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The Convener Lab Committee
26 Mar 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
We move to groups 3 and 6. Where it is appropriate, the promoter may wish to refer to evidence that has been provided earlier in the session if a point has already been covered and the specific concerns addressed, as that will avoid unnecessary repetition. Where a group does n...
The Convener Lab Committee
23 Apr 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
I will ask Ms Klein to respond; I was just asking whether group 3 had anything else to say. I ask Ms Klein to take in turn each issue that she wishes to address. It is entirely up to you whether you deal with every issue or just parts of each issue.
The Convener Lab Committee
26 Mar 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
Thank you very much. Does Beverley Klein have any points to raise that have not already been covered by Ms Douglas?
The Convener Lab Committee
26 Mar 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
You have heard the council’s response, Ms Klein.
The Convener Lab Committee
23 Apr 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
Under item 2, we will hear oral evidence. As I said at the previous meeting, I remind all witnesses that we already have the content of all objections and the supplementary written evidence, and we have considered a substantial amount of evidence on a number of issues that hav...
The Convener Lab Committee
23 Apr 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
Ms Klein, do you have any more questions on this area?
The Convener Lab Committee
23 Apr 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
Right. I understand that you wanted to make that point, Ms Klein, so that is why I let you make that point about the loss of park. You do not want the school at Portobello park and therefore you would have the park. You have addressed that point. Do you have anything specific ...
The Convener Lab Committee
23 Apr 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
Thank you. That would address Ms Klein’s questions. We move now to category 2, which covers loss of view, traffic and road safety issues, and environmental impact. Bill Flockhart was previously identified as speaking for group 3 on category 2. Mr Flockhart, do you have any co...
The Convener Lab Committee
23 Apr 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
Just a minute, Mr Strachan. Ms Klein, if you are not making a statement, I will give the promoter a chance to make a statement on the issues. If you have a statement, I suggest that you make it. I will give you time to ask questions.
The Convener Lab Committee
23 Apr 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
Ms Klein, do you have your questions?
The Convener Lab Committee
23 Apr 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
I am sorry, Mr MacIntyre. What is the purpose of the questioning, Ms Klein?
The Convener Lab Committee
23 Apr 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
Ms Klein.
The Convener Lab Committee
23 Apr 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
Ms Klein, you have to help the committee. We do not understand why you are asking that question. Can you give me more information as to why that question is being asked? We are talking about the consultation process—I accept that—and we are looking at new evidence, not things ...
The Convener Lab Committee
23 Apr 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
That would be helpful. I am sorry, Ms Klein.
The Convener Lab Committee
23 Apr 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
I am sorry, Ms Klein, but I have to suspend the meeting for five minutes, because a member desperately has to leave. 10:47 Meeting suspended. 10:53 On resuming—
The Convener Lab Committee
23 Apr 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
We will recommence. I apologise for stopping you as you were speaking, Ms Klein. We will go back to your comments.
The Convener Lab Committee
23 Apr 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
Are there any further questions on those categories, either from Ms Klein or from the rest of the witnesses?
The Convener Lab Committee
23 Apr 2014
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
Thank you, Mr Kilkerr. I call Ms Klein.
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City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill Committee 26 March 2014

26 Mar 2014 · S4 · City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill Committee
Item of business
City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill: Consideration Stage
We move to groups 3 and 6. Where it is appropriate, the promoter may wish to refer to evidence that has been provided earlier in the session if a point has already been covered and the specific concerns addressed, as that will avoid unnecessary repetition. Where a group does not wish to address a specific topic, I ask witnesses to indicate their intention at the start of the consideration of the relevant category; the promoter will still have the opportunity to comment if they so wish.From group 3, I welcome the lead objector David Kilkerr, and Jean Douglas and Bill Flockhart. From group 6, I welcome Beverley Klein. I ask David Kilkerr and Beverley Klein as the lead objectors in groups 3 and 6 to provide brief introductory remarks on behalf of their respective groups.

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The Convener (Siobhan McMahon) Lab
Good morning, and welcome to the fourth meeting in 2014 of the City of Edinburgh Council (Portobello Park) Bill Committee. I remind members, witnesses and th...
Archie Burns
The clerk told us that more than one person could speak on each issue. Will you clarify the position?
The Convener Lab
We prefer that only one person speaks to an issue.
Archie Burns
That is a preference rather than an instruction.
The Convener Lab
If you have an additional point to make that has not been raised, I will allow time for that, but in order that we get through all the evidence, I ask that y...
Jennifer Peters
I am here to represent the 303 formal objectors to the private bill who live around the park and who benefit from its existence. There are many more who obje...
The Convener Lab
Thank you. I ask Gillian Dunn to make her introductory remarks.
Gillian Dunn
Good morning. I am the lead objector for group 4. I am a Portobello resident and my teenage son attends Portobello high school. I am also a member of the sch...
The Convener Lab
Sorry, but may I interrupt you there? I really do not think that that is appropriate. It is not in our remit—
Gillian Dunn
Okay. I just want to say that it is against that background of intimidation, bullying and general undermining that we speak today.
The Convener Lab
That is fine. Thank you.I invite the promoter to make any opening remarks.
Billy MacIntyre (City of Edinburgh Council)
Good morning, convener. You introduced us, so I will not take up time doing that again. First, I thank the committee for giving us the opportunity to attend ...
The Convener Lab
Thank you. We move to the first category of objections. I invite the spokesperson for group 2 to speak to the first set of issues: the loss of amenity and us...
Jennifer Peters
The City of Edinburgh Council’s open space action plan, which supports its open space strategy, defines Portobello park as“Large open space not ... meeting s...
The Convener Lab
Thank you. I invite someone from group 4 to cover any points that have not already been addressed.
Stephen Carr
Good morning. My name is Stephen Carr and I have lived in Portobello, about a mile from the park, for five years. I will cover objections concerning the loss...
The Convener Lab
Thank you, Mr Carr. I now invite a spokesperson from group 2 to speak on the second set of issues, which is the social, environmental and financial impact.
Gillian Dunn
Excuse me, but Dr McCulloch would like to speak on the health issues. We were told that that would be acceptable, if we are still on category 1.
The Convener Lab
Yes. I will allow him in, but I refer you back to what I said, which was to invite “a spokesperson from group 4”—one spokesperson.
Gillian Dunn
So—
The Convener Lab
I said“I now invite a spokesperson from group 4”—which is your group—to cover any points that were not already addressed, which is when Mr Carr spoke. “A spo...
Dr Gordon McCulloch
I will try to be concise. My name is Gordon McCulloch, and until recently I was a general practitioner in Portobello where, for 25 years, I cared for 5,000 p...
The Convener Lab
I am sorry. Can I interrupt? Just speak on Portobello park, please. You are obviously making an interesting point, but you should speak specifically on the p...
Dr McCulloch
I am certainly going to come to that.
The Convener Lab
I would like you to come to it now, please.
Dr McCulloch
I am trying to make the point. Point 1 is that green space is good for health and destruction of green space is bad for health. Am I allowed to make that point?
The Convener Lab
You can make the point, but you do not need to talk about the 1800s all the way through to now to make it.
Dr McCulloch
I am sorry, but I am talking about the human intuition of green space, which I think is a reasonable point.
The Convener Lab
It is if you can be concise.
Dr McCulloch
I am now going to come on to a summary of my submission.