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The Minister for Children and Education (Mr Sam Galbraith): Lab Chamber
16 Dec 1999
Hampden Park
With permission, Presiding Officer, I would like to make a statement. As members will be aware, Queen's Park Football Club and its subsidiary, the National Stadium plc, have run into serious financial problems carrying out major redevelopment works at the stadium. I am pleased...
The Minister for Children and Education (Mr Sam Galbraith): Lab Chamber
05 Apr 2000
Hampden
As members are aware, Queen's Park Football Club and its subsidiary, the National Stadium plc, ran into serious financial problems last year while carrying out major redevelopment work at Hampden stadium. I am delighted to report that a rescue package has now been agreed, whic...
Mr Galbraith: Lab Committee
06 Mar 2001
National Stadium Inquiry
The committee has taken a lot of evidence and knows most of the facts involved in the matter and I have provided you with a wind-up letter on the subject but I would like to make a short opening statement.I have made it clear in the numerous statements that I have made to the ...
Mr Galbraith: Lab Chamber
12 Jan 2000
Hampden
It is not quite true to say that Queen's Park has backed out of the deal. I understand that it still wants the deal—that is its decision. To protect its own interests, it went into temporary administration. Hampden will still be owned by Queen's Park, and the SFA will take it ...
The Minister for Children and Education (Mr Sam Galbraith): Lab Chamber
12 Jan 2000
Hampden
With permission, Presiding Officer, I would like to make a statement. On 16 December last year, I made a full statement to Parliament setting out the background to the financial problems surrounding the redevelopment of Hampden and details of the rescue package that had been n...
Mr Galbraith: Lab Committee
06 Mar 2001
National Stadium Inquiry
I do not know. That is for representatives of Queen's Park Football Club to tell you. I would not like to speculate. Our understanding was that McAlpine had allowed the club money to continue trading over the holiday period, that there were no problems and that the deal was ab...
Mr Galbraith: Lab Committee
06 Mar 2001
National Stadium Inquiry
Irene McGugan should remember that the stadium is owned by Queen's Park Football Club, which is a private company; that is the way that the Millennium Commission set it up. Short of legislation, we do not have any powers of enforcement in relation to private companies. However...
Mr Galbraith: Lab Committee
23 May 2000
Budget Process
I think that I am getting drawn into the committee's next discussion, which I should avoid, as I am here to discuss the budget. The money was given to National Stadium plc and Queen's Park, and the deal was that the Scottish Football Association would lease and run Hampden. I ...
Mr Galbraith: Lab Committee
06 Mar 2001
National Stadium Inquiry
I do not think so. We could have walked away. That option was open to us all the time. The first decision that we had to make when we were presented with the financial deficit was whether to walk away. Remember that the stadium was completed by that stage and was being used—th...
Mr Galbraith: Lab Committee
06 Mar 2001
National Stadium Inquiry
I will have to ask you too to make that judgment. We were acting in good faith. There were lots of telephone calls because we could not understand what the hold up was, but things still seemed to be okay. We felt that we had acted in good faith. Our view is that Queen's Park F...
Mr Galbraith: Lab Committee
06 Mar 2001
National Stadium Inquiry
Yes. It was a fairly minor improvement, relating to how much Queen's Park FC was going to get in terms of the leasing arrangement. It was not huge.
Mr Galbraith: Lab Committee
06 Mar 2001
National Stadium Inquiry
If large sums of money are being put into a project, the Scottish Executive will be careful to make a minor contribution in future. You can be sure that we will get the blame for any trouble.Whoever is the major funder must examine the management arrangements closely. The Scot...
Mr Galbraith: Lab Chamber
16 Dec 1999
Hampden Park
Ms Sturgeon obviously thinks that I am lying and she must be able to justify that. That is a serious accusation, Presiding Officer. I hope that she will see fit to withdraw it. I have been very circumspect and have not released any information. These have been extremely diffic...
Mr Galbraith: Lab Chamber
16 Dec 1999
Hampden Park
As I pointed out, the agreement with Queen's Park is that it is leasing the stadium to the SFA, which will pay the club an agreed amount under the lease arrangements. It will then be entirely up to the SFA to manage that. Who it will have on the board is still a matter for dis...
Mr Galbraith: Lab Chamber
12 Jan 2000
Hampden
If I had a hair on my head for every time I had heard the phrase, "Play it again, Sam," I would not be bald—and neither would Mr Monteith. Mr Monteith raised some specific points. The board of National Stadium plc authorised the additional work to be carried out by McAlpine. M...
Mr Galbraith: Lab Chamber
12 Jan 2000
Hampden
I am grateful to Ian Jenkins for his constructive and helpful comments. He expressed an opinion that is widespread in Scotland—that Hampden is important for the nation and that it is more than just a building, as it represents some other iconic relationships. However, there ar...
Mr Galbraith: Lab Chamber
12 Jan 2000
Hampden
The arrangement is not the responsibility of the Executive—it was set up under the previous Administration. I cannot remember Mr Canavan's views at that time, although it would be unlike him not to have had a view and pronounced on it. It is an unusual circumstance that an ama...
Mr Galbraith: Lab Chamber
12 Jan 2000
Hampden
I know that Tommy wants to nationalise the bank and the top 200 companies, but most people who put their hands up for that are in new Labour now, as Tommy will be one day, so that is okay. My job is to take what we have at the moment and ensure the future, not just of Queen's ...
Mr Galbraith: Lab Chamber
12 Jan 2000
Hampden
The stadium is owned by Queen's Park. Unless we steal it from the club, there can be no competitive tendering. Confiscation might be a new SNP policy—I realise that SNP members make it up as they go along. I thought that I had made this clear, but I will do so again. The reaso...
Mr Galbraith: Lab Chamber
05 Apr 2000
Hampden
I am grateful to the minister—Laughter. Just because Brian Monteith is bald like me, there is no need for me to think that he is the same person.I am grateful to Brian Monteith for his comments. As I am a doctor, one of my great problems is that I can never read my writing, bu...
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Chamber

Plenary, 16 Dec 1999

16 Dec 1999 · S1 · Plenary
Item of business
Hampden Park
Galbraith, Mr Sam Lab Strathkelvin and Bearsden Watch on SPTV
With permission, Presiding Officer, I would like to make a statement.

As members will be aware, Queen's Park Football Club and its subsidiary, the National Stadium plc, have run into serious financial problems carrying out major redevelopment works at the stadium. I am pleased to announce to Parliament that we are very close to reaching final agreement on a detailed rescue package that will secure not only the continuation of the project with all its aims and objectives intact, but the survival of Queen's Park, Scotland's oldest football club.

Although the problems are in no way attributable to the Scottish Executive, because of the importance of Hampden to the nation, the Scottish Executive has taken on a key role in finding the solution. The redevelopment of Hampden is a flagship millennium project—one of the largest to be funded by the Millennium Commission in Scotland. The Scottish Office was a minor funder of the project; its decision to contribute £2 million was taken in 1996 when the Conservative Administration was in power.

I announced on 14 October that broad agreement had been reached on a rescue deal but I emphasised that further detailed work and complex negotiations were required before the problems could be fully resolved. That has proved to be the case. The rescue deal is still subject to finalisation of some detailed points and completion and execution of legal documentation. I urge all the parties to permit no further delay in bringing matters to a full and final conclusion. I am very pleased, however, that a stage has been reached at which I can make a substantive statement to Parliament before the recess.

In my statement, I will give as full and frank an explanation of the background and outcome as I can. I shall do so within the constraints placed on me by contractual obligations to maintain confidentiality and by a proper regard for the legitimate commercial interests of the private companies involved.

Although the Scottish Executive and the other co-funders have played a key role in securing the deal, the co-operation of other parties, including

Queen's Park's principal creditors, has been essential. I wish to place on record the Scottish Executive's thanks for their contributions to the rescue deal and to achieving an outcome that the great majority of people in Scotland will welcome. I particularly wish to thank Sir William McAlpine for his understanding and forbearance as the negotiations over the rescue package have dragged on.

Hampden stadium and adjacent land is owned by Queen's Park FC. Through agreements with the Scottish Football Association, it has been Scotland's national football stadium for nearly a century. It was a condition of Millennium Commission funding that a subsidiary company, the National Stadium plc, was set up to manage the redevelopment project and operate the stadium.

On completion of the redevelopment, the facilities will comprise a stadium suitable for football and other purposes, office accommodation, a football museum, a lecture theatre, conference and catering facilities and an all-sports injury clinic.

The original estimated cost of the project was £51 million. The Millennium Commission was the major funder, with a grant of £23 million. The Scottish Office contributed £2 million over three years channelled through sportscotland's grant in aid. Other public funders were the Scottish Sports Council, which contributed £3.75 million of lottery money, the Glasgow Development Agency, which contributed £1.6 million for derelict land clearance, the Football Trust and the then Strathclyde Regional Council and Glasgow District Council.

A management contract between Queen's Park and the principal contractor, McAlpine, was entered into and the construction works began in February 1997. Work completed to date has cost some £60.6 million. The estimated final cost is £65.7 million if all the planned works are carried out. However, the work to be completed includes works that are not essential to enable the stadium to operate fully and works relating to the Scottish football museum for which responsibility lies with the SFA Museum Trust, not the project.

The debenture scheme was launched several months behind schedule in November 1998. That did not generate the income expected for the project, being only one third taken up before it was relaunched in advance of the recent Scotland versus England game.

The project managers were successful in attracting commercial sponsorship well in excess of their original target, but that was still not enough to cover the additional costs incurred.

The cost overruns on the project have three main causes: extra costs on agreed project items

as a result of increased specifications; additional works that were not part of the original project and were not agreed with co-funders; and acceleration costs to stage the Scottish cup final in May 1999.

When the Millennium Commission alerted the Scottish Executive to the present problems in late July, Queen's Park FC already owed to the principal contractor money that it was unable to pay. Having considered financial information supplied by the club and National Stadium plc, the co-funders concluded that they required an independent financial and technical assessment of the project before they could properly consider whether further financial involvement in the project was justified. The consultancy team comprised firms of quantity surveyors, accountants, management consultants and solicitors.

The purpose of the assessment was to enable the co-funders to understand how the problems had arisen, to establish or verify their full nature and extent and to identify possible solutions. In essence, we found that the project management had become product-driven rather than cost- driven. Insufficient attention had been devoted to securing the resources required to complete all the works.

On the basis of the consultants' interim findings, the co-funders agreed to move towards a work-out solution to the problems, within which they would contribute to a rescue package, subject to certain terms and conditions. The five main co-funders— the Millennium Commission, the Scottish Executive, Glasgow Development Agency, sportscotland and Glasgow City Council—were willing to contribute up to £4.4 million to the rescue package, subject to due diligence and the necessary approvals. The Scottish Executive is committed to contributing £2 million to the package.

The £4.4 million fell some way short of bridging Queen's Park FC's deficit on the capital component of the project. After proposals were put to Queen's Park FC and National Stadium plc, it was necessary for a complex process of negotiation to be undertaken with other parties that had a financial interest in the project, who might be able to contribute to the achievement of a rescue package. They included the two companies' creditors, in particular the main contractor, McAlpine, and the Royal Bank of Scotland.

Two main conditions were attached to the cofunders' further financial contribution: a new management structure for stadium operation and a viable long-term business plan for the stadium. The co-funders considered that major changes in the arrangements for governance and management of the stadium were necessary to secure viability in the longer term. They were conscious that the Scottish Football Association would be a major user of the stadium, since it would not only stage matches there but planned to rent office accommodation, space for the football museum and associated activities and make use of the lecture theatre and conference facilities and the sports injury clinic. The SFA's rental payment would have represented most of the guaranteed income for the stadium operation.

The fact of the matter is that Hampden is not the national football stadium without the involvement and co-operation of the SFA. It seemed to the cofunders to be both logical and appropriate that the SFA be asked to take on a direct role in the management of the stadium.

I will detail the key elements of the rescue package. McAlpine has accepted a settlement that involves a cash payment of £3.4 million and debentures which would cost £1.4 million to buy. The co-funders will meet the cash component and Queen's Park FC is giving the debentures from a stock that had not been offered for sale to the general public. We are in the final stages of concluding agreements with other parties to ensure that the funding gap on the construction phase of the project is bridged. I am sure members understand that these are very sensitive negotiations, but they represent the last part of the process.

The remaining £1 million of the co-funders' money will be paid to the Royal Bank of Scotland. That will reduce Queen's Park's indebtedness to the bank to a level that can be accommodated within the new management arrangements. The bank has agreed to convert its underwriting of the debenture scheme, which was due to expire in March 2000, to a term loan to Queen's Park. The bank is also co-operating in other ways that are essential to ensuring an orderly transition from the present arrangements to the new management set-up.

The SFA has agreed to take on responsibility for the future management of the stadium under a lease granted by Queen's Park. The lease will run for 20 years, with an option on the SFA's part to extend it for a further 20 years. The level of rent payments will enable Queen's Park to pay off outstanding debts and derive an income to help meet its running cost requirements. Queen's Park will continue to own the stadium and adjacent land.

There will be a reciprocal rights agreement between the SFA and Queen's Park, which will enable Queen's Park to continue to use the main stadium for matches and other purposes and the SFA to make use of Lesser Hampden for squad training and car parking when major matches are being staged in the main stadium.

The co-funders' consultants examined carefully the viability of the stadium operation in the longer term. The co-funders were satisfied, as a result of that work, that there was a viable business there, so long as it did not have to service an unduly high level of debt incurred on the construction phase of the project. The work persuaded the SFA, which carried out its own due diligence, to accept, in principle, responsibility for managing the stadium.

In taking on a full repairing lease, the SFA is, of course, accepting the operational risks and liabilities as well as the potential rewards. Responsibility for drawing up and implementing a business plan for the stadium now rests with the SFA. Despite the mistakes and misjudgments that have been made by the project—which are not attributable to any one person—we now have a magnificent national football stadium with excellent facilities on the south side of Glasgow.

Hampden is there: it is virtually complete and it is operational. It has just received the accolade of being allocated the final of the Champions League, in 2002. I am hopeful that the rescue deal will be concluded this week. If that is the case, it will maintain the historic relationship between the oldest club and Scottish football's national governing body. It will be a different relationship, but once things settle down, I hope it will be a better relationship. It will allow Queen's Park to continue to uphold the amateur principle within senior level football.

We now need to move forward. As we enter a new millennium, we want to see confidence in the project restored. We want everyone in Scotland to see that we have a national football stadium of which we can be rightly proud. I commend this statement to the Parliament.

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The Presiding Officer (Sir David Steel): NPA
We come now to the statement on Hampden Park. As this statement is rather longer than is usual, I will time the 20 minutes' question time from when the minis...
The Minister for Children and Education (Mr Sam Galbraith): Lab
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Nicola Sturgeon (Glasgow) (SNP): SNP
Does the minister think that it has been acceptable for the Executive to proceed in this matter by way of continual briefings to the press, while refusing—as...
Mr Galbraith: Lab
Even for the SNP, that was a super-girn. Ms Sturgeon must stop making wild accusations that are completely and utterly untrue. She has made a great fool of h...
Nicola Sturgeon: SNP
Rubbish.
Mr Galbraith: Lab
Ms Sturgeon obviously thinks that I am lying and she must be able to justify that. That is a serious accusation, Presiding Officer. I hope that she will see ...
Mr Brian Monteith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con): Con
Does the minister agree that the directors of Queen's Park Football Club have displayed only too well their adherence to the amateur principle in their appro...
Mr Galbraith: Lab
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Mr Monteith: Con
I am not the ideologue The Herald says I am.
Mr Galbraith: Lab
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Mike Watson (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab
I should declare an interest: I am a tenant of Queen's Park Football Club, as my constituency office is there. I welcome the statement and the fact that the ...
Mr Galbraith: Lab
As I pointed out, the agreement with Queen's Park is that it is leasing the stadium to the SFA, which will pay the club an agreed amount under the lease arra...
Fiona McLeod (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP
The minister has just stated that he was first aware of the problems when the Millennium Commission drew them to his attention in July, but that he was happy...
Mr Galbraith: Lab
I am not quite sure of the basis for that question, but I think that it is a nasty one. Have I been a guest? I can give a definite answer, because the record...
Mrs Mary Mulligan (Linlithgow) (Lab): Lab
Will the minister explain why he was not able to give a briefing to the Education, Culture and Sport Committee on this matter prior to his statement? Given t...
Mr Galbraith: Lab
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Donald Gorrie (Central Scotland) (LD): LD
The minister explained that the Government's monitoring has been adequate and correct, but the net result has not been adequate and correct. Does he plan to ...
Mr Galbraith: Lab
We will certainly want to review our monitoring arrangements to find out whether we could have detected signs of trouble. Our monitoring arrangements were ve...
Dennis Canavan (Falkirk West): *
Bearing in mind that many millions of pounds of public money, including lottery money, has gone into the Hampden project, will the minister ensure that the R...
Mr Galbraith: Lab
The basis of legal agreements is that no one holds anyone to ransom. One of the reasons for the financial problems at Hampden is that two thirds of the deben...
Mr Kenneth Macintosh (Eastwood) (Lab): Lab
I thank the minister for his statement. Although it is unfortunate that the stadium ran over budget, I welcome the fact that the Executive has recognised its...
Mr Galbraith: Lab
As the Executive was not established until July this year, when people became aware of the deficit, it had almost no part in monitoring the project; sportsco...
Ms Sandra White (Glasgow) (SNP): SNP
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The Presiding Officer: NPA
Please exercise that right.
Ms White: SNP
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Mr Galbraith: Lab
I am a delightful chap who always likes to give nice answers even when people rant at me. The lady keeps saying how much the SNP is in favour of the national...
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Mr Galbraith: Lab
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Tommy Sheridan (Glasgow) (SSP): SSP
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Mr Galbraith: Lab
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