Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 18 March 2010
18 Mar 2010 · S3 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Climate Change
The UK Committee on Climate Change’s report has made it clear that we can reach our interim goal of a 42 per cent reduction in carbon emissions by 2020, but it will be hard work. To misquote a famous political saying, we must act early and we must act often. Making early cuts in carbon emissions will be extremely important in easing the path towards that target.
I was delighted that the minister reaffirmed the Government’s commitment to reaching the 42 per cent target during the launch of the CCC’s advice. We are under no illusion that meeting that target will be easy, but by staying the course, Scotland is setting an example for the rest of the world to follow, and I am truly hopeful that we can put pressure on the EU to shake off the disappointments of Copenhagen and toughen its commitments. Let us remember that as well as being key to making a real difference in tackling climate change, stronger international targets will help us to meet our national targets.
I am interested in Sarah Boyack’s decision to focus on the Government’s car fleet. Although I recognise that heed must be paid to the cost to the taxpayer, I fully agree that the Government should be looking to shift to low or zero-emission vehicles. In the Scottish National Party’s first two years in power, the Government car service bought 18 new cars—14 diesels and four hybrids. I acknowledge what the minister said about emissions, and we cannot pretend that reversing that trend will have a huge impact on Scottish emissions—unless I am significantly underestimating the extent to which Mr Stevenson and his colleagues are driven around—but it will set an example. If we are to see the step change in reducing emissions from transport, as well as from buildings, waste and electricity, the need for which the CCC’s report highlighted, the Government must take the lead.
I am sure that the minister will recognise the language of my amendment from last summer’s climate change delivery plan, in which the planning and development of a battery-charging infrastructure is identified as a must-do for the “transformational change” of a wholesale switch to electric vehicles in the 2020s. Of course, such a switch cannot happen overnight, but if it is to happen at all, people will need to be sure that the right infrastructure is in place—or, at the very least, that it is properly planned for. Until a comprehensive charging network is planned for, electric cars can never be much more than gadgets—cars for short journeys—with petrol-fuelled cars remaining kings of the A roads. Once plans are in place for a charging infrastructure and there is evidence that the Government and the country are serious about making that change, even if it will not be completed for some years, people can at least start to give electric cars genuine consideration. Nissan’s announcement today is very welcome. The private sector is stepping up and the Government needs to match that action.
The UK Government launched its plugged-in places infrastructure framework in November by offering funding to create charging infrastructure in lead cities across the UK. London, north-east England and Milton Keynes were successful in the first round, and several other cities and regions were marked as having made strong bids. Disappointingly, no Scottish city or region was mentioned. Given that the second deadline for submissions is in June, I strongly urge the Government to work with local authorities, businesses and other organisations to share its expertise and seriously explore whether a suitable submission could still be made. I am sure that the minister would agree that it would be a crying shame if Scotland were to miss out not only on the chance to support the early market for electric vehicles, but on helping to shape the future of Britain’s transport infrastructure. From this point on, it will be a crying shame if Scotland misses out on any such opportunity.
The Committee on Climate Change made it clear that a step change is needed right across the country. In Parliament and in Government we must show that we are happy to set an example but, equally, we must show that we are serious about providing the infrastructure that is necessary if the rest of the country is to make that change.
I move amendment S3M-5978.3, to insert after “vehicles”:
“, to bring forward the planning and development of a national vehicle battery-charging infrastructure”.
I was delighted that the minister reaffirmed the Government’s commitment to reaching the 42 per cent target during the launch of the CCC’s advice. We are under no illusion that meeting that target will be easy, but by staying the course, Scotland is setting an example for the rest of the world to follow, and I am truly hopeful that we can put pressure on the EU to shake off the disappointments of Copenhagen and toughen its commitments. Let us remember that as well as being key to making a real difference in tackling climate change, stronger international targets will help us to meet our national targets.
I am interested in Sarah Boyack’s decision to focus on the Government’s car fleet. Although I recognise that heed must be paid to the cost to the taxpayer, I fully agree that the Government should be looking to shift to low or zero-emission vehicles. In the Scottish National Party’s first two years in power, the Government car service bought 18 new cars—14 diesels and four hybrids. I acknowledge what the minister said about emissions, and we cannot pretend that reversing that trend will have a huge impact on Scottish emissions—unless I am significantly underestimating the extent to which Mr Stevenson and his colleagues are driven around—but it will set an example. If we are to see the step change in reducing emissions from transport, as well as from buildings, waste and electricity, the need for which the CCC’s report highlighted, the Government must take the lead.
I am sure that the minister will recognise the language of my amendment from last summer’s climate change delivery plan, in which the planning and development of a battery-charging infrastructure is identified as a must-do for the “transformational change” of a wholesale switch to electric vehicles in the 2020s. Of course, such a switch cannot happen overnight, but if it is to happen at all, people will need to be sure that the right infrastructure is in place—or, at the very least, that it is properly planned for. Until a comprehensive charging network is planned for, electric cars can never be much more than gadgets—cars for short journeys—with petrol-fuelled cars remaining kings of the A roads. Once plans are in place for a charging infrastructure and there is evidence that the Government and the country are serious about making that change, even if it will not be completed for some years, people can at least start to give electric cars genuine consideration. Nissan’s announcement today is very welcome. The private sector is stepping up and the Government needs to match that action.
The UK Government launched its plugged-in places infrastructure framework in November by offering funding to create charging infrastructure in lead cities across the UK. London, north-east England and Milton Keynes were successful in the first round, and several other cities and regions were marked as having made strong bids. Disappointingly, no Scottish city or region was mentioned. Given that the second deadline for submissions is in June, I strongly urge the Government to work with local authorities, businesses and other organisations to share its expertise and seriously explore whether a suitable submission could still be made. I am sure that the minister would agree that it would be a crying shame if Scotland were to miss out not only on the chance to support the early market for electric vehicles, but on helping to shape the future of Britain’s transport infrastructure. From this point on, it will be a crying shame if Scotland misses out on any such opportunity.
The Committee on Climate Change made it clear that a step change is needed right across the country. In Parliament and in Government we must show that we are happy to set an example but, equally, we must show that we are serious about providing the infrastructure that is necessary if the rest of the country is to make that change.
I move amendment S3M-5978.3, to insert after “vehicles”:
“, to bring forward the planning and development of a national vehicle battery-charging infrastructure”.
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The Presiding Officer (Alex Fergusson)
NPA
I apologise for the slight delay in starting, but the lens in my glasses fell out and I am completely blind without them.
The Minister for Parliamentary Business (Bruce Crawford)
SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer.I am glad that your lens is now in the appropriate place.Under rule 8.6.1 of the standing orders, I wish to provide cl...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green)
Green
On a point of order, Presiding Officer.
The Presiding Officer
NPA
I will answer the first point of order before hearing yours, Mr Harvie.I am grateful for the minister’s prior notice of his point of order. I am advised that...
Patrick Harvie
Green
You have dealt with my point of order, Presiding Officer. It was merely to seek clarification that there are no constraints on the Parliament that mirror the...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
I am happy to confirm that that is the situation.That being case, we come to the first item of business, which is a debate on motion S3M-5978, in the name of...
Sarah Boyack (Edinburgh Central) (Lab)
Lab
I have great pleasure in speaking to and moving the Labour Party’s motion. The Scottish National Party Government has been happy to pay lip service to tackli...
The Minister for Transport, Infrastructure and Climate Change (Stewart Stevenson)
SNP
I hope that it will aid the debate if I say that we are prepared to support Mr Johnstone’s and Ms McInnes’s amendments.I am delighted to have the opportunity...
Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con)
Con
I am grateful that the minister has committed to supporting both my amendment and that of the Liberal Democrats. Earlier today, Alison McInnes mentioned that...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
I must hurry you.
Alex Johnstone
Con
The Green amendment contains some views that I am highly sympathetic towards, but unless I hear otherwise from the minister during the debate, I believe that...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
Thank you. I am sorry to hurry everyone, but we are very short of time.09:36
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD)
LD
The UK Committee on Climate Change’s report has made it clear that we can reach our interim goal of a 42 per cent reduction in carbon emissions by 2020, but ...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
I am grateful that you finished 20 seconds early.09:40
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green)
Green
The last time that we debated climate change I expressed a little boredom with simply restating the very partial consensus that exists. We have established c...
Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP)
SNP
I, too, am opposed to the Hunterston proposals as they stand, but is it fair to lodge an amendment in the knowledge that ministers cannot vote on it, given t...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
Had you been here on time, Mr Gibson, you would have heard a point of order on that very issue.
Patrick Harvie
Green
As the Presiding Officer made clear, my amendment is admissible. It is entirely appropriate for us, as members of the Scottish Parliament, to express our vie...
Marlyn Glen (North East Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
I welcome the opportunity to take part in the debate, particularly as I am a newer member of the Transport, Infrastructure and Climate Change Committee.As ha...
Shirley-Anne Somerville (Lothians) (SNP)
SNP
The Climate Change (Scotland) Act 2009 provides the substantial foundations for this country’s contribution to the collective international battle against cl...
George Foulkes (Lothians) (Lab)
Lab
Will the member give way?
Shirley-Anne Somerville
SNP
We are all tight for time this morning, so I will not.
George Foulkes
Lab
Very wise.
Shirley-Anne Somerville
SNP
Against that background, it is appropriate that the Government plans a programme for ensuring that its fleet comprises only low-carbon or electric vehicles. ...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh North and Leith) (Lab)
Lab
We all know that we face an enormous challenge, given that, if there are no changes to the EU emissions trading scheme, a 47 per cent reduction in emissions ...
Rob Gibson (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
SNP
I believe that there is more that unites us than divides us in the debate. As it is such an important subject, I am really sorry that it has been allowed onl...
The Presiding Officer
NPA
Order.
Rob Gibson
SNP
We can see the work that is being done on the abatement of carbon emissions in land use. A nice addition would be to have support from across the Parliament ...
Sarah Boyack
Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Rob Gibson
SNP
I am sorry, but I do not have time.It is important for energy to be made more affordable if vehicles are to be able to run both on electric batteries and on ...