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Siobhan McMahon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
15 Mar 2016
Forth Road Bridge Inquiry
I thank the team of Presiding Officers for their understanding this afternoon. I also thank the convener, Jim Eadie, the other members of the committee and the clerks to the committee for their forbearance over the past few months. Although I am a member of the committee, I mi...
Siobhan McMahon Lab Chamber
15 Mar 2016
Forth Road Bridge Inquiry
The minister’s comments reassure me, but the report is based on evidence that we heard from more than one source, so I am not reassured as to why some people say one thing and the minister says another. I totally accept what the minister says this afternoon, but that is not wh...
Siobhan McMahon Lab Chamber
15 Mar 2016
Forth Road Bridge Inquiry
I am just getting to the point that you made earlier, minister, if you can hold on for two seconds. The committee has requested that the Scottish Government confirms who is ultimately responsible for making the decision to close the bridge, and provides details of the protoco...
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
That explains that point. In 2014-15, the capital money went down to £1.7 million. Since, as we have discussed, the bridge is older, the traffic flow continues to increase and the tonnage and HGV numbers have increased, it seems odd that the capital grant to FETA is £1.7 mil...
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
That was helpful. Thank you very much. To return to the programme for the maintenance and the upgrading work on the bridge, what is the year-on-year budget for that work? Can it be fully funded by Transport Scotland?
Siobhan McMahon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
03 Feb 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
In your experience of your bridge, how involved would the board be in accessing money in order to prioritise work?
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
03 Feb 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
Is that your experience of your bridge?
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
16 Sep 2015
Forth Replacement Crossing (Project Team Update)
It was mentioned in the opening statement that 1,266 employees are currently working on the bridge, but Transport Scotland’s most recent update does not include any information on the number of apprentices and professional trainees who are working on the project. I am wonderin...
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
16 Dec 2015
Forth Road Bridge Closure
I agree with everything that has been said.
Siobhan McMahon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
I would like to you clarify something, Mr Hornby. We are talking about one pin. You said that because of the way that it had been designed, it was not possible to see it, but that because of the way it has been repaired, it will now be possible to see it. Is that just the case...
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
To your knowledge, is that planned?
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
You talked about the phase 1 cost of £5 million, but you were unsure of the cost of the next phase. Will the work be covered by that cost?
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
When you have the costs, will you provide them to the convener?
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
Mr Lees, you mentioned the £10.5 million toll income. The figures from the FETA board on the grant funding after the tolls show that, in 2007-08, capital and revenue totalled £8 million. Could you explain that? 12:00
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
No, 2007-08. The tolls had just come to an end, and what I am trying to get to is whether revenue from the tolls was still coming in or whether, for that year, FETA simply received £8 million in grant funding.
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
Sorry, it was 2007-08.
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
So the £8 million would have been on top of the toll revenue, is that correct?
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
The £8 million that was given in grant funding to FETA—£4.5 million capital and £3.5 million revenue.
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
You can call me whatever. It is McMahon, but I answer to anything.
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
Do not worry.
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
I presume that that would have been normal practice?
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
We have spoken at length about how FETA came to prioritise works, so you do not have to go back over that, but do you use a similar process or is it an entirely different process?
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
Have the projects that FETA established in its capital plan been adopted or did you start from scratch?
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
I presume—you can correct me if I am wrong—that you would not adopt everything, because no one would. You would look at your own priorities to see how they are going. In your own plans for the year, regardless of the unfortunate position that you were left in at the end of las...
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
20 Jan 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
But they were not. When you bid for the contract that you took over, you would have talked about works to be done when you got the contract. You would have identified your priorities and that was not one of them.
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
03 Feb 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
I suppose that, in that example, if there was critical work and the budget had not been guaranteed, that would be a resigning matter, as Mr Hopewell said. When there are people who oversee the board, if the budget is not allocated for safety-critical work that comes up becaus...
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
03 Feb 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
What would happen if it was a Government matter?
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
03 Feb 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
Would local authorities be involved in that at any point?
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
03 Feb 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
I was going to come on to that. How was that work budgeted for or prioritised at the beginning? Who were the partners?
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
03 Feb 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
It is certainly complicated.
Siobhan McMahon Lab Committee
03 Feb 2016
Forth Road Bridge Closure
That is helpful. Thank you.
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 15 March 2016

15 Mar 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Forth Road Bridge Inquiry

I thank the team of Presiding Officers for their understanding this afternoon. I also thank the convener, Jim Eadie, the other members of the committee and the clerks to the committee for their forbearance over the past few months. Although I am a member of the committee, I missed several of the evidence-taking sessions due to severe morning sickness. I appreciate the patience of the convener and members with my situation. I can honestly say that I would rather have been with them on those mornings.

The inquiry focused on the closure of the Forth road bridge to all traffic on public safety grounds on 4 December due to the discovery of steelwork defects in a support beam. The inquiry did not look at the effect that the closure had on commuters across Scotland. The decision to omit that detail was difficult, because it was a significant issue for many, but, given the limited timescale available to the inquiry, it was not possible to look at the many effects that resulted from the closure of the bridge. However, I believe that it is important that the next committee dealing with transport and infrastructure looks into that issue.

As a member representing Central Scotland, I know that the impact of the bridge closure was acutely felt in Falkirk, because traffic was diverted through it and public transport was diverted away from it. I also know that constituents travelling from their homes in Lanarkshire by car took an average of two hours to get to work in Dunfermline, due to the traffic on all other routes. That journey should take around an hour. Of course, the closure of the bridge was necessary, but we should not forget the impact of that decision on individuals trying to get to their work or their home. Therefore, a wide-ranging inquiry is needed.

Readers of the report already commissioned will see that it was not initially clear why the member failed. We heard from Amey that the truss end link failure was caused by fatigue failure. When that was confirmed, further analysis was carried out to try to gain an understanding of how the member could have been subjected to such fatigue loading. Richard Hornby, Director of Arup, told the committee how a fatigue failure is likely to occur. He said that initially it would have been a very small crack that would have been undetectable in an inspection. It would have grown gradually at first but then quicker, and would probably have taken only a matter of months to grow from a crack that was visually undetectable to something that had totally failed.

In his evidence to the committee, Mr Hornby commented on the difficulty of seeing the pins at the truss end links, due to the design that was used on the Forth road bridge. That caused me a great deal of concern, as we were talking about the north side of the bridge, so I asked for clarification. I asked whether it would be possible to see the pin once the repair was carried out, and whether the other pins would be replaced so that all the pins on the bridge were visible. Mr Hornby replied:

“My recommendation would be that all the linkages be replaced, because one has shown itself to be time-served. All the others are ticking time bombs, to a greater or lesser extent; they should all be repaired. The best solution having been worked out for that one location, it should be implemented on all eight corners.”—[Official Report, Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee, 20 January 2016; c 30-1.]

We know that work had to be carried out on the north and south corners, and I therefore hope that all the pins are now visible, as recommended by Mr Hornby. If there is a lesson to learn from the recent safety concerns about the bridge, it is to listen to the advice that we are given and to act on that advice.

The committee also reported its concerns regarding the decision-making process in an emergency. We heard from three bridgemasters for similar bridges in the UK. They have full control over whether their bridges close when an emergency occurs. Although I agree that the decision to close the Forth road bridge was correct, there was a time delay of five hours between Amey’s recommendation that the Forth road bridge be closed, and the decision—taken at a meeting with ministers—to close it.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15904, in the name of Jim Eadie, on the report entitled, “Inquiry into the circumstances surrounding the ...
Adam Ingram (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) SNP
Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. On behalf of the Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee, I am pleased to open the debate on the committee’s...
The Minister for Transport and Islands (Derek Mackay) SNP
I confirm, for accuracy, that it is the case that, at any point, Amey—the operating company—can close the bridge for an emergency at a moment’s notice, witho...
Adam Ingram SNP
I thank the minister for that helpful intervention. As part of its inquiry, the committee was keen to establish whether the defect that led to the closure—a...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you. Mr Ingram, I thank you for your service to the Parliament as a member of the Scottish Parliament, a committee member and a minister, over the pas...
The Minister for Transport and Islands (Derek Mackay) SNP
On behalf of the Government, I concur with the Presiding Officer in her praise of Adam Ingram for his remarkable work as a member of the Scottish Parliament,...
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP) SNP
When the minister talks about priorities, is the top priority the safety of the users of the bridge at all times?
Derek Mackay SNP
Of course it is. Safety is of paramount importance—it is the number 1 priority before, during and after all such works and in all other interventions. That a...
Alex Rowley (Cowdenbeath) (Lab) Lab
I, too, thank Jim Eadie and the Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee for producing the report. It was important that the committee considered the ...
Clare Adamson (Central Scotland) (SNP) SNP
While we can say “what if” and talk about what might have been, the scoping of the truss end link project had not been done. There is no guarantee that the r...
Alex Rowley Lab
I accept that there are what ifs. The conclusion that I draw is that FETA intended to have the work done. As a result of cuts in budget, FETA did not do the ...
Derek Mackay SNP
I am sure that the member is aware, from having read the report and understood the indicative capital programme, that paint jobs, landscaping and vehicle rep...
Alex Rowley Lab
The committee report is there and speaks for itself. The evidence speaks for itself and will allow people to draw their own conclusions. Given the time that...
Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
There are many concepts for which there is no word or phrase in the English language. We usually overcome that by borrowing from the French, but there is one...
Derek Mackay SNP
I hope that I can further reassure the member with the example of the cable bolts issue. In 2012, money was requested to address the emerging concern about t...
Alex Johnstone Con
The minister is convinced that that is how the system works and I am sure that it is. The problem is that there was a mismatch of expectations on both sides ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
We now move to the open debate. 15:32
Mike MacKenzie (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
Presiding Officer, I have a confession to make: I expected the Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee’s investigation into the Forth bridge closure ...
Cara Hilton (Dunfermline) (Lab) Lab
The Forth road bridge is one of the most important transport links in Scotland and it is crucial to Fife’s economy. More than 70,000 vehicles cross the bridg...
Derek Mackay SNP
Would the member have found it helpful to find out more about the travel plans that we put in place if she had attended any of the briefing sessions that I o...
Cara Hilton Lab
Unfortunately, I was not able to attend the briefing sessions that Derek Mackay mentions. On one of the days that a briefing was offered, I was out meeting s...
Derek Mackay SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Cara Hilton Lab
No, I have no time—sorry. I have no doubt that the decision by FETA to reprioritise projects within its capital plan, including the work to replace the trus...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Order.
Cara Hilton Lab
I am glad that the minister laughs. That is going to be a devastating blow to the local community. It is vital that plans are brought forward to link Kincard...
Derek Mackay SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Cara Hilton Lab
I am sorry; I am running out of time. I am disappointed in the report. It will disappoint the businesses and commuters in my constituency, who suffered not ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Minister.
Cara Hilton Lab
The SNP took a gamble and thousands of Fife commuters, residents and businesses have been left to pay the price.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
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