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Ross Thomson (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
12 Jan 2017
Education and Skills Organisations (Performance and Role)
I, too, extend my thanks to the Education and Skills Committee convener for opening the debate, and recognise the contribution of all committee members who, since May last year, have worked extremely well together to scrutinise the public bodies and agencies responsible for de...
Ross Thomson (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
17 May 2017
Teacher Training Programme
Everyone in the teaching profession should be in no doubt as to the value that we attach to it—not simply for young people but for the country as a whole. It is difficult to put into words our gratitude to the hard-working and dedicated teachers who work across Scotland. From...
Ross Thomson (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
14 Jun 2016
Colleges and Universities
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I am honoured to represent a region that has such a strong reputation for world-class education and pioneering research. Whether we are talking about Abertay University, which is a centre of excellence for computer games education and the first i...
Ross Thomson (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Chamber
01 Mar 2017
Scottish Funding Council Board (Abolition)
It appears that, before phase 1 of the enterprise and skills review was even on the books, the Scottish Government had made up its mind. There is going to be a strategic alignment of the delivery of skills, enterprise and education. As has been confirmed by the Government and ...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
07 Dec 2016
Enterprise and Skills Review
Cabinet secretary, I note from the submissions to the review that the Scottish cities alliance gave some feedback. It commented that we need to align the funding of further education by the Scottish funding council with the regional needs of employers. As you will be aware, th...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
21 Dec 2016
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2017-18
Thank you. Following on from that and from your point about the assessment redesign that is being undertaken by SQA, I note that on 2 November you stated to the committee that “It is intolerable if there are errors ... in exam papers.”—Official Report, Education and Skills Co...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
15 Jun 2016
Education and Culture Committee Legacy Report
As an entirely new member, I found the legacy report helpful, as it allowed me to look at the work that the previous committee undertook. My particular interest in relation to the North East Scotland region, which I represent, is the growing skills gap there, particularly in ...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
07 Sep 2016
Skills
I will follow on from Tavish Scott’s line of questioning. When, in the previous evidence session, which focused on further and higher education, I asked Shona Struthers about regionalisation, the merger of colleges and what she saw as a criterion for success, she said that she...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
02 Nov 2016
Overview Sessions
As part of the committee’s work, we know that the commission for developing Scotland’s young workforce highlighted that about 30 per cent of employers have contact with colleges and schools and that a lot of work could be done to improve that number. That point follows on from...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
02 Nov 2016
Overview Sessions
In evidence to the committee when we looked at expansion of early years provision, Claire Schofield from the National Day Nurseries Association advised members that as we expand to “1,140 hours of provision, there are a number of different challenges. The number of hours and ...
Ross Thomson (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
09 Nov 2016
Pre-budget Scrutiny 2017-18 (Skills Development Scotland)
I have a couple of questions on modern apprenticeships. Damien Yeates said in his answer to Johann Lamont’s question that support for people over the age of 25 is an emerging issue and can be looked at as part of the apprenticeship levy. At present, as you will be aware, ther...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
09 Nov 2016
Pre-budget Scrutiny 2017-18 (Skills Development Scotland)
I will try to combine my two questions. I have a quick follow-up for Gordon McGuinness. When the transition training fund was announced, great play was made of the idea that it would help in particular with the teacher vacancies that we had in the north-east. How many people w...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
09 Nov 2016
Pre-budget Scrutiny 2017-18 (Skills Development Scotland)
It was about teachers.
Ross Thomson Con Committee
09 Nov 2016
Pre-budget Scrutiny 2017-18 (Skills Development Scotland)
I have a quick point to make that follows on from Tavish Scott’s line of questioning. I hope that it will receive a positive response. In the submission from Aberdeen and Grampian Chamber of Commerce, the statement by business leaders that rang alarm bells with me was that it ...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
09 Nov 2016
Pre-budget Scrutiny 2017-18 (Skills Development Scotland)
That is useful.
Ross Thomson Con Committee
23 Nov 2016
Pre-budget Scrutiny 2017-18 (Scottish Qualifications Authority)
Other members have highlighted mistakes that have been made—particularly the typographical errors that were in the national 5 computing exam. We know that the SQA is responsible for such mistakes and that they ranged from grammatical mistakes to questions that simply could not...
Ross Thomson (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
07 Dec 2016
Enterprise and Skills Review
I will pick up on a question that Richard Lochhead raised about the comments by the former chairman of HIE, Professor Jim Hunter. In the article in The Press and Journal to which Richard Lochhead referred, Professor Jim Hunter was quoted as saying that, rather than building on...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
07 Dec 2016
Enterprise and Skills Review
Thank you, cabinet secretary. With all due respect, we are talking about the Scottish Government’s political choices and areas for which you are wholly responsible. I am sure that the public will see through the blaming of anybody else. Last week, at the Public Audit and Post...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
07 Dec 2016
Enterprise and Skills Review
I am sure that you will be using the new powers of the Scottish Parliament to rectify anything that you believe is wrong.
Ross Thomson Con Committee
07 Dec 2016
Enterprise and Skills Review
I will concentrate on the topic at hand, convener. At the same meeting, Mr Sim stated that the role of such a single board should be to take “an expert view that challenges Government and tells it what it has to do to achieve the results that it wants, and that is also able ...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
07 Dec 2016
Enterprise and Skills Review
Thank you, cabinet secretary. Convener, I have a couple of questions on theme 2. Would you like me to ask them now?
Ross Thomson Con Committee
07 Dec 2016
Enterprise and Skills Review
Thank you. In the same submission, the SCA proposed decentralisation, on “a principle of subsidiarity”. It talked about the need for more “fiscal and non-fiscal levers” and suggested that local authorities are better placed to incentivise investment and meet local need. Howev...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
07 Dec 2016
Enterprise and Skills Review
You are saying that you are open to the idea, if the cities can provide evidence and suggestions. I take your point about councils’ powers, but I think that a lot of councils feel constrained, given that there has been an agenda of centralisation. The seven cities contribute a...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
07 Dec 2016
Enterprise and Skills Review
On centralisation, I think that people in the north-east are not keen on the idea of all the council tax that they raise going to the central belt—that is not very local.
Ross Thomson Con Chamber
13 Dec 2016
International Migrants to Scotland
If Clare Adamson had paid attention to my remarks and those of my colleague Liz Smith, she would know about the work that we have been doing in lobbying the UK Government. We have been very active on that front—probably more so than some of Clare Adamson’s SNP colleagues. In ...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
21 Dec 2016
Draft Budget Scrutiny 2017-18
At that 23 November meeting, my colleague Tavish Scott challenged Dr Brown on the submissions from teachers, which made it quite clear that teachers are being swamped with guidance and documentation. One submission from a teacher expressed concern about “81 pages of guidance ...
Ross Thomson Con Chamber
12 Jan 2017
Education and Skills Organisations (Performance and Role)
I would like to make progress because I have a tight six minutes. That situation highlights the urgency of the action and intervention that is needed to restore trust and confidence. The committee’s work since May has uncovered a number of serious issues that require urgent ...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
02 Feb 2017
Section 23 Reports
To follow on from the theme about data, when Dame Ruth Silver was questioned by my colleague Liz Smith at the Education and Skills Committee, Dame Ruth expressed concern that the data that sits behind the Government’s decision that universities must accept 20 per cent of their...
Ross Thomson (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
08 Mar 2017
School Education
The committee has received from teachers quite overwhelming evidence that they have limited ability to support pupils who have additional support needs because of cuts in the number of teaching assistants. That has come from witnesses and written submissions to the committee. ...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
08 Mar 2017
School Education
My question follows on from Gillian Martin’s point. In his evidence to the committee, Jordan Daly stated that “86 per cent of LGBT people ... reported that LGBT issues were never discussed or taught in their schools”.—Official Report, Education and Skills Committee, 22 Febru...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
29 Mar 2017
“Performance and Role of Key Education and Skills Bodies” (Responses)
Did we get feedback from SDS’s meeting with chambers of commerce? SDS undertook to follow up on some of the criticism.
Ross Thomson (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
19 Apr 2017
Skills
My question is not on Brexit, but on priority 5, which is “improving flexibility of learning”. In your presentation, you referred to that as being key, and you touched on the reduction of part-time places in further education. My understanding is that, between 2007 and 2016, t...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
19 Apr 2017
Skills
What does the system of flexibility look like? I understand what you are saying about short bursts and so on, but how does that system function?
Ross Thomson (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
26 Apr 2017
“Performance and Role of Key Education and Skills Bodies” (Education Scotland Response)
Dr Maxwell, I understand that you have been the chief executive of the CFE implementation group since it was created in 2011. Is that correct?
Ross Thomson Con Committee
26 Apr 2017
“Performance and Role of Key Education and Skills Bodies” (Education Scotland Response)
The “Quality and improvement in Scottish education 2012-2016” report, which was quoted earlier, says: “Scottish education does not yet provide all children and young people with consistently high-quality learning experiences. Unless this variability is addressed we will not a...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
26 Apr 2017
“Performance and Role of Key Education and Skills Bodies” (Education Scotland Response)
The same report highlighted that 42 per cent of early learning and childcare settings, 40 per cent of primary schools and 43 per cent of special schools that were inspected had not implemented CFE beyond a satisfactory level. Moreover, it noted that “colleges have made some p...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
26 Apr 2017
“Performance and Role of Key Education and Skills Bodies” (Education Scotland Response)
Yes, of course.
Ross Thomson Con Committee
26 Apr 2017
“Performance and Role of Key Education and Skills Bodies” (Education Scotland Response)
I have another two questions, convener.
Ross Thomson Con Committee
26 Apr 2017
“Performance and Role of Key Education and Skills Bodies” (Education Scotland Response)
In advance of an evidence session on 30 November 2016, at which guidance from Education Scotland was to be looked at, the committee asked teachers whether they agreed that the guidance and support associated with CFE built a world-class curriculum for all learners in Scotland....
Ross Thomson Con Committee
26 Apr 2017
“Performance and Role of Key Education and Skills Bodies” (Education Scotland Response)
Yes, convener. I looked back to the implementation group’s inception in 2011. In September that year, Dr Maxwell told our predecessor committee: “my vision is of an education system that is based on a strong national consensus about the purposes of education and the commit...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
27 Apr 2017
Section 23 Report
On page 14, paragraph 23 starts with: “Individual directorates and programmes are also identifying the staff and skills they need to implement and manage the financial powers in the Scotland Acts.” Paragraph 24 says: “The Scottish Government recognises the significant staff...
Ross Thomson (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
25 May 2017
“Principles for a digital future: Lessons learned from public sector ICT projects”
When I read the key principles, particularly the principle on planning, I was amazed at how, in some ways, the report seemed to be stating the obvious with its reference to the need for the right skills throughout a project. Often those skills have been lacking; indeed, we hav...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
25 May 2017
“Principles for a digital future: Lessons learned from public sector ICT projects”
You have partly answered my second question, which was about what the Scottish Government is doing. I appreciate that it is taking the time to ensure that people are trained and given the necessary skills. When we looked at the CAP payments process, we saw that staff morale w...
Ross Thomson Con Chamber
08 Jun 2016
Named Person Policy
I am glad that I can advise Mark McDonald that, due to my intervention, a report will be coming to the October meeting of the education committee that will detail the full cost of the implementation of the named person policy from August. I am glad that we have achieved that. ...
Ross Thomson (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
15 Jun 2016
Interests
I have no interests to declare other than what is noted in my entry in the register of interests.
Ross Thomson (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
29 Jun 2016
Scottish Government Priorities
Yes. I wanted to follow on from Johann Lamont’s point about resources and provision. I do not know whether the cabinet secretary is aware of this, but there is a report in The Press and Journal today in which a leading educational expert says that we could risk a lost generati...
Ross Thomson (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
07 Sep 2016
Further and Higher Education
Colin Beattie has beaten me to it; I wanted to look at the drop-out rate and the reason for it. I have quite a broad question about the impact of college mergers and regionalisation. We have had reports from the funding council and Audit Scotland, but what criteria do you in ...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
07 Sep 2016
Further and Higher Education
Yes.
Ross Thomson (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
14 Sep 2016
Named Persons (Update)
For the sake of absolute clarity, is the scheme that was introduced in the Highland Council area in 2008 exactly the same as the scheme that would have been introduced on 31 August this year?
Ross Thomson Con Committee
14 Sep 2016
Named Persons (Update)
In that case, why has the Scottish Government kept using Highland Council as the example for all local authorities across Scotland to follow?
Ross Thomson Con Committee
14 Sep 2016
Named Persons (Update)
Following on from Liz Smith’s line of questioning about whether local authorities have been acting lawfully following the judgment of the Supreme Court, I see that a number of local authorities are proceeding with the policy and others have taken the guidance off their website...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
14 Sep 2016
Named Persons (Update)
Will you invite professionals such as Maggie Mellon, the Scottish Parent Teacher Council and even people from the no to named person campaign to be part of the forthcoming engagement process? Will you attend any sessions with parents and practitioners to hear their concerns?
Ross Thomson Con Committee
14 Sep 2016
Named Persons (Update)
Thank you, cabinet secretary. I appreciate your response, although I give a gentle reminder that the no to named person campaign represents the weight of parental opinion as well. For clarification, will there be a consultation paper at the end of the three months?
Ross Thomson Con Committee
14 Sep 2016
Attainment
I have a brief supplementary on Liz Smith’s line of questioning. According to the Scottish Parliament information centre briefing paper, Education Scotland has stated that the “new funding will reach around 95 per cent of schools in Scotland.” Which are the 5 per cent that w...
Ross Thomson (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
21 Sep 2016
Children’s Services
I want to touch on allowances for kinship carers. I know that changes were made so that they are equivalent to what is paid to foster carers and that is what local authorities are doing. In Aberdeen, the cost of that is £0.5 million. It was welcome to hear that the Scottish Go...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
21 Sep 2016
Children’s Services
The statistics on outcomes for care leavers show that there was welcome progress from 2009 to 2012, when the percentage going to a positive destination rose from 57 per cent up to 78 per cent. From 2012 to 2015, the percentage remained fairly static; there was a slight dip fro...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
21 Sep 2016
Children’s Services
It is interesting that around 36 per cent of care leavers go into further education. That is quite a substantial number, and it is welcome. However, I mentioned a slight dip in positive destinations. Has there been any impact in respect of changes that have been made in the co...
Ross Thomson (North East Scotland) (Con) Con Committee
28 Sep 2016
Curriculum for Excellence
I will follow up on the theme of how we go about reducing bureaucracy. The cabinet secretary was before the committee not all that long ago and he emphasised that he wants to look at how to reduce bureaucracy, duplication and teacher workload, and in his statement to Parliamen...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
28 Sep 2016
Curriculum for Excellence
Absolutely. For example, I represent North East Scotland and we have the northern alliance, through which councils work together to address issues, particularly in relation to teacher shortages. Speaking to educationists in Aberdeen city and shire, it seems that they do not ha...
Ross Thomson Con Committee
28 Sep 2016
Curriculum for Excellence
I know that local authorities work with schools to put in place the school improvement plans and that they are often set for a year but that they can look further ahead. In my area, when we considered making changes to ensure that there was some teacher training about the dang...
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 12 January 2017

12 Jan 2017 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Education and Skills Organisations (Performance and Role)
Thomson, Ross Con North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

I, too, extend my thanks to the Education and Skills Committee convener for opening the debate, and recognise the contribution of all committee members who, since May last year, have worked extremely well together to scrutinise the public bodies and agencies responsible for delivering Scottish education.

The thrust of my speech will be on the SQA and Education Scotland.

I, along with Fulton MacGregor, had the opportunity to visit the SQA in Glasgow to discuss a range of issues with officials prior to our formal evidence session in the Education and Skills Committee on 23 November. That was extremely helpful.

From both the visit and the evidence that the committee heard from Dr Janet Brown, it is clear that, with the SQA going through an intense period of assessment redesign for diet 18, on top of its programme of transformation—which is beyond the commercial activity that it undertakes and business as usual—there are quite serious resource issues.

In answering my question on that very issue, Dr Brown confirmed that the SQA fully expects “to require additional resources” and that, in developing and delivering the new qualifications, it “will be a challenge” to engage with teachers—the very people who we expect to deliver the qualifications. As both Daniel Johnson and Ross Greer mentioned, that comes at a time when the committee has received a substantial body of evidence from teachers that communication from the SQA is poor and that there has been a clear breakdown in trust.

One submission stated:

“I am afraid that my current experience of the SQA is almost entirely negative ... Documentation is highly complex, repetitive and difficult to access”.

To quote my committee colleague Johann Lamont, the SQA is living in a “parallel universe” if it thinks that it has a “strong working relationship” with teachers.

Similarly, in responding to the Education Committee’s survey, a majority of teachers expressed a view that Education Scotland does not improve schooling and that it either contributed “not at all” or “a little” to building a world-class curriculum, improving performance or promoting high-quality professional learning.

The committee’s evidence has pointed to teachers being swamped by guidance and documentation. One teacher cited 81 pages of guidance in five different documents across three different websites. The amount of bureaucracy has caused committee members to warn that the SQA is

“in danger of sinking in a sea of jargon”.—[Official Report, Education and Skills Committee, 23 November 2016; c 20.]

That is almost identical to the concerns raised in relation to Education Scotland, which prompted action to remove 90 per cent of 20,000 pages of examples and case studies in a move to reduce and to clarify guidance.

Further, there was serious criticism from teachers that some exams were the worst they had ever seen. Mistakes and inaccuracies plagued national 5 computing exams and higher maths and geography. In his evidence to the committee, the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills stated:

“It is intolerable if there are errors ... in exam papers”.—[Official Report, Education and Skills Committee, 2 November 2016; c 20.]

Dr Janet Brown stated:

“We should not have errors in our exam papers”,—[Official Report, Education and Skills Committee, 23 November 2016; c 9.]

yet those errors are happening. Teachers raised concerns with the committee, saying that

“There have been so many mistakes—from the exam to the UASP”—

a unit assessment support package—

“and ... we no longer trust anything that comes from”

the SQA.

That issue has been touched on by members, particularly Fulton MacGregor. I have to admit that I draw a slightly different conclusion on exams overall, because there is powerful and consistent criticism from teachers about the lack of effective scrutiny and transparency. The SQA believes that mistakes are happening because

“people are working extremely hard”—[Official Report, Education and Skills Committee, 23 November 2016; c 9.]

and that there is a need for it to have “appropriate engagements with institutions” in place to improve quality assurance.

From the evidence, it is clear that the resource issues and failings in leadership need to be addressed. The fundamental fact is that the SQA and Education Scotland have lost the trust and confidence of teachers and that should raise the most serious of concerns for us all. If teachers do not have faith in them, how on earth can we expect parents to have faith in those institutions and to have faith that the system provides quality education to their children?

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James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
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Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
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Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
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John Swinney SNP
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Daniel Johnson Lab
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Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Daniel Johnson Lab
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Fulton MacGregor (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) SNP
As a member of the Education and Skills Committee, I have great pleasure in contributing to this debate, and I want to start my contribution by paying tribut...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Sorry to interrupt, Mr MacGregor. Are members finding that the sound through the microphones is not so clear? Members indicated agreement.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I ask the people who are responsible for the recording to do something about the microphones so that the sound is clearer. I am sorry to stop you in your s...
Fulton MacGregor SNP
Thanks, Presiding Officer. On 16 November, I visited the SQA offices in Glasgow, along with my committee colleague Ross Thomson. Therefore, I think that it ...
Liz Smith Con
The member makes an important point when he says that scrutiny is not always about something being bad; it is about something being good, too. However, given...
Fulton MacGregor SNP
I would like to continue and to develop my point further, and I thank the member for making that intervention. I was going on to say that the views of those ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We have some time in hand, so I can give members a minute or so more to accommodate interventions. 15:16
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
On 16 November 2016, Dr John Kemp, the interim director of the Scottish Further and Higher Education Funding Council, appeared before the Education and Skill...
Gillian Martin SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Liam Kerr Con
I will not, because it is important that members hear this. If Gillian Martin wants to write to me afterwards, I undertake to respond.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am afraid that that is rather pompous, but go for it. Laughter.
Liam Kerr Con
I want to make sure that I get all my words in, Deputy Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I would give you an extra minute if you were to take an intervention, but it is up to you.
Liam Kerr Con
Oh, go on, then. Laughter.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That was not very graciously put—but there you are, Ms Martin.
Gillian Martin SNP
I am grateful to Liam Kerr for allowing me to make this intervention. He will know that I used to work in one of the colleges that he is talking about. He is...
Liam Kerr Con
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John Swinney SNP
Will Liam Kerr give way?