Committee
Social Justice and Social Security Committee 25 January 2024
25 Jan 2024 · S6 · Social Justice and Social Security Committee
Item of business
Budget Scrutiny 2024-25
Thank you, convener, and good morning. The budget-setting process has been challenging, given the backdrop of continued austerity at Westminster and catastrophic cuts to Scotland’s block grant.? Our Barnett funding, which is driven by UK spending choices, has fallen by 1.2 per cent in real terms since the 2022-23 budget was presented.?? The UK Government did not inflation-proof its capital budget, which has resulted in an almost 10 per cent real-terms fall in our UK capital funding over the medium term. As a result, this Government has had to take some difficult decisions, but I am confident that we have prioritised our resources to deliver on our three missions of equality, opportunity and community. At the heart of this budget is the social contract between the Scottish Government and the people of Scotland, in which people’s tax contribution is based on their ability to pay and strong public services are understood as enabling a strong society and a growing economy. Those services include free prescriptions, free access to higher education, the baby box and the Scottish child payment. That is why, in the coming year, the draft budget allocates more than £3 billion to policies to tackle poverty and to protect people, as far as possible, during the on-going cost of living crisis.?? Those policies include supporting households by providing 1,140 hours of funded childcare for all three and four-year-olds and for eligible two-year-olds; providing free bus travel for more than 2 million people; and offering free school meals to all children in primaries 1 to 5, as well as to eligible children in other school years. We continue to build a Scottish social security system that has dignity, fairness and respect at its heart. In line with Scottish Fiscal Commission forecasts, we are investing a record £6.3 billion for benefits expenditure in 2024-25, providing support to more than 1.2 million people.? That money will go directly to those who need it most. We are investing just over £1 billion more than in 2023-24 and are supporting disabled people, supporting older people to heat their homes in winter and helping low-income families with their living costs. That investment is £1.1 billion more than the level of funding forecast to be received from the UK Government through the social security block grant adjustments. We are also increasing our unique benefit, the Scottish child payment, in line with inflation, to £26.70 a week, giving more support to the more than 329,000 under-16s who receive it. That investment continues to underline our commitment to do everything within the scope of our powers and budget to be relentless in our focus on meeting our statutory child poverty targets. I am pleased to announce that, alongside that significant investment, there will be additional funding this financial year of more than £0.5 million for local projects to tackle poverty and inequality. In 2023-24, our cash first fund and child poverty practice accelerator fund will support a total of 17 projects across the country to, respectively, improve flexible local access to cash in a crisis and develop new approaches to tackling child poverty. The Scottish Government’s draft budget for 2024-25 will enable those partnerships to continue providing vital evidence that can help to shape future policy and practice. In housing, inflationary pressures, the impacts of Brexit and wider market conditions have combined to trigger various issues, including rising construction costs and workforce challenges. The housing sector has done incredible work to deliver homes in those circumstances, and we continue to work with partners to mitigate the impacts. One of the most difficult choices that we have taken is to reduce funding for affordable housing. However, I can confirm that more £555 million will be made available in 2024-25, despite the failure of the UK Government to inflation-proof the capital budget. We have also maintained our homelessness and housing support resource budget at broadly similar levels to those in 2023-24, with £35 million allocated to specific action to end homelessness and reduce the number of households living in temporary accommodation.? That is in addition to homelessness funding provided through the local government settlement and an investment in discretionary housing payments of more than £90 million—an increase of more than £6 million—to mitigate the worst impacts of UK Government welfare reform. We are investing £45 million in Ukrainian resettlement, including £5 million of capital through a Ukraine long-term resettlement fund. Working to the principles of the “A Warm Scots Future” strategy, the Government will continue its partnership with the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, the Scottish Refugee Council and the volunteer community. The budget also includes a £41 million investment in the cladding remediation programme. We are committed to delivering fairer funding for the third sector. Therefore, in 2024-25, we will ensure prompt notification of grant awards to third sector bodies, increasing the number of multiyear awards, and review grant conditions. The agenda recognises the critical role that the third sector plays. The UK Government’s autumn statement was the worst-case scenario for Scotland following a decade of austerity, a hard Brexit and disastrous economic mismanagement at Westminster. Despite those challenges, I am pleased with the overall package of support in my portfolio and its contribution to the equality mission. I thank the committee for its pre-budget scrutiny and look forward to taking your questions.
In the same item of business
The Convener
SNP
Our next item is an evidence session on the budget for 2024-25. The committee’s pre-budget report was published in November and the Scottish Government provi...
The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice (Shirley-Anne Somerville)
SNP
Thank you, convener, and good morning. The budget-setting process has been challenging, given the backdrop of continued austerity at Westminster and catastr...
The Convener
SNP
Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. I will now invite members to ask questions. Initially, though, I am intrigued to hear a bit more from you on the cash...
Shirley-Anne Somerville
SNP
There are two parts to that funding. First, there is the child poverty practice accelerator fund, which supports nine local authorities with small-scale proj...
The Convener
SNP
To what extent has the £1 billion additional spend on social security benefits been funded through higher than expected income tax revenue?
Shirley-Anne Somerville
SNP
The additional spend does not come from one specific revenue stream, so it would not be correct to draw a line between a particular policy on income tax and ...
The Convener
SNP
I invite Katy Clark, who is joining us online, to ask questions.
Katy Clark (West Scotland) (Lab)
Lab
Cabinet secretary, why is the programme budget increasing when the programme business case suggested that it would be falling by this stage? Is the programme...
Shirley-Anne Somerville
SNP
The programme business case covers only resource and capital budgets, and it was published in February 2023. The Scottish Government’s draft budget for 2024-...
Katy Clark
Lab
The cabinet secretary may be able to keep the committee advised on that. Does her colleague want to add anything?
Stephen Kerr (Scottish Government)
Not really. In its annual audit, Audit Scotland pointed out that funding for transition would have to be found as part of the move of services from the progr...
Katy Clark
Lab
Given that that seems to be a changing situation, it would be helpful if the committee could be kept closely advised on it. Another issue is the new benefit...
Shirley-Anne Somerville
SNP
We do not provide cost estimates for individual benefits such as the two that the member mentions, because the Social Security Scotland system is an integrat...
Katy Clark
Lab
The committee will want to continue to scrutinise the new benefits. So, if the cabinet secretary will keep the committee advised, that will be much appreciated.
The Convener
SNP
I call James Dornan, who also joins us remotely.
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP)
SNP
Good morning, cabinet secretary. The Government’s response to the committee refers to spending of almost £3 billion in 2023-24 on tackling the cost of living...
Shirley-Anne Somerville
SNP
It is important that we continue to recognise the pressure on household budgets, which is why, since 2022-23, we have continued to allocate around £3 billion...
James Dornan
SNP
Would it be easier for the Government to send an itemised list of the policies that were included in the 2023-24 figure for addressing the cost of living, al...
Shirley-Anne Somerville
SNP
I am certainly happy to provide in writing some more information for the committee on what the budget has been for 2023-24 and what is forecast for 2024-25. ...
James Dornan
SNP
I, too, would prefer that you do not do that, cabinet secretary. Laughter. Given the continuing high levels of fuel poverty, what has the Scottish Governmen...
Shirley-Anne Somerville
SNP
We have had to make very difficult choices to balance the budget this year. Although the fuel insecurity fund is not committed for 2024-25, the further suppo...
James Dornan
SNP
Finally, it is well worth putting on the record again the fact that we are making record social security investments, in contrast with the welfare cuts that ...
Shirley-Anne Somerville
SNP
Decisions to reduce employability budget lines have not been easy to make, but in the challenging financial context they have, unfortunately, been necessary....
The Convener
SNP
Following the theme of child poverty and the cost of living, Marie McNair would like to ask a supplementary question.
Marie McNair (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP)
SNP
Good morning, cabinet secretary. Alongside the two-child policy and universal credit, the basic cap is a policy that denies families with children basic subs...
Shirley-Anne Somerville
SNP
The budget ensures that we continue to mitigate some of the worst excesses of UK Government decisions, and we will continue to do that next year. We have the...
Marie McNair
SNP
The Joseph Rowntree Foundation report backs up that point about poverty levels in the UK and makes the case for, as you mentioned, the essentials guarantee. ...
Shirley-Anne Somerville
SNP
The member is right to point to that recent work by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation. The JRF estimates that, if the universal credit standard allowance was se...
Marie McNair
SNP
Thank you. I will now—
The Convener
SNP
I am sorry, but can I stop you there? I am really conscious of the time.