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Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
16 Mar 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill
I welcome the opportunity to support the motion in the name of my Labour colleague Rhoda Grant. I offer her my unreserved congratulations on bringing to the Parliament a bill which, when enacted, will undoubtedly better the lot of victims of domestic abuse. Domestic abuse is a...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
19 Jan 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I rise to support the motion in the name of my Labour colleague, Rhoda Grant. I first congratulate the member on bringing to Parliament a bill that, if enacted, will undoubtedly better the lot of the victims of domestic abuse, which is a repellent and totally unacceptable form...
Bill Butler: Lab Chamber
28 Nov 2002
Domestic Abuse
No. I do not have time.We cannot talk of living in a civilised society when a British Medical Association report from 1998 shows that 25 per cent of women experience domestic abuse at some point in their lives and police statistics for 2001 reveal that there were 35,000 report...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2010
Violence Against Men
I rise to support the amendment in the name of my colleague, Johann Lamont. The subject of this afternoon’s debate is, as the Government’s motion describes it, a “very serious and totally unacceptable problem in Scottish society”.Domestic abuse, whether physical or psychologic...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab): Lab Chamber
18 May 2004
Racism in Football
I thank everyone who signed up in support of the motion and I am delighted at the extent of that support—50 members from all parties. I also acknowledge the contribution of the major sponsors of the Show Racism the Red Card campaign, including the Scottish Football Association...
Bill Butler: Lab Committee
26 Jan 2010
New Petitions
The issue is obviously very serious. Domestic abuse is domestic abuse is domestic abuse. I applaud the bravery of Mr A and Mr B in coming to the meeting.We should agree with the convener and continue the petition. We should write to the Scottish Government and ask it what its ...
Bill Butler Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2010
Violence Against Men
There is no doubt that alcohol is part of the problem—I accept that—but how we deal with it is a question for another debate.I want to say one last thing about the statistics. Given that there is thought still to be an underreporting of domestic abuse, the recent figures are a...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab): Lab Chamber
28 Nov 2002
Domestic Abuse
Domestic abuse—be it physical, psychological, sexual or emotional—can never be condoned. That is the position of the Scottish Labour party and I believe that it is the position of every member of the Parliament. As the minister said in her opening speech, it is apt that we are...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab) Lab Committee
05 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning, colleagues, and welcome to the committee.You may all want to respond to this question. Is there a danger that the bill will add to the complexity of the law surrounding domestic abuse? Would it be preferable to improve the effectiveness of existing measures to de...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab) Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning, colleagues. You will know that the evidence supplied by Scottish Women’s Aid states that women currently have no confidence in the ability of interdicts to tackle domestic abuse. Does the Law Society believe that existing mechanisms for dealing with breach of int...
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I thought that you would say that.ASSIST argued that criminalising a breach of an interdict in domestic abuse cases would provide additional protection to victims of domestic abuse by taking the matter out of the hands of victims and placing it in the hands of the police. Basi...
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You know that section 3 of the bill makes it a criminal offence to breach an interdict with power of arrest in domestic abuse cases. What is your view of existing measures, such as those relating to contempt of court? Are they adequate to deal with breach of interdict in domes...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab): Lab Chamber
26 Jan 2005
St Mirren Football Club
I congratulate my colleague Wendy Alexander on securing this evening's members' business debate and on bringing this serious issue to Parliament's notice once again.Like other members, I wish to place on record my support for the action that has been taken by St Mirren in impo...
Bill Butler Lab Committee
05 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning. Thank you for coming along. I will put to you the same question that I put to the first panel of witnesses. In your view, is there a danger that the bill will add to the complexity of the law surrounding domestic abuse? Would improving the effectiveness of existi...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab) Lab Chamber
15 Sep 2010
Drugs Strategy
No one in the Parliament is not acutely aware of the scale of drug misuse in Scotland, the suffering that it causes the individuals who abuse drugs and their families, and the misery that it can generate in communities the length and breadth of Scotland. The scale of the probl...
Bill Butler Lab Chamber
15 Sep 2010
Drugs Strategy
No, thank you.Between 40,000 and 60,000 children in Scotland are estimated to have a drug-abusing parent. Between 10,000 and 20,000 of them live with their drug-abusing parents and must attempt as best they can to deal with their parents’ chaotic lifestyles. That cannot be rig...
Bill Butler Lab Chamber
15 Sep 2010
Drugs Strategy
I am not sure; perhaps I should have used the phrase “drug abuse”.I would like the Government to pay greater attention to the problem that we face in our prisons. Unfortunately, as Cathie Craigie indicated, drug taking is part of daily life in too many of our prisons. That can...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab) Lab Committee
21 Dec 2010
Current Petitions
I welcome the triumvirate of ministers to the Public Petitions Committee; this is a serious issue. I pose the first question to Shona Robison and Adam Ingram as, respectively, the Minister for Public Health and Sport and the Minister for Children and Early Years.The recommenda...
Bill Butler Lab Committee
22 Feb 2011
Current Petitions
I am inclined to say that there is not much more that we can do. I am encouraged by the fact that there will be further educational material on domestic abuse from the Scottish Government that will include the experiences of women, men and children. We all agree that domestic ...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab): Lab Committee
31 Mar 2004
Protection from Abuse (Scotland) Act 2001
I agree with all the suggestions from members about action to be taken. As members have mentioned all the points that are suggested in our briefing paper as issues to raise with the Executive, it would be worth while to raise them. The act's proper application, training and le...
Bill Butler: Lab Committee
31 Mar 2004
Protection from Abuse (Scotland) Act 2001
Yes.
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab): Lab Committee
08 Sep 2005
Petition
Like other members, I have read the letters from the deputy minister and the petitioner very carefully. I am not convinced that any change in the law is necessary or desirable and indeed concur with the position of the deputy minister and the Executive that extending absolute ...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab): Lab Committee
20 Jan 2009
Offences (Aggravation by Prejudice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Good morning, Mr Page. In your written evidence, you state:"LGBT and disabled people are significantly more likely to be targets of various types of crime, including harassment, abuse and assaults".How will the provisions in the bill help to address that situation?
Bill Butler: Lab Committee
01 Sep 2009
Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Perhaps we can turn back to the bill.As you know, cabinet secretary, section 134 enables applications for occasional licences to be fast-tracked where appropriate, with the time allowed for comments from chief constables and licensing standards officers reduced from 21 days to...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab): Lab Chamber
30 Sep 2004
Emergency Workers (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
To echo Michael Matheson, when I first saw the slim, four-page Emergency Workers (Scotland) Bill, I did not suspect what lay in store for him, me and other committee colleagues. I suppose that we judged that such a bill's policy intention would meet with universal support and ...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab): Lab Chamber
14 Dec 2005
Interests of Members of the Scottish Parliament Bill: Stage 1
In February, the Parliament debated the Standards Committee's first report of 2005, entitled "Replacing the Members' Interests Order". The report set out the proposal that the committee should introduce a committee bill to replace the subordinate legislation that currently gov...
Bill Butler: Lab Chamber
28 Sep 2006
Trident
Does the member accept that thousands of Labour Party members and trade unionists are against the renewal of Trident? The way to convince Westminster MPs is by persuasion—as in the Greens' logical amendment—rather than by the abuse that is coming from some members of the SNP. ...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab): Lab Chamber
07 Mar 2007
Football (Sectarianism)
I congratulate my colleague Alasdair Morrison on securing the debate. It is especially timely, given that an old firm derby is to be held this weekend and watched by religious leaders, including the moderator of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland, the Right Rev Ala...
Bill Butler: Lab Chamber
20 Sep 2007
Penal Policy
I agree that sentences should change behaviour and reduce the long-term threat, but what the SNP seems to propose in its manifesto would, as I have just outlined, lead to people who had committed serious offences roaming the streets. The public should be protected from such pe...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab): Lab Chamber
18 Mar 2009
Offences<br />(Aggravation by Prejudice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I support the motion in the name of our colleague Patrick Harvie on the Offences (Aggravation by Prejudice) (Scotland) Bill, and I congratulate the member on the progress that he has made thus far.As deputy convener of the Justice Committee, I put on record my thanks to the co...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab): Lab Chamber
03 Jun 2009
Offences (Aggravation by Prejudice) (Scotland) Bill
I support the motion in the name of our colleague, Patrick Harvie, and I congratulate Mr Harvie on introducing this progressive legislation. As colleagues will be aware, the aim of the bill is"to create new statutory aggravations to protect victims of crime who are targeted as...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab): Lab Committee
26 Jan 2010
New Petitions
Listening to Mr A, one could not help but be sympathetic. I have a few questions for Ms Waugh and Mr Forsyth.Ms Waugh, you said that the usual claim is that men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators of domestic abuse. Let me play devil's advocate. What evidence do you have to di...
Bill Butler: Lab Committee
26 Jan 2010
New Petitions
Yes, but in the quote from her research that I read out—I am sure that you have read the whole paper; I have not—she seemed to be saying that the nature of the violence used and perhaps the circumstances were different, depending on the gender of the perpetrator. You quoted an...
Bill Butler Lab Chamber
10 Jun 2010
Violence Against Men
This is no laughing matter, Mr Rumbles.I accept that both men and women can be victims of domestic violence and abuse. Violence in relationships, in all its forms, is to be abhorred, and appropriate support must be on offer in all circumstances. Nevertheless, our approach must...
Bill Butler Lab Committee
05 Oct 2010
New Petitions
This is a very serious issue that has dragged on for many years, and there is a real need for action and a sense of urgency—I presume that members agree.I suggest that we write to the Government and ask, first, what its reaction is to the petition; secondly, whether it intends...
Bill Butler Lab Committee
05 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Do the other witnesses agree?
Bill Butler Lab Committee
05 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Do you agree with Louise Johnson, and is it your experience, that the action that is open to the women of taking the perpetrator to court for contempt of court has never or only rarely been undertaken?
Bill Butler Lab Committee
05 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
So that increases the pressure on the woman, who is innocent.
Bill Butler Lab Committee
05 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
From either the perpetrator or the extended family.
Bill Butler Lab Committee
05 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You said that the current situation is not tenable. Can you explain in greater detail why it is not tenable?
Bill Butler Lab Committee
05 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is a clear answer.
Bill Butler Lab Committee
05 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is very clear. Thank you.
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Indeed. That leads nicely on to my next question.The Law Society has grave concerns about relaxing the standard of proof and corroboration, but we heard in evidence from Scottish Women’s Aid that there are already exceptions to the corroboration requirement, for example in rel...
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It would be performed by someone—
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
So you would say that the argument of Scottish Women’s Aid is understandable but that, in the Law Society’s view, it does not bear scrutiny.
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It is a policy matter. I was simply asking for the Law Society’s view, which you have expressed. You have nothing further to add.
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you very much.
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is a clear answer.
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You are saying that, in practice, they are useless.
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
So they are of limited use.
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I try my best.
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
So your view is that this aspect of the bill relates in a much more realistic way to what actually happens in the real world.
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You have just taken the next question out of my mouth. Obviously, you agree with Scottish Women’s Aid that this is “a toothless and ineffectual remedy”. You have already said it; you do not have to say it again.
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I gave you the opportunity to be more lawerly.
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Perhaps I should not have asked the question.The Law Society of Scotland has real concerns about the standard of proof and corroboration in respect of criminal offences under section 3 of the bill. Does the Crown Office have a view on that?
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
So you would have concerns.
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Do you agree with that, Miss Hicks?
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
So we should have that safeguard.
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Do you have anything to say on the matter, Mr Livingstone?
Bill Butler Lab Committee
26 Oct 2010
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am grateful, Mr Livingstone. I should have asked the question of you earlier.Does the panel have anything to say about the resource implications of enforcing the provision? I seek both police and Crown Office points of view.
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 16 March 2011

16 Mar 2011 · S3 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill
Butler, Bill Lab Glasgow Anniesland Watch on SPTV
I welcome the opportunity to support the motion in the name of my Labour colleague Rhoda Grant. I offer her my unreserved congratulations on bringing to the Parliament a bill which, when enacted, will undoubtedly better the lot of victims of domestic abuse. Domestic abuse is a totally unacceptable and repellent form of behaviour, and she is to be commended for her hard work and commitment in producing a progressive bill that I am certain will be passed overwhelmingly at decision time.

The bill seeks to widen access to justice for victims of domestic abuse and to produce a more robust and reliable response to breached civil protection orders. As Mr Ewing said, there is no doubt that domestic abuse continues to be a stain on Scottish society.

Domestic abuse in all its forms is underreported, as Stewart Maxwell said. However, the figures that we have demonstrate the worrying extent of the problem. In Scotland in 2008-09, 53,681 cases of domestic abuse were reported to the police, which was an 8 per cent increase on the number that was reported in the previous year. The figure reflects the year-on-year rise of reported incidents since data first started to be collected in 1999-2000. There is, indeed, no room for complacency, even though there was a 4 per cent decrease in reported cases last year. For instance, repeated victimisation rates remain high, despite a fall from 61 per cent in 2008-9 to 57 per cent in 2009-10.

Those shocking statistics represent flesh and blood victims who are, overwhelmingly, female and who suffer physical and sexual abuse from partners and ex-partners. The crimes range from assault and physical attack to acts that degrade and humiliate women and are perpetrated against their will, including rape.

I believe that the provisions in Rhoda Grant’s bill will tackle deficiencies in the current law and support those who are victims of gross and barbaric behaviour.

Section 1 will introduce new section 8A into the Protection from Harassment Act 1997, which will remove the requirement to show a course of conduct before a non-harassment order can be granted in civil proceedings involving domestic abuse. The new provision will mean that someone will need to provide evidence of only one occasion of harassment and not evidence that such conduct has taken place repeatedly.

The Justice Committee acknowledged in its stage 1 report the wide support, including from the Government, for removing the course of conduct requirement for civil non-harassment orders, and it was quite right to do so. No one would wish to stand in the way of legislation that will remove the requirement for a victim to undergo, in effect, a period of repeated abuse before being able to access an order. Such a state of affairs is completely unjust and unacceptable. Section 1 represents a reform that is rational, sides with the victim and, frankly, is long overdue.

I also support section 3, which creates a criminal offence when an interdict with power of arrest is breached. That reform will remove from the victim the burden of pursuing a contempt of court through the civil court and will instead place it, correctly, on the shoulders of the authorities. That provision is civilised, progressive and worthy of unanimous support.

I welcome the amendment that Rhoda Grant proposed at stage 2 and which the committee agreed unanimously that provides for a maximum penalty of 12 months’ imprisonment on summary conviction for breach of an interdict with power of arrest. That amendment was wholly appropriate and proportionate.

The bill will ensure that essential protection is available to all victims of abuse, and it demonstrates that this Parliament, in the name of the people of Scotland, will always take the appropriate measures to defend victims of abuse. It is a good bill and will do much to make Scotland a better nation. I commend it to members.

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In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alex Fergusson) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S3M-8136, in the name of Rhoda Grant, on the Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill. I repeat that we are very tight ...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
It gives me great pleasure to open the debate. The bill has taken a long time to bring forward, and there were times when I thought that we would never get h...
The Minister for Community Safety (Fergus Ewing) SNP
I am grateful for the opportunity to outline the Government’s approach to the bill.In one unfortunate respect, the bill is timely, in that the incidence of d...
Richard Baker (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I join all those who have commended Rhoda Grant for bringing before Parliament this important legislation to tackle domestic abuse. She can be proud of her w...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con) Con
Instances of domestic abuse in Scotland remain stubbornly—indeed, disgracefully—high. There were 51,926 incidents of domestic abuse in the last recorded year...
Robert Brown (Glasgow) (LD) LD
The bill addresses a serious matter to which the Parliament has devoted quite a bit of attention over the years since 1999 and which calls for serious politi...
Stewart Maxwell (West of Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I begin where Robert Brown left off by saying how much I admire the work that Rhoda Grant has undertaken on the bill. It is not easy to take through any memb...
Bill Butler (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to support the motion in the name of my Labour colleague Rhoda Grant. I offer her my unreserved congratulations on bringing to the ...
Nigel Don (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I congratulate Bill Butler on that exposition of what Parliament is about, with which of course I entirely concur. I also congratulate Rhoda Grant on introdu...
Mike Pringle (Edinburgh South) (LD) LD
Like all other members who have spoken in the debate this afternoon, I congratulate Rhoda Grant on getting the Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill through to stag...
Bill Aitken Con
I thank Mike Pringle for his kind remarks, which I appreciated.I hope that when the bill is passed, Rhoda Grant does not feel that because of what happened t...
James Kelly (Glasgow Rutherglen) (Lab) Lab
I, too, congratulate Rhoda Grant on what I am sure will be the passing of the bill later this afternoon. As Mike Pringle said, navigating a member’s bill thr...
Fergus Ewing SNP
Maureen Macmillan was referred to earlier in proceedings, and I am delighted to see that she is in the public gallery witnessing the debate. I recall from st...
Rhoda Grant Lab
I thank all members who took part in the debate for their kind words—in fact, their words were so kind that when Roseanna Cunningham came into the chamber sh...