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Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
27 Feb 2007
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Consideration Stage
The assessor and the committee heard evidence from objectors and the promoter on mitigating the environmental effects that will inevitably arise during construction. While our remit in relation to operating the railway is limited, both under the bill and as a consequence of ma...
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
27 Feb 2007
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Consideration Stage
In paragraph 265 of its consideration stage report, the committee agreed that it would amend the bill to reflect the promoter's having informed the owners of land that was included in the bill that it no longer required their land permanently. Amendments 25 to 28 give effect t...
Mr Charlie Gordon (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab Chamber
21 Sep 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
Scott Barrie opened the debate by confessing that he has to cajole, threaten, persuade, sweet-talk and blackmail Labour members into serving on private bill committees. I leave members to guess which method was deployed in my case. I have suffered while serving on the Edinburg...
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
27 Feb 2007
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Consideration Stage
Amendments 43 to 46, taken together, will introduce control over the maximum period within which the promoter can compulsorily acquire land under the bill. At present, the bill will give the promoter the power to acquire land and rights compulsorily until a date 10 years after...
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
06 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
I can see why the issue would be near the front of your mind at board meetings. Paragraphs 536 to 538 of the promoter's response refer to rolling-stock solutions, new class 22 diesel multiple units and a range of other types of rolling stock that are currently on the network. ...
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
27 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
The promoter has indicated that it has made changes to the scheme to assist with access to Ashley Lodge and to mitigate visual intrusion. Does that suggest that the promoter has listened to at least some of your concerns?
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
27 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
The experience from other private bills is that, during the consideration of objections, the promoter may reach agreement with a landowner that a specific piece of land is no longer required. If that happens with EARL, will the promoter draft suitable amendments to take such l...
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
06 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
Objection 14 argues that the promoter's assertion that the bill will encourage economic growth is flawed. Why do you dispute that assertion?
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
06 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
You suggest that the promoter has not allowed for all of the emissions that it will directly create with this project. Could you elaborate on your views on the emissions that you believe will be generated during the construction phase?
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
06 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
In its response to the committee's questions, the promoter commented on road and parking plans in BAA's master plan. I refer to paragraph 281 and onwards of its response. In the light of those comments, will BAA focus its transport aims on increasing public transport share or ...
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
06 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
The promoter indicates that EARL will generate directly 84 full-time equivalent jobs and indirectly 139 FTE jobs. How does that compare with other rail-link projects? In your view, does that represent a good job creation level for the cost of the project?
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
06 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
Paragraph 21 of the promoter's memorandum mentions train frequencies. Do you feel that trains will be frequent enough to constitute direct accessibility to major tourist attractions in parts of Scotland outside the Edinburgh region?
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
06 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
You will recall that, in answer to an earlier question, the promoter's witnesses agreed that they are not selling the scheme as a hub, per se.
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
13 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
Does the promoter have any plans to include future cross-country franchise services, as Virgin Trains suggested in its submission?
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
13 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
I thank you for that comprehensive answer, but I dare say that committee members will scrutinise your sensitivity tests closely. Believe it or not, other witnesses and sources forby those that you cited have an even more pessimistic—if not in some cases a cataclysmic—view of t...
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
13 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
Although crossovers in tunnels are not unusual, an earlier witness claimed that the promoter plans to have a junction in the tunnel. Is that correct?
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
20 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
What actions do you suggest the promoter and the owners of the airport take to enhance the social inclusion benefits at the airport and from the scheme?
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
20 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
So you are looking for an opportunity for your organisation to sit down with the promoter and the airport operator to target the employment opportunities?
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
20 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
The House of Commons Transport Committee produced a report on train fares and ticketing in which it described two pricing policies, both of which are geared to maximise revenue. Would the promoter recommend a high rate per mile or a lower, competitive, rate per mile approach t...
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
20 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
The infrastructure of many railway stations is Victorian, and stations are often built into cuttings or high up on viaducts. Re-engineering stations to make them compliant with the DDA, so that people with mobility impairments can gain access, can be expensive—especially when ...
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
27 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
You have adequately summarised the difficulties of your discussions with the promoter about alternatives for the Roddinglaw junction. On the roads aspect, the committee has been advised that the roads authority and the planning authority are satisfied with TIE's preferred opti...
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
27 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
Network Rail has told us that it cannot confirm until the end of this calendar year whether the level of train service that is proposed by the EARL promoter can be delivered without disbenefits to the rest of the existing network. Given that, could it be argued that EARL being...
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
27 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
Transport Scotland has yet to agree the programme for the rolling-stock purchase or lease but, according to the promoter, you cannot deliver without the new trains. Do you have a view on when the decision will be made and implemented?
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
27 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
Why should the committee not delay consideration of the bill until Transport Scotland has finalised its rolling-stock upgrade programme, particularly in the light of the financial impact of a delay, as identified in paragraph 653 of the promoter's response 1?
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
27 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
Given the phased approach to rolling-stock upgrades that is identified in paragraph 705 of the promoter's response, what impact will that have on the frequency and reliability of train services in 2011?
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
19 Dec 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Consideration Stage
How confident are you that the new rolling stock can meet the enhanced acceleration performance criteria that Transport Scotland and the promoter have specified? Christine Grahame alluded to that earlier and you refer to it in paragraph 6.5 of your paper.
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
19 Dec 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Consideration Stage
The convener will be thrilled to hear that I am moving off rolling stock now. What discussions have you had with the promoter on preparing the EARL tunnel for rail electrification? TIE told us some months ago that electrification can be accommodated within the scheme's propose...
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
19 Dec 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Consideration Stage
Will that additional cost fall on the promoter?
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
19 Dec 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Consideration Stage
They are going to be busy people at Transport Scotland. How has the promoter taken account of the significant journey time penalties for local services and the patronage estimates for EARL?
Mr Charlie Gordon (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab Committee
23 Jan 2007
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Consideration Stage
Will the promoter undertake to revise the current draft of the code of construction practice to incorporate the changes requested by SNH? Could you have a revised draft with the committee clerks by next Monday?
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
23 Jan 2007
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Consideration Stage
Why should anyone who claims for property damage when the promoter has not undertaken a prior survey be required to meet the initial costs to support their claim?
Charlie Gordon: Lab Committee
18 Mar 2008
Petition
I do not want to divide the committee between what Rob Gibson and the convener have just said, although what the convener has just said might be of more general use to the committee in its future work.Rob Gibson mentioned the original cost benefit ratio for the Borders rail li...
Mr Gordon: Lab Chamber
24 Nov 2005
SCOTTISH EXECUTIVE · Glasgow Airport Rail Link
Is the minister aware that I may be the only member who has been an unsuccessful promoter of a scheme under private bill procedures, having lost a proposed tram scheme—albeit to Westminster commissioners—in my role as Strathclyde Regional Council's transport convener in 1995? ...
Mr Charlie Gordon (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab Chamber
14 Mar 2007
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Final Stage
The extent of my admiration and support for the city of Edinburgh is well known. When I was serving as a member of the Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill Committee, I heard an early witness for the promoter say that the EARL scheme would make Edinburgh airport Scotland's pre-emi...
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Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill Committee, 27 Feb 2007

27 Feb 2007 · S2 · Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill Committee
Item of business
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Consideration Stage
The assessor and the committee heard evidence from objectors and the promoter on mitigating the environmental effects that will inevitably arise during construction. While our remit in relation to operating the railway is limited, both under the bill and as a consequence of matters devolved under the Scotland Act 1998, we carefully considered the promoter's approach to controlling noise and vibration, as set out in its code of construction practice and its noise and vibration policy. We took a lot of evidence on environmental issues and concerns and we scrutinised the promoter's environmental statement, including taking advice on its terms from our external adviser. While we welcome the commitments made by the promoter in all those documents, we are aware of the objectors' concerns about what could happen on the ground. We therefore stated in our consideration stage report that we would amend the bill to make specific reference to those documents. The standards of mitigation set out in the code of construction practice, the noise and vibration policy, the mitigation commitment documents and the environmental statement will, as a result of these amendments, be applied to contractors, because the undertakers are bound by those standards and will therefore have to ensure that any subcontractor is similarly bound by them. Further, any subsequent revisions to the latest version of the code of construction practice, the noise and vibration policy and the mitigation commitment documents will not be permitted to reduce the standards of mitigation that are detailed within those documents. The code of construction practice is now more robust than when it was introduced as part of the environmental statement. It reflects many of the objectors' concerns about the day-to-day impact of the railway's construction. Similarly, the noise and vibration policy has been substantially enhanced, especially in relation to noise and vibration monitoring. The practical effect of the amendments is to give those documents enforceability. Failure to comply with the documents will result in the local authority being able to enforce compliance in the same way that it can enforce any planning condition. The amendments ensure that the minimum standards set must be met. It might assist the committee if I provide a little detail on how the amendments work in practice. Amendment 73 meets the requirements that we sought in our consideration stage report. Having considered the evidence, we agreed that it was imperative that the environmental impact of the railway should be no worse than the residual impact identified in the bill's environmental documents. If the impacts can be mitigated then that must happen, but amendment 73 makes it clear that the standards set out in the environmental statement are the minimum that must be achieved.The amendment does, however, allow the promoter flexibility in how those standards are met and should enable the benefits of good design and developing practices to be incorporated. For example if, due to technological advances, the railway is quieter than assumed in the environmental statement to the extent that specific noise mitigation measures are not required, the authorised undertaker is not obliged to institute any of the stated measures if those technological advances that are incorporated achieve the same or a better end result on the level of noise. The inclusion of that requirement in the bill ensures that the promoter must deliver on the environmental protections promised.Amendment 73 also ensures that the standards embodied in specific pledges made by the promoter to objectors or to the committee will be delivered. That means that either the proposed mitigation will be provided or the standard of protection envisaged by the pledge will be met. The approach provides the flexibility to take account of technological advances. For example, if the promoter agreed with an objector that they would provide a noise barrier to reduce noise to an acceptable level, but the same noise level can be achieved by using a quieter train, there will be no obligation on the authorised undertaker to provide the barrier.I move to amendments 74 and 78. The assessor heard extensive evidence about proposed mitigation, in particular in relation to noise and vibration. We carefully considered the promoter's approach to controlling noise and vibration, which is set out in the code of construction practice and the noise and vibration policy—the promoter submitted both documents as written evidence. Although we welcome the commitments that the promoter made, we are aware of objectors' concerns about construction noise monitoring, for example. We therefore said in our consideration stage report that we would amend the bill so that it makes specific reference to the code of construction practice and the noise and vibration policy. The approach is similar to the approach to environmental monitoring, so the practical effect of amendments 74 and 78 will be to make enforceable the code of construction practice, the noise and vibration policy and any mitigation commitment document. The local planning authority will be able to enforce compliance with those documents in the way that it enforces any planning condition.Amendment 75 ensures that the standards that we have agreed in the code of construction practice, noise and vibration policy and mitigation commitment documents are the minimum that must be met and that all the obligations of the authorised undertaker in relation to such matters and environmental impacts must be enforced by the local planning authority.Amendment 77 is a drafting amendment and reiterates that the bill's aim—to build a new railway, including all associated works—is as far as the Parliament can go under the Scotland Act 1998. Although the promotion and construction of railways that start and end in Scotland are devolved to the Scottish Parliament, the provision and regulation of railway services are—with very limited exceptions—reserved. The amendments in the group clarify that enduring commitments that are associated with the environmental effects of the railway's construction, such as commitments to provide planted areas or animal habitats, are protected. At the same time, however, the bill will make it clear that such obligations do not interfere with activity associated with reserved operational railway services, which are regulated under the Railways Act 1993.The 1993 act provides that a railway network operator must hold a licence and that licence holders are governed by the regulatory regime. The licence includes provisions that are designed to protect the environment. Network Rail's environmental policies not only comply with the licence but are based on ISO 14001, which is the international standard for environmental management. Railway operators have a statutory obligation to comply with the conditions of their licence and the rail regulator ensures that they do so.The promoter made it clear that amendment 77 does not reduce the environmental commitments in the bill or other commitments that it has given, all of which are made enforceable by local authorities as a result of amendments to the bill. Amendment 77 avoids any prospect of conflict arising between the reserved 1993 act's provisions and our environmental mitigation provisions.Amendment 90 is a technical amendment and defines "code of construction practice".Amendment 91 is also a technical amendment and provides a definition of "the Committee" in relation to references in the bill to undertakings given to us or to the assessor, who heard evidence on our behalf and reported to us. For example, there is such a reference in the provision inserted by amendment 73. Amendment 91 provides that"‘the Committee' means the Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill Committee … and includes any assessor appointed in respect of that Bill".Amendment 93 provides a definition of "local construction plan" that covers all codes of practice intended to define the authorised undertaker's policy in relation to construction works within a specified geographical area. Those must be included in the directory of documents that is mentioned in amendment 75. Local plans, therefore, are like the code of construction practice in that they allow the local authority to monitor compliance and to require consultation before they are altered.Finally, amendment 94 provides a definition of "mitigation commitment document". The definition encompasses any document that the authorised undertaker prepares in relation to specific impacts of the authorised works, including the environmental management plan. The plan brings together in one place all the environmental requirements that derive from the various mitigation documents, plans and third-party agreements that have been produced.I move amendment 73.

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The Convener (Scott Barrie): Lab
I welcome everyone to the third and final meeting of the Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill Committee in 2007. I ask everyone present to switch off their mobil...
Christine Grahame (South of Scotland) (SNP): SNP
I am obliged to the convener for making it plain that amendments have been lodged for procedural reasons only. It is a rather strange and quirky procedure th...
The Convener: Lab
Thank you for that; your position has been duly noted.We now begin to consider the amendments at phase 2 of consideration stage.
Sections 1 and 2 agreed to.
Schedule 1Scheduled works
The Convener: Lab
Amendment 1, in the name of Iain Smith, is grouped with amendments 2 to 11, 33 to 36, 38 to 40, 47 to 51, 89, 92, and 95.
Iain Smith (North East Fife) (LD): LD
Thank you, convener. This group contains a lot of amendments that are all concerned with land that is occupied by Edinburgh Airport Ltd—EAL—and how it may be...
The Convener: Lab
Thank you. I certainly remember all about feudal tenure, but I do not particularly want to go back there.
Amendment 1 agreed to.
Schedule 1, as amended, agreed to.
Section 3 agreed to.
Schedule 2 agreed to.
Section 4—Permitted deviation within limits
Amendments 2 to 6 moved—Iain Smith—and agreed to.
Section 4, as amended, agreed to.
Section 5—Work No 4: station and southern tunnel portal
Amendments 7 to 11 moved—Iain Smith—and agreed to.
Section 5, as amended, agreed to.
Section 6 agreed to.
Section 7—Construction and maintenance of new or altered roads
The Convener: Lab
Amendment 12, in the name of Mr Charlie Gordon, is grouped with amendments 13 to 16, 81 and 88.
Mr Charlie Gordon (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab
The amendments in the group are all concerned with ownership of roads built by the authorised undertaker after they have been completed and maintained for 12...
Amendment 12 agreed to.
Amendments 13 and 14 moved—Mr Charlie Gordon—and agreed to.
Section 7, as amended, agreed to.
Section 8—Vesting of private roads
Amendment 15 moved—Mr Charlie Gordon—and agreed to.
Section 8, as amended, agreed to.
After section 8
Amendment 16 moved—Mr Charlie Gordon—and agreed to.