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The Convener (Bill Aitken): Con Committee
21 Sep 2005
Late Witness Statements
Good morning. I welcome the press and public to the 11th meeting this year of the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee. I begin with my customary request that everyone present switch off their mobile phones and pagers.The first agenda item is to consider correspondence fro...
The Convener (Bill Aitken): Con Committee
22 Jun 2005
Consideration Stage
Good morning ladies and gentlemen—I extend to you all a warm welcome to the eighth meeting in 2005 of the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee. We are now at the first phase of the consideration stage, when the committee will consider in detail the objections to the bill a...
The Convener: Con Committee
28 Sep 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
Item 2 is oral evidence taking. Members will no doubt be aware of continuing press speculation about the costs of building the tramline and whether it might have to be constructed in stages. We received a paper from the promoter on Monday updating the position on the overall e...
Bill Aitken: Con Committee
20 Nov 2002
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
This group of amendments relates to section 14 of the bill, which deals with victim statements. I think that it is fair to say that, when the committee first considered victim statements, we found that the issue was a vexed one. On the face of it, the idea seemed good, but the...
The Convener: Con Committee
18 May 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
I make it clear that the committee is still required to deliberate on the objections of groups that provide no further information. The promoter has suggested witnesses for all such groups, which will enable the committee, if it so chooses, to question the promoter's witnesses...
The Convener: Con Committee
21 Sep 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
We move to agenda item 2, which is oral evidence. We shall be taking evidence in relation to two groups of objectors: group 51, for whom the lead objector is the west Edinburgh residents trams action group, or WERTAG for short; and group 52, for whom the lead objector is Miss ...
The Convener (Bill Aitken): Con Committee
14 Jun 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line One) Bill and Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I welcome the press and public to the first joint meeting this year of the Edinburgh Tram (Line One) Bill Committee and the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee. I have apologies from Jamie Stone, who—sadly—cannot be with us as he is att...
Bill Aitken: Con Committee
20 Nov 2002
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I have heard nothing with which I disagree profoundly. When Stewart Stevenson emerged from his uncharacteristic purdah, he articulated well the justification for victim statements. Others have highlighted the difficulties that such a system could create.I want the minister to ...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
04 Mar 2004
Vulnerable Witnesses (Scotland) Bill
The debate has been consensual and useful; many valuable contributions have been made. As Annabel Goldie said, I suspect that the bill will pass unanimously. Indeed, it would be quite proper for it to do so.For most of us, the idea of appearing in court as a witness is a nuisa...
The Convener: Con Committee
16 Mar 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
The committee can thereafter invite certain written evidence, witness lists and witness summaries from objectors and the promoter. I ask members whether they agree with the dates that are set out in the paper for the receipt of the evidence from the objectors.I also recommend ...
The Convener: Con Committee
18 May 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
It appears from correspondence that has been received from Miss Reynolds that she may have wished to have lodged an objection to both tram bills but that she has, for whatever reason, objected only to the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill. She is perfectly entitled to do that, bu...
The Convener (Bill Aitken): Con Committee
28 Sep 2005
Proposed Alternative Alignments
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I welcome you to the 12th meeting this year of the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee. We have received apologies from Jeremy Purvis, who is unable to attend today's meeting. I ask everyone who is present to switch off their mobile pho...
The Convener: Con Committee
04 May 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
I encourage the promoter and Norwich Union to seek a resolution to Norwich Union's concerns, including any proposal for an alternative alignment. However, it is not a matter on which we should take oral evidence from the company. As other groups that are located near Norwich U...
The Convener: Con Committee
22 Jun 2005
Consideration Stage
There has been a change of witness: Mr David Todd will provide evidence instead of Michael Dawson. In common with all cases in which a substitution of witnesses occurs, the new witness is bound by the original witness statement.The community council has not rebutted Aileen Gra...
The Convener: Con Committee
28 Sep 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
Malcolm Thomson QC will question witnesses on behalf of the promoter. Mr Robert Smart is a witness for Murrayfield community council. However, as Mr Smart has not rebutted any of the promoter's witness statements, he will not be permitted to question those witnesses.Before we ...
The Convener: Con Committee
28 Sep 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
As committee members have no questions and as Mr Thomson is unable to re-examine the witness, that concludes oral evidence from the promoter. We return to the objector's witness, Adrian Hamilton. As Mr Hamilton does not have a questioner, he is able to make an opening statemen...
The Convener: Con Committee
18 May 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
Secondly, and perhaps for connected reasons, the witness summary that was provided is not as clear as it could be. We received oral confirmation from the chairman of Murrayfield community council that the issues that will be covered in witness statements and oral evidence are:...
The Convener: Con Committee
21 Sep 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
That concludes oral evidence from the promoter in respect of group 51.We now turn to the objectors' witness, who is Jacky McKinney. As she is a party objector and does not have legal representation, the system that we will adopt now is somewhat different. Miss McKinney will be...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
26 Nov 2009
Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It is with pleasure, compounded with relief, that I present the Justice Committee's stage 1 report on the Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Bill. The relief is caused by the fact that a long, complex and convoluted experience is now at an end. My pleasure is formed fro...
The Convener: Con Committee
26 Oct 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee: Consideration Stage
It seems that negotiations between the promoter and the objectors are paying dividends, which is a matter of some pleasure—indeed, relief—to the committee. Today we will take oral evidence only from the promoter's witnesses. All the remaining objectors are resting on their ori...
The Convener: Con Committee
21 Sep 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
That was easy, Mr Rintoul. Members have no questions for you, either.That concludes evidence from the promoter for group 52. We move on to the lead objector, who is Miss Honor Reynolds. Miss Reynolds does not have a questioner with her, so she will make an opening statement th...
Bill Aitken: Con Committee
18 Dec 2001
Sexual Offences (Procedure and Evidence) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
As has already been said, we are dealing with a difficult and complex matter, which requires deep consideration. That is why I shall reserve my position on the matter until stage 3. Further evidence or research may be necessary.There are a number of issues that I hope that the...
The Convener: Con Committee
04 May 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
Having agreed the new groups, I propose that from now on we refer to groups according to the numbers that are used in annex 1. All those groups and the promoter were invited to provide witness lists and summaries, which have been collated and circulated to members in a separat...
The Convener: Con Committee
18 May 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
As we have agreed to the new groups, I propose that, for ease of communication, we refer to them by the numbers that are used in annex 1.All the groups and the promoter were invited to provide witness lists and summaries, which have been collated and circulated to members. I a...
The Convener: Con Committee
22 Jun 2005
Consideration Stage
The next witness is Mr Oldfield, who will address the use of rail track and preserved rail routes. Before we begin questioning Mr Oldfield, I would welcome clarification that his witness statements and rebuttals are relevant to line 2 and not line 1, Mr Thomson.
The Convener: Con Committee
28 Jun 2005
Consideration Stage
Although he requires no introduction, I introduce Malcolm Thomson QC, who will be questioning the witnesses on behalf of the promoter, and Dr Martin Sales, who will be questioning the witnesses on behalf of the objector. Before we hear evidence from the first witness, I want t...
The Convener: Con Committee
28 Sep 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
Members have no questions for Mr Rintoul, whom I thank for attending. That concludes oral evidence from the promoter in relation to Murrayfield community council's objection. I allow the promoter's witnesses to leave the table.The objector's witness is Mr Robert Smart. As Mr S...
The Convener (Bill Aitken): Con Committee
26 Oct 2005
Proposed Alternative Alignments
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I welcome the press and the public to the 13th meeting this year of the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee. I apologise for our slightly late start; there has been a considerable drop-off in the number of objections to be heard today a...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
21 Nov 2001
Sexual Offences (Procedure and Evidence) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
In due course, the Conservatives might take issue with certain aspects of the bill, but we would be the first to concede that there are real difficulties in striking the appropriate balance between protecting the complainer and likely victim of crime on the one hand, and the r...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
18 Sep 2002
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
When I first saw the bill, I thought that it resembled a curate's egg—it was good in parts. I am now persuaded that it is not even that good. It is an uneasy mishmash of confused thinking and impractical liberalism. It also demonstrates a sad grasp of the realities of the patt...
Bill Aitken: Con Chamber
19 Feb 2003
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The debate thus far has encapsulated the problems that can be envisaged. My principal concern—shared by Duncan Hamilton—is that it has not been clear at any stage of the debate what the intentions are behind victim statements. Are they meant to impact upon sentencing? If so, t...
The Convener: Con Committee
04 May 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
I make it clear that where groups will provide no further information, the committee is still required to deliberate on their objections. In all cases, the promoter has suggested witnesses for the groups, which will enable the committee, if it chooses, to ask questions of the ...
The Convener: Con Committee
22 Jun 2005
Consideration Stage
We return to item 1. The first objection for the committee to consider is from the New Town, Broughton and Pilrig community council. Before we take evidence, I point out that Dr T Robinson will not give oral evidence on behalf of the community council, despite having provided ...
The Convener: Con Committee
22 Jun 2005
Consideration Stage
Each witness is bound by the terms of their oath or affirmation.The first witness will be Brian Evans, who will address the impacts on the world heritage site. I welcome Malcolm Thomson QC, who will question on behalf of the promoter, and Mr Ian Mowat, who will question on beh...
The Convener: Con Committee
21 Sep 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
Could I try to be helpful? You have raised quite an important point and this is an opportunity to put it to the witness who is giving evidence to the committee about construction impacts and, in particular, loss of privacy. Why do you not put that to the witness?
The Convener: Con Committee
28 Sep 2005
Proposed Alternative Alignments
I remind members that issues that are covered in witness summaries must have been raised in the relevant original objections. I have looked at the witness summary that objector 96—Safeway Stores Ltd and Wm Morrison plc—has provided and feel that it raises several issues that w...
The Convener: Con Committee
28 Sep 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
Thank you, Mr Sim. The next witness is Archibald Rintoul. He will address the issue of compensation. This witness has not been rebutted by Mr Hamilton, so Mr Hamilton will not be able to question him.
The Convener: Con Committee
26 Oct 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee: Consideration Stage
Thank you, Mr Thomson. We can now complete oral evidence taking on group 12, which is in the name of Mr Frank Earley. I invite the remaining witness, Matthew Edgar, to come to the witness table. He will cover the issue of compensation.Matthew Edgar took the oath.
Bill Aitken: Con Committee
26 Sep 2001
Sexual Offences (Procedure and Evidence) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am concerned about how the idea would impact on the jury. If the jury sees someone constantly intervening on behalf of the witness, the witness's credibility might come under increased scrutiny from the jury.
The Convener: Con Committee
27 May 2008
Community Policing Inquiry
Agenda item 5 is on witness expenses. Does the committee agree to delegate to me the responsibility for arranging to pay witness expenses that arise from the inquiry?Members indicated agreement.
Bill Aitken: Con Chamber
21 Nov 2001
Sexual Offences (Procedure and Evidence) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am happy to concede that there is a difficulty, which is the polarisation to which I referred earlier in my speech. Everybody is working with the same difficulty. The only consistent evidence on that that the committee heard was about the difficulty of subtly destructive evi...
Bill Aitken: Con Chamber
06 Mar 2002
Sexual Offences (Procedure and Evidence) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
It is fair to say that the Executive amendment that inserted section 8B at stage 2 has caused the Justice 2 Committee real problems. Once again, we are back to the question of balance. It is open to any accused—in a rape trial, for example—to attack the character of the witnes...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
13 Jan 2005
Victims and Witnesses
Bruce McFee is correct to say that the justice system is totally reliant on people coming forward to give evidence. If they are inhibited or frustrated in attempts to do so, the justice system comes under a great deal of pressure.Depending on the individual and the circumstanc...
The Convener: Con Committee
04 May 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
Before I close the meeting, I remind members, lead objectors and the promoter that the next deadline after Monday's timetable meeting is for witness statements to be submitted by 18 May. It is likely that the next committee meeting will take place on Wednesday 18 May.I thank m...
The Convener: Con Committee
18 May 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
The dates will be circulated to the promoter and the lead objectors in advance of their meeting the clerk. After those discussions, the committee will agree the finalised timetable at a future meeting. Thereafter, the next deadline for the objectors and the promoter will be to...
The Convener: Con Committee
21 Sep 2005
Late Witness Statements
The clerk will write to Mrs Kaur's representatives to inform them of the committee's decision.
The Convener: Con Committee
21 Sep 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
Mr Mansfield is a replacement for Gavin Murray and Barry Cross is a replacement for Neil Renilson. We received early advice on that. Both new witnesses will be bound by the content of the original witness statements and rebuttals.I ask the witnesses for the promoter to take th...
The Convener: Con Committee
28 Sep 2005
Proposed Alternative Alignments
Those witnesses will be invited to provide further written and oral evidence to the committee. The next deadline for the provision of witness statements is 12 October. Thereafter, rebuttals should be provided by 26 October. Oral evidence on those objections that are identical ...
The Convener: Con Committee
16 Nov 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
We have received correspondence on behalf of all the objectors that confirms that it is their strong preference that the amended route be approved by the committee. They also state that they do not intend to provide oral evidence to the committee on their objections, if the co...
Bill Aitken: Con Committee
15 May 2002
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I hear what the witness says and I acknowledge the sincerity of her view. I will put the converse view and ask for comment. Let us take the case of rape. Two women are raped. One has been profoundly affected and the other has been badly affected. One is particularly articulate...
The Convener: Con Committee
09 Jun 2009
Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
This is an important aspect of the bill but, as there are no further questions on it, we will move on to deal with witness statements.
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
07 Nov 2001
Chhokar Inquiries
This is a debate of vital importance but, at the same time, it is a debate for which all of us might wish there was no need. A young man has been brutally murdered. His family have been left in grief and with a feeling of deep disillusionment with the Scottish justice system. ...
The Convener (Bill Aitken): Con Committee
24 Nov 2004
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Preliminary Stage
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I am sorry for the slight delay. Not all the members of the public who wish to attend the meeting can get into the lift at one time, so there may be slight disruption as more members of the public arrive.The only item on the agenda is the ta...
Bill Aitken: Con Committee
03 Oct 2001
Sexual Offences (Procedure and Evidence) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We all know that what comes out in court is sometimes contrary to statements that have been made earlier. The system could be tightened up—although I accept that it would not be fail-safe—so that it would be a simple matter to decide on the basis of statements whether certain ...
Bill Aitken: Con Chamber
24 Nov 1999
Social Justice
In one of the press releases, the minister states that she found the preparation of the documents "intellectually challenging." The documents are hardly intellectually challenging— they are as challenging as a premature letter to Santa Claus, which is what, in effect, they are...
The Convener: Con Committee
17 Nov 2004
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Preliminary Stage
A witness has suggested in written evidence that the environmental statement did not fully address integrated transport issues. Just before the meeting was suspended, you heard BAA express similar concerns. Do you have any comments on that? Can you allay those worries?
The Convener: Con Committee
04 May 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
Group 6—Norwich Union Linked Life Assurance Ltd—has raised the issue of consultation on the preferred route. As members will recall, we considered the adequacy of the consultation at the preliminary stage. I am therefore concerned that by taking oral evidence on the consultati...
The Convener: Con Committee
04 May 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
Those witnesses will now be invited to provide oral evidence to the committee.The committee is also asked to discuss the draft oral evidence taking timetable which is set out in today's papers and which proposes that we meet in June and September to take oral evidence on the o...
The Convener: Con Committee
18 May 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
I have similar concerns about another group and I make it clear that exactly the same message applies to it. I want to record in the Official Report that I have concerns about group 55 and the proposal by A Hamilton and J Sansom to provide evidence on the European convention o...
The Convener: Con Committee
18 May 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
I turn to group 52. The lead objector for that group is Miss H T Reynolds. Again, the committee covered consultation or initial provision of information in its preliminary stage report and therefore the issue should not be raised in a witness statement or in oral evidence. Do ...
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Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee, 21 Sep 2005

21 Sep 2005 · S2 · Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee
Item of business
Late Witness Statements
Good morning. I welcome the press and public to the 11th meeting this year of the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee. I begin with my customary request that everyone present switch off their mobile phones and pagers.The first agenda item is to consider correspondence from Davidson Chalmers LLP, the solicitor acting on behalf of Mrs Dalwinder Kaur, an objector to the bill. They have sent the committee two letters, which are dated 22 August and 9 September and which in essence request that Mrs Kaur be allowed to submit late witness statements to the committee, having failed to meet the deadline that was set. The letters set out the reason for Mrs Kaur's witness statements being submitted late. Basically, her legal representatives say that they were given assurances by the promoter that the objection was being taken into account and that they would receive a reply before the consideration stage. The full background, including a letter that Mrs Kaur received from the promoter, is also provided. Apart from her original objection, Mrs Kaur has not provided any written evidence to the committee, despite being sent by the clerk letters that outline the process during consideration stage; indeed, three letters were sent. Consequently, the committee decided that she would not be able to provide witness statements or oral evidence. That is the same decision that we took in respect of a number of other objectors who had not corresponded with the committee. The committee is still scheduled to take evidence on the objections that were submitted by Mrs Kaur from witnesses for the promoter. The committee will, on the basis of all the evidence, come to a decision on that objection, as it will for every outstanding objection at consideration stage. Given the correspondence that is before us, I invite members to discuss whether we should accept the late witness statements that have been provided. If we do that, the committee will seek further written information from the objector and the promoter. If it becomes apparent that it will be necessary to take further oral evidence, that will have to be scheduled into our existing timetable. I remind members that we are not considering the merit of the objection, but simply whether there is a compelling reason for witness statements to have been provided late. I point out to members that precedent in matters such as this is that we have not considered such objections. Should we do likewise in this case?Members indicated agreement.

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