Chamber
Meeting of the Parliament 19 September 2012
19 Sep 2012 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Patient Care
I congratulate Alex Neil on his new role as Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing and wish him well in taking on the portfolio. I know that, whatever colleagues in the Labour Party might say, the portfolio will receive his full and undivided attention and commitment, as it did his predecessor’s. As a new member of the Health and Sport Committee, I look forward to working constructively with colleagues from across the Parliament, particularly Jackie Baillie, Drew Smith, Jackson Carlaw and Nanette Milne. I hope that there will be occasions on which we will find common ground in the interests of the NHS and the country.
I cannot let the opportunity pass without paying tribute to Nicola Sturgeon, the longest-serving health secretary of any Scottish Executive or Government and, without question, the most successful. Nicola Sturgeon left the NHS portfolio with a reputation for absolute competence and trustworthiness, and members from across the Parliament recognise that our NHS was in safe hands.
That safe stewardship has generated a substantial track record. Accident and emergency departments have been saved; prescription charges have been abolished; and there has been investment in new infrastructure, including at the Southern General in Glasgow and the new Dumfries and Galloway royal infirmary. Waiting times are low and hospital-acquired infections are at an all-time low. All that achievement is set against increasingly draconian financial circumstances over which the Scottish Government has no control. Of course, none of that would have been possible without the dedication and professionalism of NHS staff. The praise for them is, to be frank, the only part of the Labour Party’s motion that I support.
Anyone would be proud of that track record. To repeat what the minister said, in 2014-15, there will be a record £11.6 billion in resource funding for health in Scotland, which is £826 million more than in 2011-12. I contrast the situation in Scotland with that in England and Wales. We are only too well aware of the ideological dismantling of the NHS in England by the Conservatives and Lib Dems, but is anyone aware that Labour-governed Wales will cut health spending by 8.1 per cent in real terms in the next financial year?
I cannot let the opportunity pass without paying tribute to Nicola Sturgeon, the longest-serving health secretary of any Scottish Executive or Government and, without question, the most successful. Nicola Sturgeon left the NHS portfolio with a reputation for absolute competence and trustworthiness, and members from across the Parliament recognise that our NHS was in safe hands.
That safe stewardship has generated a substantial track record. Accident and emergency departments have been saved; prescription charges have been abolished; and there has been investment in new infrastructure, including at the Southern General in Glasgow and the new Dumfries and Galloway royal infirmary. Waiting times are low and hospital-acquired infections are at an all-time low. All that achievement is set against increasingly draconian financial circumstances over which the Scottish Government has no control. Of course, none of that would have been possible without the dedication and professionalism of NHS staff. The praise for them is, to be frank, the only part of the Labour Party’s motion that I support.
Anyone would be proud of that track record. To repeat what the minister said, in 2014-15, there will be a record £11.6 billion in resource funding for health in Scotland, which is £826 million more than in 2011-12. I contrast the situation in Scotland with that in England and Wales. We are only too well aware of the ideological dismantling of the NHS in England by the Conservatives and Lib Dems, but is anyone aware that Labour-governed Wales will cut health spending by 8.1 per cent in real terms in the next financial year?
In the same item of business
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott)
Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-04161, in the name of Jackie Baillie, on patient care.I remind members who wish to speak in the debate to...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab)
Lab
There are undoubtedly real and pressing challenges in our national health service, which are starting to have a significant impact on patient care and patien...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
SNP
Ms Baillie must recognise that there are more nurses and midwives now than there were in nine out of 10 years when Labour was in government. Is that a fact, ...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
I am afraid that that is nonsense. The Royal College of Nursing says that the number of nurses and midwives has reduced by 2,500. It is at a seven-year low. ...
Margo MacDonald (Lothian) (Ind)
Ind
Will the member give way?
Jackie Baillie
Lab
In a second.Another paramedic described being alone with a child with a head injury and being unable to transport him to hospital because they were waiting f...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
I am terribly sorry, but I cannot give way to Margo MacDonald, as I have very little time.The picture is extremely worrying. The NHS is struggling—there is n...
The Minister for Public Health (Michael Matheson)
SNP
It is often the case that facts do not feature heavily in Labour Party contributions in its health debates. No one should be in any doubt about the Governmen...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
I have made clear on a number of occasions our absolute view that the NHS budget should be protected. I am disappointed that the minister still fails to unde...
Michael Matheson
SNP
Unfortunately, Jackie Baillie’s problem is that her leader overruled her at the time that we are talking about. On “Newsnight Scotland”, Iain Gray said:“We w...
Margo MacDonald
Ind
I would like to get this right. Does the Government allege that it is spending £800 million or so more on the health service than was spent on the health ser...
Michael Matheson
SNP
I can tell Margo MacDonald that, as I said, by 2014-15, we will have a record £11.6 billion going into our NHS, which is the highest amount that the NHS has ...
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con)
Con
We are not here to debate Wales; we are not here to debate the national health service in England; and we are not even here any longer—after six years—to deb...
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP)
SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jackson Carlaw
Con
I will at the end of my sentence, if I may.I do not believe for a moment that what they have been doing has been designed to undermine the NHS, but it smacks...
Jamie Hepburn
SNP
I am not sure that the end of the sentence was worth waiting for—
Jackson Carlaw
Con
In that case, I will move on without letting Mr Hepburn take the intervention any further.The challenge to the NHS is considerable. We know that a demographi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer
Con
We move to the open debate, with speeches of four minutes, please.16:16
Aileen McLeod (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I congratulate Alex Neil on his new role as Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing and wish him well in taking on the portfolio. I know that, whatever co...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Aileen McLeod
SNP
If I thought for one second that the Labour Party had anything positive or constructive to say in this debate, I would gladly take an intervention from Jacki...
Duncan McNeil (Greenock and Inverclyde) (Lab)
Lab
We have heard from colleagues who have touched on a number of areas where patient care has fallen below acceptable standards. In my brief speech, I will focu...
Jamie Hepburn (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP)
SNP
Earlier this week, the Royal College of Nursing launched a campaign called “This is nursing”, to challenge the negative publicity about patient neglect and p...
Jackie Baillie
Lab
I have been in the chamber time after time when the SNP has essentially hidden behind the NHS staff. It is NHS staff who are coming to me with stories about ...
Jamie Hepburn
SNP
It may be a surprise to Jackie Baillie, but we all have constituents who work in the NHS and we all hear issues of concern, which we rightly take forward. Le...
Margo MacDonald
Ind
Rather than going into the records, because we will never agree on that, could we try to find agreement on why there should be a shortfall on the wards? I sp...
Jamie Hepburn
SNP
I would be delighted, as always, to speak to Ms MacDonald. If she does not mind, though, I will decide on the content of my speech.I heard Jackie Baillie say...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Lab
I will concentrate my remarks on the Scottish Ambulance Service and start by paying tribute to the excellent staff who operate our ambulances and our control...
Dave Thompson (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP)
SNP
Will the member give way?
Rhoda Grant
Lab
I will not take an intervention, because time is very short and I have many points to make.That is not the only issue that puts patients at risk; dropped shi...