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Mr Charlie Gordon (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab Chamber
27 Sep 2006
Glasgow Crossrail
I will not say that I would not have started from here, but I would certainly have started sooner. Somewhere in my archives, I have a document from 1973, when the then Greater Glasgow Passenger Transport Executive examined the crossrail proposal in a wider study called the Cly...
Mr Charlie Gordon (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab Chamber
21 Jun 2006
Glasgow Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
I have been experiencing déjà vu during this debate. In the middle of the last decade, when I was in Strathclyde Regional Council, I had responsibility for driving forward the implementation of not only a rail link to Glasgow airport, but a crossrail system. We were thwarted b...
Charlie Gordon: Lab Chamber
29 Jan 2009
Transport
Sorry, but I do not have time.The Glasgow crossrail project could provide through rail services from south-west Scotland to Edinburgh, the Forth ports and north-east Scotland. Sadly for the minister, on that day he had to attend a scheduled meeting of the cross-party group in ...
Charlie Gordon: Lab Committee
16 Dec 2008
Strategic Transport Projects Review
I am not aware that great emphasis was placed on that issue in the background documents to the STPR. In table E3 in annex 3 of report 3, you say that Glasgow crossrail has been rejected because"it does not make best use of the rail network",and that proposed improvements to th...
Charlie Gordon: Lab Committee
13 Jan 2009
National Planning Framework
I turn to one of the strategic interventions in the national planning framework: the west of Scotland strategic rail enhancements. I asked a witness on the previous panel whether Glasgow crossrail was dead and, if so, whether it had any offspring. I asked him to describe the o...
Mr Charlie Gordon (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab Chamber
29 Nov 2006
Glasgow Airport Rail Link Bill: Final Stage
If we pass the bill—as we should do—Scotland's largest city, Glasgow, will be connected by rail, via Scotland's largest town, Paisley, to Scotland's busiest airport, Glasgow international airport. All three locations are linchpins of a city region that contains 42 per cent of ...
Mr Charlie Gordon (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab Chamber
14 Mar 2007
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Final Stage
The extent of my admiration and support for the city of Edinburgh is well known. When I was serving as a member of the Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill Committee, I heard an early witness for the promoter say that the EARL scheme would make Edinburgh airport Scotland's pre-emi...
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
27 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
What consideration was given to using the current rail infrastructure in combination with the proposed Glasgow crossrail scheme as a way to deliver the policy objectives of EARL?
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
27 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
That rather damages my next question, which was to ask for a comment on the advantages and disadvantages of the scheme that was proposed by Mr Smart, which includes Glasgow crossrail. There are other aspects to the matter. Did you consider the merits and demerits of Mr Smart's...
Mr Gordon: Lab Committee
27 Jun 2006
Edinburgh Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
You have already told us that you did not consider the potential impact of the Glasgow crossrail scheme on the EARL scheme. Have you considered the impact of the Glasgow airport rail link scheme on EARL?
Charlie Gordon: Lab Committee
02 Oct 2007
Finance and Sustainable Growth
You mentioned crossrail before I did, cabinet secretary. You may also have mentioned a concept known as the Caledonian express, which involves the re-laying, resignalling and electrification of the line from Glasgow Central to Edinburgh via Shotts. In that scenario, the journe...
Charlie Gordon (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab Committee
16 Dec 2008
Strategic Transport Projects Review
Will the minister expand on the rationale for rejecting the Glasgow crossrail scheme in his strategy?
Charlie Gordon: Lab Committee
16 Dec 2008
Strategic Transport Projects Review
There is no sign in the latest draft of the national planning framework that you are reconsidering SPT's version of crossrail or thinking more about how you would achieve similar benefits by other means. That tends to make all that a gleam in the eye.
Charlie Gordon: Lab Committee
16 Dec 2008
Strategic Transport Projects Review
If you are thinking about a super-duper crossrail station in the centre of Glasgow, that is a big planning issue.
Charlie Gordon: Lab Committee
16 Dec 2008
Strategic Transport Projects Review
So as far as you are concerned, your superior version of crossrail is in the national planning framework.
Charlie Gordon (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab Committee
13 Jan 2009
National Planning Framework
My question is directed at Mr Kiloh. You welcomed the strategic rail improvements in the west of Scotland that are set out in the framework and in the strategic transport projects review. Is the scheme that we used to call Glasgow crossrail dead? If so, did it leave any offspr...
Charlie Gordon: Lab Committee
13 Jan 2009
National Planning Framework
Or son of crossrail
Mr Gordon: Lab Chamber
21 Jun 2006
Glasgow Airport Rail Link Bill: Preliminary Stage
If Sandra White had been following my narrative properly, she would have been quite clear about that. When it comes to the interests of Glasgow, the party tag does not bother me.Today, for a variety of reasons—the two best ones being the fact that, as Bill Butler mentioned, th...
Charlie Gordon (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab Chamber
27 Sep 2007
Edinburgh Airport Rail Links
The constitutional issue is not that the SNP is ignoring the previous Parliament's decision of 14 March 2007, but that it is ignoring this Parliament's decision of 27 June 2007. Of course, financial issues overshadow the debate. We have not really had answers to questions on t...
Charlie Gordon: Lab Chamber
29 Oct 2008
British-Irish Council
I accept that that is a problem, which the members of the British-Irish Council will have to address for environmental and many other reasons. I hope that Hugh Henry's recent summer holiday plans were not spoiled by such high costs.On 21 February, the First Minister correctly ...
Charlie Gordon (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab Chamber
12 Nov 2008
Scottish Economy
There is a global crisis of capitalism. What caused the crisis? I cannot explore that in depth today. However, I was struck by the vehement view that a wealthy businessman expressed to me recently. He said that the crisis was caused by the "sheer, unadulterated greed" of the b...
Charlie Gordon (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab Chamber
10 Dec 2008
Strategic Transport Projects Review
A journalist suggested yesterday that MSPs would need to take a speed-reading course to grasp in a matter of minutes the sense of the documentation—which runs to over 3,000 pages—on which today's ministerial announcement on the strategic transport projects review is based. It ...
Charlie Gordon (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab Chamber
29 Jan 2009
Transport
What road and rail projects can we expect to be started over the next five or six years? There are the Scottish Government's inherited commitments and its current commitments. Then there is the draft national planning framework 2, which contains eight or nine big projects, alt...
Charlie Gordon: Lab Chamber
23 Apr 2009
Transport Infrastructure <br />(West of Scotland)
We have heard enough from Patrick Harvie in this debate; we need to hear a wee bit more from me.Patrick Harvie wants to be against the car but ends up being against the roads. He must understand that vans and lorries do not use public transport.Bill Aitken also talked about in...
Charlie Gordon: Lab Chamber
28 Jan 2010
SCOTTISH EXECUTIVE · Rail Projects (Funding)
Aside from the irony that the criteria apparently do not include rail projects that were approved via a full act of the Parliament, such as the Glasgow airport rail link, does the minister not see the inconsistency in his criteria, which lead, according to one of his recent pa...
Charlie Gordon (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab) Lab Chamber
15 Apr 2010
Volcanic Ash Cloud
This unusual situation could be mitigated by increased use of the rail network. In the central belt, for example, it is possible to serve users of Prestwick, Glasgow international and Edinburgh airports by rail, to a substantial degree. That will be substantially more the case...
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Plenary, 27 Sep 2006

27 Sep 2006 · S2 · Plenary
Item of business
Glasgow Crossrail
I will not say that I would not have started from here, but I would certainly have started sooner. Somewhere in my archives, I have a document from 1973, when the then Greater Glasgow Passenger Transport Executive examined the crossrail proposal in a wider study called the Clyde rail study. To be fair to Strathclyde Regional Council, which became the passenger transport authority in the west of Scotland soon afterwards, many great strategic rail projects were delivered.

When I became Strathclyde Regional Council's convener of roads and transport in 1994, crossrail was my rail priority, but the railways were in the middle of privatisation and the regional council was abolished within two years. Labour may have won the general election in 1997, but Gordon Brown—perhaps members remember him—froze the financial commitments at the previous Government's level for the initial two years of the Labour Government. That took us to 1999; along came devolution, and some people wanted to consider everything afresh.

For various reasons, there was a loss of momentum. However, as an aside, I will mention that I enjoyed a successful negotiation back in the 1990s with Councillor Pat Lally—perhaps members remember him—who agreed to sell SPT the Mercat building for the sum of £1 for the purposes of the proposed Glasgow Cross railway station.

More recently, I have said in previous railways and aviation debates that it was unfortunate that SPT was pressured to submit the Glasgow Airport Link Rail Bill separately from one on Glasgow crossrail. It was inevitable that the Glasgow Airport Link Rail Bill Committee would try to re-establish that link. It is one thing to have a shuttle train service from Glasgow Central to Glasgow airport. That will certainly help. However, it would be a much more significant step to open up that link to Glasgow airport with crossrail in place, which could bring in train services from anywhere in the country.

We have had enough of studies, as has been said. I am not a big fan of studies and certainly not of having too many of them. They can be a symptom of paralysis by analysis—when people are not quite sure what to do about something, they tend to want to study it a bit further. As a bit of a transport anorak, I have looked at the history of big transport projects in this country and it seems to me that the big decisions have always been taken at opportune moments by politicians. Officials can take things so far and they can present options and carry out studies, but it is more a question of political commitment and will. To be fair, that has begun to make its presence felt in the Parliament in recent months with regard to other projects.

We must make up for the missed opportunity of the past couple of years of devolution with regard to crossrail and build up a head of steam. I am heartened by the strength and breadth of the cross-party group on Glasgow crossrail. In these exciting times for railways, and potentially crossrail, I would like to hear a commitment in the debate from politicians of all parties that, at the very least, they will try to ensure that a commitment to crossrail is included in their manifestos for next May's election. If we can build that sort of consensus and support behind the project—which is justifiable in its own right anyway—we will be doing the right thing for the Scottish people.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Murray Tosh): Con
The final item of business is a members' business debate on motion S2M-4688, in the name of Bill Butler, on the Glasgow crossrail scheme. The debate will be ...
Motion debated,
That the Parliament welcomes the progress that has been made to modernise Scotland's rail infrastructure, the most recent example of which was the agreement ...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab): Lab
As a Glasgow constituency member and convener of the Scottish Parliament cross-party group on Glasgow crossrail, I am delighted to have secured this debate o...
Ms Sandra White (Glasgow) (SNP): SNP
I thank Bill Butler for securing the debate—a debate that has been raging for about 30 years. One of the first debates in the Parliament was on the subject o...
Mr Charlie Gordon (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab
I will not say that I would not have started from here, but I would certainly have started sooner. Somewhere in my archives, I have a document from 1973, whe...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con
First, I congratulate Bill Butler on securing the debate and thank him for circulating the appropriate correspondence, which has been very helpful. Those of ...
Ms Wendy Alexander (Paisley North) (Lab): Lab
I congratulate Bill Butler on his motion. As I was listening to Bill Aitken describing his weekend, it struck me that, as he was walking around Austria think...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green): Green
I add my congratulations to Bill Butler on securing the debate and on his work in bringing together the cross-party group on Glasgow crossrail.I was looking ...
Donald Gorrie (Central Scotland) (LD): LD
I want to provide some non-Glasgow support for crossrail. Our Victorian ancestors had enormous energy and created most of the railway engines and great railw...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab
Like other members, I congratulate Bill Butler on securing the debate. Everyone acknowledges that he has been a champion of crossrail, which is an important ...
Phil Gallie (South of Scotland) (Con): Con
This has been a consensual debate—I disagree with little that members have said. However, I would like to hold Patrick Harvie to account. He referred to envi...
Mr Frank McAveety (Glasgow Shettleston) (Lab): Lab
I, too, thank Bill Butler for lodging the motion. I echo the points that members have made.I do not want to mention 1973, because the minister is relatively ...
The Minister for Transport (Tavish Scott): LD
All I can remember about 1973 is that it was the year in which Scotland qualified for the football world cup in West Germany.I am from the Charlie Gordon sch...
Meeting closed at 17:54.