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Plenary, 31 May 2007

31 May 2007 · S3 · Plenary
Item of business
Bridge Tolls
I was elected to Parliament less than a month ago and want to take the opportunity in my first speech to thank members throughout the chamber for their warm welcome. I also put on record my sincere thanks for the assistance that I have received from Parliament staff and civil servants, who have been extremely helpful in the first four weeks of my time here. I am very grateful for their welcome and support.

I am also indebted to the people of Edinburgh and the Lothians, who voted in unprecedented numbers for the SNP on 3 May and returned me as one of their representatives. I pledge to work hard and honestly to provide them with the representation in Parliament that they deserve.

It has been suggested to me by friends and new colleagues that members making their maiden speeches should try to avoid anything controversial. I listened to that advice and have chosen to address today's subject for debate.

I welcome the new uncontroversial political consensus that has emerged throughout Parliament on the abolition of tolls on bridges in the east of Scotland. The matter impacts greatly on the constituents of Edinburgh and the Lothians and it needs to be resolved. I am delighted that, in the new dawn of consensus politics in Scotland, there is agreement among all the major parties that we should abolish the bridge tolls. Election results are wonderful things: they focus the minds of all those who participate in the debate, and it seems that the process has had quite an effect on the thinking of Labour and the Liberal Democrats. I welcome them, even belatedly, to the spirit of harmony that is prevailing today.

I want the tolls on the Tay bridge to be abolished but, for a number of reasons, I want particularly the tolls on the Forth bridge to be abolished. It is iniquitous that tolls have been abolished on the Skye and Erskine bridges on the west coast of Scotland while tolls remain on both major road bridges on the east coast. The injustice of that situation needs to be rectified.

The tolls have an adverse impact on the economy of the region because they create a competitive disadvantage for businesses that operate in Fife and people who have to travel north from Edinburgh and the Lothians. Parliament has a duty to help to grow and nurture business, but the tolls present a clear financial burden to those who are based here and a disincentive to those who seek to relocate. Under the system of bridge tolls, businesses that rely on the road network to transport goods north from the central belt face a financial penalty if they choose to locate in West Lothian, Midlothian or Edinburgh. That is unacceptable to me and to my constituents. Businesses—particularly smaller businesses— deserve a fairer deal.

A recent investigation by Fife Chamber of Commerce estimated the direct cost of the tolls to businesses in Fife to be £1.4 million. If we add the indirect costs, the true cost for Fife alone is probably nearer £3.4 million to £3.5 million. Businesses in the Lothians are similarly disadvantaged, which is why the tolls should be abolished as soon as possible.

I understand that, for many of us, reliance on the existing transport infrastructure will not meet all the challenges that the future will bring. Today, I read with interest the contribution to the tolled bridges review by a regular commuter and bridge user, who stated:

"The problem is that people who are causing the congestion and all the consequent damage are only trying to get to work, do their 8 hours on the treadmill and get home. We need to be thinking about what alternatives we can give them. If cost of living and quality of life drive them out of the city, who can be surprised if congestion is the result? Also, families can't afford the cost and disruption of moving home every time one person changes his or her job: to minimise big capital costs, they just drive further."

Although I believe that the first course of action in easing the commute for those who travel from, and work in, Edinburgh and the Lothians should be removal of the financial burden of the tolls, we should also look to improve the alternatives for those who seek to go about their daily lives.

I agree with the minister that we should not rush into arbitrary decisions on major infrastructure projects. It is clear that a final decision on many of the increasingly expensive schemes that the previous Governments proposed should be taken only when the current Government can present to Parliament full financial information in a considered way. I welcome that, but we must whenever possible also carefully examine cost-effective alternatives to road travel. I urge the minister urgently to examine proposals to reduce journey times by train throughout Scotland, but particularly journey times to and from our capital city as a way to promote positive alternatives to car use and further stimulate our economy.

Abolishing the tolls on the Tay and Forth bridges is a welcome first step by the Administration and it has my support today. I look forward to working with the Scottish Government in the coming weeks and months to make even more progress for commuters and businesses in the east of Scotland.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Alasdair Morgan): SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S3M-93, in the name of Stewart Stevenson, on the abolition of bridge tolls.
The Minister for Transport, Infrastructure and Climate Change (Stewart Stevenson): SNP
It is with understandable satisfaction that I open this debate on transport issues and that I will move a motion to abolish road bridge tolls in Fife—a topic...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con): Con
Will the minister give way?
Stewart Stevenson: SNP
Wait a little bit, please.In our first two weeks in government, we have delivered the first steps for one of our manifesto commitments—two weeks to overturn ...
Murdo Fraser: Con
I will break into the self-congratulation for just a second. I take it from the minister's tone that the Executive opposes tolls in principle. Does he theref...
Stewart Stevenson: SNP
I ask the member to allow me to develop my points. I will talk later about the replacement Forth crossing, which we urgently require. If Mr Fraser is very go...
Jeremy Purvis (Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale) (LD): LD
Given that the proposal to expand the park-and-ride facilities at Ingliston is connected to the Edinburgh tram scheme, will it form part of the minister's co...
Stewart Stevenson: SNP
I will not make arbitrary decisions at this point. The member will recognise that I recognise the validity of what he has said and the need to take account o...
Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab
Following the First Minister's comments on the tram project during First Minister's question time, will the minister give an assurance that before he takes a...
Stewart Stevenson: SNP
We should make informed rather than arbitrary decisions, which is why I want full information on the major projects in my portfolio. I am not trying to alarm...
Margo MacDonald (Lothians) (Ind): Ind
I want to ask a question that arises from what the minister said in response to Marilyn Livingstone's question. Can we take it that the commitment to ditch o...
Stewart Stevenson: SNP
Like all parties, the Scottish National Party laid its manifesto in front of Scotland's electorate in a highly considered fashion. However, this is a Parliam...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab
I welcome Stewart Stevenson to his new post. I think this is the first time he has spoken in his new capacity and I wish him well.We recognise that those who...
Tricia Marwick (Central Fife) (SNP): SNP
Will the member give way?
Des McNulty: Lab
Not at the moment.Different considerations apply to the Forth bridge, which is already heavily used by heavy goods vehicles as well as cars. Even with the to...
Tricia Marwick: SNP
Will the member give way?
Des McNulty: Lab
No.I turn to the final section of my amendment. Earlier, Mr Salmond told Parliament that he had misgivings about the financial management of capital projects...
Stewart Stevenson: SNP
I urge caution on the member. This week alone, three separate pieces of paper containing three significantly different figures have been provided to me.
Ms Wendy Alexander (Paisley North) (Lab): Lab
Publish them.
Stewart Stevenson: SNP
I will publish them when I think they are trustworthy. At the moment, I cannot rely on the figures I am getting. When we bring forward our other projects, me...
Des McNulty: Lab
It is interesting that the member mentions "honest figures". Mr Salmond said that he favours an alternative to trams involving trolley buses, bus lanes and o...
Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con): Con
I rise to support the amendment in Des McNulty's name. Members will not mind if I pause to gather my thoughts after saying that.We are in an interesting posi...
Tricia Marwick: SNP
Why did the Conservatives support the SNP in the debate on the abolition of tolls on the Tay and Forth bridges in March this year—and why did they not link t...
Alex Johnstone: Con
We supported the SNP then because it was right. We support the SNP today because it is right in principle. However, issues that must be covered have become c...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD): LD
The Scottish Liberal Democrats will support the abolition of tolls on the Tay and the Forth, on which the people of Fife have made their views clear.The case...
The Deputy Presiding Officer: SNP
We move to the open debate. I ask members to stick to their time limits—normally six minutes—as the debate is oversubscribed.
Tricia Marwick (Central Fife) (SNP): SNP
In one of my last speeches before the election, I led the SNP debate on abolishing the tolls on the Forth and Tay road bridges, so it is appropriate that my ...
Ted Brocklebank (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con): Con
In no way do I want to diminish the SNP's role—or, indeed, Tricia Marwick's personal role—in the decision to abolish the tolls, but does she agree that, to p...
Tricia Marwick: SNP
I am sorry that Ted Brocklebank has just taken one of my lines. Stewart Stevenson has already used a portion of my speech, so perhaps I should not be surpris...
Iain Smith (North East Fife) (LD) rose— LD