Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 21 March 2013
21 Mar 2013 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Scotland’s Financial Strength
I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate. Instead of following the example of the Government, distorting figures to make an argument for separation, I will take the time that has been allocated to me to encourage the Government to consider the resources that we should be investing in to secure a stable future. The people of Scotland deserve to know that there can be more stability in their future—stability that cannot be guaranteed by the changeable value of our oil reserves. Our future depends on utilising our greatest resource: the people of Scotland.
If the SNP Government was not so distracted by separation, it would see the importance of investing in colleges instead of cutting their budget by £35 million and it would invest in real apprenticeship schemes instead of spinning rhetoric. If it had invested the autumn statement capital consequentials in housing at a level of £330 million over two years, it could have provided a boost to the jobs market and stimulated the economy at the same time—not to mention helping to provide homes for the 45,322 people who were registered homeless in Scotland in 2010-11.
Given the most recent employment statistics, which revealed that female unemployment has gone up by 8,000 in the last quarter, the Government should be focusing on investment and training opportunities and on reversing the cuts to colleges, which so disproportionately affect women. Although I welcome the rise in employment in general, it is not good enough to overlook the negative points in the most recent unemployment figures, especially when North Ayrshire, which I represent, has a 6.8 per cent unemployment rate, which is the highest in Scotland, whereas that of Aberdeenshire is only 1.2 per cent, which is the lowest in Scotland. That is not only bad news for my constituents; it paints a broader picture of an SNP Government that is reliant on jobs in the oil and gas industry to boost levels of employment in one part of the country while it refuses to invest in further education and skills training in other parts. That inequality must stop. How can we hope to secure our future without investing in the future working generations of the country?
But no: instead of decisively leading Scotland out of recession by training and educating the future workforce, the SNP Government is busy manipulating facts and figures to suit its arguments on separation.
If the SNP Government was not so distracted by separation, it would see the importance of investing in colleges instead of cutting their budget by £35 million and it would invest in real apprenticeship schemes instead of spinning rhetoric. If it had invested the autumn statement capital consequentials in housing at a level of £330 million over two years, it could have provided a boost to the jobs market and stimulated the economy at the same time—not to mention helping to provide homes for the 45,322 people who were registered homeless in Scotland in 2010-11.
Given the most recent employment statistics, which revealed that female unemployment has gone up by 8,000 in the last quarter, the Government should be focusing on investment and training opportunities and on reversing the cuts to colleges, which so disproportionately affect women. Although I welcome the rise in employment in general, it is not good enough to overlook the negative points in the most recent unemployment figures, especially when North Ayrshire, which I represent, has a 6.8 per cent unemployment rate, which is the highest in Scotland, whereas that of Aberdeenshire is only 1.2 per cent, which is the lowest in Scotland. That is not only bad news for my constituents; it paints a broader picture of an SNP Government that is reliant on jobs in the oil and gas industry to boost levels of employment in one part of the country while it refuses to invest in further education and skills training in other parts. That inequality must stop. How can we hope to secure our future without investing in the future working generations of the country?
But no: instead of decisively leading Scotland out of recession by training and educating the future workforce, the SNP Government is busy manipulating facts and figures to suit its arguments on separation.
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith)
Lab
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SNP
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Willie Rennie (Mid Scotland and Fife) (LD)
LD
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John Swinney
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Willie Rennie
LD
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SNP
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Con
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SNP
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Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP)
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SNP
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Lab
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John Swinney
SNP
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Iain Gray (East Lothian) (Lab)
Lab
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John Swinney
SNP
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Iain Gray
Lab
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John Swinney
SNP
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Gavin Brown
Con
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
John Swinney
SNP
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Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green)
Green
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
The cabinet secretary is concluding.
John Swinney
SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
There is no spare time in the debate. You have a very tight nine minutes, Mr Macintosh.14:59
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Lab
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Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP)
SNP
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Ken Macintosh
Lab
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John Swinney
SNP
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Ken Macintosh
Lab
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SNP
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Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer
Lab
Last minute, Mr Macintosh.