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Derek Brownlee (South of Scotland) (Con): Con Chamber
24 May 2007
Approach to Government
If that was an example of the new politics, there will be many demands that we go back to the old. I noticed that, for all Wendy Alexander's demands that we have consensus, there is not much consensus between her position on tolls and the Howat report and the position on which...
Derek Brownlee: Con Chamber
24 May 2007
Approach to Government
Whatever the member's interest in having an efficient Scottish Water, it is a fact that a year before she gave me that answer in the chamber, the Howat report suggested that she should consider the matter. However, her Government did not do so. At least her position is consist...
Derek Brownlee (South of Scotland) (Con): Con Chamber
21 Dec 2006
Budget Process 2007-08
The scrutiny of the draft budget has, once again, been a long process. Like other members, I pay tribute to the committee's clerks, to the people who gave evidence to the committee and to Des McNulty, who, as convener, was very able at squeezing out information that was releva...
Derek Brownlee: Con Committee
28 Apr 2009
Strategic Budget Scrutiny Inquiry
I do not want to tie up matters too much today, but it would be helpful if greater detail on such spending were provided. As well as being a significant element of spending, it is politically sensitive and will raise some issues for us.My next question, which is more general, ...
Derek Brownlee (South of Scotland) (Con): Con Chamber
02 Nov 2006
Scottish Executive Budget Review
It is always a pleasure to debate financial matters with so many members in the chamber, and it is a particular pleasure to debate them with the Deputy Minister for Finance, Public Service Reform and Parliamentary Business. It appears that, having first suppressed the report o...
Derek Brownlee: Con Chamber
02 Nov 2006
Scottish Executive Budget Review
Mr McCabe was clear that the report had been completed under the terms of reference and that further, separate, work was now under way, but perhaps he has not enlightened his deputy. There are no obstacles to the publication of the report except those put in place by ministers...
Derek Brownlee: Con Chamber
02 Nov 2006
Scottish Executive Budget Review
Perhaps Mr Lyon needs to negotiate better. Laughter.I wonder how much credibility the Minister for Parliamentary Business has left, given that she said, in relation to what she described as the Executive's enthusiastic introduction of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act ...
Derek Brownlee: Con Chamber
07 Dec 2006
SCOTTISH EXECUTIVE · Audit Scotland (Howat Review)
That is a surprise. The Howat review was given the task of, among other things, identifying the programmes that do not match with the partnership agreement priorities or are not performing well. Mr McCabe refused to list what those programmes are in his written answer to me, w...
Derek Brownlee (South of Scotland) (Con): Con Chamber
28 Jun 2007
Strategic Spending Review
I thank the cabinet secretary for his statement.Everybody who is interested in scrutinising the Scottish Government and its spending decisions effectively will be concerned at the implications of shortening the scrutiny process this year. I accept that the shortening of the pr...
Derek Brownlee (South of Scotland) (Con): Con Chamber
20 Sep 2007
SCOTTISH EXECUTIVE · Strategic Spending Review (Efficiency Savings)
The cabinet secretary might be aware that, as well as being asked by some people to rule out all the recommendations in the Howat report, he is being challenged by the same people to double the rate of efficiency savings to 3 per cent per annum. How could he achieve efficiency...
Derek Brownlee: Con Chamber
04 Oct 2007
Broken Promises
I will listen to the debate. I am not sure whether Mr Neil's speech helped his case.We should not be surprised that the Labour Party has made an illogical, ill-thought-out and poorly argued case—after all, it is difficult to break the habits that it acquired in government. Onl...
Derek Brownlee: Con Committee
19 Sep 2006
End-year flexibility
I return to John Swinney's point. Last November, I explicitly said that I thought that February was a challenging timescale for the publication of the report. I suggested that the tone of your remarks was that there would not be a major deviation from that timescale, which at ...
Derek Brownlee: Con Committee
19 Sep 2006
End-year flexibility
I go back to the issue of what constitutes advice to ministers in relation to the budget review. On 11 May, when I asked you whether you would publish, in addition to the Howat group's report, the backing papers and the work that the group had done behind the scenes, you said:...
Derek Brownlee: Con Committee
31 Oct 2006
Scottish Executive Budget Review Group
I think that John Swinney's suggestion has merit regardless of the outcome on Thursday. There are two conceivable outcomes of Thursday's debate or of the Executive taking unilateral action: either the report will be published or it will not. If the report is published, no doub...
Derek Brownlee: Con Committee
11 Sep 2007
Budget Process 2008-09
I want first to take up some of the points that Roseanna Cunningham raised. I have never been a member of a subject committee, so I do not have experience of that side of the fence. However, mainstreaming financial scrutiny in the week-on-week work of committees is a different...
Derek Brownlee: Con Chamber
01 Nov 2006
Structural Funds Programmes 2007 to 2013
Well, perhaps.Today's debate has been useful. For example, John Swinney's speech on the reach of European funding and his comment that very few places in this country have not been touched by previous spending were very apt. Indeed, that is why there is such concern in Scotlan...
1. Derek Brownlee (South of Scotland) (Con): Con Chamber
07 Dec 2006
SCOTTISH EXECUTIVE · Audit Scotland (Howat Review)
To ask the Scottish Executive what information Audit Scotland has been provided with in respect of the findings of the Howat review. (S2O-11343)
Derek Brownlee: Con Chamber
21 Dec 2006
Budget Process 2007-08
I think that many people consider that the level of debate would be raised if we were able to discuss various budget options. In that regard, would it not be helpful if, in addition to Government ministers having sight of the Howat review on the failures of the current budget,...
Derek Brownlee: Con Chamber
10 Jan 2007
Investment in Public Services
No—I want to make progress.If the Executive had been better at delivering, I have no doubt that it would have published the Howat review. If that review had said that the Executive was incredibly efficient and was spending money wisely, ministers would have been falling over t...
Derek Brownlee: Con Chamber
14 Feb 2007
Budget (Scotland) (No 4) Bill: Stage 3
I am tempted to wish that Wendy Alexander had managed to recover a different speech from her computer. In thinking ahead to a new financial system, does she feel that the present Executive has spent the union dividend as wisely as it should? Is she confident that the Howat rep...
Derek Brownlee (South of Scotland) (Con): Con Chamber
21 Feb 2008
Scottish Water
I open the debate with some trepidation, because the last time that I spoke in the chamber on Scottish Water half a ton of wood swung loose from the ceiling and hung above my head. Thankfully for me, I survived to be present for what—if the BBC is to be believed—is an historic...
Derek Brownlee: Con Chamber
21 Feb 2008
Scottish Water
On 24 May, John Swinney said:"We will not take forward the recommendation"of the Howat report"to turn Scottish Water into a mutual company … Scottish Water will retain its current status. That is our clear policy position."—Official Report, 24 May 2007; c 134. Jim Mather then ...
Derek Brownlee: Con Chamber
10 Sep 2009
“Strategic Budget Scrutiny”
The Government may have no choice; it depends on the state of the public finances. I am about to address the substantial point of how to tackle the cost. What we cannot avoid is a reduction in the public sector pay bill. Various figures have been quoted on the scale of that pa...
Derek Brownlee: Con Chamber
03 Feb 2010
Budget (Scotland) (No 4) Bill: Stage 3
I have already highlighted four separate options for financing GARL, but the bottom line is that they all require additional spending from a budget that is already set. We have heard nothing from any of the other parties about how they would plug that gap.In contrast to what h...
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Plenary, 24 May 2007

24 May 2007 · S3 · Plenary
Item of business
Approach to Government
If that was an example of the new politics, there will be many demands that we go back to the old. I noticed that, for all Wendy Alexander's demands that we have consensus, there is not much consensus between her position on tolls and the Howat report and the position on which she fought the election only three weeks ago.

However, I will deal with the current Government rather than the previous one. I am grateful to the cabinet secretary for giving us the opportunity to outline our approach to a new Government and how we will deal with issues. Before turning to specifics, I will first advance two general principles under which the new Government should operate. First, value for money should be at the very heart of what the Government does in a way that, as most us would acknowledge, was simply not the case under the previous Administration. Secondly, there must be openness, because greater scrutiny leads to better decisions and greater public confidence in what the Government is doing. In fact, the two principles are linked, because greater openness will of itself be an additional pressure on the Government to achieve greater value for money. That is one reason why I am grateful that the cabinet secretary has done what his predecessor failed to do in ordering the publication of the Howat report. It is a pity that the public did not have an opportunity to see that report before the election, but the fact that they and the Parliament will now have the opportunity to scrutinise it is certainly progress.

Given all his responsibilities, it is debatable whether the cabinet secretary in his first few days in office has fully digested all the implications of the Howat report and what it means, or could mean, for how the Government operates. Whether or not he has had the opportunity to do so, the Parliament has not had such an opportunity, and there will be no such opportunity today. Therefore, before the summer recess, the Executive should initiate a debate in Executive time on the report and what it means. Important issues are involved, and we must ensure that, in the spirit of consensus, we can all properly scrutinise what the report means for the Government.

I will briefly touch on some specifics in the report. Members might remember that, before the election, the Government parties routinely attacked the Conservatives' and the nationalists' spending plans. When he was defending his failure to publish the Howat report, the former First Minister said that the Conservatives' and nationalists'

"spending plans would not stand a day of scrutiny, never mind a year".—[Official Report, 28 September 2006; c 28020.]

April was an intense month of scrutiny, during which the Conservatives' plans held up rather better than those of the Labour Party. Now we know that at the same time that Mr McConnell was defending his failure to publish the Howat report and was attacking the Conservatives and the SNP, the Howat team

"faced difficulties in assessing the implications of switching or reducing spend in any programme."

The report found that

"The limitations of the SE's financial planning and management systems mean the assessment of the effectiveness of budget performance needs to be treated with a degree of caution."

It also found

"voluminous evidence of monitoring and measuring inputs",

but not of spending being linked to outcomes. In relation to education, it discovered

"an attitude in more than one area that regarded budget lines of single-digit millions of pounds to be ‘trivial'",

which was a mindset that

"does not engender confidence in general cost control practices."

On health, which is the single biggest item of expenditure in the Scottish budget, the report said that

"it remains difficult to assess whether the NHS in Scotland is delivering value for money".

Those are reasons enough why the previous Administration refused to publish the Howat report before the election.

However, that is just the start. I turn to one area that Mr Swinney alluded to in which the Conservatives have long advocated change. We argued for the mutualisation of Scottish Water not only during the election campaign that we have just had, as the Liberal Democrats did, but in the election campaign before that. As Mr Swinney said, the Howat report suggests that ministers should consider mutualisation in order to save £183 million a year, but what did ministers in the previous Executive do? In response to a question that I asked in the chamber on 15 March, Sarah Boyack confirmed that the previous Executive had not even reviewed Scottish Water's structure. The Howat report was not only suppressed, it was ignored.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alex Fergusson): NPA
Good afternoon. The first item of business is a debate on the approach to government.
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Sustainable Growth (John Swinney): SNP
Yesterday, the First Minister outlined the Government's priorities for creating a more successful Scotland. He shared his hopes for working more constructive...
The Presiding Officer: NPA
I am sorry, Mr Swinney, but I must ask you to stop. There are too many conversations taking place around the chamber. I do not appreciate it if I cannot hear...
John Swinney: SNP
We want our purpose to be understood across Scottish society—by business, public bodies, the third sector and local communities—and we wish to work in co-ope...
Margo MacDonald (Lothians) (Ind): Ind
Local decision making by local people presumably includes local councils. Does that mean we are getting the trams in Edinburgh?
John Swinney: SNP
It means that the Government takes strategic decisions about the health and prosperity of Scotland and that we co-operate with local authorities in taking fo...
Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab
Will the Executive respond to the invitation that I issued yesterday to publish details of the estimated increase in congestion that is associated with the r...
John Swinney: SNP
We will put into the public domain whatever information about our policy commitments is required in the public domain.In the spirit of openness, I am pleased...
Tavish Scott (Shetland) (LD): LD
In the spirit of fairness and decency, will Mr Swinney tell members whether he will accept the Howat report in full?
John Swinney: SNP
Mr Scott's question pre-empts the comments that I am about to make.As members know, the Howat review involved a team of independent professionals from the pu...
Jeremy Purvis (Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale) (LD): LD
I congratulate the minister on his new position. In his statement, the First Minister said that any review of government procedures would not be predicated o...
John Swinney: SNP
There will be no compulsory redundancies under the initiatives that we progress. There must be acceptance that it is likely that there will be changes in wha...
Peter Peacock (Highlands and Islands) (Lab): Lab
In the light of the fact that the minister's party does not command a majority in the Parliament and in the light of the efforts that its representatives hav...
John Swinney: SNP
I seem to recall that Mr Peacock was pretty happy with the budget process when he was a minister in the Scottish Executive, so, with the greatest respect, if...
Johann Lamont (Glasgow Pollok) (Lab): Lab
Will the minister give way?
The Presiding Officer: NPA
No. I am sorry, but the minister is winding up.
John Swinney: SNP
I would be delighted to give way, but I must draw my remarks to a close.We will discuss how public bodies can work together more effectively, and community p...
Ms Wendy Alexander (Paisley North) (Lab): Lab
Some members may recall that I refrained yesterday from commenting on the scope of Mr Swinney's portfolio. However, as today's debate is on the approach to g...
Roseanna Cunningham (Perth) (SNP): SNP
How many times over the past eight years did the Governments that Wendy Alexander was occasionally part of consult any Opposition party about the structure o...
Ms Alexander: Lab
I think that I should stick with the fate of new politics, to which I am addressing myself.As I said, the first test of new politics is consensus. However, t...
John Swinney: SNP
If the 1.5 per cent efficiency target is insufficient to command confidence on the Labour benches, will Wendy Alexander set out, in the interest of consensus...
Ms Alexander: Lab
I made it clear that we had not laid out what we would do in the next spending review. However, it is not ambitious to suggest a target that is half that of ...
Alex Neil (Central Scotland) (SNP): SNP
Wendy Alexander will need to do better if she wants to succeed Jack McConnell within the next year.Does the member agree that one thing that people want is m...
Ms Alexander: Lab
I do not think that anyone on the Labour benches intends to degenerate into the blame culture.I simply note that we have had total radio silence on schools a...
Derek Brownlee (South of Scotland) (Con): Con
If that was an example of the new politics, there will be many demands that we go back to the old. I noticed that, for all Wendy Alexander's demands that we ...
Sarah Boyack (Edinburgh Central) (Lab): Lab
Does the member accept that the framework that was put in place for Scottish Water has been accepted as financially rigorous and as much more transparent tha...
Derek Brownlee: Con
Whatever the member's interest in having an efficient Scottish Water, it is a fact that a year before she gave me that answer in the chamber, the Howat repor...
Jeremy Purvis: LD
Will the member give way?
Derek Brownlee: Con
I would like to make some progress. The previous Government was rightly criticised by the new Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism for failing to ensu...
Tavish Scott (Shetland) (LD): LD
I apologise to the minister and to other members for having to leave early this afternoon due to commitments at home in Shetland tonight. So far, successive ...