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Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will move both the amendments in my name. Amendment 24 would insert, under the heading “General principles”, the following provision: “In exercising its functions under sections 1 to 4 in respect of an applicant for assistance in pursuance of section 2, a local authority m...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
03 Mar 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill
I am the newest member of the Welfare Reform Committee and it has been a very interesting time for me to join the committee as the bill has made its passage through the Parliament. This is a significant piece of welfare legislation and it is crucial that we get it right to pr...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
23 May 2012
Welfare Reform (Further Provision) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate at stage 1 of the Welfare Reform (Further Provision) (Scotland) Bill. I share the Welfare Reform Committee’s concerns about the UK Welfare Reform Act 2012, as the reforms hit the poorest and most vulnerable hardest. They are suf...
Margaret McDougall Lab Chamber
03 Mar 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 8 relates to annual reporting. It would require the Scottish Government to prepare an initial report, giving information about the delivery of the welfare funds, that would be laid before Parliament on or before 30 June 2016. Subsequent reports would be laid before P...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 31 relates to the production of an annual report. It requests that the Scottish ministers “prepare an initial report giving information about the delivery of welfare funds.” That report should be put before Parliament on or before 30 June 2016, with subsequent rep...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I note everything that has been said, but the third sector wants the review and was disappointed that that was left out of the bill. It has said that the welfare fund is part of wider welfare reform mitigation activity and that it could form part of the ministerial requirement...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
26 Nov 2015
Women and Social Security
I was a member of the Welfare Reform Committee when evidence was being taken on this topic in June and, during the evidence sessions, we learned that inequality for women still exists within our society and that the recent welfare reforms have increased that inequality. Women ...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
Good morning, panel. As we have heard today and in previous evidence, all the welfare reforms are putting a lot of pressure on local authority budgets—that is very much the case in relation to the demand on social services in particular. I am interested in what Stephen Brown ...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
02 Jun 2015
Women and Welfare
Clare Adamson mentioned children’s services, which we heard evidence on a few weeks back. One thing that a witness said about North Ayrshire Council sticks in my mind because that is the area that I live in. It was that destitution among families presenting to the local author...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
03 Feb 2015
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Scotland
I will be brief. My question is on how expenditure will be adjusted. For public services in year 1 there will be a block grant adjustment for everything in the departmental expenditure limit. In subsequent years, Scotland would receive a population share of any change in spend...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
03 Mar 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 7 seeks to amend the provision inserted by Kevin Stewart’s amendment that was passed at stage 2 on respect for, and the dignity of, applicants for assistance. It adds that the particular needs and choices of applicants are to be considered by the local authority. Th...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
03 Mar 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill
East Dunbartonshire Council said in evidence that it received £43,970 in administration costs, while the total cost of running the Scottish welfare fund in the area last year was £224,232. The funding gap had to be met by the local authority. There is a real issue with funding...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
12 Mar 2015
Mental Health (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Mental health problems can affect any one of us. They are not constrained by class, education or financial status, yet this is an issue that is often overlooked or misunderstood. In the most recent Scottish social attitudes survey, 26 per cent of people said that they had exp...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
The United Kingdom Government’s perception is that it is the children of people who for one reason or another are unable to work who are suffering, but the issue relates not only to people who are out of work. Do you have any statistics on the number of children whose parents ...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
One or two of you have pointed out that people are not actually using the appeals system as well as they might. Quite often, third sector bodies such as Citizens Advice Scotland help people with appeals. I know from personal experience that Citizens Advice Scotland is so inund...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
23 Apr 2014
Scotland’s Economic Future Post-2014
We should grasp every opportunity that we can to increase the use of the living wage. I feel that the Procurement Reform (Scotland) Bill provides a good opportunity to do that. On equalities and what is happening on welfare reform, if there were an independent Scotland, what ...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
21 May 2014
Scotland’s Economic Future Post-2014
Good morning, panel. Throughout the inquiry, we have heard from witnesses that taxation and the welfare state would be much better if we were independent. What is your view on what the income tax levels would be? The people whom we talk to when we are out and about are worrie...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
07 May 2014
Scotland’s Economic Future Post-2014
Good morning, panel. I will continue on the subject of inequalities, welfare benefits and taxation in the Nordic countries. If Scotland was to adopt some of the Nordic countries’ policies, what levels of taxation would there have to be to raise their levels of welfare benefits...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
13 Jan 2015
Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Communities and Pensioners’ Rights
Good morning, cabinet secretary, and welcome to your new post. Perhaps I should have stated that I am of pensionable age, too—Interruption. I know. So here we go—Interruption. Yes, indeed—maybe a bit more cranky and more creaky as well. I am sure that we have lots to add. I w...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
No.
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Can I—
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Ken Macintosh answered Annabel Goldie’s question on sanctions. The judicial review option is there, and the user can appeal, so I have no concerns in that regard. Kevin Stewart and the minister have said that there are limited funds available to local authorities. We know tha...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I support Ken Macintosh’s amendment 25. I have heard the arguments against it, but choice does not have to mean more cost. Some of the bulk purchases are set, and that is it. However, we all know that sales go on and that there are opportunities to reduce the cost. Ken Macinto...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I support amendment 27. I do not understand how there can be a constitutional reason for not including the provision. It will add to the bill someone who may be a member of a family who would not be covered by the bill as it is drafted. The Child Poverty Action Group is very ...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Ken Macintosh said that the DWP made decisions very quickly on occasions. I am not suggesting that decisions were always made quickly, but they could be made quickly. We are moving to a grants system from a loans system, so there would be no requirement to investigate whether ...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
If that means that the information would be brought to the committee regularly, that would suffice.
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
27 Jan 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will press the amendment, to test it.
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
03 Feb 2015
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Scotland
You are politicising the issue by saying that. It is clear from all the evidence that we have heard today and from previous evidence that there is a direct correlation between welfare reform and the rise in the use of food banks. I will move on to a different aspect. I have a...
Margaret McDougall Lab Chamber
03 Mar 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Oh. May I just thank Alex Johnstone and Tavish Scott for their support? I had hoped that the minister would support having a specific report, given the importance of the welfare funds and the bill. I press amendment 8.
Margaret McDougall Lab Chamber
03 Mar 2015
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill
Does the minister agree that local authorities are underfunded to administer the welfare fund?
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
10 Mar 2015
“The Cumulative Impact of Welfare Reform on Households in Scotland”
Thank you for your report and presentation, which have been a bit of an eye-opener. The impact of the reforms has been devastating for a lot of families in Scotland and across the UK, as you know. I have a question on tax credit. Are all your figures based on 100 per cent of ...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
10 Mar 2015
“The Cumulative Impact of Welfare Reform on Households in Scotland”
Is the Treasury going just on the historical figures for claims? I assume that that is how it is done.
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
10 Mar 2015
“The Cumulative Impact of Welfare Reform on Households in Scotland”
So the people who are in work, who find for one reason or another that they are not getting the benefits that they previously got and who have to take a zero-hours contract job are not being counted anywhere or taken into account in the figures.
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
10 Mar 2015
“The Cumulative Impact of Welfare Reform on Households in Scotland”
If someone came off unemployment benefit, for example, and went into zero-hours contract work, which would involve tax credits, that would be a change in benefit.
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
10 Mar 2015
“The Cumulative Impact of Welfare Reform on Households in Scotland”
I have a question that is not about the report; it concerns something that I read about new pensioner claimants. Currently, a 70-year-old lady in a three-bedroom council house is not affected by the bedroom tax. However, I believe that someone who became a pensioner now and wa...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
10 Mar 2015
“The Cumulative Impact of Welfare Reform on Households in Scotland”
So pensioners will—
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
Can I come back on that?
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
21 Apr 2015
Children’s Services (Welfare Reform Impacts)
If sanctions are increasing but the number of appeals is not increasing in line with that, we must be missing a trick somewhere, because the message is not getting out to the clients who are being sanctioned. How can we overcome that?
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
05 May 2015
Your Say-Personal Independence Payments
As we have heard, it is difficult for people who are applying to know what is available to them. People also need to know that the support agencies are there. Therefore, it is difficult for people to find out about it all. A gentleman from the UK Government came along to spea...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Women and Welfare
Has any research been done to establish how many women have been sanctioned for missing an appointment because of care responsibilities? Often, women will have their appointment while their child is at school, but the child could be sick and they will then be unable to keep th...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Women and Welfare
I want to ask about universal credit. I remember when it was at the roll-out stage and consultation was still going on, and I am sure that recommendations were made that, if there was domestic abuse in a household, universal credit should be paid differently—that it should be ...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Women and Welfare
What about domestic abuse? Is there any evidence about that yet?
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Women and Welfare
I was also in Niddrie yesterday, and it was suggested that if the Scottish Government was to increase a benefit that it has devolved powers over—for example, carers allowance, which has been mentioned—universal credit would be reduced by the same amount, so people would not ga...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Committee
02 Jun 2015
Women and Welfare
Good morning. On the issue of sanctions, I note that the submission from Inclusion Scotland states: “Sanctions for lone parents on JSA have risen from under 200 per month prior to 2008 to 4,700 per month now.” That is shocking, yet ministers are in denial about it. It is jus...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
02 Jun 2015
Women and Welfare
Since 2012, single parents have had to claim JSA from when their youngest child turned five. I read with concern One Parent Families Scotland’s submission, which says: “In addition ... sanctions can now also be imposed on single mothers claiming Income Support (when their chi...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
02 Jun 2015
Women and Welfare
That is just the tip of the iceberg because, as universal credit rolls out, the stringent regime is going to get worse.
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
02 Jun 2015
Women and Welfare
One example that we were given in the submissions was of a mother who had gone to sign on with her two or three children, as it was during the summer holidays. She was sanctioned because the officer said, “You’re not available for work because you have children there.” She did...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
09 Jun 2015
Citizens Advice Bureaux Visits
I visited the Irvine CAB office. It is just across the road from my office, so we communicate regularly. I thank the staff there for showing me around on the day and for the information that they gave me. In particular, I thank the operations manager, Alan Whyte. There was a...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
12 Nov 2015
Social Security in Scotland (Future Delivery)
The Scotland Bill will give this Parliament, for the first time, significant powers over social security. I welcome the work of the Welfare Reform Committee on this matter and congratulate it on focusing on how those powers can be implemented to deliver a fairer social securit...
Margaret McDougall Lab Chamber
12 Nov 2015
Social Security in Scotland (Future Delivery)
That is what I am saying. We need to start thinking about them now; we cannot wait until they are upon us. We need some sort of plan for what our new social security system will look like. We should be setting out a positive vision for the future of welfare. We need a welfare...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
12 Jan 2012
High-interest Pay Day Loans
I, too, thank Margaret Burgess for highlighting this incredibly important issue.The recent R3 report that is mentioned in the motion found that 45 per cent of the population struggled to make it to pay day without running out of money and that 3.5 million adults have considere...
Margaret McDougall Lab Chamber
02 Feb 2012
Scottish Executive Question Time · Prison Visiting Committees
My question has been superseded by this morning’s debate. The cabinet secretary said that a lot of prisoners do not know about the service. Surely, that is a failing in the system and we should do more to promote the visiting committees rather than replace that first-class ser...
Margaret McDougall Lab Chamber
23 May 2012
Welfare Reform (Further Provision) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
In a second.A series of interim arrangements will be put in place till then.
Margaret McDougall Lab Chamber
23 May 2012
Welfare Reform (Further Provision) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am in my last minute.
Margaret McDougall Lab Chamber
23 May 2012
Welfare Reform (Further Provision) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Already cash-strapped councils will find it very difficult to cope with the costs of administration and new software, particularly if they do not know what the details of the new system will be, and claimants will be worried that vital support will not be there when they need ...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
23 Oct 2012
Greenhouse Gas Emissions (Annual Target Report)
The Scottish Building Federation and many non-governmental organisations such as Scottish Environment LINK have highlighted that the green investment package and the national retrofit programme are not sufficient to reduce carbon emissions from Scotland’s homes. What discussio...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
31 Jan 2013
Child Benefit
I am privileged to speak from the Labour Party benches on this issue. We have a history of supporting children and families: we increased child benefit, introduced child tax credits and have fought against the current child benefit reforms every step of the way.The Tories and ...
Margaret McDougall Lab Chamber
04 Jun 2013
Underemployment
I think that there are things that we can do in this Parliament to bring about change. The Scottish Government must use its substantial influence to ensure that the incidence of zero-hours contracts is minimised if it is serious about ensuring a fair labour market that protect...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
11 Dec 2013
Finance
Unsurprisingly, I will not support the Conservative motion. I cannot support the lack of reality that underlies the sentiment that would see working people and the vulnerable in our society worse off. The truth is that, since David Cameron came to office, working people are on...
Margaret McDougall Lab Committee
21 May 2014
Scotland’s Economic Future Post-2014
Good morning, gentlemen. Dennis Canavan, you mentioned in your introductory remarks that fairer taxation and welfare services would be one of the benefits of having an independent Scotland. How would that be funded? How much of it would come from taxpayers in Scotland?
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Welfare Reform Committee 27 January 2015

27 Jan 2015 · S4 · Welfare Reform Committee
Item of business
Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will move both the amendments in my name. Amendment 24 would insert, under the heading “General principles”, the following provision: “In exercising its functions under sections 1 to 4 in respect of an applicant for assistance in pursuance of section 2, a local authority must take reasonable steps to facilitate the following principles— (a) that the right to dignity of the applicant is to be respected, (b) that the particular needs and choices of the applicant are to be considered.” The amendment ensures that, while “exercising its functions under sections 1 to 4 in respect of an applicant for assistance in pursuance of section 2,” a local authority must take all reasonable steps to ensure that respect for and the dignity of the applicant are taken into account, and that the needs and choices of the applicant are considered. That principle is supported by organisations such as the Scottish Council for Voluntary Organisations, the Scottish campaign on welfare reform, the Scottish Churches Parliamentary Office, Engender and the Poverty Alliance, which, like me, believe that dignity and respect should be the cornerstone of our approach to welfare. It is crucial that we embed the principles of dignity and compassion in the proposed legislation at this stage. Furthermore, in chapter 4 of the Scottish Government’s document “Scotland’s Future”, there are numerous references to welfare and dignity, such as: “the benefits system should be fair, transparent and sympathetic to the challenges faced by people receiving them, respecting personal dignity, equality and human rights”. Paragraph (b) in the proposed new section relates to that point, as it means that the applicant would have a degree of choice in the matter. I have spoken to some people about the issue, and I am sure that many others around the table will have heard about the experiences of constituents. Under the old system, someone could be provided with an item such as a cooker that did not fit into their kitchen or a washing machine that did not suit them, as they had disabilities and could not operate it. If they had a degree of choice and were able to go and buy an item that suited their needs, that would allow them an option. The bottom line is that we are dealing with vulnerable people and people who have fallen on hard times. To uphold their dignity and respect, we must also uphold the choice and the needs of the individual. One size does not fit all when it comes to welfare. Given the wide range of organisations that want dignity to be enshrined in the welfare system and the fact that the Scottish Government’s own document highlights dignity and respect in the welfare system as a key tenet, I think that it is reasonable and responsible to include the principles at the front of the bill. There has already been an example: in the Social Care (Self-directed Support) (Scotland) Act 2013, the general principles are on page 1. That was amendment 24, which I move. On amendment—

In the same item of business

The Convener Lab
Our second agenda item is consideration of the Welfare Funds (Scotland) Bill at stage 2. I remind ministerial officials that they are not permitted to part...
The Convener Lab
The first group of amendments is on general principles on respect for and the dignity of the applicant. Amendment 24, in the name of Margaret McDougall, is g...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I will move both the amendments in my name. Amendment 24 would insert, under the heading “General principles”, the following provision: “In exercising its ...
The Convener Lab
We are just dealing with amendment 24, Margaret. Are you also speaking to amendment 30 in the name of Kevin Stewart?
Margaret McDougall Lab
No.
The Convener Lab
We will come to your other amendment in another group. Kevin Stewart will speak to amendment 30.
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
I share the belief that applicants should be treated with respect, and I would like to ensure that their dignity is preserved at all times. With the changes ...
The Convener Lab
I will open it to other members to comment.
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I have a lot of sympathy with both the intention and objectives of both amendments 24 and 30, but I have a technical concern. What is the sanction if a claim...
Margaret McDougall Lab
Can I—
The Convener Lab
Margaret, you will get an opportunity to wind up at the end of the discussion. I will come back to you after the debate. Ken Macintosh wishes to speak.
Ken Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab) Lab
Thank you very much, convener—Laughter. They seem to have turned up the microphones since I left the committee. I congratulate both Margaret McDougall and K...
The Minister for Housing and Welfare (Margaret Burgess) SNP
It has always been a priority that welfare funds should be delivered in such a way that the dignity of welfare fund users is preserved. I agree with the comm...
The Convener Lab
We come back to Margaret McDougall to wind up the debate and to press or withdraw her amendment 24. Margaret, it is your opportunity to answer the questions ...
Margaret McDougall Lab
Ken Macintosh answered Annabel Goldie’s question on sanctions. The judicial review option is there, and the user can appeal, so I have no concerns in that re...
The Convener Lab
The question is, that amendment 24 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Convener Lab
There will be a division.
Ken Macintosh Lab
Do I get a vote?
The Convener Lab
No. You get the opportunity to speak, but not to vote. For McDougall, Margaret (West Scotland) (Lab) McMahon, Michael (Uddingston and Bellshill) (Lab) Ag...
The Convener Lab
The result of the division is: For 2, Against 5, Abstentions 0. Amendment 24 disagreed to. Section 2—Use of welfare funds: assistance for short term need...
The Convener Lab
Amendment 25, in the name of Ken Macintosh, is grouped with amendments 26 and 28.
Ken Macintosh Lab
As we know, the bill places no restrictions on the circumstances in which a local authority can decide to make an award in kind to an applicant; that is, in ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
We heard a lot during the course of evidence taking and read a number of written observations about those issues. One of the key things that we need to put o...
Annabel Goldie Con
I have no doubt whatsoever about the good intentions behind the amendment, but I return to my observations about amendment 24, in the name of Margaret McDoug...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
As other members have done, I acknowledge the good intentions behind amendment 25. It is important to remember that the people about whom we are talking are ...
Margaret McDougall Lab
I support Ken Macintosh’s amendment 25. I have heard the arguments against it, but choice does not have to mean more cost. Some of the bulk purchases are set...
Clare Adamson (Central Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I have listened to the arguments. On the view that choice would not cost more, I think that that flies in the face of evidence that was provided by the Conve...
Margaret Burgess SNP
There are a number of things to take into account when considering amendments 25, 26 and 28, which would, taken together, result in limits being placed on th...
Ken Macintosh Lab
I have been both slightly encouraged and slightly discouraged by the debate. First, I am slightly concerned that I perhaps did not explain, or that people mi...
Annabel Goldie Con
Am I allowed to intervene?