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Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
23 Feb 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Preliminary Stage
On behalf of the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee, I am pleased to speak to the motion. Before I discuss the committee's report on the preliminary stage of the bill, it might be helpful to provide members with a brief background to the bill and our work.The bill was in...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
17 Jan 2001
Mortgage Rights (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I also congratulate Cathie Craigie on the progress of the bill to date and on the way in which she has progressed the debate. She has a fairly consensual attitude to life, which has benefited the bill's progress. Conservative members welcome the bill, but we may seek to amend ...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con) Con Chamber
15 Dec 2010
Damages (Scotland) Bill:Stage 1
As Mr Butler said, the bill has its genesis in a Scottish Law Commission report dated 2008. In turn, Bill Butler picked up the issue and brought it before the Parliament, seeking to legislate by means of a member’s bill. The Justice Committee met on 10 separate occasions to co...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
12 Feb 2009
Sexual Offences (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The genesis of the bill was a decision that the then Minister for Justice, Cathy Jamieson, took in 2004 to remit to the Scottish Law Commission the duty of examining the law that relates to rape and other sexual offences. Her decision was predicated in part by the appeal court...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con) Con Chamber
28 Apr 2010
Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am pleased to present the Justice Committee’s stage 1 report on the bill. At the start, the committee took the view that this would be a relatively non-controversial matter and that the concerns of witnesses could be dealt with in relatively short order. I regret that that h...
The Convener: Con Committee
22 Sep 2004
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Preliminary Stage (Objections)
That is fine.Members were issued in June with copies of the fairly formidable pile of admissible objections, and last week with copies of three late objections, which the committee accepted. I know that members will have used the intervening time to review all the objections i...
The Convener: Con Committee
28 Nov 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
On that basis, I can confirm that the committee will support the lodging of those amendments. Consequently, I understand that the objections in the name of British Transport Police and BRB (Residuary) Limited will be formally withdrawn.We now turn to agenda item 2. The committ...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
14 Mar 2001
Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Fiona Hyslop was quite correct when she said that this is arguably the most important piece of legislation to come before the Parliament to date. It would certainly be churlish of me were I not to join her in paying tribute to the members of various committees who have contrib...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
05 Dec 2002
Criminal Justice Bill
As the minister rather humorously—and not without a touch of irony—conceded yesterday, the Conservatives will always back proposals that ensure that the voice of the victim is heard above that of the criminal. As such, we will certainly support today's motion on the Criminal J...
The Convener (Bill Aitken): Con Committee
14 Jun 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line One) Bill and Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I welcome the press and public to the first joint meeting this year of the Edinburgh Tram (Line One) Bill Committee and the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee. I have apologies from Jamie Stone, who—sadly—cannot be with us as he is att...
Bill Aitken: Con Committee
05 Nov 2002
Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
As I peer through the Stygian gloom of this room, I see a large number of amendments on an issue of serious principle.As we know, part 2 introduces the community right to buy. In effect, it gives the community a right of first refusal when land comes up for sale. Part 3 introd...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
13 Mar 2003
Dog Fouling (Scotland) Bill
Not a great deal more requires to be said on this matter. It has been well handled from the bill's inception. It will be a worthwhile piece of legislation, carefully conceived by Keith Harding and well handled by the Local Government Committee, with constructive input from the...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
18 Mar 2009
Offences<br />(Aggravation by Prejudice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I rise to submit the Justice Committee's report on the Offences (Aggravation by Prejudice) (Scotland) Bill. After following sundry parliamentary procedures, the committee called for evidence and received written submissions from 25 individuals and organisations. Those submissi...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
26 Nov 2009
Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It is with pleasure, compounded with relief, that I present the Justice Committee's stage 1 report on the Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Bill. The relief is caused by the fact that a long, complex and convoluted experience is now at an end. My pleasure is formed fro...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
08 Mar 2001
International Development Bill
The Conservative party, here and at Westminster, broadly welcomes the International Development Bill in so far as we do not oppose the general thrust of its contents, but despite our general acquiescence and agreement we feel that it is necessary to raise one or two points as ...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
03 May 2006
Scottish Commissioner for Human Rights Bill: Stage 1
The proposed Scottish commissioner for human rights is not the most burning issue that the Parliament has discussed or is likely to discuss, but the debate has been interesting nonetheless. Unless I am very much mistaken, there will be a democratic deficit in this afternoon's ...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
14 May 2008
Judiciary and Courts (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The bill started out in a somewhat different form under the previous Executive. Following a call for evidence that resulted in 15 written submissions, the committee process included three evidence sessions. The witnesses were senior members of the judiciary, including the Lord...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con) Con Chamber
06 Oct 2010
Legal Services (Scotland) (Bill)
As the member who was somewhat optimistic about how the debate would proceed, it is with some inhibition that I rise to speak.Matters were made particularly difficult because the legal profession was—for the best of all possible reasons—deeply divided, and we were not able, un...
Bill Aitken Con Chamber
06 Oct 2010
Legal Services (Scotland) (Bill)
This small debate ends a long and convoluted process, but there have been a number of worthwhile comments, some of which I will refer to. Nigel Don stressed the importance of regulation and the very real duties that will fall on the Law Society, the Institute of Chartered Acco...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con) Con Chamber
03 Mar 2011
Damages (Scotland) Bill
When someone is killed or dies as a result of an industrial accident or illness or in the short and fairly traumatic circumstances of a road traffic accident, and where there is negligence and liability, the settlement should be achieved firmly, fairly and expeditiously.Bill B...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Committee
05 May 2004
Antisocial Behaviour etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The purpose of amendments 1 to 7 is, quite simply, to remove part 3 of the bill in its entirety. I remind members that part 3 would provide the police with the authority to designate an area in which antisocial behaviour has been a problem and in which groups have caused alarm...
The Convener (Bill Aitken): Con Committee
29 Sep 2004
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Preliminary Stage
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to this meeting of the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee. There is full attendance; we have received no apologies.Agenda item 1 is on the committee's approach to consideration of the general principles of the Edinburgh Tra...
The Convener (Bill Aitken): Con Committee
21 Dec 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the 19th meeting this year of the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee. Please switch off your mobile phones and pagers.We have received apologies from Kate Maclean, who cannot attend the meeting because of a bereavement. ...
Bill Aitken: Con Committee
13 Feb 2007
Custodial Sentences and Weapons (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
We are having this debate because there is widespread public and parliamentary dissatisfaction with the existing system. The system has descended into farce as a result of the operation of the ECHR, which means, in effect, that a six-year sentence means four years and that a f...
The Convener: Con Committee
25 Mar 2008
Statute Law (Repeals) Bill
Agenda item 5 is the Statute Law (Repeals) Bill, which is UK Parliament legislation. I refer members to legislative consent memorandum LCM(S3)11.1, which has been lodged by the Cabinet Secretary for Justice, Kenny MacAskill.When the UK Parliament considers a bill that makes pr...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
21 Nov 2001
Sexual Offences (Procedure and Evidence) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
In due course, the Conservatives might take issue with certain aspects of the bill, but we would be the first to concede that there are real difficulties in striking the appropriate balance between protecting the complainer and likely victim of crime on the one hand, and the r...
Bill Aitken: Con Chamber
20 Mar 2002
Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am sorry, my time is restricted.Part 3 of the bill, which is on the crofting community right to buy, must rank as one of the most regressive pieces of legislation to be considered by any western democracy in the past 50 years. The confiscation of property is philosophically ...
Bill Aitken: Con Chamber
05 Feb 2004
Gender Recognition Bill
I do not have enough time, as I have only four minutes.If the issue is being dealt with by Westminster, it should not be for the Executive to endorse the bill in the manner in which it does in the motion in the name of Cathy Jamieson. The amendment in my name, which I had hope...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
04 Mar 2004
Vulnerable Witnesses (Scotland) Bill
The debate has been consensual and useful; many valuable contributions have been made. As Annabel Goldie said, I suspect that the bill will pass unanimously. Indeed, it would be quite proper for it to do so.For most of us, the idea of appearing in court as a witness is a nuisa...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
17 Jun 2004
Antisocial Behaviour etc (Scotland) Bill
The minister was correct to highlight the range of measures that are included in the bill. It is appropriate to say that only some of them were the subject of any controversy, and certainly dispersal and regulation were two of those. It is a pity that we did not have more time...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
18 Jan 2006
Standing Orders (Changes)
It may not be, as Alasdair Morgan implied, that a Westminster equivalent of Torquemada worked out the system for dealing with private bills that is set out in the Scotland Act 1998, but from time to time it has felt like that.It is important to stress a number of things in thi...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
14 Dec 2006
Legal Profession and Legal Aid (Scotland) Bill
The fact that the bill is a completely different animal from what appeared at stage 1 is a good advertisement for the parliamentary process. I pay tribute to the Justice 2 Committee, under the able convenership of David Davidson, and to the Executive, which listened and acted....
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
03 Jun 2009
Offences (Aggravation by Prejudice) (Scotland) Bill
I, too, begin by congratulating the sponsor of the bill, Patrick Harvie, for bringing things to a successful conclusion in the chamber today. He lobbied unmercifully—indeed, he was becoming a nuisance—but, at the end of the day, he has got the bill through. I congratulate him ...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
10 Jun 2009
Sexual Offences (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
At this stage, the Conservatives have some reservations about amendment 1. However, perhaps for the first time in her life, Margaret Curran has the opportunity to persuade me. We will listen carefully to what she says when she winds up on the amendment. Part 2 of the bill deal...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Committee
13 May 2004
Antisocial Behaviour etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The purpose of amendments 21 to 33 is to remove part 7 of the bill. The provisions in part 7 will give local authorities the power to serve notice on a private landlord instructing them to take whatever action is specified to tackle antisocial behaviour in or around their prop...
The Convener: Con Committee
16 Mar 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Consideration Stage
The second item on the agenda, which relates to suggested groupings of objections, will take up the bulk of this morning's meeting.As members are acutely aware, the committee must consider 77 outstanding objections to the bill at phase 1 of the consideration stage. As some of ...
Bill Aitken: Con Committee
20 Nov 2002
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
This group of amendments relates to section 14 of the bill, which deals with victim statements. I think that it is fair to say that, when the committee first considered victim statements, we found that the issue was a vexed one. On the face of it, the idea seemed good, but the...
Bill Aitken: Con Chamber
27 Apr 2000
Ethical Standards in Public Life etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I agree totally with Mr Harper's submission and underline the fact that, if the result of the Ayr by-election were to be repeated throughout Scotland at the forthcoming general election, I would be a lot happier than him.Let us return to the issue and consider the legislation ...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
20 Jun 2001
Mortgage Rights (Scotland) Bill
I add my congratulations and those of the Conservative party to Cathie Craigie on the forthcoming successful passage of the Mortgage Rights (Scotland) Bill, because it is a good piece of legislation. Any piece of legislation that impacts on homelessness and on people losing th...
Bill Aitken: Con Chamber
23 Jan 2003
Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
It goes without saying that we are now reaching the nub of the argument on the bill. Members will have gathered that the intention behind the group 30 amendments is to remove part 3 of the bill. In technical terms, this may look somewhat complex, but it was the only way in whi...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
23 Jan 2003
Land Reform (Scotland) Bill
It is manifestly obvious from what has been said already that the Conservatives are firmly of the view that the bill should not be passed. The aims of part 1 are worthy but frequently impracticable. They are also largely unnecessary and are a classic manifestation of the Execu...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
20 Feb 2003
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill
The minister mentioned some aspects of the bill that are highly satisfactory and for which we commend the Executive. Other aspects, such as civilianisation and victim statements, have proved problematic. We acknowledge that ministers have made a genuine and sincere effort to s...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
30 Sep 2004
Emergency Workers (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have not previously been involved in this matter but, as I have listened to the debate unfold, I have become more and more alarmed. That is a commentary on the bill rather than on members' speeches, which I thought were sound and made well-argued points.Let us start from the...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
29 Jun 2005
Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
This interesting debate has been a clear indication of how the housing debate in Scotland has advanced over the past 30 years. When I entered politics, I recall that Scotland had an owner-occupation level of 38 per cent, which was the lowest in Europe with the exception of the...
Bill Aitken: Con Chamber
01 Feb 2007
Rights of Relatives to Damages (Mesothelioma) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am not certain that that is the case. It may be an arguable point, but my clear understanding and professional recollection are that the dangers became apparent in the 1970s.The point about the claims is that they are immediately apparent and can be identified. The proximate...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
21 Mar 2007
Rights of Relatives to Damages (Mesothelioma) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I declare a technical interest, in that I am the beneficiary of an insurance company pension. I am sure that this is the first time that anyone in the Parliament has declared an interest on an issue that is more likely to cost them money rather than ensure that they gain money...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
27 Feb 2008
Glasgow Commonwealth Games Bill: Stage 1
This is the first parliamentary manifestation of the tremendous result that Glasgow and Scotland got in obtaining the Commonwealth games. Now, we need to build on the success of that tremendous achievement. There is a unanimous view in the chamber that anything that can be don...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
25 Sep 2008
Judiciary and Courts (Scotland) Bill
As has been said, the bill had its genesis under the previous Administration, with the work continued by the present Government. It has been a rare co-operative venture. Let us hope that that augurs well for when more controversial matters come before the Parliament. The bill ...
The Convener Con Committee
28 Sep 2010
Damages (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The principal business of the morning is the Damages (Scotland) Bill. This is the fourth and final evidence session on the bill, which was introduced by Bill Butler MSP. Mr Butler is not permitted to participate in his capacity as a member of the Justice Committee in the commi...
The Convener Con Committee
01 Feb 2011
Damages (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
We turn to item 3, which is the Damages (Scotland) Bill. Today is the only planned day of stage 2 proceedings of the bill, and there are 17 amendments in six groups.I welcome Bill Butler MSP, who has moved from his usual position as the deputy convener and my right-hand man to...
The Convener (Bill Aitken): Con Committee
23 Sep 2004
Edinburgh Tram (Line One) Bill and Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Preliminary Stage
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to this joint meeting of the Edinburgh Tram (Line One) Bill Committee and the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee. We have received apologies from Jackie Baillie and Dr Sylvia Jackson, both of whom had previous engagements tha...
The Convener: Con Committee
22 Sep 2004
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Preliminary Stage (Objections)
On that basis, are members agreed that objections to the bill's specified provisions are based on objectors' reasonable claims that their interests would be clearly adversely affected, and that the objections should proceed to consideration stage, when they will be given subst...
The Convener: Con Committee
29 Sep 2004
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Preliminary Stage
We will proceed along the lines that I suggested.Agenda item 2 is on accompanying documents to the bill—I refer to paper ED2/S2/04/5/2. Members have received a copy of the written evidence that has been gathered on the adequacy of the accompanying documents and on the scope of...
The Convener (Bill Aitken): Con Committee
23 Feb 2005
Late Objection
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. I welcome everyone to this meeting of the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee and remind members to switch off their mobile phones and pagers.The only item for consideration is a paper on a late objection to specified provisions of th...
The Convener (Bill Aitken): Con Committee
23 Nov 2005
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill (Preliminary Stage Report)
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to this meeting of the committee. I ask everyone present to switch off their mobile phones and pagers. Under item 1, the committee will take evidence on issues arising from its preliminary stage report and responses provided by th...
Bill Aitken: Con Committee
04 Sep 2002
Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The committee's consideration of the bill has been bedevilled by the fact that there is little in the way of case law and by the fact that there is a lack of legal definitions of certain terms. It is fair to say that those who drafted the bill have not had an easy task. Amendm...
Bill Aitken: Con Committee
24 Sep 2002
Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 139 highlights a basic difference between me and other committee members about whether the code is likely to be effective in deterring activities that could be damaging in the countryside. The unqualified right to fly kites or mechanised toy planes could clearly have...
The Convener: Con Committee
26 Jun 2007
Serious Crime Bill
We move to agenda item 3, on the Serious Crime Bill, which is United Kingdom legislation. The clerks have issued an extensive paper, but we do not need to spend a great deal of time on the matter today.For the benefit of new members, I note that such Sewel memoranda are not un...
The Convener: Con Committee
04 Nov 2008
Sexual Offences (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Our main business this morning involves the taking of evidence on the Sexual Offences (Scotland) Bill. Early in our consideration of the bill, we identified certain themes that we were particularly keen to explore. In today's evidence-taking session, which is our second on the...
Bill Aitken (Glasgow) (Con): Con Chamber
30 Sep 1999
Public Finance and Accountability (Scotland) Bill
Although today's debate has been highly technical, it is important because we are discussing the proper scrutiny of the expenditure of £14 billion. Many of this afternoon's speeches have left me having mainly to say that we are ad idem with regard to the proposals. Jack McConn...
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Chamber

Plenary, 23 Feb 2005

23 Feb 2005 · S2 · Plenary
Item of business
Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill: Preliminary Stage
On behalf of the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee, I am pleased to speak to the motion. Before I discuss the committee's report on the preliminary stage of the bill, it might be helpful to provide members with a brief background to the bill and our work.

The bill was introduced on 29 January 2004 and is promoted by the City of Edinburgh Council. The bill's principal objective is to secure authorisation from the Parliament for the promoter to construct and operate a tramline in Edinburgh. The proposed route starts at St Andrew Square, travels west along Princes Street, goes past Haymarket station to South Gyle, then goes north to Gogar roundabout and then north-west to the airport, with a shuttle service to Newbridge from Ingliston park and ride.

The bill would give the promoter power to acquire the land that it needs to build and run the tramline. It would also authorise a number of consents—such as planning permission and listed building consent—as well as avoiding claims in nuisance for both the construction and operation of the tramline.

The bill also provides the promoter with the power to purchase land compulsorily—which, as members can imagine, has generated a great deal of concern among those who would be directly affected by such a power. I will say more about such objections in due course.

Given the often highly technical nature of the bill, the committee has had to plough through a veritable forest of paperwork. I must therefore thank our advisers—Bond Pearce Ltd, Casella Stanger and Ove Arup & Partners Scotland Ltd—for the effort that they have put in to help the committee untangle some extremely complex issues.

I must also thank the promoter and the objectors for their hard work and input, and my fellow committee members for their diligence thus far. It has been said before in the chamber that the existing system for dealing with bills of this type is not satisfactory. It speaks volumes for the commitment of members that they have given so much time and effort to their complex task.

I would also thank Graeme Elliot from clerking, but sadly he cannot be with us tonight as he is on a secondment to Australia. As I look outside, I am very envious indeed.

In producing the report that we are discussing this afternoon, our committee had three main functions. First, we had to consider the bill's general principles. Secondly, we had to consider whether the bill should proceed as a private bill and whether the general principles should be agreed. That meant deciding whether the bill's purpose was to obtain for the promoter particular powers or benefits in excess of, or in conflict with, the general law, and deciding whether the accompanying documents were satisfactory and allowed for proper scrutiny of the bill. Thirdly, we gave preliminary consideration to the objections that we received.

I will deal with each of these functions in turn, but I want to make it absolutely clear from the outset that the committee is agreed that this bill should proceed as a private bill. I can therefore devote more time to highlighting the substantial issues in our report, rather than going into the technical minutiae.

We gave preliminary consideration to the 85 admissible objections lodged to the bill, then determined whether objectors had demonstrated that they would clearly be adversely affected by the bill. We agreed that all objections relating to specified provisions should go forward for detailed consideration at the consideration stage. However, we agreed that none of the objections—or parts of objections—to the whole bill was based on a reasonable claim that the objectors' interests would clearly be adversely affected by the bill. Therefore, they were all rejected.

We then considered whether the bill should proceed as a private bill. The committee was content with the technical explanations given by the promoter as to why a private bill was necessary for this project.

The committee then had to decide whether the accompanying documents were adequate. Again, the short answer is that the committee was content with the documents. However, I should mention briefly that some particular issues arose to do with the environmental statement. The committee has highlighted those issues to the promoter and other relevant bodies.

Our third consideration was the general principles of the bill. The committee took a broad look at the policy behind the bill and its objectives. In doing so, we felt it necessary to consider the levels of public expenditure involved in the proposed route.

To help members' understanding, the promoter's view is that there are many benefits to be gained from constructing this route. The promoter feels that it will contribute to a maximisation of economic growth by relieving congestion, providing connectivity within and beyond the city, reducing pollution and increasing social inclusion.

The promoter believes that the tram should be seen not as the solution to Edinburgh's transport problems, but as part of a wider strategy of transport improvements, including those in rail, bus and guided bus services and park-and-ride facilities.

As members can imagine, the committee has placed a great deal of importance on evaluating thoroughly the promoter's substantial claims. If the bill proceeds, examination at the consideration stage will be far more forensic and we will take detailed evidence from those people who have objected to the detail of the bill.

To help shape our deliberations, we took evidence from the National Audit Office on its extremely helpful and relevant report, "Improving public transport in England through light rail", which assesses a number of light rail projects. Crucially, it includes consideration of the extent to which the benefits that scheme promoters had identified were delivered.

Generally speaking, the study found that existing tram projects have been able to offer a fast, frequent and reliable service, that they have scored highly in passenger surveys and that they have provided greater passenger comfort and safety. In addition, all systems are viewed as having enhanced the image of their cities and towns. The committee can identify no reason why trams in Edinburgh could not bring the same benefits.

However, the NAO placed some question marks over the ability of schemes to deliver a number of other benefits. In heeding the NAO's conclusions, the committee agreed to focus its oral evidence taking on four broad headings: economic development and regeneration; congestion; social inclusion; and the environment. I may leave the detail of our discussions on those broad headings to my colleagues. Suffice it to say that although we fully acknowledge the potential pitfalls that the NAO flagged up, we are satisfied with the promoter's arguments that benefits will materialise.

I want to highlight two areas on which the committee had serious reservations, both of which relate to the economic case that the promoter provided. The first of those relates to the impact on the tramline of the proposed Edinburgh airport rail link, which is known as EARL. To put our concerns simply, we were worried that the patronage of the proposed tramline was to some extent dependent on customers not being taken by EARL. We were concerned to note that the promoter's own documentation says that

"the impact of heavy rail on tram can be large".

For the tram to be viable, passengers must be encouraged to use, and to continue to use, the tram. To entice people out of their cars, there must be proper co-ordination between different public transport modes and good through-ticketing and park-and-ride facilities. The promoter appears to have given that due consideration. However, although the promoter has stressed that EARL and tramline 2 will serve substantially different markets and overall purposes, we remain sceptical about the assertion that heavy rail will not have a significant impact on tram patronage. Therefore, we cannot give an unqualified endorsement of the promoter's case at the preliminary stage. We feel that there are scenarios in which EARL could undermine the case for line 2 to such an extent that it would no longer be a viable proposition. The committee has asked for clarification on the impact of EARL as regards competition for passengers and has received assurances from the promoter that that will be provided.

Our second main concern is about the robustness of the preliminary financial case. To put the matter in context, the Executive has given a commitment to provide £375 million towards the cost of the Edinburgh tram network to secure, at least, the completion of the north Edinburgh loop. Provided that it receives a robust business case, the Executive will come up with the money, but the Minister for Transport has been adamant that no funding beyond the £375 million will be available.

The promoter has indicated that line 2 will receive £165 million of capital. Given that the cost of the entire line is £266.5 million, we are naturally keen to establish where the missing £100 million is to be found. Moreover, we asked the promoter whether the stretch of the line from the airport to Newbridge could be jeopardised if sufficient funding were not in place. Our fears have been partially allayed by the promoter's assurance that it is committed to completing the full line. It has also made a commitment to provide us with an update on the progress that it makes in securing additional funding through other sources.

To conclude, I have made it clear that the committee is content that the criteria for the bill to proceed as a private bill have been met. I have outlined some of the concerns that the committee still has, which we will examine in more detail at consideration stage, if the Parliament agrees to the motion today. During that stage, we will take detailed evidence from objectors on their concerns and from the promoter on whether and how those concerns can be addressed and, I hope, allayed.

I move,

That the Parliament agrees to the general principles of the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill and that the Bill should proceed as a Private Bill.

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Marilyn Livingstone (Kirkcaldy) (Lab): Lab
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Margaret Smith (Edinburgh West) (LD): LD
I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate. The provision of public transport options is one of the most important issues for my constituency of Edinbu...
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Con
You have one minute remaining.
Margaret Smith: LD
The biggest problem that has been encountered by similar tram projects has been that of patronage, and that brings us to the relationship between EARL and tr...
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Con
I hope that the trams travel as quickly as the member just spoke.
Mark Ballard (Lothians) (Green): Green
I welcome the growing recognition that trams can move large numbers of people quickly and reliably with minimal congestion and minimal impact on local air po...
Susan Deacon (Edinburgh East and Musselburgh) (Lab): Lab
I strongly support the general principles of the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill and I am pleased that the committee has also reached that decision. I applaud...
Sarah Boyack (Edinburgh Central) (Lab): Lab
I am glad that we have reached the point that we are at. Like Susan Deacon, I have followed the debate from the sidelines. I am not a member of the Edinburgh...
Lord James Douglas-Hamilton: Con
If I may say so, a man of few words does not have to take many of them back. I have already made my position clear and rest my case.However, I mention a fina...
Mr Kenny MacAskill (Lothians) (SNP): SNP
I agree with other members that there are no difficulties with the bill's principles but, as with many things, the devil is in the detail, which will be cons...
Nicol Stephen: LD
The members of the Edinburgh Tram (Line Two) Bill Committee will have noted the many important points that have been made this afternoon. The committee has a...
Jeremy Purvis (Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale) (LD): LD
At the beginning of his opening speech, the minister said that this is an important day for the Parliament, as we are considering the preliminary stage repor...