Chamber
Plenary, 06 Sep 2007
06 Sep 2007 · S3 · Plenary
Item of business
Common Land (Housing Estates)
I asked to speak in this evening's debate not just because one or two constituents have contacted me with concerns since I was elected to the Parliament but because I received many such complaints in my preceding 15 years as a councillor in Dunfermline.
When a new estate was built in part of my council ward in the mid-1990s, the developer decided to appoint a factoring company to maintain the public areas that were jointly owned by the home owners on the estate. There was a public outcry when people started to receive bills from the factoring company without any prior knowledge that that would happen.
I remember being virtually summoned to a public meeting by residents to face accusations about the failure of the council to maintain their land. After I explained to them what had happened, their anger was aimed less at me or the council and more at the developer, who had omitted to mention the arrangement to them when they bought their new houses. It was in the small print of the title deeds, but what person excited about a new house for their family would look at that? Anger was also directed at their lawyers for not bringing the matter to their attention—no doubt the lawyers did not want to lose their fees, which would have happened if their clients had withdrawn from sales—and at the factors, who, it seemed, had the right to charge whatever sum they liked. The quality of the maintenance was often extremely poor, to boot.
Since then, it seems that the builders of every new development in Dunfermline—of which there have been plenty, including those at Admiral Heights, Caley Muir and Masterton Hall in my constituency—and of developments throughout Scotland have jumped on the bandwagon of undercutting their competitors by avoiding the up-front payment to councils of the adoption fee and passing the issue over to factors instead. That may not be illegal, but it is certainly underhand.
Now, more than a decade later, the factoring of land in new housing estates has become the norm, with the result that no developer has any significant edge over their competitors and none of them wants to pay the adoption fee to the council, as to do so would put them at a disadvantage with their competitors. However, a growing army of angry house owners is demanding action.
There is light at the end of the tunnel—there is a solution to the problem for a growing number of our constituents throughout Scotland. It lies with the Parliament, the 32 local authorities in Scotland and, perhaps, the factoring companies. If we were to pass legislation that required a planning condition that made it compulsory for public open spaces in new developments to be maintained in perpetuity by the local authority or a factoring company, a great deal of public anguish could be avoided. As a condition of gaining planning permission, developers would be required to conclude a legal agreement that would result in the public open spaces in our estates being maintained to a reasonable standard all year round, every year. However, I recognise that it would be simply unfair to put that burden on local authorities or factoring companies without giving them some protection.
When a new estate was built in part of my council ward in the mid-1990s, the developer decided to appoint a factoring company to maintain the public areas that were jointly owned by the home owners on the estate. There was a public outcry when people started to receive bills from the factoring company without any prior knowledge that that would happen.
I remember being virtually summoned to a public meeting by residents to face accusations about the failure of the council to maintain their land. After I explained to them what had happened, their anger was aimed less at me or the council and more at the developer, who had omitted to mention the arrangement to them when they bought their new houses. It was in the small print of the title deeds, but what person excited about a new house for their family would look at that? Anger was also directed at their lawyers for not bringing the matter to their attention—no doubt the lawyers did not want to lose their fees, which would have happened if their clients had withdrawn from sales—and at the factors, who, it seemed, had the right to charge whatever sum they liked. The quality of the maintenance was often extremely poor, to boot.
Since then, it seems that the builders of every new development in Dunfermline—of which there have been plenty, including those at Admiral Heights, Caley Muir and Masterton Hall in my constituency—and of developments throughout Scotland have jumped on the bandwagon of undercutting their competitors by avoiding the up-front payment to councils of the adoption fee and passing the issue over to factors instead. That may not be illegal, but it is certainly underhand.
Now, more than a decade later, the factoring of land in new housing estates has become the norm, with the result that no developer has any significant edge over their competitors and none of them wants to pay the adoption fee to the council, as to do so would put them at a disadvantage with their competitors. However, a growing army of angry house owners is demanding action.
There is light at the end of the tunnel—there is a solution to the problem for a growing number of our constituents throughout Scotland. It lies with the Parliament, the 32 local authorities in Scotland and, perhaps, the factoring companies. If we were to pass legislation that required a planning condition that made it compulsory for public open spaces in new developments to be maintained in perpetuity by the local authority or a factoring company, a great deal of public anguish could be avoided. As a condition of gaining planning permission, developers would be required to conclude a legal agreement that would result in the public open spaces in our estates being maintained to a reasonable standard all year round, every year. However, I recognise that it would be simply unfair to put that burden on local authorities or factoring companies without giving them some protection.
In the same item of business
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Alasdair Morgan):
SNP
The final item of business is a members' business debate on motion S3M-347, in the name of Trish Godman, on the maintenance of common land on Scottish housin...
Motion debated,
That the Parliament is concerned about the many complaints voiced by people throughout Scotland over the neglect of common land on their housing estates, suc...
Trish Godman (West Renfrewshire) (Lab):
Lab
Sometimes I ask myself why I do this job—there is nothing but criticism, and everyone can do the job better than me. That is probably fair enough. However, o...
Angela Constance (Livingston) (SNP):
SNP
I congratulate Mrs Godman on securing the debate. My postbag, like those of other members, has been burgeoning with complaints about the land-maintenance com...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con):
Con
I also thank Trish Godman for bringing the debate to the chamber and add my thanks to Jim Devine for the work that he has done on the issue.Twelve years ago,...
Jeremy Purvis (Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale) (LD):
LD
Will the member give way?
Mary Scanlon:
Con
I am sorry, but I am very short of time.I am pleased to say that we now have an excellent factor and contractor. However, my neighbours from Milton of Leys, ...
Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP):
SNP
I congratulate Trish Godman whole-heartedly on securing this evening's debate. As with other members, the issue has a direct impact on my constituency. The c...
Mike Rumbles (West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine) (LD):
LD
Would not the solution be for the Government to make it illegal for a developer of residential homes to transfer the communal land to a third party? Making t...
Kenneth Gibson:
SNP
I have considerable sympathy with that view, but in the first instance we should perhaps require that people be given an opportunity to be consulted on who t...
Jim Tolson (Dunfermline West) (LD):
LD
I asked to speak in this evening's debate not just because one or two constituents have contacted me with concerns since I was elected to the Parliament but ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer:
SNP
One minute.
Mary Scanlon:
Con
Will the member give way?
Jim Tolson:
LD
No, I do not have enough time.I suggest that the charges associated with the maintenance of the public open spaces in new housing estates should be paid by t...
Mary Mulligan (Linlithgow) (Lab):
Lab
I congratulate Trish Godman on securing the debate and apologise to the Presiding Officer and other members, as I may need to leave before the end of the deb...
Jeremy Purvis:
LD
Will the member give way?
Mary Mulligan:
Lab
I am sorry, but we do not have much time in members' business debates. I might give way later.Many of the points that I have made might already have been mad...
Dave Thompson (Highlands and Islands) (SNP):
SNP
I commend Trish Godman for raising this issue.The issue of maintaining common land affects about 50,000 home buyers in Scotland, and the average payment for ...
Tricia Marwick (Central Fife) (SNP):
SNP
I, too, thank Trish Godman for bringing this matter to members' attention for this debate.In 2002, I met in my office a deputation of people from Brunton Gar...
The Minister for Community Safety (Fergus Ewing):
SNP
I am extremely grateful to Trish Godman for raising this issue. The fact that so many members representing constituencies from around Scotland have taken par...
Mike Rumbles:
LD
To repeat the point that I made earlier, a straightforward solution would be to prevent in law the transfer of communal areas in a housing development to a t...
Fergus Ewing:
SNP
I was going to turn to the member's recommendation later, but as he has raised it now, I will say that I intend to ask my officials to consider whether that ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer:
SNP
You have one minute, minister.
Jeremy Purvis:
LD
Will the minister take an intervention?
Fergus Ewing:
SNP
Yes, I will.
Jeremy Purvis:
LD
I am grateful to the minister for giving way, and I endorse his comments fully. Like other members, I have received a considerable number of representations ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer:
SNP
Quickly, please.
Jeremy Purvis:
LD
The development would be that ownership of the property would transfer to the residents association. That would be even more positive.
Fergus Ewing:
SNP
I am happy to consider any thought out and detailed proposal from any member who cares to write to me. Of necessity, these are complex issues.It is abundantl...