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Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
02 Apr 2014
Stop and Search
It is a privilege to open the debate on behalf of the Scottish Liberal Democrats. Yesterday marked the first anniversary of Police Scotland and the abolition of Scotland’s eight regional forces. As members will be aware, we opposed the creation of the single force, because w...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
08 Dec 2015
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
When I first read amendment 6, I was concerned that it seemed to be cast quite widely. I am therefore grateful for the cabinet secretary’s reassurances this afternoon. However, if someone is being voluntarily transported to hospital, they can surely voluntarily undergo a searc...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
27 Nov 2014
Programme for Government 2014-15
I want to make some headway. It has been achieved through unprecedented cross-party talks, which have involved all of us working together meaningfully and leaving behind the politics of division and grievance. That must continue. There must be a constructive relationship betw...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
02 Apr 2014
Stop and Search
Not at the moment. We will, therefore, introduce amendments to the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill and present Parliament with an opportunity to improve the regulatory regime and ensure that every search has a robust legal basis. Let me be clear: we do not intend to confis...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
25 Mar 2014
Topical Question Time · Stop and Search
The Scottish Human Rights Commission has said that stop and search is “largely unregulated and unaccountable”. The latest reports suggest that the system is open to all sorts of abuse, from harassment to falsifying the figures. Hundreds and thousands of searches are being carr...
Alison McInnes LD Committee
19 Feb 2015
Stop and Search
Whether those were consensual stop and searches or what you are now calling interventions is to some extent immaterial, because they all constitute interactions with young children under the age of consent. A very public commitment was made and repeated to the Scottish Police ...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
08 Dec 2015
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
As the cabinet secretary will be aware, although it is not an offence for children to be in possession of alcohol, officers have the power to confiscate it. Why, then, is the Government intent on paving the way for the creation of a search power in relation to an activity that...
Alison McInnes LD Committee
19 Feb 2015
Stop and Search
I turn to the chief constable. Frankly, Police Scotland’s response over the past week has been incoherent. You have set great store by intelligence-led policing based on such data, but in the past few days you have looked at the figures and you now tell us that most of the 350...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
25 Jun 2015
First Minister’s Question Time · Police Scotland (Stop and Search)
Search numbers might be down, but they are still far too high. People in Glasgow are five times more likely to be stopped and searched than people in London are. Searches fall disproportionately on young people. Last year, the number of searches on 16-year-olds in Glasgow was ...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
29 Sep 2015
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will speak to most of the amendments in the group, if you will bear with me, convener. For 18 months, I was repeatedly told by the Scottish Government that stop and search was an operational matter. Ministers insisted that they were comfortable with so-called consensual sto...
Alison McInnes LD Committee
28 Nov 2013
Police Reform
I have two short points to make. First, Kevin Stewart was at pains to explain away the stop-and-search numbers by saying that there was probably a reason for them. If there was, there would be a concomitant increase in the number of positive searches, but there has not been. S...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
08 Oct 2014
Policing
One could be forgiven for thinking that the Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Act 2012 established Police Scotland. It did not. This Parliament established the Police Service of Scotland. However, on taking command of the national force, the chief constable swiftly presided ov...
Alison McInnes LD Committee
19 Jun 2014
Stop and Search
That approach does not appear in the document that you gave us today. It does not say that guidance along those lines would be included as part of the pilot. That might well be good practice in Fife, but it is quite clearly not how searches are being conducted elsewhere, where...
Alison McInnes LD Committee
19 Jun 2014
Stop and Search
You have just referred to conducting searches in the presence of an adult or a teacher, but that is not written down.
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
04 Dec 2014
Scotland’s National Action Plan for Human Rights
I do not have much time. I am still astonished that this Government permits the police to conduct hundreds of thousands of these violations each year. It is even more baffling, because they do not need to. The police possess a range of legitimate statutory search powers, whic...
Alison McInnes LD Committee
05 Mar 2015
Armed Police
Certainly in all the concerns that communities have raised with me, they have been concerned not about the firearms being visible but about them being deployed. People would not want firearms to be hidden away so that they did not know that they were being carried; that does n...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
03 Sep 2015
Policing
I thank the cabinet secretary for advance sight of his statement, and John Scott QC for his thoughtful report. For two years, SNP ministers insisted that they were comfortable with consensual stop and search and refused our appeals to intervene. Meanwhile, Police Scotland cond...
Alison McInnes LD Committee
08 Oct 2015
Stop and Search
There was no significant gap in police powers in relation to the proposals. We know that it was difficult to see the pattern at first because the figures were all amalgamated, but, since June, the figures have been disaggregated. In June and July, alcohol detections from seiz...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
08 Dec 2015
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
As the cabinet secretary said, amendments 10 and 32 build on one of my successful stage 2 amendments. The bill as amended at stage 2 will require the SPA to provide an account of the use of stop and search in its annual report to Parliament. The cabinet secretary’s amendment 1...
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 02 April 2014

02 Apr 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Stop and Search
McInnes, Alison LD North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

It is a privilege to open the debate on behalf of the Scottish Liberal Democrats.

Yesterday marked the first anniversary of Police Scotland and the abolition of Scotland’s eight regional forces. As members will be aware, we opposed the creation of the single force, because we feared that it was based upon deficient legislation, that savings claims were unproven and that it would lead to a one-size-fits-all approach to policing in our local communities.

Many of our concerns have been justified. However, one issue that we did not anticipate was Police Scotland’s zeal for stop and search. Willie Rennie and I have regularly questioned the First Minister and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice about the matter. They have both assured us, as recently as last week, that there is nothing that we should be remotely concerned about—even after the chief constable admitted that figures are being falsely recorded.

The manipulation of statistics is just the latest in a series of revelations about the extent and basis of stop and search in Scotland. Under the Scottish National Party Government, the use of stop and search has risen many times over. Since the formation of Police Scotland, the increase has been extended outwith Strathclyde. A Liberal Democrat freedom of information request uncovered an unprecedented surge in the use of the tactic in every other region. There was a 516 per cent increase year-on-year in Fife during the first four months of Police Scotland’s existence, and the number of searches in Tayside more than doubled.

Why does that warrant the attentions of this Parliament? Why should we worry about the pervasive deployment of this tactic throughout Scotland if, as the police and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice claim, it is keeping communities and young people safe? It should worry us, as legislators, because there is no legal basis for three quarters of the searches conducted in Scotland—all those that are non-statutory. The power to search an individual without legal cause has been appropriated by the police without due parliamentary scrutiny or approval. I think that that is intolerable in a mature democracy.

In the absence of codification, police are conducting so-called consensual searches when there is no suspicion of any wrongdoing. There is no requirement to tell people that they have a right to refuse, and without that any consent acquired is surely ill informed. To all intents and purposes, it is a command based on exploiting the power gap between the officer and the subject.

No authority has yet been able to explain to me how the 500 children under 10 who were stopped and searched in 2010 alone—almost certainly without their parents being present—or, indeed, the dozens of children aged seven or under who we know have been searched, are qualified to give consent.

Furthermore, the police do not record any details if a search is unsuccessful—as is the case on four out of five occasions when such a search takes place—nor is the subject given a written record of the encounter, which is a crucial safeguard in England. Such poor governance and recording procedures have led to Alan Miller, the chair of the Scottish Human Rights Commission, describing the practice as “largely unregulated and unaccountable”. It renders the system vulnerable to challenge under the Human Rights Act 1998, which dictates that deprivations of liberty and invasions of privacy by the police must be lawful and properly documented.

Discrepancies in how the tactic is employed around Scotland mean that there are disparities in access to legal safeguards. The extensive use of non-statutory powers in Strathclyde meant that three quarters of those who were searched in 2010 were told little or nothing about why they were being subjected to the procedure. Conversely, 90 per cent of searches in the then Northern Constabulary region were statutory and subjects were given more information.

We are regularly told by people who defend stop and search that crime is at a record low. However, there is no robust evidence of a causal link between low crime levels and increased prevalence of the tactic. Indeed, drops in serious assaults and weapon carrying predate the growth in stop and search. England and Wales boasts a similar record low in crime, but that has been achieved with only a quarter of the number of stop and searches per person in 2010 compared with Scotland as a whole.

The Cabinet Secretary for Justice also tells us that, because only a small number of complaints have been received, we can safely assume that everything is fine. I fear that that shows that people do not know their rights and are not told them, and that they do not know about the Police Scotland and the Police Investigations and Review Commissioner complaint and review systems. I fear that it may reveal a great deal about those who are disproportionately and persistently targeted—young people who are disaffected and disengaged, whose concerns are too often not heard and whose views of the police, in the absence of any perceptible form of redress, may be irreparably tainted by such experiences.

The Scottish centre for crime and justice research’s recent study of stop and search in Scotland made compelling reading. It concluded that the disproportionate use of stop and search against young people is out of kilter with both offending patterns and the welfarist approach to juvenile justice in Scotland. It also highlighted concerns that that could amount to discrimination that contravenes the Human Rights Act 1998.

On average, each 16-year-old male in Glasgow was stopped on four occasions in 2010. Such figures led Scotland’s Commissioner for Children and Young People, Tam Baillie, to warn that a mass exercise of searching young people without safeguards risks “negative and unintended consequences”. Together, the Scottish Alliance for Children’s Rights, which consists of Barnardo’s, Children 1st, Children in Scotland and many other organisations, agrees.

The Justice Sub-Committee on Policing last month heard from Chief Superintendent Garry McEwan. He told us that officers in Fife visit high schools once a month to help children to understand that their being stopped and searched deters violence and protects their safety. There was no suggestion that they are enlightened about their rights during such forums; therefore, I wonder whether such exercises compound the lack of understanding, unduly normalising the procedure and suppressing genuine grievances.

There is no scope for effective scrutiny of the stop and search tactic. Ghost entries may be only the tip of the iceberg. Indeed, there is a real risk that the recording of positive results on which the policy is justified is at best inconsistent and at worst similarly manipulated. The public are unable to find out how many times any one person has been searched or how the police have responded to so-called positive searches, and they are unable to access information even on negative searches to which they were subjected.

Last weekend, the Sunday Herald reported that it had submitted a freedom of information request asking where the 500,000 searches that were carried out by Police Scotland between April and December took place. Police Scotland told the newspaper that it could not release the figures because doing so would be “harmful” and could lead to “misleading conclusions being drawn” by non-experts.

Although I appreciate that a Scottish Police Authority review is being undertaken, Police Scotland seems to be hushing up the information for public relations purposes. The fact that it prevented publication because the public might have used the facts to draw their own conclusions is both astonishing and patronising. People must be able to find out what is really happening in their area. Such an attitude to transparency will do little to dispel the concerns of academics, charities and watchdogs, and the minister’s blasé approach to the protection of civil liberties and ensuring that there are sufficient safeguards does not inspire confidence.

On Saturday, the Scottish Liberal Democrat conference in Aberdeen unanimously affirmed our concerns about the way in which this tactic is being deployed.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-09557, in the name of Alison McInnes, on stop and search. 14:40
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
It is a privilege to open the debate on behalf of the Scottish Liberal Democrats. Yesterday marked the first anniversary of Police Scotland and the aboliti...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Alison McInnes LD
Not at the moment. We will, therefore, introduce amendments to the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill and present Parliament with an opportunity to improve th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I call Kenny MacAskill, the Cabinet Secretary for Justice, to speak to and move amendment S4M-09557.2. You have seven minutes. I make it clear that we are ti...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill) SNP
I welcome the chance to respond to the motion lodged by Alison McInnes. Stop and search is an important issue, so it is disappointing that the Liberal Democ...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I have listened with interest to what the cabinet secretary says, and I have looked at the text of his amendment. When it comes to policing in Scotland from ...
Kenny MacAskill SNP
Not at all. I have just come from a meeting with the police and the Police Investigations and Review Commissioner. We established through Parliament—by a maj...
Willie Rennie (Mid Scotland and Fife) (LD) LD
The cabinet secretary is fond of quoting statistics, but what was the success rate of the so-called voluntary stop and searches?
Kenny MacAskill SNP
I cannot give the member that precisely, but what he will see is that the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Alcohol and knives are taken from many of th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I call Graeme Pearson to speak to and move amendment S4M-09557.1. Mr Pearson, you have up to five minutes. 14:57
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I rise to move the amendment in my name, which, because of the Government’s pre-emptive amendment, is unlikely to be voted on. To that extent I am disappoint...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
Please draw to a close.
Graeme Pearson Lab
I will indeed, Presiding Officer. In the same magazine, the chief constable asks whether people “seriously think” that the police should go to the public to...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
At the outset, I confirm that I very much support the ability of police officers to stop and search suspects. It is an important power in the fight against c...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We now come to the open debate. We are very tight for time, so speeches should be a maximum of four minutes, please. 15:07
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
I think that we agree that we all want crime to be tackled and our communities to be made safer. It is to be welcomed that recorded crime is at a 39-year low...
Margaret Mitchell Con
Will the member give way?
Sandra White SNP
I am sorry, but I do not have time. If those kids in Glasgow had been down by the Clyde drinking alcohol until midnight or 1 o’clock at night, something cou...
John Pentland (Motherwell and Wishaw) (Lab) Lab
I thank the Liberal Democrats for lodging their motion. Disappointingly, the amendment from the Cabinet Secretary for Justice merely reinforces the impressio...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Mr Pentland, will you pull your microphone round towards you, please?
John Pentland Lab
We do not know whether that is a tenth of our population or fewer people suffering more searches, but we know that the figure is four times that for England ...
Roderick Campbell (North East Fife) (SNP) SNP
I will begin by stating what is perhaps the obvious, which is that I am completely against the idea of fiddled or made-up figures from any public body. I am ...
Alison McInnes LD
Will the member take an intervention?
Roderick Campbell SNP
I am sorry, but I do not have time. I am sure that we all accept that we live in a very different world from that of 50 years ago or even 20 years ago. Over...
Alison McInnes LD
Will the member take an intervention?
Roderick Campbell SNP
I am sorry, but time prevents me from doing so. In evidence to the Justice Sub-Committee on Policing on 20 March, Police Scotland revealed that the rate of ...
Hugh Henry (Renfrewshire South) (Lab) Lab
I want to put on record my support for stop and search. Indeed, as a minister, I played some part in ensuring that additional powers were made available to t...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I am delighted to participate in the debate, as it is always a pleasure to respond to Liberal Democrat members who want to compare Scotland’s achievements in...
Alison McInnes LD
That demonstrates what I do support, which is statutory stop and search, on reasonable suspicion and intelligence led. What I am debating this afternoon and ...