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Nigel Don (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) SNP Chamber
25 Nov 2014
Legal Writings (Counterparts and Delivery) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I genuinely welcome the opportunity to speak on behalf of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee on the Legal Writings (Counterparts and Delivery) (Scotland) Bill, which is, of course, of particular significance as it is the first to be known as a Scottish Law Commissio...
The Convener SNP Committee
20 Nov 2012
Instruments subject to Negative Procedure
Members will see from the correspondence that two issues were raised with the Scottish Government. The first issue relates to the clarity of the drafting that specifies which civil partnerships are to be recognised as falling within the definition of a partner in article 3(2) ...
Nigel Don (North East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
15 Nov 2007
Scottish Legal Services Market
In the context of an extensive debate, I will address one specific issue that has not been mentioned much—advocates. The argument is made that it is uneconomic for advocates to be self-employed. I struggle to see why that should be the case, and so do advocates. The argument g...
Nigel Don (North East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
06 Mar 2008
Rape and Sexual Offences
Members will forgive me for saying again that as I am speaking late in the debate I will resist the temptation to repeat what others have said and instead try to address, or expand on, issues that have not been covered as they might have been.I will make two points. The first,...
Nigel Don (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP Chamber
19 Jan 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I start by apologising for arriving a few minutes late; that has been the order of my day.I congratulate Rhoda Grant on introducing this very important bill. I will reflect on only three elements because, as usual, I have no desire to repeat what has been said before, although...
Nigel Don SNP Chamber
25 Oct 2012
Scottish Civil Justice Council and Criminal Legal Assistance Bill: Stage 1
I understand the principle, but I disagree with it. I do not think that we need to give the Lord President guidance. The Lord President is one of a long line of Lord Presidents who know exactly what they do and understand what things are about. We have probably got the balance...
The Convener SNP Committee
12 Jun 2012
Scottish Civil Justice Council and Criminal Legal Assistance Bill: Stage 1
Under agenda item 3, the committee will consider the delegated powers in the bill. In doing so, the committee is invited to agree the questions it wishes to raise with the Scottish Government. It is suggested that those questions are raised in written correspondence. On the ba...
The Convener SNP Committee
29 Sep 2015
Instruments subject to Negative Procedure
The instrument fails to observe the requirements of section 28(2) of the Interpretation and Legislative Reform (Scotland) Act 2010. The instrument was laid before the Parliament on 17 September and came into force on 22 September. The requirement to leave a minimum of 28 day...
The Convener SNP Committee
24 Feb 2015
Instruments subject to Negative Procedure
Our legal advisers have suggested that the regulations raise a question about whether they relate to matters that are reserved by section F1 of part 2 of schedule 5 to the Scotland Act 1998 and that, as such, the committee may wish to report them as raising a devolution issue....
The Convener SNP Committee
23 Feb 2016
Instruments subject to Negative Procedure
Our legal advisers have suggested that the regulations raise a question of whether they relate to matters that are reserved by section F1 of part II of schedule 5 to the Scotland Act 1998, and as such the committee may wish to report the regulations as raising a devolution iss...
The Convener SNP Committee
03 Feb 2015
Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure
No formal reporting points have been raised by our legal advisers on either set of regulations but, as with the previous regulations, the committee might consider writing to the Minister for Parliamentary Business, the Deputy First Minister and the lead committee to point out ...
Nigel Don (North East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
20 Nov 2008
Looked-after Children
As usual, I am batting well down the order, so I will not rehearse things that have already been said. In passing, however, I commend Robert Brown's point that children do not suddenly change at the age of 16. Those of us who are parents know fine well that change goes on for ...
Nigel Don SNP Committee
17 Jan 2013
Scottish Law Commission Bills
I think that our visible time capacity was probably why the suggestion was made in the first place. However, the timetabling of subordinate legislation requires us to do things on a very short fuse when we get there, which means that the timing of our business from week to wee...
Nigel Don (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) SNP Chamber
24 Feb 2015
Legal Writings (Counterparts and Delivery) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
This is an interesting point to have reached, partly because, as many members have mentioned, this is the first bill that has been dealt with by the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee, and partly because there is relatively little in the bill. Even speaking third among ...
Nigel Don SNP Chamber
28 Apr 2010
Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I take Robert Brown’s point, although I would also make the point that those who have trained as lawyers have those ethics, in exactly the same way that those who have trained as medics have them—it is part of what they do. In exactly the same way, I might say that, for those ...
Nigel Don (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) SNP Chamber
29 Sep 2015
New Psychoactive Substances
The debate has been interesting—it is not the first debate that we have had on the subject and, as I think we all agreed last time round, the issue is not an easy one. If there were a simple answer, we would have come up with it by now, but we know that there is not one. Befo...
The Convener SNP Committee
12 Jan 2016
Instruments subject to Negative Procedure
Our legal advisers have noted that SSI 2015/431 and the Management of Offenders etc (Scotland) Act 2005 (Commencement No 8) Order 2015 (SSI 2015/429) replace the provisions of the Management of Offenders etc (Scotland) Act 2005 (Commencement No 8 and Consequential Provisions) ...
Nigel Don (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP Chamber
06 Oct 2010
Legal Services (Scotland) (Bill)
I am grateful to Robert Brown for that summary of the bill’s provisions, as it saves me having to say one or two things that I would otherwise have said. I will pick over some of the issues that members have not said much about.I reinforce the view that the bill is a facilitat...
The Convener SNP Committee
12 Jun 2012
Instruments subject to Negative Procedure
No points have been raised by the legal advisers on the regulations. However, members will note that our legal advisers exchanged correspondence on the meaning of certain terms.Does the committee agree to welcome the intention of the Scottish ministers to consider whether they...
The Convener SNP Committee
12 Jun 2012
Instruments subject to Negative Procedure
Our legal advisers have raised no points on the regulations. However, members will note that our legal advisers inquired informally as to why the Scottish Government chose to amend rather than replace the Adults with Incapacity (Requirements for Signing Medical Treatment Certi...
The Convener SNP Committee
16 Jun 2015
Instruments not subject to Parliamentary Procedure
Given the committee’s consideration of the Legal Writings (Counterparts and Delivery) (Scotland) Bill, members will be pleased to note that this instrument commences on 1 July 2015 the remaining parts of the Legal Writings (Counterparts and Delivery) (Scotland) Act 2015 that a...
The Convener SNP Committee
02 Dec 2014
Instrument subject to Affirmative Procedure
No points have been raised by our legal advisers on the instrument. However, the committee may wish to note that this is an amended version of the draft order and that it addresses concerns that were raised by the committee’s legal advisers on the original draft. Is the commit...
The Convener SNP Committee
22 Nov 2011
Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure
Our legal advisers raised no points on the instruments.The committee may wish to welcome the Scottish Government’s adjustment of the drafting of the Student Fees (Specification) (Scotland) Order 2011 to reflect the points that the committee raised in relation to the draft of t...
Nigel Don: SNP Committee
02 Sep 2008
Damages (Asbestos-related Conditions) (Scotland) Bill:<br />Stage 1
Yes, it answers the point, but I understand the law as you described it, as I did before you did so. That does not alter the fact that you are underwriters and that you underwrite in what you perceive to be the legal situation. The lower courts made the law previously and at t...
Nigel Don: SNP Committee
05 Jan 2010
Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I noted your earlier comments on that matter. With regard to the head of legal services's overriding control of, in particular, money, it makes great sense for someone in a legal business to be responsible for clients' money; of course, accountants routinely carry out such wor...
Nigel Don (North East Scotland) (SNP): SNP Chamber
03 Sep 2009
Scottish Government's Programme
The debate has been interesting and has got more interesting during the afternoon. I have been making notes and if I were summing up I would have quite a lot to say—I am not doing so, of course, and I will stick with my original script.I will consider issues to do with a coupl...
Nigel Don SNP Chamber
08 Sep 2010
Scottish Government’s Programme
It is. Feus were long leases forever, and long leases remain. There are not that many of them—I am told that there are about 9,000—but they need to be dealt with, because they are left over. They are one of those bits of English land law—sorry, Scottish land law; there are far...
The Convener SNP Committee
21 Jun 2011
Instruments subject to Negative Procedure
As members will note from the legal brief, our legal advisers consider that the reference in the preamble to the regulations to the exercise of powers under section 18(4) of the Local Government and Housing Act 1989 is not appropriate. However, members should also note that th...
The Convener SNP Committee
20 Mar 2012
Instruments subject to Negative Procedure
The next item is consideration of instruments subject to negative procedure. The regulations appear to be defectively drafted, in that they appear not to deliver the intended policy of transferring certain moneys from a general account held by the Scottish Legal Aid Board to t...
Nigel Don (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) SNP Committee
21 Feb 2012
Current Petitions
Thank you, convener. I am very happy to do so. Wearing the constituency MSP’s hat, I guess that I should at least try to do so. As members will be aware, I have been involved with the petition from the beginning because I was a member of the committee when it first appeared be...
Nigel Don SNP Chamber
29 Mar 2012
Tribunal System
I am grateful for that clarification.It has occurred to me that the upper-tier tribunal will set precedent. It will be staffed by senior people and it will make law. I would have thought that what it decides will be binding on the first-tier tribunal in the future. I wonder to...
Nigel Don SNP Chamber
25 Oct 2012
Scottish Civil Justice Council and Criminal Legal Assistance Bill: Stage 1
If the member will forgive me, my question was more rhetorical than legal. If that is the understood legal position, there is no particular argument for refunding people found not guilty on relatively small matters when there might be much larger consequences for the accused.1...
Nigel Don SNP Committee
04 Dec 2013
Proposed Agricultural Holdings (Scotland) Act 2003 Remedial Order 2014
You have identified the five groups; other members may want to ask you why you have done that, and I am sure that you will have an answer. I want to pick up on a couple of those in group 5, for which—as I understand it—you do not now need to account.First, I want to ask about ...
The Convener SNP Committee
07 Oct 2014
Legal Writings (Counterparts and Delivery) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Could you also comment on the suggestion that we heard last week, which was that parties will choose a legal system because of the characteristics of that legal system? I must confess that my perception is that Scots law and English law are essentially the same in many commerc...
The Convener SNP Committee
28 Oct 2014
Legal Writings (Counterparts and Delivery) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We have the opportunity to take further oral evidence on the Legal Writings (Counterparts and Delivery) (Scotland) Bill. Today, we will hear from the Minister for Energy, Enterprise and Tourism, Fergus Ewing, and his Scottish Government officials. I welcome the minister, who i...
The Convener (Nigel Don) SNP Committee
17 Jun 2014
Legal Writings (Counterparts and Delivery) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I welcome members to the 21st meeting in 2014 of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee. I ask members to switch off any mobile phones. We have received apologies from Mike MacKenzie. Agenda item 1 is oral evidence on the Legal Writings (Counterparts and Delivery) (Sco...
The Convener SNP Committee
17 Jun 2014
Legal Writings (Counterparts and Delivery) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have a question as an observer. Are we being asked to provide legal certainty by statute for a process that might not change at all but whose legal validity is at least doubtful at present?
The Convener SNP Committee
17 Jun 2014
Legal Writings (Counterparts and Delivery) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We shall resume. I have huge pleasure in welcoming to the meeting representatives from the Scottish Law Commission: Lord Pentland, chairman; Hector MacQueen, commissioner; Malcolm McMillan, chief executive; Stephen Bailey, legal assistant; and Charles Garland from the Governme...
Nigel Don SNP Committee
11 Mar 2015
Section 22 Report
I am conscious, as members of Parliament always are, that “criminal” has a very specific meaning and a legal meaning, but in its non-legal meaning I think that that is how people would describe the situation. Therefore, I am wondering whether we could get legal advice, as Ma...
Nigel Don (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP Chamber
28 Apr 2010
Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
As usual, I do not want to spend too much time repeating what colleagues have already said. Instead, I will look at one or two issues and perhaps offer a few helpful comments. The first thing that I will do is go right back to the very beginning and point members in the direc...
Nigel Don: SNP Committee
09 Sep 2008
Current Petitions
Many of the issues that are raised in the petition will be addressed in Thursday evening's members' business debate, which is on a motion in my name. We could ask the Government about legal aid, in particular. This is one area where spending a bit more on legal aid would save ...
The Convener SNP Committee
21 Feb 2012
Instruments subject to Negative Procedure
In that case, we will leave the matter there. I point out that the legal advisers have raised no legal issues on either SSI 2012/28 or SSI 2012/29.
Nigel Don (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP Chamber
20 May 2010
Protection for Workers
I, too, congratulate Hugh Henry on bringing what I believe to be an important issue to Parliament. When I stop and think about it, I have to conclude that the wheels of our society turn through the provision of services to the public. Of course, we have informal social contact...
The Convener (Nigel Don) SNP Committee
03 Jun 2014
Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure
I welcome members to the 19th meeting in 2014 of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee and, as always, ask them to turn off their mobile phones. Apologies have been received from Stuart McMillan, in whose place I welcome Bruce Crawford, and from Margaret McCulloch, in ...
The Convener SNP Committee
30 Sep 2014
Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure
The legal advisers raised no points on the instruments. The committee may wish to note, however, that the second and fourth instruments replace earlier drafts that were laid before the Parliament on 21 and 22 August respectively, but withdrawn by the Scottish Government follow...
The Convener SNP Committee
28 Oct 2014
Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure
No points have been raised by our legal advisers on the instruments, and members have not indicated that they have any comments to make. The committee may wish to note that the versions before us of the draft Public Bodies (Joint Working) (Prescribed Health Board Functions) (...
The Convener SNP Committee
16 Dec 2014
Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure
No points have been raised by our legal advisers on the draft instruments, but the committee might wish to note that the draft Regulation of Investigatory Powers (Covert Surveillance and Property Interference – Code of Practice) (Scotland) Order 2015 and the draft Regulation o...
Nigel Don (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) SNP Chamber
23 Apr 2014
Fixed-odds Betting Terminals
I congratulate Stuart McMillan on securing the debate, because it is an extremely important issue. I confess that I knew very little about it, so I had to stop and think about it. While I did so, Brechin community council approached me to ask what could be done because it was ...
The Convener SNP Committee
24 Feb 2015
Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure
The committee may wish to note that these regulations and the following two instruments relating to the Revenue Scotland and Tax Powers Act 2014 replace earlier drafts that were laid before Parliament on 2 February. Those instruments were withdrawn by the Scottish Government f...
The Convener SNP Committee
10 Mar 2015
Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure
No points have been raised by our legal advisers on the order, but the committee may wish to note that this instrument was withdrawn and relaid to correct errors identified by our legal advisers. Is the committee content with the instrument? Members indicated agreement.
The Convener SNP Committee
10 Mar 2015
Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure
No points have been raised by our legal advisers on the order, but the committee may wish to note that this instrument was withdrawn and relaid to correct errors identified by our legal advisers. Is the committee content with the instrument? Members indicated agreement.
The Convener SNP Committee
28 Apr 2015
Instruments subject to Negative Procedure
Before I invite further comments, I would like to deal with the other issues that are in my brief. The Scottish Government’s response to questions on the instrument from our legal advisers—that happens in the normal way, of course—states that it “will deal with identified er...
The Convener SNP Committee
15 Sep 2015
Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure
No points have been raised by our legal advisers on the order, but the committee may wish to note that it was withdrawn and relaid in order to make a clarification that arose from a query from our legal advisers. Is the committee content with the order? Members indicated agre...
The Convener SNP Committee
22 Sep 2015
Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure
No points have been raised by our legal advisers on the instrument. Members may want to be aware that the instrument was withdrawn and subsequently relaid following correspondence with our legal adviser. Is the committee content with the instrument? Members indicated agreement.
The Convener SNP Committee
15 Dec 2015
Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure
No points have been raised by our legal advisers on the draft regulations, but members might wish to note that it has been withdrawn and relaid twice, first, because of an inadvertent failure identified by the Scottish Government to address certain minor drafting changes prior...
The Convener SNP Committee
26 Feb 2013
Instruments subject to Negative Procedure
As members will note, our legal advisers have suggested that the regulations raise the question whether they relate to matters that are reserved by section F1 of part II of schedule 5 to the Scotland Act 1998; as such, the committee may wish to report the regulations as raisin...
The Convener SNP Committee
11 Dec 2012
Instruments subject to Negative Procedure
As members will note, our legal advisers have suggested that the regulations raise a question whether they relate to matters reserved under section F1 of part II of schedule 5 to the Scotland Act 1998 and as such the committee might wish to report the regulations as raising a ...
The Convener SNP Committee
03 Sep 2013
Instruments subject to Negative Procedure
Our legal advisers have suggested that both instruments—SSI 2013/218 and SSI 2013/239—raise the question of whether they relate to matters that are reserved by section F1 of part II of schedule 5 to the Scotland Act 1998. As such, the committee may wish to report that the regu...
The Convener (Nigel Don) SNP Committee
05 Nov 2013
Instrument subject to Negative Procedure
I welcome members to the 28th meeting in 2013 of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee and ask them to turn off mobile phones.Agenda item 1 is consideration of an instrument that is subject to negative procedure. Our legal advisers have suggested that the regulations r...
The Convener SNP Committee
04 Mar 2014
Instruments subject to Negative Procedure
Our legal advisers have suggested that the regulations raise the question whether they relate to matters that are reserved under section F1 of part II of schedule 5 to the Scotland Act 1998. As such, the committee may wish to report that the regulations raise a devolution issu...
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Meeting of the Parliament 25 November 2014

25 Nov 2014 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Legal Writings (Counterparts and Delivery) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Don, Nigel SNP Angus North and Mearns Watch on SPTV

I genuinely welcome the opportunity to speak on behalf of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee on the Legal Writings (Counterparts and Delivery) (Scotland) Bill, which is, of course, of particular significance as it is the first to be known as a Scottish Law Commission bill following changes to standing orders last year that provided that certain SLC bills might be referred to the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee.

The Scottish Law Commission plays a vital role in recommending reforms and in updating and improving Scots law. However, until recently the implementation rate of the commission’s proposed bills has been low. The new process, which we are undertaking for the first time, will allow such bills to be given the consideration that they deserve and will allow important reforms to be implemented.

I pay tribute and give my thanks to the parliamentary staff who, a couple of years ago, did the background work that considered whether we should change our standing orders. I also pay tribute to Christine Grahame, who of course is the convener of the Justice Committee, and Bruce Crawford, who was the Government minister responsible at the time, for providing the political impetus that enabled us to change the standing orders to ensure that SLC bills go forward.

We must do what we can to ensure that Scottish law is up to date and competitive. During the passage of the bill, it has been interesting to see what other jurisdictions have been making of this process. I believe that some of them might even be envious of the process that we now have in the Scottish Parliament.

I thank all those who provided written and oral evidence on the bill. In addition to receiving written submissions, we heard from legal, business and academic representatives over five oral sessions. The detailed evidence that was received was greatly appreciated by the committee.

As the minister says, the bill has two key provisions: that execution in counterpart should be clarified as being a valid process in Scots law; and that paper legal documents should be deliverable, in the legal sense of the word, by electronic means. Execution in counterpart is the process by which documents can be given legal effect by each party signing separate but identical copies of a document rather than the same single physical document. The bill seeks to remove the current uncertainty as to whether that is a valid way of creating legally effective documents in Scots law. In providing for the delivery of paper legal documents by electronic means, the bill aims to resolve any doubt as to whether a document is legally effective if it has been faxed or emailed rather than delivered by traditional means.

Evidence to the committee suggested that there is widespread support for the provisions among the legal, business and academic sectors. The current system for signing contracts under Scots law is generally considered to be inefficient and burdensome, with parties having to go to great lengths to ensure that a single document is signed by them all. To achieve that, they must organise signing ceremonies whereby all parties are required to gather at an agreed place at an agreed time in order to sign a single document. Alternatively, the document is sent to each party sequentially for each signature to be attached one by one.

By making it clear that documents may be executed in counterpart under Scots law, and by allowing for traditional documents to be delivered electronically, the need for such procedures is completely removed. It therefore follows that the process for agreeing a contract may be much more efficient and straightforward, as each party can simply sign their own copy before delivering it to the others.

In the committee’s view, one of the main benefits of the bill is its potential to increase the number of contracts that are made under Scots law. The committee heard that a perceived inability to execute documents in counterpart often leads parties who would otherwise have drawn up their contracts under Scots law to state within a document that it will be governed by another legal system, such as the English legal system, allowing them to avoid processes such as the aforementioned signing ceremony.

Many witnesses argued that, by providing for execution in counterpart, the bill could lead to an increase in the number of contracts that are contracted under Scots law. However, we should not get carried away about that. The bill is unlikely to bring an influx of contracts to Scotland from those who would otherwise have no reason to use Scots law. Parties choose which law will govern their contract for a variety of reasons, and the committee also heard that English and New York law are dominant internationally and will, in all likelihood, continue to be so.

For some, however, the inability to execute a document in counterpart is the determining factor in their choice of law. The committee heard examples of contracts that were switched to English law at the 11th hour when it became apparent that all parties would be unable to gather together to sign a single document. It could be argued that, by allowing for execution in counterpart, the bill will encourage such parties to use Scots law rather than switch to another form of law. The committee therefore considers that the bill has the potential to stop the drift away from Scots law of contracts that would otherwise have been made under our law.

In addition to assessing the potential benefits of the bill, the committee considered its potential challenges. In its evidence to the committee, the Faculty of Advocates suggested that the bill’s provisions could lead to an increase in the incidence of fraud or error. The faculty was particularly concerned that the bill allows parties to exchange signature pages as opposed to whole documents. It considered that that would increase the likelihood that the content of the document could be altered.

The faculty’s view was not, however, shared by other witnesses. Having considered all the evidence, the committee was not persuaded that the bill will lead to an increase in the incidence of either fraud or error. In reaching that conclusion, the committee took account of the lack of evidence of instances of fraud or error in other countries in which execution in counterpart and electronic delivery of documents are already commonly practised. Further to that, the committee noted the existing safeguards that are in place in our law to both prevent and deal with fraud and error. At the same time, the committee encourages the Scottish Government to continue to ensure that the potential for fraud and error is accounted for and to consider how such risks could be reduced further.

The committee therefore recommends that the general principles of the Legal Writings (Counterparts and Delivery) (Scotland) Bill be agreed to.

Thus far, the new system for implementing Scottish Law Commission bills appears to be working well. I agree with the minister on that and am grateful for his comments. I look forward to the continued progress of the bill and to scrutinising further bills under this welcome process.

15:45  

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