Chamber
18 Apr 2024
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
Absolutely. It seems strange that we have a current UK industrial injuries system with a UK advisory council with medical experts, trade unionists and people with lived experience on it advising Government while, in devolving the system, we cut out trade unionists, workers an...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
03 Feb 2021
Universal Support for Self-Isolation
Notwithstanding the Government’s action to widen the entitlement criteria, which was announced yesterday, I welcome today’s debate and agree that the self-isolation support grants should be universal and barrier free. Today’s motion recognises “that there are many barriers to...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
08 Jun 2021
Tackling Poverty and Building a Fairer Scotland
I draw members’ attention to my entry in the register of members’ interests. It is not unreasonable to say that tackling poverty and striving to make Scotland fairer has always been a mission for the Parliament. We might not have previously declared it a national mission, but...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
26 May 2022
Social Security Benefits
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I am sorry that I cannot be in the chamber today, but I have a sick child at home. That means that I cannot take interventions, which might detract from the debate. I am also sorry because of the generous allocation of time that you have given me....
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
I might not have explained myself properly. I do not disagree with the need for employment law to be devolved, but I do not think that that is necessarily applicable to the bill. On the wider aspect, with the bill, we are seeking to set up a council that would scrutinise regu...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
05 Nov 2020
Social Security Response to Covid-19 (Inquiry)
We have been talking about what the social security system can do to respond to the pandemic in the next two years. I will talk about one form of assistance that has been devolved: industrial injuries disablement benefit. In Scotland, the benefit, which is called employment in...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
I heard the cabinet secretary’s comments about the Scottish child payment. However, since the introduction of the Scottish child payment—from the very first announcement—the consultation on employment injury assistance has been promised almost on an annual basis. The work on ...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
We were really careful about reserved and devolved issues. I absolutely would not want the legislation, if the bill was passed, to go to the Supreme Court—I do not plan on going there in my lifetime. Therefore, I was careful to make sure that the bill did not stray into the te...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
The member will know from the vote that we had in Parliament in November that there is no disagreement between me and him on devolving employment law, but we are looking specifically at the bill.
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
It is key that the council is set up through primary legislation that this Parliament passes, because that will protect its status. Even if the council makes a recommendation that a Government of whatever colour strongly disagrees with, it will not be at risk of being disbande...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
I am a bit frustrated. It feels like I have been waiting for the consultation since 2019. The Parliament and the committee have been told almost on an annual basis that the consultation will come this year. I think that the Government told the committee that it would come this...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
05 Oct 2016
Employment Services (Devolution)
Parliament will break new ground simply by taking over control of employment support services. Our beginning to take charge of the help that is provided to disabled people is unprecedented, and a social security bill being debated and passed by members here will be historic. “...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
11 Nov 2014
Armed Services Advice Project
I congratulate Christina McKelvie on securing this members’ business debate on the armed services advice project, particularly on remembrance day. I also thank Citizens Advice Scotland and Poppyscotland for the work that they do in delivering the project and for the updated re...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
22 Feb 2018
Social Security (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendments 188, 190, 27A and 30A would ensure that disability and employment injuries benefits could not be means tested by the current Government or by future Governments. That would replicate the current policy for those benefits, which are not means tested. For disability a...
Mark Griffin Lab Chamber
30 Sep 2020
Portfolio Question Time · Covid-19 (Disability Assistance Benefits)
The cabinet secretary will know that many key workers have caught Covid-19 in the workplace and that, sadly, some have died. Health workers, carers and retail and public transport workers have been—and still are—on the front line. Some are already suffering from so-called long...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
04 Nov 2021
Proposed Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill
When I raised the issue in the chamber with the First Minister, I think that I received a sympathetic response. I also flagged up to the minister the consultation response and my intention to introduce legislation, but at that point he was only two or three days into the job, ...
Mark Griffin Lab Chamber
06 Sep 2023
Portfolio Question Time · Trade Unions (Scottish Government Policy Development)
Last week, in its response in support of my bill for an employment injuries advisory council, the Fair Work Convention said that it was “pleased to see” the principle of “effective voice” underpinning the bill, which would put the voices “of trade unions at the heart of the C...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
What you describe is possible but not preferable, because it would not be independent of Government. Some of the advisers that could potentially be recruited to such an advisory group would be employed by the public sector and not directly, but indirectly, by the Government. ...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
I am going only on the agency agreements that are in place between the Government and the DWP and on the DWP’s assertion that it would not countenance a further delay, which the Government was looking for. In essence, the 2026 deadline is a hard deadline, which the DWP does no...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
I do not know what the UK Labour manifesto will contain. All that I can say is that, in the devolution to Scotland of that entitlement, I want a much stronger advisory council, with its own research power, to be in place to make that argument. As you said, changes at a UK lev...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
Absolutely. That is why schedule 3 of the bill links to the Gender Representation on Public Boards (Scotland) Act 2018. That would achieve the gender balance requirements that are crucially important to starting the work on addressing the failures of the current system when it...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
That is why we have given flexibility in the membership. We have said that there should be a range—between six and 12—to give the council the flexibility that it needs to recruit a range of members while maintaining the balance on gender and between employers and employed memb...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
As I said, under the bill, the council would have a membership of between six and 12 people. The current UK advisory council has 17 members, so the proposed council would potentially be two thirds the size of the UK advisory council. However, we would not expect every single c...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
There is a specific provision in the bill that gives the council the power to work with other bodies—including the HSE—as it sees fit. Although the HSE has not given oral evidence, it said in its written evidence that it regularly works with the Scottish Government and with ot...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
As the bill stands, and as it is set up, the council would not have the power to interfere on preventative work because of the reservations.
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
Anyone could make recommendations, but whether it would be within the council’s power to do so is a different matter. I would argue that I have been very clear about staying within the bounds of the devolution settlement; I do not want the bill’s provisions to end up before th...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
This bill, in and of itself, would not deliver a reformed benefit; it would be up to the Government to do that. However, if the Scottish Government were to consider the devolution of an inherently unfair and discriminatory system, in creating a new benefit, which you would hop...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
Absolutely. We need the membership to be clearly defined. It is important to look at the comparator body in the UK system. Although, as I said to Marie McNair, the set-up and the relationships of IIAC are not ideal, at least it has worker voices on it, and it was set up by pri...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
The estimates in the financial memorandum are just that: financial estimates. They are based on bodies of a similar size and nature that have been created. Indeed, the detailed work that we have done on the IT costs is based on similar set-up costs for the patient safety commi...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
It would depend on what research the council was carrying out. It could be looking at existing research on, say, cancers in firefighters, on which the Fire Brigades Union has already commissioned a strong body of research. For that particular work, the council could rely on ex...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
The council would purely make recommendations; it would not control the Scottish Government’s budget. It would be for the Scottish Government to decide whether to accept the recommendations and then to decide whether to find the funding. Governments make choices on priorities ...
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
That will be the choice of the Government, which can choose to change or not to change it. That is not for anyone but the Government or Parliament to decide.
Mark Griffin Lab Committee
07 Dec 2023
Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1
We modelled the information-requiring powers on those in the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. We felt that it was a good place to start. We also listed other organisations. It is important to give the council teeth so that it can go after information and fill the d...
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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 04 November 2021

04 Nov 2021 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Social Security Benefits
Griffin, Mark Lab Central Scotland Watch on SPTV

The debate is welcome. It allows me to expand on the evidence that I gave this morning to the Social Justice and Social Security Committee on my proposed Scottish employment injuries advisory council bill.

I am thankful that the committee accepted the statement of reasons, but I am even more grateful that it listened to the workers and trade unionists—to members of Unite the union, the Union of Shop, Distributive and Allied Workers, the GMB, the Community trade union, Unison, the Communication Workers Union, the Fire Brigades Union and the Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen. They wrote to demand a voice on, and a role in, the new employment injuries assistance benefit. They did so because their colleagues who have caught Covid-19 in the workplace are now no longer fit for work or because women are apparently the wrong gender for that entitlement, although it is clear that they still get ill or injured through their work. Those women do not have access to the industrial injuries disablement benefit, or their entitlement is extremely limited, because that benefit is stuck very much in the previous century.

Any proposed bill will not, in itself, give women and those with long Covid access to the new employment injuries assistance directly. The Government and the Parliament need experts who have space, tenure and independence to research the illnesses and diseases and to make recommendations based on that. However, it is inconceivable that those issues would not be considered by a body with the authority and power to consider them and to make the first steps on the road to making the entitlement fit for the 21st century.

Trade unionists and workers who get ill at work must have a mandated seat at the table of a permanent, statutory and independent employment advisory council. Their expertise and lived experience of 21st-century workplaces are vital in making proposals that will form the benefit from the very start.

This morning, I asked the committee whether, when the Parliament considers regulations for a new devolved benefit, it would accept an equalities impact assessment that said that just 6 per cent of applications would come from women. It is clear that the answer to that question is no, we absolutely would not. However, that would be the case if a lift-and-shift approach was taken. Doing so would risk embedding a system that promotes inequalities and fails to reflect modern Scotland.

I thank the GMB women’s campaign unit, Engender, Close the Gap and Professor Andrew Watterson for their substantial insights on the issue of women’s health and safety at work. Currently, women have little access to the Westminster benefit because they have barely any entitlement to it. It is a benefit for the injuries and diseases that men got in workplaces that they predominantly worked in during the previous century. Cleaners with respiratory and skin diseases are not recognised by the current scheme, and breast cancer that is caused by shift work—that is the top occupational cancer in women—is not recognised. Even asbestos-related ovarian cancer, which is the most common gynaecological cancer in the UK, is not recognised. Women are missing from that scheme.

Care workers wrote to the committee to say that they risk injury at work daily. They have musculoskeletal disorders in the neck and upper limbs and injuries that are ignored by employers and the outdated UK benefit system.

Changes will not happen overnight, of course, but we need a system to do the work and consider that change. We do not currently have that in Scotland. New data and analysis and broad expertise and testimony will be needed to make the case for change.

I am grateful to the Association of Personal Injury Lawyers, Thompsons Solicitors, the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents and the British Occupational Hygiene Society, which offered their support and insights.

The committee also heard from people who have long Covid or who have colleagues with long Covid, who likely caught that through the course of their work. The impetus for my bill proposal was in response to their experience. Should people who contracted Covid at work not have access to a newly devolved benefit? Workers in health, social care, retail and public transport talk about how they became so severely ill that long Covid was impacting their ability to continue to do their work in the jobs that they loved and about how something should be done to support them.

However, in March this year, the UK Industrial Injuries Advisory Council refused to recognise Covid in that context. That exposes the risk to our social security system in deferring to, and requesting advice from, a UK council over which the Scottish ministers have no power. There has, therefore, been less progress on Scottish benefits, and those key workers whom we depended on and rightly applauded throughout the pandemic have been offered no access to the industrial injuries benefit.

A Scottish council with powers to commission research and make recommendations on how to support people who have caught Covid at work could offer hope that the new benefit will give people the access to social security that they are so desperately lacking under the UK entitlement. In the coming weeks, I will lodge my final proposal for a statutory Scottish employment injuries advisory council that can research, shape and scrutinise the new benefit. We need to ensure that workers and trade unionists who are injured in the course of their employment, especially women and those with long Covid, are at the heart of that council.

When it comes to accessing Scottish social security benefits, I hope to work closely with the cabinet secretary, the minister, the Social Justice and Social Security Committee and members on all sides of the chamber to ensure that there is full and equal access to a new form of employment injuries assistance that is fit for the 21st century.

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