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Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
06 Feb 2003
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It is with great pleasure that I invite the Parliament to approve the general principles of the Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill. This small but beautiful bill could make a considerable contribution to organic farming in Scotland and to a healthy future for our economy ...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
06 Feb 2003
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I ask Alasdair Morrison to consider the fact that, of the representations that we received from organic farmers, those who were in favour of the bill outnumbered those who were against it by about 90 to one. I hope that his re-election to Parliament does not depend on what he ...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
23 Nov 2006
Adult Support and Protection (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
During the previous session of Parliament, in 2002 to 2003, I tried to have hate crime legislation extended to all the groups that are identified under European employment law as subject to discrimination. That seemed to be the simplest way to get a list of groups that are sub...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green) Green Chamber
02 Dec 2010
Wildlife and Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I agree with practically every word of Peter Peacock’s speech. He has saved me a little time because I do not need to cover everything now. I will pick up on two of Peter Peacock’s observations. I agree whole-heartedly with his comments on snaring. The proposals are a good sta...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
06 Feb 2003
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
How can I disagree with that? My point is that, under the bill, successive Executives would be required over the next 10 years to come back to the Parliament with their yearly plans. What Ross Finnie proposes is a four-year plan—it could end in four years. What I propose is a ...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green) Green Chamber
02 Mar 2011
Wildlife and Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill
I thank the Rural Affairs and Environment Committee for all its hard work on the bill, which is a welcome measure. It will improve and modernise a range of statutes on wildlife and the natural environment, especially as they relate to game species, wildlife crime and invasive ...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
17 Dec 2002
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Thank you. I am happy to answer questions on the financial memorandum, of which all members have a copy.Concern has been expressed that the target figure of 20 per cent that the bill will set is unrealistic and unattainable—utopian even. However, there has been much talk of ta...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
07 May 2009
Climate Change (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I recommend that everyone should pay close attention to nearly every speech that I have heard over the past two days.In her closing remarks yesterday, Roseanna Cunningham reminded us all that the bill is our chance to leave a legacy for the long-term future of Scotland. I agre...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
04 Feb 2010
Marine (Scotland) Bill
We are about to pass our first Scottish marine bill and it has been a long time in coming. It is not quite the bill that Green ministers would have written—many opportunities have been missed or passed by—but, that said, the bill has been improved by the passing of a number of...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Committee
05 Apr 2000
Standards in Scotland's Schools etc Bill: Stage 2
It is not strange that WWF, the RSPB and a number of other environmental organisations want to amend the section. Let me say something about the context. Outdoor education in Scotland has been on a downward trend recently. The Scottish Environmental Education Council is now de...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
03 Dec 2002
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I would say that the bill will encourage the industry to be more competitive. The supply chain is currently very inefficient. The bill provides a framework to aid the removal of barriers through a targeted action plan, which it will obviously be up to the Executive to produce....
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
29 Jan 2003
Water Environment and Water Services (Scotland) Bill
I will be brief, as it has been a long day. I add to all other members' thanks my thanks to the clerks, the Scottish Parliament information centre and all those who gave evidence. I say a particular thank-you to the environmental organisations that are organised through Scotti...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
06 Feb 2003
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Mike Russell virtually took the words out of my mouth. He evinced the same concerns as I have and enunciated the way forward that the Executive could have accepted some time ago but has still not accepted. I hope that it does that before 5 o'clock.Through the approach that I d...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
28 Jan 2004
Education (Additional Support for Learning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I take no exception whatever to the spirit of the bill or to the statutory duties that are required under it. In fact, I back the bill absolutely. I was just saying that the next step forward in educational thinking and in our attitudes could be to include the co-ordinated sup...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
17 Jan 2007
Protection of Vulnerable Groups (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I congratulate members of the Education Committee on the huge amount of work that they have already done on the bill, and I apologise for my impetuosity in lodging a motion to get rid of part 3 just before—rather than just after—the report was published. I hope that my apology...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
29 Oct 2009
Marine Scotland Bill: Stage 1
The Liberal Democrats have already voiced their concerns in that area. All that I have to say on that issue at present is that it is clearly up for further discussion. However, I believe that science is still being driven into a corner. If the point of the bill is to get healt...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Committee
15 Mar 2000
Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The amendment is to"leave out and insert in section 2, page 1, line 17. I draw the committee's attention to the evidence from the Scottish Land Reform Convention and to the contribution that I made to the stage 1 debate. The Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc (Scotland) Bill seek...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
02 Jun 2009
Current Petitions
I agree with Bill Butler. If we decided to refer the petition to the Justice Committee, I am 100 per cent certain that its reply would be that the children's hearings bill will be introduced at the end of June and that it would be appropriate for the petitioners to see whether...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Committee
03 Dec 2002
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The bill has been three years in gestation. Three years ago, a meeting took place with more than 70 people from all parts of Scotland, representing stakeholders in farming and organic farming, at which the possibility of an organic targets bill was discussed. Subsequently, a p...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
17 Dec 2002
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
We considered how much we could remove from the face of the bill. As members can see, the bill is slim and we hope that it is easy to understand and would be an effective instrument. Targets need to be included on the face of the bill for the simple reason that farmers and the...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
15 Dec 1999
Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I make no apologies for pursuing points that have already been raised by Roseanna Cunningham and expanded on by Christine Grahame. I welcome the fact that those members have said that they would like to pursue the debate in the Justice and Home Affairs Committee. Scotland need...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
31 Jan 2001
Education (Graduate Endowment and Student Support) (Scotland) (No 2) Bill: Stage 1
I preface my remarks by indicating, irrespective of his support for the bill as a whole, my support for Duncan McNeil's remarks—I see that he is not here—on the place of further education. We must learn to value teaching and learning in FE on an equal level with teaching and l...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
24 Apr 2002
Freedom of Information (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I thank the clerks for assisting me in drafting amendments 10 and 11, which can be considered together. I propose the amendments in order that regulations on environmental information, which will fulfil Scotland's obligations as a signatory to the Aarhus convention on access t...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
16 Jan 2003
Dog Fouling (Scotland) Bill:<br />Stage 1
I always wonder why, when one steps in one of those leavings of dogs, one's instep manages to collect the maximum quantity of excrement to transport into one's house.I would have liked comprehensive legislation that covers all fouling and littering of our streets. Colin Campbe...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
10 May 2006
Scottish Schools (Parental Involvement) Bill
I will restrict my remarks. My colleagues in the Scottish Green Party and I are glad to see the bill. My response to Fiona Hyslop's criticism that the bill might be getting in the way of other legislation on children and young people is that it is a pity that the bill was not ...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
15 Feb 2007
Adult Support and Protection (Scotland) Bill
As someone who did not have the honour of serving on the Health Committee when it considered the bill, I congratulate it on the thoroughness of its work and its many achievements. As Jean Turner pointed out, the bill has been transformed as a result of interaction between the ...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
07 May 2009
Climate Change (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I thank the minister for his intervention. The argument to include aviation and shipping emissions has also been won. It is essential to include the emissions from those sources. We want to count them so that we can see them fall, not so that we can watch them rise inexorably ...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
05 Mar 2002
Freedom of Information (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
First, I thank the clerks for their help in drafting amendments 125 and 128. Those amendments are lodged to fulfil the intention that the environmental regulations referred to in section 62 of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Bill should come into force no later than one ...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
17 Dec 2002
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Absolutely. It is a matter of considerable regret to us that, in the preparation of the bill, we were faced with having to lump everything into the same budget. That has meant that, if one heading is increased, another has to be decreased and vice versa. If, for example, rural...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
04 Oct 2000
Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I thank the clerks for their assistance in preparing the wording of my amendment, which applies to the beginning of the bill, before section 1. The new section would provide a statutory basis for local transport strategies. It would impose a duty on local transport authorities...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
05 Jul 2000
National Parks (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
John Muir did not allow it to happen; the United States Government pursued that policy.I have a feeling that there are still some members who do not understand the international significance of national park designation. It is internationally accepted that parks can be graded ...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
26 Jun 2003
Fireworks Bill
Last year we had a debate on fireworks that Shona Robison secured. I am pleased that today's motion endorses the Fireworks Bill, which embodies many of the topics that were covered in that earlier debate. I am also pleased that COSLA and the SSPCA were two of the organisations...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
06 Oct 2004
School Education (Ministerial Powers and Independent Schools) (Scotland) Bill
Thank you.When I first read the bill, I also thought that it was a modest little bill but, like Lord James, I have been lobbied by the Educational Institute of Scotland and COSLA, and when one is lobbied by the EIS and COSLA one has to listen. They are seriously concerned—and ...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
22 Feb 2006
Scottish Schools (Parental Involvement) Bill: Stage 1
I come at the issue from a slightly different angle. The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child gives children and young people the right to be involved in decisions that affect their lives, a principle that is supported in the Standards in Scotland's Schools etc...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Committee
27 Jan 2004
Non-Executive Bills
I will say a few words about NEBU. Its prioritisation of proposed bills in the previous session was not party political in any way; the priorities that it was forced to set were based on the available evidence and a rational appraisal of whether the bills would be fit for disc...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
03 Dec 2002
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The bill requires the Executive to produce an action plan. The action plan is absolutely crucial to the success of the bill. The bill is not just about a target. It requires the Executive to produce an action plan and to update it regularly. Having an action plan is central to...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
17 Dec 2002
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
One can only express the hope that that is so. The figures are laid out on pages 6 and 7 of the explanatory notes. As I said, the sum that goes to organic farming is very small. The total agricultural subsidy that is paid to farmers is £440 million. The agri-environment budget...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
17 Dec 2002
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
At no point in the preparation of the bill did we envisage that its implementation would impinge seriously on imports from third-world countries. I am particularly keen on fair trade agreements with the third world, as are many of the people who worked on the preparation of th...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
17 Dec 2002
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
No, it is not. However, the terms of the bill would enable the Parliament to hold the Executive to account if the Executive produced results that ran counter to the bill's intent, which is to produce a balanced development of organic agriculture in Scotland.As I said at the be...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Committee
26 May 2009
Climate Change (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
For the Climate Change (Scotland) Bill to be a success, it will need to do two things: first, it will need to set targets for reductions in emissions at the right levels, and secondly, it will have to set out how to achieve those targets. My first two amendments focus on the t...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
05 Jul 2000
National Parks (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I am sorry.Beware the Wolf of Badenoch—even though he comes before us in sheep's clothing. He tells us not to worry, saying that it will not make any difference if one little phrase is removed from the bill by means of his amendment. I put it to members that removing it would ...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
14 Sep 2000
Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have only three minutes to speak and just three points to make—about climate change, home zones and an out-of-town parking levy. I welcome the commitment to the environment made by Tavish Scott and Nora Radcliffe. I ask the minister whether the bill will deliver the target f...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
20 Dec 2000
Transport (Scotland) Bill: <br />Stage 3
The roads lobby predicted a 50 per cent increase in road traffic by 2020. Not so long ago, the minister, with some asperity, said that it was not the policy of the Executive to predict and provide. That suggests that, at that time, the Executive intended to take its commitment...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
03 Oct 2001
“A Forward Strategy for Scottish Agriculture”
I declare an interest in the development of the organic food and farming targets bill, which is currently in the expert hands of the non-Executive bills unit—it may be there for some time.When the intention to produce a strategy for agriculture was announced, I thought that I ...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
14 Feb 2002
Water Industry (Scotland) Bill
As one of the members of the Transport and the Environment Committee who has lasted from the very beginning of work on the bill until today, I am happy to say that I believe the bill to be fit for purpose. Notwithstanding John McAllion's reservations, I see that purpose as bei...
Robin Harper: Green Chamber
06 Feb 2003
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
My speech will cover that.The nature and size of the targets in the bill troubled the Rural Development Committee. I told the committee that I would be prepared to consider the matter further if necessary. I am more than happy to repeat the offer to revisit the matter at stage...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
20 Feb 2003
Building (Scotland) Bill
I will make one point but, before I do, I will add my tributes to the clerks, the expert witnesses, my colleagues on the committee, Bristow Muldoon for his convenership of the committee during the process of the bill, which was extremely interesting and, not least, to Des McNu...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
13 Nov 2008
Energy Efficiency
I have supported Sarah Boyack's proposal for an energy efficiency and microgeneration bill since its inception about two and a half years ago. However, there is room for serious debate about scale, pace and criteria. The short version of the Green party amendment states simply...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Chamber
29 Oct 2009
Marine Scotland Bill: Stage 1
John Farquhar Munro expressed concern about paying too much attention to scientists and marine science because it might slow things up. However, the problems that we face exist because we have consistently ignored scientists' advice not only for decades but for centuries. We m...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
11 Dec 2002
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
It is an indication of how seriously I take the matter that I am missing a discussion of my Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill in the Transport and the Environment Committee.I will reply to Bill Aitken's point. Article 14 of the European convention on human rights identif...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
18 Nov 2009
Marine (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The major difference between Liam McArthur's amendment 115 and my amendment 101 is that my amendment would give ministers a power to include in the national marine plan economic and social objectives, but only if they were consistent with the marine ecosystem and climate chang...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
18 Nov 2009
Marine (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 107 is intended to deal in part with the committee's recommendation in paragraph 183 of its stage 1 report that the bill should set out"the fundamental elements of an appeals procedure against a … licensing decision".It should be noted that the Subordinate Legislatio...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
25 Nov 2009
Marine (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The cabinet secretary has made it clear time and again that the bill is not about fisheries management, yet, if the bill is to have anything at all to do with nature conservation, it cannot ignore the problems—historical and current—that we face from certain fishing practices....
Robin Harper: Green Committee
17 Dec 2002
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
You talked about skewing OAS support towards the easiest option. That is precisely the situation that we have at the moment; 85 per cent of the OAS payments go to rough grazings and only 15 per cent to other organic production. The bill would redress that imbalance. You will n...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
17 Dec 2002
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
As I said, an action plan would address that issue. The bill's target is to convert 20 per cent of all agricultural land to organic farming. It is clear that a co-ordinated action plan would consider upland grazings and decide whether it would be sensible to offer as much extr...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
17 Dec 2002
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have not studied the plan to determine what might be missing from it, but it would be better, even from the English organic market's point of view, to have targets. It may be that, because so much progress has been made with the action plan, the Government in Westminster is ...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
01 Nov 2000
Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I strongly support amendment 116, which is a permissive amendment. The clear intention of many of Bruce Crawford's amendments is to get the bill to mention the needs of disabled people as often as possible. Judging by the lobbying, I think that those groups expect the bill to ...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
08 Nov 2000
Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Murray Tosh talked about the lack of evidence on workplace parking charges. The evidence from Perth in Australia and Singapore, where workplace parking and licensing schemes have been integrated into overall transport strategies, is that such schemes have worked. It is not tha...
Robin Harper: Green Committee
31 Oct 2001
Water Industry (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Are you concerned that the inclusion of water licensing issues in the proposed water services and environment bill, instead of in the Water Industry (Scotland) Bill, might mean that the later bill is not as focused as it could be on implementation of the water framework direct...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green Committee
20 Nov 2002
Water Environment and Water Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
With amendment 30, I want to strengthen section 2(5) of the bill, which states:"Without prejudice to subsections (1) to (4), the Scottish Ministers and every public body and office-holder must, in exercising any functions, have regard to the desirability of protecting the wate...
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Chamber

Plenary, 06 Feb 2003

06 Feb 2003 · S1 · Plenary
Item of business
Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
It is with great pleasure that I invite the Parliament to approve the general principles of the Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill. This small but beautiful bill could make a considerable contribution to organic farming in Scotland and to a healthy future for our economy and environment. It would create many jobs, produce healthy food, reduce pesticide input, restore soil fertility and encourage an abundance of wildlife.

When I first lodged a proposal for a bill in February 2000—more than three years ago—I was enormously encouraged by the cross-party response. Thirty-eight members signed up, and had it not been for the cut-off time of a month, it might have gathered even more signatures. Certainly, it was the most-subscribed-to proposal for a member's bill in the Parliament until the high hedges outgrew us, so to speak.

I wish to express my gratitude to all those who had an input to the bill. I thank the Rural Development Committee, its clerks and its convener Alex Fergusson for the constructive way in which they addressed stage 1. The committee took evidence from a wide range of interests; not all were supportive, although I hasten to add that the great majority were. I also thank the dozen witnesses who gave evidence in person and the 33 people and organisations that submitted written evidence. Thanks are also due to the Transport and the Environment Committee and, most important, to the non-Executive bills unit, particularly David Cullum and Rodger Evans, who assisted greatly.

The impetus for the bill derived from a packed meeting, which took place in the committee chambers over three years ago, with more than 70 stakeholders from conventional and organic farming interests throughout Scotland. The steering group for the bill subsequently assembled and then undertook an extensive written public consultation in early 2001. The proposal was modified as a result of that consultation.

The bill, which was finally introduced on 30 September 2002, is short and straightforward. According to its long title—the word "long" is a misnomer in this case—the bill requires the Scottish ministers to set organic farming targets, to produce a plan for achieving those targets and to report annually to the Scottish Parliament on progress.

I will give members a flavour of the range of support for the bill outside the Parliament. Those who consider the bill a good thing include the Scottish Wildlife Trust, Asda, the Transport and General Workers Union Scotland, the Scottish Agricultural College, the Socialist Environment and Resources Association Scotland, Sainsbury's, Friends of the Earth Scotland, Unison, the Scottish Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, the Soil Association, RSPB Scotland, the Co-operative Group and the Crofters Commission. A further 71 organisations and, as I am sure that members know from their in-trays and inboxes, hundreds of individuals support the bill. Perhaps I could add Mr McConnell to that list, as I understand from no less an authority than the august Sunday Herald that our First Minister is an enthusiast for all things organic.

Paragraph 34 of the Rural Development Committee's stage 1 report on the bill quotes a written submission from the Highlands and Islands Organic Association that nicely captures the ethos of organic farming and the essence of my bill. The quotation might also provide a sense that my bill is not merely about targets and action plans—it is much more than that. The submission said:

"Organic food production is not just about less chemicals and more manure, it is about a new relationship between farmers, working with consumers and other local organisations to put the ‘culture' back into agriculture. Statutory targets are the important headline that will make this happen, and farmers are the people who will make it work."

I suggest that public debate has moved on since the 1980s and 1990s and that the question whether organic farming is desirable has been replaced by the question of how organic production can be increased sustainably. My bill seeks to address that.

I welcome the Rural Development Committee's statement that its members want a vigorous organic sector that is supported fairly. I welcome the committee's conviction that targets should be set for increasing organic production and that those targets should form part of an action plan, which must be produced to stimulate an increase.

However, I was a little disappointed by the committee's scepticism about including targets in the bill. I will elaborate on my approach and why I took it. The principle of setting targets is important because it provides a tangible, quantifiable and useful approach. To put it simply, targets are things to aim for. The target is our destination; the action plan is the means of getting there—the map. It would not be sensible to have one without the other.

Wales has set a 10 per cent target for 2005. England has set an organic import substitution target for 2010. Targets have also been set in Europe. Countries such as Sweden and Denmark deploy targets in a legislative framework. The use of targets in UK legislation is not new. I refer members to statutes on school standards, national policing, utilities and local government and I even refer them to one of my favourite statutes—the Environment Act 1995. All those statutes use targets.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Mr Murray Tosh): Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S1M-3856, in the name of Robin Harper, on the general principles of the Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bi...
Robin Harper (Lothians) (Green): Green
It is with great pleasure that I invite the Parliament to approve the general principles of the Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill. This small but beaut...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow Kelvin) (Lab): Lab
I recognise Robin Harper's work and I am genuinely listening to him. He knows that I have supported what he is doing. It would help if he explained how statu...
Robin Harper: Green
My speech will cover that.The nature and size of the targets in the bill troubled the Rural Development Committee. I told the committee that I would be prepa...
Michael Russell (South of Scotland) (SNP): SNP
All of us have seen the courteous letters that were exchanged between Robin Harper and the Minister for Environment and Rural Development. I have difficulty ...
Robin Harper: Green
Mike Russell virtually took the words out of my mouth. He evinced the same concerns as I have and enunciated the way forward that the Executive could have ac...
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Con
You are over time.
Robin Harper: Green
I am pleased that, two days ago, the Executive published the "Organic Action Plan" with targets. The uncharitable might view that as an attempt to head off t...
The Minister for Environment and Rural Development (Ross Finnie): LD
I welcome the debate on how best to support sustainable development in the Scottish organic sector. I make it clear that the Executive does not regard the su...
Karen Gillon (Clydesdale) (Lab): Lab
I accept the point that the minister makes, but will he accept that another important argument is about affordability? Does he accept that the Executive will...
Ross Finnie: LD
With all due respect, I am not arguing against that. I wholly support that view. I merely said that it is wrong to suggest that the Executive can set some so...
Michael Russell: SNP
I want to raise a point with the minister that I raised in my intervention on Robin Harper. It is very difficult for private members to introduce bills. Desp...
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Con
Mr Russell, your question was rather long-winded.
Ross Finnie: LD
I think that I got the essential point. The fundamental issue is that the Executive works with stakeholders to produce all sorts of plans. Our agricultural s...
Bruce Crawford (Mid Scotland and Fife) (SNP): SNP
First, I congratulate Robin Harper on producing a bill that has already had a considerable impact on the Executive's approach to the organic farming sector, ...
Robin Harper: Green
Will the member take an intervention?
Bruce Crawford: SNP
I will do so, but I first want to say something to qualify what I have just said. It would be preferable for targets to be introduced through, for example, a...
Robin Harper: Green
Does the member accept that the SOPA representative later conceded that he was speaking for himself rather than for SOPA when he said what the member quoted?
Bruce Crawford: SNP
That is true—I accept that entirely. I do not think that we should not have targets or that there cannot be targets, but the issue is how to achieve them and...
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Con
Please close, Mr Crawford.
Bruce Crawford: SNP
I will be brief. In Aberdeen, the First Minister told us that, where it was possible and achievable, he would discuss with members introducing members' bills...
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Con
I am afraid that there is no scope for members to overrun their time limits in the way that Bruce Crawford has done. Members should stick closely to the time...
Alex Fergusson (South of Scotland) (Con): Con
I will preface my speech as the rural affairs spokesman for the Scottish Conservatives with some sentences as convener of the Rural Development Committee. Fi...
Robin Harper: Green
Does the member accept that conventional farming is not market led and that it exists on subsidies? Why should organic farming not receive similar support?
Alex Fergusson: Con
I will come to that matter. Mr Harper is well aware that there is a separate organic aid scheme.The evidence that the past chairman of SOPA gave us and lette...
Mr Alasdair Morrison (Western Isles) (Lab): Lab
We are not debating the merits of organic farming; we are debating the general principles of a bill in Robin Harper's name. I intimate that I will not suppor...
Bruce Crawford: SNP
Does Alasdair Morrison agree that the action plan does not bring us entirely into line with England and Wales, because in Wales targets have been set for org...
Mr Morrison: Lab
I find it perplexing that the targets within a bill entitled the Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill would not be statutory or binding, as Robin Harper s...
Robin Harper rose— Green
Mr Morrison: Lab
I would like Mr Harper to let me continue. We should consider where the considerable amount of money that is spent supporting farming is deployed. Could that...