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Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con) Con Chamber
22 Mar 2011
Double Jeopardy (Scotland) Bill
It is appropriate that the final debate in this session should deal with an important legal principle. The principle of the rule against double jeopardy has been enshrined in Scots law down the centuries. It would be oppressive if we lived in a society in which the Crown or th...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con) Con Chamber
22 Mar 2011
Double Jeopardy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I agree with James Kelly, although perhaps for different reasons. As is generally known, I am a great supporter of the common law, which I believe has served Scotland well over the centuries. However, James Kelly is right to support these amendments today, and we will support ...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con) Con Chamber
17 Mar 2011
Clydebank Blitz 70th Anniversary
I congratulate Des McNulty on bringing the matter before the Parliament. I speak as a member of a fairly blessed generation. Born post-war, I did not have to go and fight. My father had to, as did his father, who lost an arm in the process. Nor did I, as a child, live under th...
Bill Aitken Con Chamber
16 Mar 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill
I thank Mike Pringle for his kind remarks, which I appreciated.I hope that when the bill is passed, Rhoda Grant does not feel that because of what happened to section 2 she is getting only half the loaf—although half a loaf is clearly better than no loaf—because I do not think...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con) Con Chamber
16 Mar 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill
Instances of domestic abuse in Scotland remain stubbornly—indeed, disgracefully—high. There were 51,926 incidents of domestic abuse in the last recorded year, which is unacceptable. Those incidents happened despite the best efforts of everyone concerned over the past 12 years....
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con) Con Chamber
16 Mar 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
There were always going to be definitional difficulties. There is no doubt that when we sat down to establish whether a route forward was ascertainable, it was exceptionally difficult. I am not at all satisfied that there may not have to be some judicial determination of some ...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con) Con Chamber
03 Mar 2011
Damages (Scotland) Bill
When someone is killed or dies as a result of an industrial accident or illness or in the short and fairly traumatic circumstances of a road traffic accident, and where there is negligence and liability, the settlement should be achieved firmly, fairly and expeditiously.Bill B...
Bill Aitken Con Chamber
03 Mar 2011
Damages (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Bill Butler has spent a lot of time and put a lot of commitment into getting the bill through the Parliament and his enthusiasm for having it implemented as soon as possible is entirely understandable. However, certain dangers could arise if we proceeded as he has suggested in...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con) Con Chamber
03 Mar 2011
Damages (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 3 obviates a difficulty that could arise. Overall, consideration of this matter has revealed that we can no longer operate on the basis of the nuclear family. Times have changed and the law must move with them. The amendments that are proposed by Mr Ewing are satisfa...
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Subordinate Legislation
That concludes the public part of the meeting.13:06 Meeting continued in private until 13:14.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Subordinate Legislation
It is a question of arithmetic rather than the law. There being no further questions, we proceed to item 5, which is formal consideration of the motion to approve the instrument that we considered under the previous item. I ask Mr Ewing to move the motion formally.Motion moved...
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Subordinate Legislation
Surely, minister, the point is that it is possible to be a step-parent at a much earlier age than that at which one could become a parent.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Subordinate Legislation
The list of offences is clearly stated in article 2 of the order. Do members have questions?
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Subordinate Legislation
The purpose of agenda item 4 is to allow the committee to take evidence on an affirmative instrument: the draft Retention of Samples etc (Children’s Hearings) (Scotland) Order 2011. As noted in paper 3, the instrument relates to a provision in the Criminal Justice and Licensin...
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
That ends stage 2 consideration of the bill. There is clearly still a bit of work to be done but, in view of the obvious goodwill that exists, I am confident that that can be achieved.12:49 Meeting suspended. 12:53 On resuming—
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Ms Grant, do you feel the need to wind up?
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Against the background of that glowing endorsement, does the minister have anything to add?
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The amendments appear to be fairly straightforward. Are there any other contributions?
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The next group is on ancillary provision and commencement. Amendment 9, in the name of Rhoda Grant, is grouped with amendments 10 and 11.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The result of the division is: For 3, Against 5, Abstentions 0.Amendment 18 disagreed to.Section 4—Meaning of “domestic abuse”Amendment 8 moved—Rhoda Grant—and agreed to.Before section 5
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
There will be a division.ForButler, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab)Craigie, Cathie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (Lab)Kelly, James (Glasgow Rutherglen) (Lab)AgainstAitken, Bill (Glasgow) (Con)Brown, Robert (Glasgow) (LD)Don, Nigel (North East Scotland) (SNP) Maxwell, Stewart (West...
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The question is, that amendment 18 be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
So says the minister, with all due immodesty. I presume that you do not want to wind up, Ms Grant.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The next group is on the maximum period of imprisonment on summary conviction. Amendment 6, in the name of Rhoda Grant, is the only amendment in the group.12:45
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The result of the division is: For 3, Against 5, Abstentions 0.Amendment 5A disagreed to.Amendment 5 agreed to.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
There will be a division.ForButler, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab)Craigie, Cathie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (Lab)Kelly, James (Glasgow Rutherglen) (Lab)AgainstAitken, Bill (Glasgow) (Con)Brown, Robert (Glasgow) (LD)Don, Nigel (North East Scotland) (SNP) Maxwell, Stewart (West...
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The question is, that amendment 5A be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 16, in the name of Rhoda Grant, was debated with amendment 15. If amendment 16 is agreed to, I cannot call amendment 5, or as a consequence amendment 5A, on the grounds of pre-emption.Amendment 16 not moved.Amendment 5 moved—Fergus Ewing.Amendment 5A moved—Rhoda Grant.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The result of the division is: For 3, Against 5, Abstentions 0.Amendment 15 disagreed to.Section 3—Breach of interdict with power of arrest
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
There will be a division.ForButler, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (Lab)Craigie, Cathie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (Lab)Kelly, James (Glasgow Rutherglen) (Lab)AgainstAitken, Bill (Glasgow) (Con)Brown, Robert (Glasgow) (LD)Don, Nigel (North East Scotland) (SNP) Maxwell, Stewart (West...
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The question is, that amendment 15 be agreed to. Are we agreed?Members: No.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
We will come to amendment 15 in a moment. This is going to be complicated.Amendment 15A, by agreement, withdrawn.Amendments 15B and 15C not moved.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
We are talking about amendment 15A.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
As has already been commented upon, we have before us a plethora of amendments that are predicated on the difficulties of definition. We anticipated that at stage 1. It is not easy to come up with a satisfactory definition. If it was, I would have lodged an amendment as well, ...
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
We move on to interdicts, breach of which is an offence. Amendment 15, in the name of Rhoda Grant, is grouped with amendments 15A to 15C, 16, 5, 5A, 17, 7 and 18. I draw members’ attention to the pre-emption information in the groupings paper.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Let us deal with matters as we get to them. Believe me, it will make life simpler.Amendment 13, by agreement, withdrawn.Amendment 4 moved—Fergus Ewing—and agreed to.After section 2Amendment 14 not moved.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
It was clear at the stage 1 debate that there were difficulties with regard to section 2. Rhoda Grant has clearly recognised that, because amendment 13 would remove section 2 and substitute a wording that Rhoda Grant feels would assure what we all want, namely that the victims...
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Section 2 amendments are on the provision of civil legal aid in cases of domestic abuse and the monitoring of such provision. Amendment 13, in the name of Rhoda Grant, is grouped with amendments 4, 14 and 12.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I invite Rhoda Grant to wind up and to indicate whether she will press or withdraw amendment 1, although the answer is fairly self-evident.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The issue concerned me, not because I had any particular issues about the direction of travel—far from it—but because of definitional problems that could have arisen. I am pleased about the discussion and progress towards what I regard as a satisfactory outcome. That is, of co...
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Section 1 is on non-harassment orders in cases of domestic abuse. Amendment 1, in the name of Rhoda Grant, is grouped with amendments 2, 3 and 8.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Under agenda item 3, we have the only planned day of stage 2 proceedings on the Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill. There are 22 amendments—including, unusually, some amendments to amendments—and for the purpose of debate they have been organised into five groups.I welcome Rhoda G...
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
There are no further questions. I thank the minister and Mr Stockwell for their attendance this morning. There are a number of unanswered questions—more than I would have preferred—so it would be appreciated if we could have the information as quickly as possible.11:34 Meeting...
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We turn to residential ground leases.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I think that it was Professor Rennie.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That issue can be considered.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We will move on. James Kelly will ask about finance.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
An awful lot of leases will be concentrated in comparatively limited areas. Is there a danger of getting a skewed result?
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Cathie Craigie will finish off the questioning in this area, but before she does, I draw your attention to the fact that although the SLC looked at entries in the land register for its study, it did so for only four out of the 33 land registration counties. One hopes that its ...
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Did you consider Professor Gretton’s suggestion—which there is certainly evidence to support—that it might be advantageous to increase the period from 175 years to 225 years?
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
To some extent, we are talking about the matter in a vacuum, as we do not have the numbers on which we could make a reasoned judgment. The estimate that only seven leases would be affected suggests that the issue is not of great importance, but we cannot be totally satisfied t...
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We will now move on to perhaps less contentious issues. You have had the opportunity of listening to the evidence of Mr Strachan, of Brodies, and you have also had sight of the evidence that we have received in recent weeks.Professors Gretton and Rennie dispute the policy need...
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I was merely citing Glasgow as an example. In fairness, it is probably the extreme example, because of its population, but the issues could apply just as readily, albeit on a much reduced scale, to any other local authority area.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The issue still arises. As all of us know, there are people in every community who get a bee in their bonnet about certain issues. Glasgow is the most obvious example, because it is the biggest local authority. The number of people who are likely to make an issue of common goo...
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you very much. Robert Brown will open with questions on common good.
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I welcome the final witnesses: Fergus Ewing MSP, the Minister for Community Safety, who will be with us for the bulk of the remainder of the morning to discuss various issues; and Simon Stockwell, the bill team manager, from the Scottish Government. We will take a short statem...
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It was important for us to have had you here for this session and to have received your written submission. It has been exceptionally helpful that you have come to the committee to answer our questions, and we are most appreciative.10:27 Meeting suspended. 10:28 On resuming—
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Ms Reilly?
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Is there anything that you would like to add, Mr Strachan?
The Convener Con Committee
08 Feb 2011
Long Leases (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Are there any other questions for Mr Strachan? I see that Nigel Don wants to come in.
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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 22 March 2011

22 Mar 2011 · S3 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Double Jeopardy (Scotland) Bill
It is appropriate that the final debate in this session should deal with an important legal principle. The principle of the rule against double jeopardy has been enshrined in Scots law down the centuries. It would be oppressive if we lived in a society in which the Crown or the prosecution service had carte blanche to prosecute time after time. No one in the Parliament would support that, but it is understandable that there have been objections from legal purists and scholars that what we are doing is perhaps not appropriate. Much as I respect them, I dismiss those objections. How could we, as politicians, explain to the public that people who walk free can remain free after they have admitted committing serious crimes or if their acquittals are found to have been tainted as a result of jury nobbling or coercion? We could not explain that away and it is therefore perfectly correct that the Government and the Parliament seek to change the law.

It is important that we relate what we are doing today to our contemporary circumstances. We are seeking to underline the fact that new evidence can now be brought forward that could only have been dreamed about 20 or even 10 years ago. Forensic science has improved and DNA technology now enables prosecutors and the police to deal with matters that could not have been considered some years ago.

We also seek to remedy the problem of tainted acquittals, many of which result from serious and organised crime. Members had better believe that those who engage in such crime are serious and organised—they will coerce and threaten jurors and we cannot have that.

At the same time, we have built into the bill the appropriate protections to ensure fairness. The Government has accepted the view that I put forward, which was shared by others, that the general new-evidence exception should be restricted to cases dealt with in the High Court. That will deal with homicides, serious sexual assaults and other offences for which a high-tariff sentence could be expected. The public have the right to expect that such cases will be prosecuted.

There is also a provision whereby a decision to allow a reprosecution can be made only after the Lord Advocate has applied to the Scottish court of criminal appeal and a bench of three judges has decided that that is the appropriate route to take. That is surely a protection in itself. I do not imagine that there will be a rush of such cases. If the experience in England is replicated, not only will there not be a plethora of such cases, there will be very few of them indeed, and that is as it should be.

On more minor matters, the Crown has the option of prosecuting on a charge of attempting to pervert the course of justice, and that is the way forward.

Some members have said some very kind words about me during the debate, and I appreciate that very much indeed. Perhaps uncharacteristically, I propose to say some kind words myself. [Laughter.] First, I thank my staff: the Conservative researcher Erin Boyle; Gillian McPherson, who has done a huge amount of work on the legislation that the Justice Committee has considered over the past two years; and, in particular, my parliamentary secretary, Sandra Robinson, who has not only put up with me for the best part of 12 years but done so cheerfully, efficiently and effectively.

I turn to my political colleagues. Some cynic once said that in politics you do not make many friends, but you certainly increase the number and quality of your enemies. I have not found that to be so. I thank the Presiding Officer for his friendship over the years—for more years than either of us would like to remember. Robert Brown said that our political careers have run in tandem but, of course, he tried to puncture my bike way back in 1976, when he fought to prevent me from being elected in the council by-election, my success in which led on to my work as an MSP.

I have old friends and I have newer friends. When I came to the Parliament, I met Cathie Craigie on the Social Inclusion, Housing and Voluntary Sector Committee. I admired her common sense then and I still admire it. Later on, I got to know others, such as Stewart Maxwell, Mike Pringle, James Kelly and Richard Baker, with whom I have no doubt that I will continue to fight like cat and dog on the various media channels. I thank Margo MacDonald for her friendship over the years—Margo is an incomparable individual—and I thank my group colleagues, particularly John Lamont, who have been tremendously supportive over the past four years.

It has been a privilege to serve in the Parliament, which is a quite different and much better place than it was 12 years ago. It is a matter for regret that some members are unlikely to come back, particularly in the case of Robert Brown, whose outstanding contribution the Parliament will miss a great deal, but to all my colleagues I express my best wishes for the future and thank them for their fellowship and friendship over the past 12 years. [Applause.]

11:28

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Alasdair Morgan) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S3M-8156, in the name of Kenny MacAskill, on the Double Jeopardy (Scotland) Bill.10:34
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Kenny MacAskill) SNP
I am pleased that, at the end of the parliamentary session, we will complete what is an important reform. The Double Jeopardy (Scotland) Bill, the final piec...
Richard Baker (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
As we enter the final hours before the dissolution of Parliament, I have no doubt that justice issues will be some of the most hotly debated in the weeks ahe...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I was just going to say that you can carry on, Mr Baker.
Richard Baker Lab
Oh, really? Such largesse, Deputy Presiding Officer—you are obviously demob happy. We wish you well. I for one very much valued your convenership of the Ente...
John Lamont (Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
Like others, I am very pleased to speak in this stage 3 debate on the Double Jeopardy (Scotland) Bill. It has taken us some time to get to this point, but I ...
Robert Brown (Glasgow) (LD) LD
I am glad to open for the Liberal Democrats in the last justice debate, the last stage 3 debate and the last substantive debate of the parliamentary session....
Stewart Maxwell (West of Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I thank in particular the Justice Committee clerks for their assistance, advice and support on the bill and over the past four years. I have been a committee...
Cathie Craigie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (Lab) Lab
Presiding Officer, thank you for allowing me the privilege of speaking in the last debate in this session. I thank the people of Cumbernauld and Kilsyth for ...
Richard Baker Lab
Bill Aitken.
Cathie Craigie Lab
What did I say?Members: Bill Butler.
Cathie Craigie Lab
Oh, goodness. That’s Bill Butler got a promotion, although maybe he does not want it.As convener, Bill Aitken has always dealt fairly with the committee’s pr...
Nigel Don (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I am in my characteristic position as the final back-bench speaker—a sort of tail gunner—so I must repeat one or two things, although that is not something t...
Mike Pringle (Edinburgh South) (LD) LD
As my colleague Robert Brown has already indicated, the Liberal Democrats will support the Government’s Double Jeopardy (Scotland) Bill. We are glad to do so...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con) Con
It is appropriate that the final debate in this session should deal with an important legal principle. The principle of the rule against double jeopardy has ...
James Kelly (Glasgow Rutherglen) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to close the stage 3 debate on the Double Jeopardy (Scotland) Bill on behalf of the Labour Party.It is difficult to follow such a s...
Kenny MacAskill SNP
This has been a remarkably consensual debate, as it should have been for two reasons: first, because it has dealt with the final bill that the Parliament wil...