Committee
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee 06 November 2014
06 Nov 2014 · S4 · Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Item of business
Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland
I have two quick questions to ask, if you will allow me to do so, convener. First, I want to ask about the point that Mr Bruce has just made. The percentage of female board members is 35 per cent, although 51 per cent of the Scottish population are female. I am referring to table 25 of the annual report. Does the answer lie in the question that I asked a few minutes ago? Some 54.3 per cent of the Scottish population are aged 49 or under, but only 17.4 per cent of board members are aged 49 or under. With the greatest respect to all of us, are we not looking at the wrong age range? Perhaps if we looked at those under 49, that could bring women on. I agree with and support that to encourage them to come along. There are more younger women councillors now in Scotland than there have ever been, because all parties have encouraged women to stand. Are we not advertising in the wrong papers? What papers are we advertising in? With the greatest respect to The Scotsman, The Herald or whatever fashionable paper you read, most of the population do not read those newspapers.
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The Convener
SNP
Item 3 is an evidence-taking session on the 2013-14 annual report of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland. I welcome the commiss...
Bill Thomson (Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland)
I do not want to say too much by way of introduction. As you are aware, the report covers 2013-14, which was the last year in office of my predecessor, Stuar...
The Convener
SNP
Members have a number of questions. The answers might lead us to other questions of which we have yet to think.
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
The report states that the commissioner received 21 complaints about MSPs during the reporting year. Of those, 18 were found to be inadmissible and three wer...
Bill Thomson
I hope that the committee is not disappointed by those circumstances. I think that it is a good outcome. A lot of complaints cover conduct that is perceived...
Margaret McDougall
Lab
It would be useful if you could send us that information, thank you.
Bill Thomson
Certainly. I do not mind doing that.
The Convener
SNP
You referred to there having been 311 complaints about councillors. It might be useful to say that there are many more councillors than MSPs.
Bill Thomson
Absolutely.
The Convener
SNP
A quick, back-of-an-envelope calculation suggests that there have been complaints about 25 per cent of councillors and 15 per cent of MSPs. I think that thos...
Bill Thomson
Indeed. There are over 2,000 councillors.
The Convener
SNP
There are over 2,000?
Bill Thomson
Sorry—there are 1,200. I beg your pardon. There are about 10 times as many councillors as MSPs.
The Convener
SNP
I am glad that we agree on that. I calculated that there are 1,222.
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
I have a supplementary question on that point. Mr Thomson, you said that a lot of those complaints did not come to us because they were outwith your remit. D...
Bill Thomson
I do, but I cannot envisage a situation in which the Parliament would agree to a code that would cover all the complaints that come to my office and I am not...
Mark Griffin
Lab
Okay. Thanks.
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con)
Con
Good morning. In 2013, you produced a revised code of practice, which we scrutinised and on which we took evidence, including from the previous commissioner....
Bill Thomson
I do not think that any of us wants to increase bureaucracy—I agree with you on that. In the period that is covered by the report, the number of appointment...
Cameron Buchanan
Con
Perhaps one would be of interest. Can you give me one example?
Bill Thomson
I refer to Ian Bruce for that.
Ian Bruce (Office of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland)
A few appointment rounds have tried new approaches to the appointment process, which is one of the things that the committee and other stakeholders encourage...
Cameron Buchanan
Con
You have given an example, which is enough. Thank you very much.
Ian Bruce
Not at all.
Cameron Buchanan
Con
I have no further questions, convener.
The Convener
SNP
In that case, I invite Mark Griffin to speak.
Mark Griffin
Lab
You have probably answered part of this, but will you outline how the reduction in scrutiny, particularly the changes to the role of the assessor under the r...
Bill Thomson
I am not sure whether you are asking me to respond to that in terms of outcomes—I do not imagine that you are suggesting that the reduction in scrutiny will ...
Mark Griffin
Lab
My question was a follow-on from Mr Buchanan’s question about reducing bureaucracy while ensuring that the assessor has an appropriate role and that the role...
Bill Thomson
At the moment, I am. There are two caveats. A measure of satisfaction—this is not the only one—is whether I receive complaints. There were no complaints unde...