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Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
06 Nov 2003
Sustainable Scotland
The Executive's partnership agreement states:"We want a Scotland that delivers sustainable development; that puts environmental concerns at the heart of public policy and secures environmental justice for all of Scotland's communities."That is a truly noble ambition, supported...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
07 Sep 2004
Scottish Executive's Programme
I associate myself with John Home Robertson's feelings about this magnificent building and I congratulate him on all the work that he and the team did. Does the legislative programme match up to our surroundings in terms of imagination and inspiration? Some of it does but, sad...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
06 Sep 2005
Scottish Executive's Programme
Not being an MSP for Glasgow I have not visited the Glasgow time-out centre, but it sounds as if it is working effectively or Dr Jackson would not have mentioned it. I would support more such centres because it is clear that young people need some kind of co-ordinated response...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
17 Dec 2002
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you. I am happy to answer questions on the financial memorandum, of which all members have a copy.Concern has been expressed that the target figure of 20 per cent that the bill will set is unrealistic and unattainable—utopian even. However, there has been much talk of ta...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
30 Mar 2000
Housing Energy Efficiency
As winter draws to a close, it is timely for us to debate a problem that will have cost the national health service millions of pounds over the past few months. During that time, it will also have cost lives.Let us be clear about the reality. Scotland has the worst housing con...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
24 Jan 2002
Environmentally Sustainable Employment and Recycling
This debate concerns the massive potential for employment in environmentally friendly economic activity in Scotland, which I conservatively estimate at 50,000 new jobs over the next 10 years. In Denmark, it is estimated that between 20,000 and 30,000 jobs have already been cre...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
08 Feb 2001
Renewable Energy
No. I will not accept interventions just now. Mr Home Robertson should address his points in his speech.I argue that, given the potential of our geography, the skills of our work force and the technological expertise of our inventors and researchers, we should be setting an as...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
28 Feb 2001
Sustainable Development
I commend Shetland. I remind the Executive that Dundee, which was one of the leading recyclers, has recently begun to slip back; I ascribe that to lack of support.Sam Galbraith mentioned biodiversity but, as a quick scan of the documents reveals, the Executive has made no spec...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
15 Jan 2003
Rail Industry
I must declare that my outside interests include membership of Capital Rail Action Group, the cross-party group in the Scottish Parliament on Borders rail and the Scottish Association for Public Transport.I want to draw the Parliament's attention to the Executive's response to...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
30 Mar 2000
Housing Energy Efficiency
Well, the Tories should make that their policy.The Executive's amendment is misleading. Although it has been consulting with councils on the effectiveness of the warm deal, it has still not revealed that survey's contents. I commissioned my own study last November, and Christi...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
20 Dec 2000
Transport (Scotland) Bill: <br />Stage 3
The roads lobby predicted a 50 per cent increase in road traffic by 2020. Not so long ago, the minister, with some asperity, said that it was not the policy of the Executive to predict and provide. That suggests that, at that time, the Executive intended to take its commitment...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
28 Feb 2001
Sustainable Development
One of the points that has come out in this debate, to which I would like to pay tribute, is the enormous amount of good work that has been done on LA21 in Scotland by organisations such as Lothian and Edinburgh Environmental Partnership in Edinburgh, Working for Environmental...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
09 Jan 2002
Scottish Executive's Priorities
I, too, would like to preface my speech by associating myself with the opening remarks of the First Minister. My party and I offer our sincere sympathy and condolences to Gordon and Sarah Brown.The First Minister's motion ends with the phrase:"and to promote sustainable develo...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
16 May 2002
National Waste Strategy
I would like a commitment from the Executive to have a much longer debate on waste management before Christmas. It is simply not satisfactory to have a debate lasting only one hour on a major paper that has been available for a day and a SEPA paper that we first saw at 2 o'clo...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
06 Feb 2003
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Mike Russell virtually took the words out of my mouth. He evinced the same concerns as I have and enunciated the way forward that the Executive could have accepted some time ago but has still not accepted. I hope that it does that before 5 o'clock.Through the approach that I d...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
19 Mar 2003
Charity Law Reform
I congratulate Jackie Baillie on initiating the debate and on the motion, which I signed. I agree with Tricia Marwick that four years is a long time for 50,000 organisations to wait for a definition of and help with their status in Scots law.I will give an example of the probl...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
25 Mar 2004
Zero Waste
First, I want to address a couple of points that the minister made. I am glad that the Executive is co-operating with business on waste management and that it is encouraging business activities in that area. However, the record so far is abysmal. Scottish Enterprise's ambition...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
22 Sep 2005
Asylum Seekers (Children)
It is entirely wonderful that the children in Drumchapel took the actions that they did. I am certain that, as Tommy Sheridan says, those actions have had the desired effect—at least, the beginnings of the desired effect.Clearly, as a result of UK policy, more and more familie...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
01 Jun 2006
Architecture
In response to Jamie McGrigor, I point out that the Scottish Parliament building cost less per square foot to build than the Welsh Assembly building—so he should tak tent.I have a great deal of sympathy with the interesting points that Michael Matheson made, particularly in re...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
01 Mar 2001
Fuel Poverty
The day before yesterday, I tried to lodge an amendment to this motion, but it was not accepted. On the face of it, it seemed very similar to an amendment to the Housing (Scotland) Bill that the Executive will be lodging. The basis of my amendment was to cut the amount of time...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
24 Jan 2002
Environmentally Sustainable Employment and Recycling
I express my heartfelt thanks to all members in all parties who have contributed to the debate. Much has been said that is encouraging and that I can take to heart.I will begin by addressing the Executive's response. I was disappointed that the Executive's amendment seeks to w...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
25 Apr 2002
Freshwater Fish and Fisheries
I concur that a number of the proposals in the consultation paper should be welcomed. I welcome the speeches from Richard Lochhead and Euan Robson for their references to the importance of river basin management. However, I question the Executive's commitment to making progres...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
08 May 2002
Sustainable Development
Since the Rio earth summit 10 years ago, those who are concerned about the quality of life on our planet have called for Scotland to play its full part in achieving sustainability. When the Executive came to power in 1999, it ignored a report by the advisory group on sustainab...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
15 Sep 2005
Teachers
The question that I must put to the Executive is one that I have put to it before. Does the Executive really think that we yet have an education system that is fit for purpose and that we yet have a common understanding of what that purpose could and should be? We hope to get ...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
26 Oct 2006
Young People and Families
One of the first debates that Parliament held after the 2003 election was on young people. It followed an election campaign that had been dominated by the subject of antisocial behaviour and was shortly before the introduction of Executive legislation to address that issue, so...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
29 Nov 2006
Child Poverty
I thank Jackie Baillie for lodging the motion and congratulate Trish Godman on ensuring that we do not avoid the appalling reality of the problem that we face and the corrosive effects of poverty on people.Tommy Sheridan has a point. In Norway, where there is a much flatter re...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
28 Jun 2007
Conservation (Natural Habitats, &c) Amendment (No 2) (Scotland) Regulations 2007 (SSI 2007/80)
I congratulate the Executive on the celerity with which it has addressed the situation, but I also pay tribute to the amount of work that my colleagues in the Green party have done on it over the past two years. Mark Ruskell first drew the Executive's attention to the problem ...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Committee
15 May 2001
Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will miss out a couple of pages of my notes in the interest of brevity.Amendment 338 should not be problematic. It is based on the Warm Homes and Energy Conservation Act 2000. When the Executive gave evidence to the committee in January, it signalled its willingness to amend...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
30 Sep 1999
Non-Executive Business: Education
As a former president of my local EIS association, former member of the national council and someone who has remained in contact with my local union branch over the past few months, I must declare my interest in this matter. What I have to say therefore carries more weight tha...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
27 Jan 2000
Further and Higher Education
I will come to that. Of course I recognise what Mr Rumbles has said. If he had not interrupted me, he would have heard my next sentence, which is that I am prepared to face the realities that are before us. I am, therefore, addressing the Executive's proposals from a realistic...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
20 Dec 2000
Transport (Scotland) Bill: <br />Stage 3
Amendment 73 is another modest proposal—this time on employer transport audits—which I hoped would gain the support of the Executive and the minister.The idea behind my amendment is to engage employers in the development of transport strategies and to allow the Executive to sp...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
08 Feb 2001
Renewable Energy
No, about nuclear power. However, that is a debate for another day and I thank John Home Robertson for his support for the other ideas that I put before the chamber. Apart from occasional moments of political sniping, we have had a high-class debate, which has left me with a s...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
15 Nov 2001
Scotland's Natural Heritage
I welcome the Executive's commitment to introduce legislation, but I would like the minister to define precisely what she means by "as soon as possible". There is widespread support for the implementation of the proposals outlined in the Executive's "The Nature of Scotland" pa...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
07 Nov 2002
Forestry
No, because I am making an important point. The absence of those members highlights the assumption that forestry is a rural development matter rather than an environmental one. Similarly, from the minister's speech we find that an issue that the Transport and the Environment C...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
01 Dec 2005
Schools
Yes, I might have to.Modern studies has so much to offer, yet only a third of Scottish secondary schools have separate modern studies departments. I think that every school in the country should have a separate modern studies department, because the subject addresses all the t...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
07 Sep 2006
Education
I accept what the minister says absolutely. I am not questioning the idea that we should be globally competitive; I am questioning our obsession with the idea that that is the only aspect of education that we should debate in this chamber. There are other, vital things that we...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
27 Sep 2006
Planning etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will go through committee members' comments first. We were very aware of the fact that trees die. I do not think that there is anything in our proposals to suggest that we should prolong the life of trees beyond their sell-by date. They do die, and dead trees are sometimes q...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
03 Dec 2002
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I would say that the bill will encourage the industry to be more competitive. The supply chain is currently very inefficient. The bill provides a framework to aid the removal of barriers through a targeted action plan, which it will obviously be up to the Executive to produce....
Robin Harper: Green Committee
09 May 2001
Petition
It is clear that the Executive has taken a decision. I am not sure whether there is anything we can do to change it. Perhaps we will have to act on the recommendation to set up an inquiry. I still feel that we should indicate that we are not happy with the decision and take so...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Committee
27 Nov 2002
Subordinate Legislation
In general, I welcome the EU directive but, as I have already indicated in a previous response to the minister and in an e-mail that I sent to the minister last night, I have concerns. I will condense them now.There are six areas where the meaning of the directive has been los...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
29 Jun 2000
Agriculture Strategy
I give my whole-hearted endorsement to everything that Cathy Jamieson said—it was brilliant.When the common agricultural policy was introduced, it had two main aims: to guarantee food security for Europe and to keep small farmers on the land. Since then, we have gone into over...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
17 Jan 2002
Europe's Energy Capital (Aberdeen)
I will talk briefly about three things: research, renewables and a long-term strategy for Aberdeen. We had good speeches about what services Aberdeen needs to become, and sustain a position as, an energy capital, but I want to talk about what should happen in Aberdeen in the i...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
31 Jan 2002
Young Runaways
I congratulate Kenny Gibson, as other members have done, on securing this evening's debate. I would like to pick up where Johann Lamont and Irene McGugan left off. It is quite clear that many social work departments in Scotland are stuck in negative loops: the more people they...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
14 Feb 2002
Water Industry (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
At stage 2, Jackie Baillie lodged an amendment that was identical to amendment 1, except that amendment 1 reduces the amount of the water charges that charities would have to pay from 30 to 20 per cent. That would make very little difference to the people paying, but a great d...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
29 Jan 2003
Water Environment and Water Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I congratulate the Executive on responding to an amendment that I lodged during stage 2 and I thank it for doing so. The water meadow of my expectations has been gently flooded by the sagacity and wisdom of the Executive.However, one stream runs slightly muddy. I would like th...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
06 Feb 2003
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
How can I disagree with that? My point is that, under the bill, successive Executives would be required over the next 10 years to come back to the Parliament with their yearly plans. What Ross Finnie proposes is a four-year plan—it could end in four years. What I propose is a ...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
12 Feb 2003
Theatre in Scotland
I must first declare my interests as a member of Equity, a patron of Forth Children's Theatre and Sounds of Progress and a member of the board of the Traverse Theatre. I also hope to join the board of the Communicado Theatre Company in the near future.The support of public ins...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
22 Jan 2004
Fisheries (December Council)
I am still totally perplexed by such insistence on the part of the fishing industry: that sounds more like a threat than a promise. ICES repeatedly warns of the dangers of overfishing haddock and my party would not like the Executive to go any further in negotiating further in...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
02 Dec 2004
Aquaculture
I will answer the question briefly. We are refraining from offering advice on the quantity of salmon that people should eat, for the simple reason that we do not believe that the FSA has given us the full scientific evidence for its assertions on that. We are dealing with a va...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
13 Apr 2005
Scotland's Needs and Aspirations
My goodness. I will be brief, in that case. I have paid tribute to R F MacKenzie—I would love to be able to do so further in a full debate on education—and I also want to pay tribute to the late John Smyth. Resting on the Executive's shelves are several of his reports on susta...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
25 May 2005
World Youth Congress
I congratulate Peace Child International on arranging this series of conferences, the third of which will take place here, and everyone who has facilitated the conference—including the Executive—on the encouragement that they are giving it. Like Sylvia Jackson, I cannot see ho...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
09 Mar 2006
Ship-to-ship Oil Transfer
We have a full public gallery. I welcome to Parliament all those from around the Forth who are concerned about the possibility of ship-to-ship transfer of heavy crude oil in the Firth of Forth. That enterprise would involve up to 8 million tonnes a year of the heaviest grade o...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Committee
27 Sep 2006
Planning etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Thank you and good morning. I declare an interest: I am a member of the Woodland Trust, if I am up to date with my subscriptions.The effect of the amendments in the group would be to place a very minor duty on the Executive to keep a register of Scotland's 100 identified herit...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Committee
05 Apr 2000
Standards in Scotland's Schools etc Bill: Stage 2
It is not strange that WWF, the RSPB and a number of other environmental organisations want to amend the section. Let me say something about the context. Outdoor education in Scotland has been on a downward trend recently. The Scottish Environmental Education Council is now de...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
26 Jun 2001
Sea Cage Fish Farming
I will pick up Fergus Ewing's comment. The petition was lodged in February 2000. In February 2001, both committees recommended a full-scale public inquiry. If the Executive had agreed to that recommendation, the inquiry could have reported before the end of the recess. The min...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Committee
23 Jan 2002
Water Industry (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I will address three points: the knock-on effect of the Executive's proposal as it stands; some of the points that Nora Radcliffe made on acceptability; and the relationship between the proposals set out in Jackie Baillie's amendment 96 and Richard Lochhead's amendment 83.I ha...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
13 Feb 2002
Subordinate Legislation
I am interested in the thinking behind the order and draw the attention of the committee to the Executive note. Paragraph 5 reads:"The Scottish Executive does not favour a second Forth Road crossing. It would be incompatible with an integrated transport policy; it would encour...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
06 Jun 2002
Petitions
One of the biggest postbags I have received in the past three years was from people registering their concern over the way that the planning system is working. Letter after letter was about councils allowing open space to be used for building and other developments.The Parliam...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
27 Nov 2002
Subordinate Legislation
I am in a slightly difficult position. An amendment of regret is a new idea. It appends to an Executive motion a series of concerns that one hopes it would address. A large section of the directive has been adopted, and the Executive has moved on some other areas where recomme...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
04 Nov 1999
Agriculture and Rural Affairs
There are threats and opportunities. I want to draw the Executive's attention to some developments in the crusade for organic farming in Britain, based, in part, on Austria's experience, where 30 per cent of farming has been converted to organic farming. In Wales, a report has...
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Plenary, 06 Nov 2003

06 Nov 2003 · S2 · Plenary
Item of business
Sustainable Scotland
The Executive's partnership agreement states:

"We want a Scotland that delivers sustainable development; that puts environmental concerns at the heart of public policy and secures environmental justice for all of Scotland's communities."

That is a truly noble ambition, supported by strong pillars, but what does the Executive offer us? A thread.

Members must not misunderstand me: that thread represents the Executive's commitment, and my Green colleagues and I are delighted that the partnership agreement contains even a little green thread. We are delighted that the other parties incorporated more green rhetoric than ever before into their political manifestos, but—and that is a big but—words are not enough. If one good policy is undermined by another policy, we are no further forward and, occasionally, we might even be worse off.

Again and again, the Executive claims that its fence-sitting on tough decisions is dictated by the restrictions of responsible government. Those claims are increasingly being exposed as shorthand for business as usual. That is not good enough. Part of the Greens' job in the Parliament is to act as a conscience, to hold up green commitments to the clear light of day and to demand serious action. Our job is to outline key areas where the reality on the ground varies so widely from the stated public policy that the little green thread is in knots.

The partnership agreement makes a commitment to reach a target of

"40% of Scottish electricity generation … from renewable sources by 2020".

That commitment is made to address climate change and to meet our commitments under the Kyoto treaty. However, the partnership agreement contains no target for traffic reduction and is saddled with commitments to build more roads, expand airports and encourage air travel, all of which cause climate change. That is a policy contradiction.

Although the Executive supports renewable energy, it has still not ruled out nuclear power stations or waste-to-energy incinerators. What sort of signal does that send to potential investors in renewables? Meanwhile, the first wave machines could come on stream in Portugal, because renewables receive many times more investment there than is available in Scotland. That is another policy contradiction.

On food and health, the Executive has made commitments to local markets, organics and healthy eating. However, our Government is still sitting on the fence in relation to genetically modified crops. Without a GM-free Scotland, the Executive's positive commitments could be undone. In the debate that will follow this one, we will hear that GM threatens the future of both organic and conventional farming. That is another policy contradiction.

On reducing waste, there is a vague commitment to create significant opportunities for new products that are manufactured from waste—but it is just a commitment. However, the 1 per cent target—only 1 per cent—for the reduction in the amount of waste that we produce seems to have been abandoned. That is another policy contradiction.

At the root of the Executive's contradictory approach to sustainability is an obsession with economic growth as a sort of miracle driver for societal well-being. However, to judge progress on gross domestic product alone is to live in a fool's paradise. Even Tony Blair acknowledges that. He has said:

"focusing solely on economic growth risks ignoring the impact—both good and bad—on people and on the environment … Now … there is a growing realisation that real progress cannot be measured by money alone … But in the past … We have failed to see how our economy, our environment and our society are all one."

The crisis in the fishing industry is a sad testament to the illusion of the benefits of economic growth at any cost.

Some five years ago, the Executive committed to strategic environmental assessment, which was hailed—and we do not demur—as the most important tool to inform decision making. However, the Executive is only now taking action, to meet the deadline for avoiding legal action by the European Union. The minister has said that he will introduce primary legislation on strategic environmental assessment, which is welcome, but there is still no guarantee that it will cover existing strategies and agencies such as the new transport authority. The Executive is like a dinosaur at work: bang it on the head with a good idea and the tail twitches five years later.

So, what should we do about the green thread? Will we get it to pull all these things together? We need a sea change—a fundamental shift in approach and policy away from the inadequate pursuit of growth at any cost towards the goal of sustainability. An independent commission of the Centre for Scottish Public Policy, which includes Sarah Boyack, agrees with that. It says in a robust and clear report that was published this week that neither the Executive nor the Parliament takes the challenge of sustainable development seriously enough and that failing to meet that challenge would be cheating on our children, cheating on ourselves and cheating on our neighbours.

We need a truly green vision—not just a thread, but an entire cloth in which green threads join with one another to form a coherent pattern, each policy is considered in the context of others and there is truly joined-up thinking. To help to achieve that, the status of the Executive's sustainable development unit within government must be improved. We must have a sustainable development strategy and the Parliament should have a sustainable development committee to monitor progress.

We promised our voters that we would be both constructive and challenging in our role as parliamentarians. We are delighted that the coalition parties and others have adopted some of our language but we now ask them to adopt more of our vision. We acknowledge the Executive's apparent commitment to the environment and sustainable development, as outlined in the partnership agreement, and we will track its progress on those issues.

If we have a collective future, we will achieve it only if we grasp the opportunity that is presented by the Executive's start and if sustainability leads economic development, not the other way around.

I move,

That the Parliament welcomes the Scottish Executive's intention of placing the environment and sustainable development at the heart of all of its policy making; notes, however, the policy contradictions, including those in A Partnership for a Better Scotland, which indicate that this goal is not likely to be achieved, and therefore calls on the Executive to integrate sustainable development within all of its policy making and organise government to achieve this end.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Mr George Reid): NPA
Good morning. The first item of business is a debate on motion S2M-559, in the name of Robin Harper, on sustainable Scotland, and three amendments to the mot...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green
The Executive's partnership agreement states:"We want a Scotland that delivers sustainable development; that puts environmental concerns at the heart of publ...
The Minister for Environment and Rural Development (Ross Finnie): LD
I am grateful to Robin Harper for acknowledging, at least, that the partnership agreement is full of noble ambition—indeed it is, and quite rightly so. The d...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green): Green
Will the minister explain exactly how trebling air traffic in Scotland is consistent with sustainable development?
Ross Finnie: LD
The Greens should stop saying that the clock should suddenly be turned back and economic development stopped and that they will fly nowhere, travel nowhere a...
Stewart Stevenson (Banff and Buchan) (SNP): SNP
Will the minister take an intervention?
Ross Finnie: LD
No—I am short of time.In short, the programme is the most ambitious programme for the environment and sustainable development that has ever been prepared by ...
Richard Lochhead (North East Scotland) (SNP): SNP
A signal that there is an opportunity for the Scottish Parliament to make a huge difference in achieving sustainable development is that our standing orders ...
Ross Finnie: LD
Does the member simply have a short memory or is he not interested in reading about what the First Minister does? The First Minister has made important state...
Richard Lochhead: SNP
The key for the Executive is to ensure that sustainable development is a priority. There have not been many ministerial statements or comments by the First M...
Sarah Boyack (Edinburgh Central) (Lab): Lab
Our colleague Robin Harper was gracious enough to amend his speech in the light of a correction that I gave in respect of the exact quotation from the docume...
Richard Lochhead: SNP
I will wait and see what the report says, but I gave a direct quote.The key point that the SNP wants to make is that many key drivers in achieving sustainabl...
Mr Ted Brocklebank (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con): Con
Conservatives have always supported a sustainable development policy that is aimed at empowering the individual and increasing choice, while reducing the pow...
Mr Jamie Stone (Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross) (LD): LD
The problem is that, because the fish are decreasing in numbers, the industry is not sustainable. Surely, the drive should be to find truly sustainable repla...
Mr Brocklebank: Con
I hope to come to that in a moment.At a time when countries such as Spain and Ireland are still taking advantage of European Union subsidies to build up thei...
George Lyon (Argyll and Bute) (LD): LD
Will the member give way?
Mr Brocklebank: Con
No, I will not at the moment. I have a lot to get through.No one denies that North sea cod stocks are in trouble. There are many reasons for that—probably in...
Robin Harper: Green
Will the member give way?
Mr Brocklebank: Con
No, I cannot. I have a lot to get through.Local management, with fishermen at the heart of the negotiations, is now essential. After 30 long years of futile ...
Stewart Stevenson: SNP
I am delighted to hear that the Tories are opposed to the CFP. Can Ted Brocklebank remind us who took us into the CFP?
Mr Brocklebank: Con
Yes, I am happy to do that. Ted Heath took us into the CFP in 1973. However, he ceded responsibility only out to the 12-mile limit. It was Jim Callaghan's Go...
Sarah Boyack (Edinburgh Central) (Lab): Lab
I am glad to be able to take part in the debate. The debate should be about how we get from where we are to a Scotland that we can truly call sustainable.The...
Eleanor Scott (Highlands and Islands) (Green): Green
Will the member take an intervention?
Sarah Boyack: Lab
No, I will not. I have only four minutes, and Eleanor Scott will get another chance to speak.It is important not to be simplistic. There is not one answer an...
Mark Ballard (Lothians) (Green): Green
We have heard a classic opening to the debate, with the Minister for Environment and Rural Development coming out with some of the classic smears against the...
The Deputy Minister for Environment and Rural Development (Allan Wilson): Lab
Mark Ballard talks about quality of life and I agree with all that he has said. However, how can quality of life be guaranteed for many of our citizens if th...
Mark Ballard: Green
Economic opportunities and employment opportunities are not the same as economic growth. The Executive still measures economic growth in terms of net nationa...
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab
Why did the Green party fail to support a statutory instrument at the Environment and Rural Development Committee that will do just what the member is advoca...
Mark Ballard: Green
Eleanor Scott will deal with that question in detail, but I remind people that just because the word "conservation" appears in the title of a proposal, that ...
Christine Grahame (South of Scotland) (SNP): SNP
Some of the language on these issues is very complex for ordinary members of the public. When asked what was meant by sustainable development, only 27 per ce...