Committee
Transport, Infrastructure and Climate Change Committee, 26 Jan 2010
26 Jan 2010 · S3 · Transport, Infrastructure and Climate Change Committee
Item of business
Active Travel Inquiry
The committee has heard evidence in the inquiry from regional transport partnerships, which carry out some of this work on behalf of local authorities, as their agents—we heard similar evidence in our previous inquiry into the draft Scottish budget for next year—that there was perhaps a reduction in resources being transferred from councils to regional transport partnerships for transport in general and for active travel, principally cycling. Leaving aside the debate about ring fencing, is there a danger that the active travel agenda, with other transport agendas, is suffering because councillors in unitary authorities take the view that, as public finances are squeezed, they must give priority to other services and perhaps less priority to agendas such as the active travel agenda?
In the same item of business
The Convener:
Green
Item 2 is the continuation of our active travel inquiry with our final oral evidence session. First, we will hear from a representative of Cycling England vi...
Phillip Darnton (Cycling England):
Good afternoon. Thank you for accepting this conversation over videolink.Cycling England was established by the Department for Transport in spring 2005. Form...
The Convener:
Green
The first specific issue that we would like to explore is the cycling city, cycling towns programme. It would be helpful if you could summarise its developme...
Phillip Darnton:
Right. Cycling England's initial funding from the DFT was £5 million. We had put together a proposal for a substantially higher amount, which the secretary o...
The Convener:
Green
I would like to move us on, if I may. I am a little concerned that members may not have time to ask all the questions that they would like to ask. Can you wi...
Phillip Darnton:
Of course. I will make five quick points.We have monitored carefully the first three years' work of all six towns, and the results have just been published a...
The Convener:
Green
Thank you very much. I hand over to Cathy Peattie.
Cathy Peattie (Falkirk East) (Lab):
Lab
Good afternoon. I will continue questions about the cycling city, cycling towns programme. I am interested in any lessons that you might have learned from th...
Phillip Darnton:
With the benefit of hindsight, the lessons have been largely commonsensical. The first lesson has been the need for absolutely determined leadership. Finding...
Cathy Peattie:
Lab
Thank you for a comprehensive answer. You clearly have lots of ambition and an exciting programme. I am interested in any evaluation process that you set out...
Phillip Darnton:
I will deal first with poor outcomes.We were intrigued by one town, which said that it thought that it could market its existing cycle routes. It had the ver...
Cathy Peattie:
Lab
Forgive me if you have already talked about this, but I am interested in how you gathered information from cyclists and communities on which parts of the sys...
Phillip Darnton:
If I may, I ask the committee to be careful when it comes to cyclists—I speak as someone who has three managing directors of campaigning organisations on the...
Cathy Peattie:
Lab
I like the idea of warm and cosy cyclists.Your target is to do with encouraging more people to cycle, which is why I asked about indicators. Did you speak to...
Phillip Darnton:
We absolutely have done that. When the towns put together their three-year work programmes, they go through a period of intensive discussion with communities...
Cathy Peattie:
Lab
You spoke earlier about funding and how successful it has been despite a reduction in the level. I am interested in the pilots that have been done. Are cycli...
Phillip Darnton:
I am glad that you asked that question because we believe that the approach is sustainable. In fact, having run pilots in six cycling towns from 2005 to 2008...
The Convener:
Green
I remind everyone that our time is limited and we are running just a tad behind schedule. If people can bear that in mind, it would be helpful.
Rob Gibson (Highlands and Islands) (SNP):
SNP
I had better speak to you about the bikeability training scheme, which I believe has been a success. Will you please give us a little background to it?
Phillip Darnton:
When we launched in 2005, we quickly identified that as well as having cycling towns, it was important that children should learn to ride their bicycles on t...
Rob Gibson:
SNP
Thank you. I am interested to know a bit about the funding of bikeability. You said that it is probably coming from bursaries and/or other supplements. Is th...
Phillip Darnton:
Yes.
Rob Gibson:
SNP
Are cycle training schemes other than bikeability available in England?
Phillip Darnton:
Any one could turn up and knock on someone's door and say, "Can I train you or your family?" There is no regulation in that sense. What we have established t...
Rob Gibson:
SNP
Thank you very much.
Shirley-Anne Somerville (Lothians) (SNP):
SNP
We have already heard a great deal about what you have done to increase the number of children who cycle. What work have you undertaken to increase the numbe...
Phillip Darnton:
That is probably the most difficult question. The answer is in two parts. First, we have concentrated on working with people in every walk of life who want t...
Shirley-Anne Somerville:
SNP
At the risk of being slightly antagonistic, some of the schemes sound a tad patronising to women—certainly to this young woman, who may have different reason...
Phillip Darnton:
I am sorry, but I do not understand the question. Do you mean any other country in the world?
Shirley-Anne Somerville:
SNP
Has the pretty pink bike theory been proven to work?