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Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
During stage 1, I strongly urged the Scottish Government to go further on funeral poverty than its current commitment, because grieving families on low incomes need action now. I welcome the Scottish Government’s announcement that it will host the first national conference on...
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
22 Mar 2016
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill
As many members have said, the bill covers many sensitive topics. I have focused on funeral poverty because of my experience as a councillor and, as I mentioned at a previous stage, because of a close friend’s experience. Empathy has been mentioned a few times; politicians oug...
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
16 Mar 2016
Scotland Bill
It is a great honour to speak in this debate and to follow many great parliamentarians who have shaped this place over the past 17 years, and also to speak in this debate as someone who has followed this process not as a parliamentarian but as an ordinary punter and a local co...
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
11 Feb 2016
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Very few of us plan and discuss our intentions for when we pass on or, importantly, how we will pay for the arrangements. My own parents are an exception—they have even picked their hymns. They were concerned about the cost of their funerals, and they bought funeral plans in 2...
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
22 Mar 2016
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
When I moved an amendment identical to amendment 1 at stage 2, the minister said: “I support the principle behind the amendment.” Therefore, it is really welcome that the Government will support amendment 1. The minister also said: “Funeral costs have been debated repeate...
Lesley Brennan Lab Chamber
22 Mar 2016
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I thank the Government for agreeing to support amendment 1. We need to recognise that this is the start of the process of eradicating funeral poverty in Scotland. During stage 2, I recognised that power over social fund funeral payments and other consumer protection measures w...
Lesley Brennan Lab Committee
09 Mar 2016
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
It is disappointing that the minister is not willing to support amendment 146. When I went through the issues with the legal team, we were very aware of the Parliament’s remit and the time constraints on it. However, a large number of respondents to the consultation really wan...
Lesley Brennan (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
15 Mar 2016
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill: After Stage 2
It is important to note that the Government’s change from applying the scheme to the funeral directors’ premises to their businesses is a welcome one. On the power, I think that I would be more comfortable with an enhanced form of affirmative procedure.
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Committee

Local Government and Regeneration Committee 09 March 2016

09 Mar 2016 · S4 · Local Government and Regeneration Committee
Item of business
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Brennan, Lesley Lab North East Scotland Watch on SPTV
During stage 1, I strongly urged the Scottish Government to go further on funeral poverty than its current commitment, because grieving families on low incomes need action now. I welcome the Scottish Government’s announcement that it will host the first national conference on tackling funeral poverty. I accept that there is a timing issue in relation to the Scotland Bill, but the Government’s amendments could have gone further on funeral costs. I lodged amendment 146 so that we can start the process of addressing funeral costs. I have experience of people seeking help when they are in critical need, and I hope that the committee will support amendment 146, given the cradle-to-grave philosophy of the welfare state and in light of rising funeral costs and our ageing population. Academics Dr Christine Valentine and Dr Kate Woodthorpe, of the centre for death and society at the University of Bath, said in their paper in Social Policy & Administration in 2014: “funeral costs may impose considerable financial burden on those left behind ... This burden not only reflects that funeral costs are subject to market forces, but also that bereavement, in itself, may cause financial hardship.” They went on to say, in relation to social fund funeral payments: “the process of applying for a FP was uncertain and complicated, due to confusion around eligibility, the way in which familial relationships were assessed, and how decisions regarding responsibility for funeral costs were made. As a result, FP claimants were often left feeling frustrated, with an increased sense of shame for being unable to afford the funeral.” Research suggests that for 55 per cent of claimants who receive a funeral payment, the award falls substantially short of the amount that is required to meet the cost of the funeral. Scottish Government data show that the typical award in 2014-15 was approximately £1,300, whereas the average cost of a funeral in the same year was £3,500. The situation is compounded by the perception of death as a private and highly individual event and the lack of a widespread culture of preparing for death. The findings have important implications for existing and future demand for public health funerals, which are the basic funerals that local authorities have a statutory duty to provide, under the National Assistance Act 1948, in circumstances in which no one is willing or able to organise and pay for an individual’s funeral. There are on-going issues with funeral payments, and there is concern that local authorities will be required to provide more public health funerals as the number of deaths per year increases. The issue needs to be resolved, and I hope that in the next parliamentary session the Parliament will address funeral payments. In the meantime, the bill presents an opportunity to start to address the issue. Amendment 146 would provide that “The Scottish Ministers may publish guidance on the costs associated with making arrangements for a funeral”, which “may in particular cover the desirability of such costs being affordable.” Before issuing such guidance, the Scottish ministers would have to consult burial authorities, cremation authorities, funeral directors and “any other persons they consider appropriate.” I hope that the committee will think that amendment 146 is reasonable, given that it is similar in structure to the provision in section 20 of the Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014. I hope that members will support amendment 146 and, in so doing, take the first step on the path to eradicating funeral poverty. I move amendment 146.

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The Convener SNP
We move to our first substantive item. Item 2 is stage 2 consideration of the Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill. I welcome back to the committee the Mini...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 2, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 3 to 7, 16 to 25, 56, 134, 139 and 140.
The Minister for Public Health (Maureen Watt) SNP
Good morning, members. Amendment 2 ensures that the bill will apply to burial grounds that are no longer actively used for burial. That will mean, for examp...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 8, in the name of the minister is grouped with amendments 10, 32, 44, 70, 74, 110, 126, 127 and 142 to 144. 09:45
Maureen Watt SNP
Amendments 8, 10, 32, 44, 70, 74, 110 and 126 are minor drafting amendments that add the word “or” to various sections of the bill that confer powers to make...
The Convener SNP
Members have no comments. Minister, do you wish to wind up?
Maureen Watt SNP
No. Amendment 8 agreed to.
The Convener SNP
Amendment 9, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 11, 12, 29, 40, 45, 46, 53, 65, 71, 75, 76, 82, 88 and 122.
Maureen Watt SNP
The amendments in this group relate to offences. Many of the amendments have been lodged in response to concerns that were raised at stage 1 about the creati...
The Convener SNP
No other member has indicated that they wish to speak. Minister, do you wish to wind up?
Maureen Watt SNP
No. Amendment 9 agreed to. Section 8, as amended, agreed to. Section 9 agreed to. Section 10—Burial register Amendments 10 to 12 moved—Maureen Watt—an...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 13, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 14, 15, 26 to 28, 36 to 38, 52, 64, 77 to 79, 128, 136, 138 and 141.
Maureen Watt SNP
Amendments 13 and 14 allow local authorities to charge for access to the burial register and to charge for the provision of extracts from the register. That ...
The Convener SNP
If no one else wishes to enter the debate, does the minister wish to forgo her right to sum up?
Maureen Watt SNP
Yes. Amendment 13 agreed to. Amendments 14 and 15 moved—Maureen Watt—and agreed to. Section 10, as amended, agreed to. Section 11 agreed to. Section 12—...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 30, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 91 and 123 to 125. 10:00
Maureen Watt SNP
The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee recommended that codes of practice that are issued under the bill should be approved by the Scottish Parliament...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 31, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 41, 42, 89, 145 and 90.
Maureen Watt SNP
The amendments in this group relate to the charging of fees relating to burial and cremation by local authorities, including placing duties on local authorit...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 33, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 34, 35, 39, 129 and 133.
Maureen Watt SNP
Amendments 33 to 35 relate to the private burial of the remains of a pregnancy loss. The effect of the amendments is to exclude such a burial from the requir...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 43, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 47 to 51.
Maureen Watt SNP
Applications for routine exhumation are being removed from the court process by the bill, although appeals about decisions will still be heard by the sheriff...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 54, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 55 and 57 to 63.
Maureen Watt SNP
The amendments in this group make various changes and clarifications for the process of restoring lairs to use. Amendment 54 sets out the initial test that b...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 66, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 67 to 69, 72, 73, 80, 81, 83 to 87, 131 and 135.
Maureen Watt SNP
Amendments 66 to 69, 72, 73, 80, 81 and 83 to 87 make various changes to the responsibilities of cremation authorities. Amendment 66 enables a local authori...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 1, in the name of John Wilson, is in a group on its own.
John Wilson (Central Scotland) (Ind) Ind
Amendment 1 arose from discussions about the Cremation Act 1902 when the committee took evidence from witnesses. We learned that the Government has not taken...
The Convener SNP
No one else wishes to enter the debate on this amendment but, before calling the minister, I ask her to give an indication of whether there has been any disc...