Committee
Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee 30 April 2014
30 Apr 2014 · S4 · Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee
Item of business
Scotland’s Economic Future Post-2014
From what I have heard this morning, until 2020 there will have to be a whole lot of negotiation around supply of electricity, particularly if there is an independent Scotland. It will take a lot of political will to get to an agreement. What will happen post-2020? Will we be looking at a new EMR? We will certainly be looking at new targets. This is about the long term, is it not? How will it affect investment in the long term?10:15
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The Convener (Murdo Fraser)
Con
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to this, the 13th meeting of the Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee in 2014. I welcome members, witnesses and ...
Dr Nicola McEwen (University of Edinburgh)
In terms of a common trading market, I do not see a problem at all. When I was doing interviews out in the Nordic states, one thing that came through was the...
The Convener
Con
I will bring in Dr Toke in a moment; I just want to follow up one point with Dr McEwen.To what extent would the rest of the UK, post-independence, rely on Sc...
Dr McEwen
There is a lot of debate about that, and contingencies. If all the offshore wind happened in the way that people would like it to and as promises have sugges...
The Convener
Con
I will let Dr Toke in as he was trying to come in earlier, and then I will see if the others want to comment.
Dr David Toke (University of Aberdeen)
It is quite clear what is likely to happen in the event of independence in that respect. After 2020—I think that things will probably remain much the same as...
The Convener
Con
I will bring in the other panellists, if they want to comment. Does Martin McAdam want to say anything?
Martin McAdam (Aquamarine Power)
Yes. I have a couple of important points on the idea of a single market. First, there are, as the previous contributors have said, very successful single mar...
Eric Machiels (Infinis Energy)
The reason why our company, as a private investor in long-term generation infrastructure, finds doing business in Scotland so attractive is that it has a uni...
The Convener
Con
The integrated energy market is very important as far as your business is concerned. If there is a yes vote in the referendum, what must be done to provide t...
Eric Machiels
Essentially, we need two grown-up Governments that sit down together and agree on a long-term plan for the continued management of that integrated market for...
Martin McAdam
The bulk of the renewable energy that has been constructed in Scotland is supported under the renewables obligation certificate scheme. In order to be an ele...
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP)
SNP
Good morning. There is general agreement that we need to look at alternative energy sources for the future. Earlier this week, the committee was in Aberdeen—...
Eric Machiels
EMR creates uncertainty because, for the past decade, most of the renewable investors have grown very familiar with the very effective RO mechanisms. As Mart...
Dennis Robertson
SNP
So you agree that in future we will need a mix of onshore and offshore renewable energy—in other words, wind and wave energy.
Eric Machiels
Exactly.
Dennis Robertson
SNP
If there were to be a yes vote in the referendum, what would you be asking the Scottish Government for on 19 September to give you the stability that you req...
Eric Machiels
We would be very keen to clarify to any Government with the type of ambitious, long-term strategic objectives that the Scottish Government has laid out for t...
Dennis Robertson
SNP
Of course, the energy market and the renewables sector in particular will also provide job and skills opportunities.
Eric Machiels
You are exactly right.
Dennis Robertson
SNP
Do any of the other panellists wish to comment?
Dr Toke
I agree with everything that Mr Machiels has said but my question is why no one is thinking of the possibility of a no vote.
Dennis Robertson
SNP
I was going to come to that. My question was about what you would be looking for from a Scottish Government in the event of a yes vote in the referendum. To ...
Dr Toke
I hope that we do not go on with business as usual, because I just do not think that such an approach is adequate for reasons that have already been discusse...
Dennis Robertson
SNP
Surely it is everyone’s problem.
Dr Toke
Sure, but as far as financial allocations are concerned, given that Scotland comprises almost a third of the British landmass and commands a similar proporti...
Martin McAdam
I would not say that I am a policy expert but I think that when you formulate policy, particularly in relation to energy, you have to consider security of su...
The Convener
Con
I am not going to respond to Mr McAdam’s point about nuclear power, because that will take us down a whole different route—
Martin McAdam
But it is expensive.
Dennis Robertson
SNP
Admit that it is not cheap, convener.