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Cameron Buchanan Con Chamber
23 Apr 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Yes, I know that—thank you very much. Making everyone who wants to own or use an airgun apply for a licence is certainly not targeted. Why should innocent users who want to shoot for sport be forced to go through a cumbersome licensing process that charges for the privilege? ...
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
27 May 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 91 would leave out section 60 totally, which would mean that a licensing authority would not be able to refuse a private hire car licence application on the grounds of overprovision. Allowing a licensing authority to refuse a private hire car licence application on t...
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Jun 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
On amendment 5, I can understand the desire to promote sensible social activities, but does Patrick Harvie not consider that the aim of “promoting social and cultural life” is already achieved by adherence to the current licensing objectives on the public’s behalf? Licensin...
Cameron Buchanan Con Chamber
25 Jun 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill
The misuse of air weapons is confined to a tiny minority of users, as recently published statistics on recorded crimes in Scotland involving firearms for 2013-14 have confirmed. On a side note, it is welcome that the Scottish Government finally changed its initial decision to ...
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
18 Feb 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I want to take up the issue of pedicabs, without going into too much detail. Who are you licensing? Are you licensing the cab or the driver? Are there many problems with them? They seem to be prevalent in Edinburgh; are they prevalent in other cities? The committee has not dea...
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
25 Feb 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
There is a certain logic to having the same licensing regime. Apparently—I emphasise the word “apparently”; it is what we were told—sexual entertainment or strip clubs make real money only when they sell alcohol, which suggests that the licensing regime should be the same.
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
23 Apr 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill covers a wide range of matters. As such, consideration of a broad range of principles is required, and I will touch on some of them. Before I venture into the specific details, I will first set out two overarching principles that ...
Cameron Buchanan Con Chamber
23 Apr 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Is there any evidence that licensing will reduce those instances? I am not sure about that. Some people will want to intervene but, at any rate, criminal misuse of airguns should be tackled whether or not the levels of misuse are falling. As I said, I agree with the point, but...
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con Committee
20 May 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 82 seeks to remove section 54(2)(a), which would amend section 7(2) of the 2005 act to say that a licensing board “may determine that the whole of the Board’s area is a locality”. That is far too restrictive, because it would allow one locality to be Edinburgh, for...
Cameron Buchanan Con Chamber
25 Jun 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The amendments make it clear that if a licensing authority wishes to refuse a private car hire licence solely on the ground of overprovision, it must prove that there is, or would be, overprovision. I consider strongly that refusing a private hire car licence solely on the gr...
Cameron Buchanan Con Chamber
25 Jun 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Furthermore, restricting competition would act against the interests of consumers by keeping prices higher than they should be. Some people may prefer the possibility that they will pay a little extra to be driven by someone with extensive local knowledge who does not need t...
Cameron Buchanan Con Chamber
25 Jun 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill
Those things are plainly not in Scottish consumers’ best interests. There are some aspects of the bill that we agree with and that could be beneficial. The problem is that they are embedded within a bill of many parts that includes aspects that we cannot agree with. The welc...
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
19 Nov 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Sporting activities are affected, and we have received an interesting submission from Scottish tetrathlon, which states: “The majority of our members are under 17 and as such the air weapons licensing systems would have a huge effect on them. If however we were allowed to bec...
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
14 Jan 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I seek some clarification from Professor Hubbard. In England and Wales, is the licensing for theatre performance the same as that for sexual entertainment? You said that things in that respect were rather loosely worded.
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con Committee
21 Jan 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Do you consider that the underlying reasons underpinning the need for the licensing of taxis and private hire cars are necessary? You said in your submission that we should probably recast the legislation. Does that mean that we should abandon the proposals that are before us ...
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
20 May 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 83 is technical, and relates to amendment 84, which seeks to reduce the time for which someone who has had their licence revoked for any reason has to wait to reapply, from five years to three years. The amendment relates in many ways to amendments 53 and 54. I welco...
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
27 May 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 92 refers to section 61 but also to section 60. The amendment would prevent licensing authorities from being able to require testing of applicants for private hire vehicle licences. Technology now allows drivers to efficiently navigate without extensive knowledge, a...
Cameron Buchanan Con Chamber
25 Jun 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 17 would prevent licensing authorities from requiring testing of the navigational knowledge of applicants for a private hire car driver licence, although it would allow other forms of background checks or testing. Satellite navigation now allows drivers to navigate ...
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con Chamber
25 Jun 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill
The Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill has drawn out areas of both consensus and contention, as today’s debate has shown. As I have commented before, legislation should be passed only when it is targeted and when it acts effectively in the public’s best interests. Where...
Cameron Buchanan Con Chamber
25 Jun 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill
What evidence do we have that a licensing regime will prevent deaths? I cannot see it. I do not think it will make any difference; I think that those people will go under cover. Interruption.
Cameron Buchanan Con Chamber
06 Feb 2014
General Question Time · Police Scotland (Meetings)
The decision that was taken this week by the City of Edinburgh Council to suspend its licensing regime for saunas has involved work with partner agencies to ensure the safety of those who work in saunas and a number of court actions against the council. Does the cabinet secret...
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con Committee
19 Nov 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am an MSP for Lothian.
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
19 Nov 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
What are joules? I do not quite understand. Can you explain that to me, please?
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
19 Nov 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
What do you think about the use of the word “appropriate” in relation to the number of sexual entertainment clubs? They are going to exist, but how do you define “appropriate” in terms of areas or numbers?
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
19 Nov 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I do not disagree with that, but I think that it is unrealistic to say that the number is going to be zero. Realistically, the choice must be left to local authorities, must it not?
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
19 Nov 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
What about underage girls or boys? Is there any way that we can legislate with regard to under-18s or over-18s? Surely that is part of the problem, too.
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
19 Nov 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Can I raise another brief point, convener?
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
19 Nov 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
In Austria, this kind of entertainment is licensed in some areas and not in others, and people can choose to go to those areas. The same could happen in Scotland. If Glasgow did not want such clubs but East Renfrewshire did, would people just go there?
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
19 Nov 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Do you think that Uber has been banned in some countries because taxi drivers are afraid of the competition? There is a temporary ban in Germany, for example.
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
19 Nov 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I presume that there is also a problem with third-party insurance.
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
19 Nov 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Would it not be a compromise if air weapons clubs, Pony Club branches or whatever could be licensed for sporting activities? The licence and the weapons would be held by the club rather than individually.
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
19 Nov 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
But shooting would have to take place on licensed premises. People could not practise in their gardens, for example—they would have to practise on the premises of a particular group or Pony Club branch.
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
19 Nov 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is understood. Obviously a club would not necessarily have its own premises, but if its members went on sporting events such as trap shooting for the Olympics, they could presumably use the premises of the society or club that they are at.
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con Committee
03 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
How will the police handle the rash of licence applications? There will be an awful lot of people to license.
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
03 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Do you believe that people who do not want to register the guns will hand them in during an amnesty?
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
03 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Ms Dunn, you said in your submission that you felt that under-18s should not get a licence to shoot live animals. How would you regulate that? Are you still of that opinion?
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
03 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
But do you have evidence that a lot of people who are under 18 are trying to shoot live animals?
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
03 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
But you said that the legislation should be amended. That would be quite a difficult amendment to make; it would certainly be difficult to regulate that.
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
03 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
As I understand it, not every airgun or air pistol has a unique identification number. How will you get round that when you are trying to license them?
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
03 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The person is identified on the shotgun certificate, are they not?
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
03 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Would the quantity be specified, as it is in the shotgun legislation? I have two shotguns, and it is specified what make and what number they are. For airguns, is it proposed that the certificate would say that someone can have two, three or four?
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con Committee
10 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I want to take up the point about occasional licences and members’ clubs. How do you regulate occasional licences and private clubs? Should they be regulated in the same way?
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
10 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Are the clubs that Mr Waterson described getting an unfair business advantage?
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
10 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Should we be dealing with all that together?
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con Committee
17 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Does Audrey Watson think that her board did not get a response to its inquiries because NHS Lothian was reluctant to commit itself? What was the reason why no one replied?
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
17 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Do the two aspects go together?
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
17 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I think that we heard from the Scottish Retail Consortium that a supermarket company would not open a supermarket unless it could get an alcohol licence, because alcohol was where it made the biggest profit. Will you comment on that?
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
17 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
As one of the few members who have actually been to a scrapyard, I have gained some superficial knowledge. The problem with cheques is that people who have been paid by cheque can go next door and cash the cheque immediately. It can be very difficult to stop cheques. However, ...
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
17 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I do not necessarily agree. Surely if photographic ID was required you would be able to spot the guy coming in every now and again.
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
17 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
But what if, as in Mr Williamson’s washing machine example, someone who comes to dump a washing machine cannot get cash and just says, “Sod it—I’ll dump it in the river”? Should there not be a cash limit for those situations? Should we not apply a bit of common sense?
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
17 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Does that matter?
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
17 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Having visited a scrapyard, I have seen the problems of storing material for 48 hours. It just does not seem to be practical. However, I see that Mr McCann of Dalton’s stores his metal for longer than 48 hours. What do the witnesses think about the storage rule? It seems to me...
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
17 Dec 2014
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That rule would be redundant.
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con Committee
14 Jan 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am an MSP for Lothian and a member of the committee.
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
14 Jan 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you.
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
14 Jan 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I will pick up on Professor Hubbard’s point. The word “vicinity” is very important in relation to signage. A-frame boards are sometimes spread all over the place, which is not very helpful. What do the panel members think of occasional licences? The policy memorandum suggests...
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
14 Jan 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Only some of it.
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
14 Jan 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The cash ban is obviously worth while, but having heard some evidence already, I was concerned that, because somebody could pay by cheque, they could just go next door and cash the cheque; therefore, photographic identification is obviously essential. Do you all think that ban...
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
14 Jan 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
An issue that was raised in one of the submissions was that someone who wanted to sell their car for scrap for a minimal amount would be put off, with the result that they might just dump their car. The same might be true of someone who wanted to get a fiver for their fridge. ...
Cameron Buchanan Con Committee
21 Jan 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
What are the advantages of the two-tier system that we have at the moment, with private hire and hackney carriages? Are there any advantages?
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 23 April 2015

23 Apr 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Yes, I know that—thank you very much.

Making everyone who wants to own or use an airgun apply for a licence is certainly not targeted. Why should innocent users who want to shoot for sport be forced to go through a cumbersome licensing process that charges for the privilege? I for one consider that, when there is a problem, a Government should seek to address it without imposing itself unnecessarily. Lazily casting the legislative net over every current and potential airgun user certainly breaches that principle, which is particularly worrying when the problem in question is confined to a tiny minority of users.

Furthermore, a vast new airgun licensing regime would bring practical difficulties. We estimate that, at the moment, there are around 500,000 airguns in Scotland, which are untraceable to all intents and purposes. For Police Scotland to license and track them would be very difficult—although I know that that is not proposed—and the people who are using those airguns will go under cover.

This question is crucial: is it in the public’s best interests to invest police time and resources on licensing airguns—or licensing people to use airguns—when Police Scotland increasingly faces budgetary constraints and pressures on its staffing infrastructure? Most people would think not.

I move on to the alcohol licensing provisions. First, I agree that overconsumption of alcohol is a very serious problem, which must be addressed. I also think that it is useful to clarify the licensing boards’ powers so as to avoid confusion or uncertainty in future. However, it is important that aspiring small business owners do not face unnecessary barriers to entry that their competitors do not have to face.

On a similar note, I remain concerned about licensing authorities’ potential power to refuse to grant a licence for a private hire vehicle on the grounds of overprovision. That is anti-competitive and simply not in the best interests of the people whom we should be helping: the consumers. Greater provision of private hire vehicles would allow more people to access that form of transport than ever before. However, this Government proposes to erect barriers to entry that would block consumer benefits, as well as prevent the creation of jobs in an expanding industry.

The mechanism to allow licensing authorities to require knowledge tests for drivers of private hire vehicles has a similar effect. I do not think that knowledge tests are necessary with the advent of TomTom, Garmin and satellite navigation. Furthermore, regulatory barriers to entry will restrict the industry’s growth, which will cost jobs and act against consumers’ interests. I will always maintain that Government should support innovation and refuse to protect vested interests from fair competition that they find inconvenient.

Having said all that, I am in agreement with some areas of the bill. The removal of the requirement for metal dealerships to hold metal for 48 hours before processing it is a welcome example of Government stepping back and removing costly regulation. On a visit to William Waugh scrap metal recyclers in Granton, I saw the large amount of space—and therefore expense—required to comply with that law. The provisions prohibiting payment in cash will also help to increase transparency, which will be beneficial provided that the definitions are clear.

As for the provisions on theatres, they may bring increased flexibility and consistency across the licensing of public entertainment venues, which would be welcome.

In a bill of so many parts, of which some are sensible, it would have been beneficial if the bill had been divided into two, as Alex Rowley stated.

It is clear that the bill will need to be amended substantially at the next legislative stage. As a result, I will lodge amendments at stage 2 that will seek to apply the principle of sensible, targeted government throughout the bill. Accordingly, I hope that the debate will draw out into the open the key areas of the bill in which work is still needed. I have touched on some aspects; my colleagues may come on to others.

On some aspects, such as the licensing of airguns, a considerable change in policy is required. However, I reiterate my view that some of the bill’s provisions appear to be sensible. From that position, I will seek to amend the bill to make its overall impact targeted, beneficial and fair.

The Scottish Conservatives will abstain when voting at decision time.

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