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Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
13 Mar 2013
Police Centralisation
At last Thursday’s First Minister’s question time, Alex Salmond asked me why we had not returned to the subject of police reform the week after we had first asked him about it in January. Sadly—and I know that members on all sides are as unhappy about this as we are—the Libera...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
10 Nov 2011
Keeping Communities Safe
I did indeed see that correspondence. It is for the cabinet secretary to reconcile the two different points of view. I know that the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service is facing a reduction in its budget this year, which is hardly likely to improve the situation.Fresh ...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
29 Jun 2011
Police Complaints Commissioner for Scotland
I, too, congratulate Margaret Mitchell on securing this important debate. I support her motion. The Government’s proposal to transfer the role of the Police Complaints Commissioner for Scotland to the Scottish Public Services Ombudsman fails to recognise the specific and uniqu...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD): LD Chamber
25 Oct 2007
Police Numbers
Police numbers concern people throughout my region. Grampian Police, which serves a large area in the region—with a city, towns, and a highly dispersed population—faces particular pressures, because historically it received a proportion of police funding that was lower than th...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
02 Apr 2014
Stop and Search
It is a privilege to open the debate on behalf of the Scottish Liberal Democrats. Yesterday marked the first anniversary of Police Scotland and the abolition of Scotland’s eight regional forces. As members will be aware, we opposed the creation of the single force, because w...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
06 Oct 2015
One Hundred Years of Women in Policing
I also thank Linda Fabiani for securing a debate marking 100 years of women in policing. At the time when the first female officer with full arrest powers was appointed in England, across the United Kingdom about 4,000 women were already taking on policing functions as volunta...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
03 Mar 2011
Grampian Police
The truth is that making savings of that sort would mean the loss of around 4,000 officers. Grampian’s share of that would be 10 per cent, or 400 officers—that addresses the point that Dave Thompson was going to make. I do not see that as progress. Of all the problems that a n...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
05 Dec 2012
Policing
I thank the Labour Party for bringing the debate to the Parliament this afternoon. The police reforms are at a crucial stage and it is right that we seek to clarify a few basic issues—minor details such as who is in charge of what.The whole chamber knows that the Liberal Democ...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
17 May 2012
Civilian Police Staff
Mr FitzPatrick would do well to focus on what we are here to focus on, which is the running of the service in this country, for which responsibility sits with the Scottish Government.The motive behind the Government’s plans for a single national police force appears to be the ...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
17 May 2012
Civilian Police Staff
Rather unsurprisingly—this is increasingly the case—the debate has been a case of fingers in the ears from members on the Government benches. Lewis Macdonald’s motion is entirely reasonable and certainly worthy of serious debate. The fact that civilian staff play a vital role ...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
06 Nov 2013
Local Police Services
Six months on from the dissolution of our local police forces, we are seeing the true face of the SNP’s centralisation agenda: asset stripping and the erosion of local services. That is why we need to go back to first base and ask whether we want a police service that is roote...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
08 Oct 2014
Policing
One could be forgiven for thinking that the Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Act 2012 established Police Scotland. It did not. This Parliament established the Police Service of Scotland. However, on taking command of the national force, the chief constable swiftly presided ov...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
25 Feb 2014
Police Scotland Traffic Wardens
I congratulate Murdo Fraser on securing this important debate.From the perspective of the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Police Scotland, the cessation of the traffic warden service earlier this month establishes a uniform approach to parking enforcement across the country....
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
26 Feb 2014
Justice
The Scottish Liberal Democrats are deeply concerned, too, about the dismantling of local services across Scotland and the manner in which that is occurring. Sixty police public counters are set to close; road safety units and the police traffic warden service have been scrappe...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
26 Mar 2015
Police Scotland (Accountability)
I am grateful to Hugh Henry for securing the debate. Members will know that the Scottish Liberal Democrats were the only party to consistently oppose the abolition of valued local police services in favour of the creation of one national force. Our opposition was based on rea...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
08 Sep 2011
Scottish Government’s Legislative Programme
It has been a long and worthwhile debate. As many have commented, it has also been a rather momentous debate in the history of the Scottish Parliament—a first legislative programme from a majority governing party. Scotland has gained an interesting insight into the type of Gov...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
27 Jun 2012
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill
I offer my thanks to the legislation team for their work over the course of the bill, and, of course, to the Justice Committee clerks, whose help has been invaluable. I also acknowledge the professionalism shown by our police forces and fire services throughout the debate. Led...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
02 Apr 2014
Stop and Search
Not at the moment. We will, therefore, introduce amendments to the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill and present Parliament with an opportunity to improve the regulatory regime and ensure that every search has a robust legal basis. Let me be clear: we do not intend to confis...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
08 Dec 2015
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
When I first read amendment 6, I was concerned that it seemed to be cast quite widely. I am therefore grateful for the cabinet secretary’s reassurances this afternoon. However, if someone is being voluntarily transported to hospital, they can surely voluntarily undergo a searc...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
06 Jan 2016
Undercover Policing
I, too, congratulate Neil Findlay on securing the debate. He has pursued the issue with vigour. I hope that we can all agree that the issue that we are discussing is important. The allegations that have been made against the police officers in question are serious. As we have...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
03 Mar 2011
Grampian Police
As others have said, Grampian Police does an excellent job. It is among the most efficient forces in the country. That success should be built on through closer co-operation between police services. Instead, the Scottish National Party seems to be intent on wrecking that good ...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
17 Nov 2011
Scottish Executive Question Time · Police Complaints Commissioner for Scotland (Single Police Force)
In light of the major reforms that the cabinet secretary proposes to the police service, does he agree that key to public confidence in a single Scotland-wide police force will be ensuring that Scotland has a dedicated independent oversight body that can effectively hold the p...
Alison McInnes LD Committee
29 May 2012
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
First, with regard to the Government’s amendments in the group, I agree with the principle that it should be the responsibility of the chief constable rather than the Scottish police authority to prepare the annual police plans.My amendment 171 is a reflection of my concern ab...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
27 Jun 2012
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I commend Graeme Pearson for bringing back his proposal for a Scottish policing commission following further discussions after stage 2. The Government has been extremely lukewarm on the idea and it has cited any number of concerns about accountability, blurred lines of respons...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
06 Mar 2012
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you, convener. I have a couple of questions on any lessons that can be learned from the police reforms in other European countries. Mr Finlay spent some time at the beginning of the meeting talking about how the new Police Service of Northern Ireland had to build confide...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
10 May 2012
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I do not want to keep members in suspense so I start by saying that the Scottish Liberal Democrats remain opposed to the bill. We do not agree with the principle of a single police force or a single fire service. We still have serious concerns about the loss of accountability,...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
10 May 2012
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have been asking the minister for such assurances for a long time now and have been consistently batted back with the response that it is an operational matter for the new service. If she wants to give me a guarantee that fire stations will not be closed, I will accept it gr...
Alison McInnes LD Committee
19 Mar 2015
Armed Police
I commend the courage of the officers in the Edinburgh incident that you described. You have repeatedly stressed the ability of firearms officers to judge the situation, and I do not doubt that they are trained in that. However, I have here two critical and quite disturbing Po...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
15 Jan 2015
Emergency Services
I gladly join members across the chamber in commending all those who work in many different ways to keep us safe. My Liberal Democrat colleagues and I are incredibly grateful for the work that the emergency services do for all our constituents around Scotland. Police officers...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
15 Jun 2011
Taking Scotland Forward: Justice
I must first pay a brief tribute to my predecessor in the role of justice spokesperson for the Liberal Democrats, Robert Brown. Robert was an insightful and incisive parliamentarian and a staunch defender of civil rights and liberal democracy. I believe that not only our group...
Alison McInnes LD Committee
06 Mar 2012
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
A couple of my points have already been explored. The confidence in the independence of the new police complaints commissioner is important. It is important that it is there from the outset rather than being layered in after the new police authority has been set up. However, a...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
17 May 2012
Civilian Police Staff
In the context of the current events—the largest reform of Scotland’s policing for more than a generation—this morning’s debate is important and I thank the Labour Party for bringing it to the chamber.The role that civilian staff play in supporting our police forces is vital b...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
04 Dec 2014
Scotland’s National Action Plan for Human Rights
I do not have much time. I am still astonished that this Government permits the police to conduct hundreds of thousands of these violations each year. It is even more baffling, because they do not need to. The police possess a range of legitimate statutory search powers, whic...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
06 Jan 2015
“New Psychoactive Substances Needs Assessment for Tayside, 2014”
I, too, am grateful to Alex Johnstone for bringing this important issue to the chamber and for the work that he has done on it. Comparatively little is known about the use, impact and perceptions of new psychoactive substances or NPS. That is why research such as the comprehen...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
27 Nov 2014
Programme for Government 2014-15
I want to make some headway. It has been achieved through unprecedented cross-party talks, which have involved all of us working together meaningfully and leaving behind the politics of division and grievance. That must continue. There must be a constructive relationship betw...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
04 Jun 2015
Police Reform
In the first couple of years, the role of the Scottish Police Authority in governance and oversight has been surprisingly weak. The authority has repeatedly been playing catch-up; it has been this committee and MSPs who have provided appropriate oversight on governance issues,...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
03 Sep 2015
Policing
I thank the cabinet secretary for advance sight of his statement, and John Scott QC for his thoughtful report. For two years, SNP ministers insisted that they were comfortable with consensual stop and search and refused our appeals to intervene. Meanwhile, Police Scotland cond...
Alison McInnes LD Committee
29 Sep 2015
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Section 5 requires that persons in police custody must be informed “as soon as reasonably practicable” of their key rights. Those currently include the right to have intimation sent to another person, the right of children to access a parent or guardian and the right to rem...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD): LD Chamber
10 Sep 2009
Fire and Rescue Framework
The debate has been constructive and many useful points have been raised that I hope the minister will address in his summing-up speech. We have had significant contributions, such as that from Paul Martin, who raised valid points about fairness and the need to tackle the curr...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD): LD Chamber
02 Dec 2009
Violence Against Women
Like other members, I am pleased to support the 16 days of activism against gender violence campaign and to pledge my continuing support for the elimination of violence against women. Women and children have the right to live free from the threat of violence.We have an annual ...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
09 Dec 2010
Local Government Finance Settlement 2011-12
The offer to local authorities of only a 2.6 per cent cut has more strings attached than there are in a string quartet, and many councillors have described it as unworkable. Will the cabinet secretary explain how the maintenance of 1,000 more police officers can be assured, es...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
10 Mar 2011
Local Services
The crux of much of our concern is the issue of police on the streets, but on whose streets? Is there not a danger that there will not be an equitable distribution of police resources under a centralised national force, that resources will all be drawn towards the centre, wher...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
29 May 2012
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 1A seeks to require that the chairing member of the new authority be appointed separately from other members through the Crown appointments process. I realise that that process is more usually reserved for positions such as Auditor General for Scotland, but I think t...
Alison McInnes LD Committee
12 Jun 2012
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I acknowledge the need for transitional arrangements for the new police service to be enshrined in the bill, so I am content to support the bulk of the amendments in the minister’s name. However, issues are raised by the relatively late introduction of the arrangements, partic...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
27 Jun 2012
Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I thank Jenny Marra for lodging the amendments and congratulate her on how she spoke to them. I support the intention behind the amendments. Until now, I have been reluctant to argue for quotas, but it is clear that voluntary action is not working. We had a useful debate about...
Alison McInnes LD Committee
23 Oct 2012
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2013-14
We spent a long time with the previous panel considering the impact of the budget cuts—I do not apologise for doing that, because the issue is important. We particularly considered the balance between civilian and police staff. I agree that there is an artificial argument, but...
Alison McInnes LD Committee
27 Nov 2012
Police Reform
It is clear that you are trying to develop structures, and much of the early questioning was around what happens if something goes catastrophically wrong. How do we provide the best police service if the chief constable does not have operational responsibility for the whole pa...
Alison McInnes LD Chamber
10 Jan 2013
First Minister’s Question Time · Police Service of Scotland
I quote from the application pack:“Overall PurposeTo establish and lead the Police Service of Scotland ... Providing inspirational leadership ... including the direction and control of over 17,000 police officers and 6,500 police staff”.Were the applicants misled? Is the legis...
Alison McInnes LD Committee
21 May 2013
Scottish Court Service
I have two questions. Mr McQueen said that the Court Service is not about buildings but about people. I find that hard to reconcile with Mr Binning’s point about Arbroath and Forfar. He acknowledged that the facilities for vulnerable witnesses are better in Arbroath, yet the b...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
28 Nov 2013
Police Reform
I want to follow up John Finnie’s point about how target setting and comparisons of performance between areas from week to week impacts on communities. In my community in the north-east, stop and search has increased by 47 per cent in the six months that the new organisation h...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
25 Sep 2013
Corroboration
Since the foundations of Scots law were laid, it has been established that no individual should be convicted of a crime based on the testimony of a single witness. However, I do not defend corroboration because of tradition; I defend it because it protects against miscarriages...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
19 Nov 2013
Victims and Witnesses (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendments 70 to 73 would extend restitution orders and the associated fund to all emergency workers. That would mean that an assault on any emergency worker—not just a police officer or staff member—could lead to the offender’s being required to make a payment to the restitut...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
12 Jun 2014
Cashback for Communities
I, too, welcome the opportunity to take part in this debate and to highlight how the cashback for communities scheme is improving the lives of thousands of young people across Scotland. The motion rightly notes that many successful applicants, but by no means all, support you...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
07 Oct 2014
Child Sexual Exploitation
Ms Dalrymple said when responding to Margaret Mitchell that the professionals all know what they are dealing with when it comes to what constitutes grooming and child sexual exploitation. However, one of the saddest things about the Rotherham inquiry findings is that the polic...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
19 Jun 2014
Stop and Search
I am pleased that there is a belated acknowledgement of the need for reform of stop and search. I share the concern of Margaret Mitchell and Graeme Pearson that there runs through all that you have said today, and through the new briefing paper from Police Scotland that we rec...
Alison McInnes LD Committee
25 Nov 2014
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2015-16
I absolutely acknowledge the savings that Police Scotland has made in the first couple of years in removing duplication and dealing with some of the inefficiencies, but Vic Emery has said that we are now moving from that consolidating period to a more reforming period, and the...
Alison McInnes LD Committee
21 Aug 2014
Armed Police
You are responsible for ensuring that the chief constable adheres to the policing principles, which would allow you to investigate things in advance. That would allow you to ask the chief constable to explain what he is thinking of doing about something and to look into almost...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Committee
05 Mar 2015
Armed Police
Mr Whyte, on 1 October 2014, Police Scotland said that ARV officers would no longer be deployed to routine incidents. You may understand my desire for certainty on the matter, given previous assurances from Police Scotland. Are you sure that that is the case? 14:00
Alison McInnes LD Committee
05 Mar 2015
Armed Police
That is quite a different story. The assurances that we have had that armed police officers are not out dealing with routine issues are given the lie by the figures. There have been 1,644 incidents where police officers carrying arms interacted with citizens in non-life threat...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD Chamber
09 Feb 2012
Local Government Finance (Scotland) Order 2012 [Draft]
Scottish Liberal Democrats will support the order. Councils throughout Scotland will meet later today to set their budgets. Democratically-elected councils deliver valued services to local communities, week in and week out. As we heard, all councils continue to face significa...
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Meeting of the Parliament 13 March 2013

13 Mar 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Police Centralisation
McInnes, Alison LD North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

At last Thursday’s First Minister’s question time, Alex Salmond asked me why we had not returned to the subject of police reform the week after we had first asked him about it in January. Sadly—and I know that members on all sides are as unhappy about this as we are—the Liberal Democrats get only one day of debating time a year. That day is today and we would not want to disappoint the First Minister again.

I want to start by taking the Cabinet Secretary for Justice’s mind back to the first day of stage 2 of the Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Bill. He might recall rejecting one of my amendments; actually, he rejected them all, but when he rejected this one in particular he said:

“It would let ministers off the hook ... as ministers could not be held to account”.—[Official Report, Justice Committee, 29 May 2012; c 1350.]

Given what has since unfolded, we will be only too happy to hold him to account for his decisions.

Members on all sides know the Liberal Democrats’ position on the single police force: we were not in favour of the principle, the detail or the reality. However, we are where we are and I have no intention of standing here and trying to argue that we can put the genie back in the bottle. Now we join with all sides in wanting to ensure that the new police force works.

During the bill’s passage, members from all sides of this chamber raised genuine concerns and all parties lodged positive and constructive amendments. We know that the Government has its majority and that we cannot make it listen to reasoned opposition, but the fact that it chose to wilfully ignore such opposition reflects poorly on it. Such an attitude ill befits a Parliament that is meant to be reflective of the Scottish people.

As we have all seen, since the appointment of the members of the Scottish Police Authority and the new chief constable at the tail-end of last year, an on-going dispute has been played out in the media that the Government has been curiously hesitant to step into. Back in November, the First Minister told Willie Rennie that there were “creative tensions” between Vic Emery and Stephen House and, in December, Kenny MacAskill told the chamber that discussions between Mr House and Mr Emery had been “fruitful and progressive”. Imagine our surprise to find out that the Government had brought in the Lord Advocate to back up its view on how the legislation should be read; that, in January, one of the cabinet secretary’s senior civil servants wrote to Vic Emery to tell him that the Government was

“of the view that the proposed arrangement is unbalanced, confusing and would place the Police Service of Scotland in a unique and invidious position”

and that Vic Emery responded by saying that

“the Board’s reservoir of patience with the protracted nature of resolving this kind of issue is already running low.”

My colleagues on the Justice Committee will know the feeling. I think that we will all agree that our dealings so far with the SPA have been frustrating.

I admit that the Government is in an interesting dilemma. By stepping in, it will have to admit that there are shortcomings in the legislation; however, it will at least be able to make the changes needed to ensure that the SPA has a clear and defined role. Alternatively, if it keeps on defending its law, it will have to watch as the SPA’s self-determined remit threatens the effectiveness of the single police force before it even starts policing. Perhaps we should be relieved that the Government has stepped in to at least try to get the SPA back on track, even if it looks like being too little, too late.

At the heart of the problem is the democratic vacuum that has been created within our police service. In three weeks’ time, the Government will turn its back on a system in which locally elected members appoint police chiefs, scrutinise police actions and manage police budgets. Instead, all those things will be done by the SPA, which is an unelected board appointed on the say-so of the Scottish ministers. Even if members think that that is acceptable—and l, for one, do not—surely we can all agree that the SPA’s responsibilities should be so fully defined in law that there can be no confusion over how its relationship with the police service works.

The Government has handed the 13 people on that authority a £1 billion budget and oversight of Scotland’s entire police service. We must ask: “Who watches the watchmen?” As it is, the Parliament has been circumvented. We had no role in appointing the SPA; we are confined in how we can scrutinise it and the new police force; and we were ignored in strengthening the law. So much for democracy within the new police service. All the power is in the hands of the cabinet secretary, and it is up to him to find a long-term solution.

The three aspects that we highlighted in our motion are staffing, human resources and budgeting, but we could have listed more. In each and every one of them, the problem is the same. The SPA has interpreted the Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Act 2012 in a way that will give it direct, hands-on control over fundamental aspects of our police service. What started as a disagreement over human resources has snowballed out of control. It was clear to all—or to nearly everyone, apart from the SPA—that the planned approach on that was simply not fit for purpose. It was not in keeping with the intention of the act, even if, thanks to the Government’s legislative complacency, it was within the legal interpretation. Had the Government stepped in early to clarify matters, that might have been the end of the disagreements but, instead, it stood idly by and the Parliament, bereft of input, was forced to do likewise.

We now know that the Government did not agree with the SPA’s interpretation. We also know that, when it advertised the chief constable’s position, it stated that he would have

“direction and control over 17,000 officers and 6,500 police staff”.

So when the authority was allowed to get its own way—mostly—on human resources, it decided to flex its muscles and to test where else it could expand its remit. Even where agreement has been reached, it seems clear that Mr Emery has not really changed his views. He has compromised so that things can progress, and I do not doubt that the SPA will return to the matter.

All that has led us to the situation in which an experienced authority member feels that it could rightly be their role to question decisions that the police make on how they carry out active criminal investigations. Whatever the Government’s vision of the future of Scotland’s policing was, surely it was not that. We must be very concerned about what other aspects of policing the SPA might try to take an active role in in the future.

In the Justice Committee, members from all parties agree that it is imperative for the Parliament to take a more proactive role in scrutinising the new police service and the SPA. Indeed, later this afternoon, the Parliament will be asked to approve the establishment of a sub-committee on policing. I understand that that will be the first time that we have ever set up a sub-committee in the Parliament. That demonstrates the importance that the Justice Committee places on the matter. The six members of that sub-committee will be tasked with providing the same democratic oversight that was previously carried out by dozens of police board members from around Scotland, if they possibly can. The sub-committee will also be tasked with monitoring the SPA. However, it is in the Government’s hands alone to curb the SPA when it overreaches itself.

We should be under no illusions. The changes that were voted through in the Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Act 2012 represent the biggest shake-up of policing in Scotland for a generation and mistakes will inevitably have been made. That is the case in almost any piece of legislation that runs to 130 pages, but it will be all the more so when Opposition concerns are so directly ignored. The act’s shortcomings are there for all to see. They have been played out in newspapers, on television, in committee meetings and, unfortunately, behind quickly closed doors.

The Scottish Police Authority has an important job to do, and the police service of Scotland has many vital roles to play in keeping our communities safe, but right now, the Government has the most important responsibility. It must ensure that the police set-up that it is creating is fit for purpose and that Scotland’s new police service is not constrained in being the police service that the people of Scotland deserve.

I do not believe that the Government intended ambiguous legislation and I would be happy to work constructively with it to make the legislation better. I therefore ask it to hold up its hands and say that it will look at the legislation again.

I am deeply disappointed that the Government’s amendment indicates that it thinks that everything is just hunky-dory. That is just burying its head in the sand. It needs to tighten up the legislation and get the show back on track.

I urge the Government to review urgently the scope of the Scottish Police Authority to ensure that it does exactly what was intended, and to ensure that Scotland’s new police force is able to get on with its important work.

I move,

That the Parliament notes with concern the ongoing uncertainties surrounding the Police Service of Scotland ahead of its taking over all police functions on 1 April 2013; believes that, by taking control of policing out of the hands of locally elected members and transferring it to a board appointed by the Scottish Ministers, the Scottish Government has created a democratic deficit in Scotland’s police service; further believes that the Scottish Government’s complacent attitude toward its reform programme has allowed the Scottish Police Authority to effectively redefine the scope of its own remit; considers that decisions taken by the Scottish Police Authority on staffing, human resources and budgeting could put at risk the future operational effectiveness of policing in Scotland, and calls on the Scottish Government to review as a matter of urgency whether the Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Act 2012 should be amended to provide clarity as to the rightful functions and responsibilities of the Scottish Police Authority and to report back to the Parliament before the end of June 2013.

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I suggest that Kenny MacAskill answers the questions that are asked of him as minister with responsibility for the area, rather than engaging in puerile atte...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome the opportunity to debate the implementation of the single police force, which is due to take effect in less than three weeks, and I commend the Li...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
You are in your last minute.
Margaret Mitchell Con
It has also been reported that the redundancy bill for civilian staff is likely to reach £60 million. In addition, a parliamentary question from my colleague...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We are very tight for time—members have four minutes for speeches. I call Christine Grahame, to be followed by Graeme Pearson. 15:06
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. In four minutes I will try to touch on some points, but not all. Alison McInnes is right to raise concerns that the sin...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
Would Christine Grahame not accept that the opposite of that argument is that Dumfries and Galloway constabulary was not big enough to investigate Lockerbie?
Christine Grahame SNP
Yes, indeed. That is why I am saying that, with a centralised police force, a big incident such as that would be dealt with by a serious crime squad. That is...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
You are in your final minute.
Christine Grahame SNP
My last point is to invite you all—you are all coming and can have a wonderful time. I have here a letter signed by Vic Emery and Stephen House—it has no blo...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Speak through the chair, please.
Christine Grahame SNP
I beg your pardon. I am speaking through the chair again. I expect all the Liberal Democrats to attend that meeting and I look forward to their having the a...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
For 38 years, officers and staff from eight police forces and, more recently, the Scottish Crime and Drugs Enforcement Agency and the Scottish Police Service...
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
I, too, thank all those involved in the police service whom Graeme Pearson mentioned—officers and staff alike—who make our communities much safer for the mem...
Willie Rennie LD
Will the member take an intervention?
Sandra White SNP
I am sorry, but I have only four minutes. I bumped into Councillor Paul Rooney, who is a Labour councillor in Glasgow City Council and a highly respected me...