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Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab Chamber
04 Feb 2016
Alcohol (Licensing, Public Health and Criminal Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am pleased to open the stage 1 debate on my Alcohol (Licensing, Public Health and Criminal Justice) (Scotland) Bill, although I regret the brevity of the time that has been allowed for the debate. This is a multipurpose bill with 10 different strands, all of which have the ...
The Deputy Minister for Justice (Dr Richard Simpson): Lab Committee
19 Nov 2002
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 71 appears to be intended to give courts the power to remand an offender in custody, pending the date of a hearing to determine whether there has been a breach of a non-custodial order. The orders that would be affected by the amendment are probation orders, drug tre...
The Deputy Minister for Justice (Dr Richard Simpson): Lab Chamber
13 Nov 2002
Debt Arrangement and Attachment (Scotland) Bill:<br />Stage 3
As Mr Sheridan said, amendment 24, which reflects the amendment 66 that he moved at stage 2, would provide in the bill a requirement that a debt arrangement scheme would be cost free to debtors. The Executive confirmed at stage 2 that that was a matter of detail best dealt wit...
Dr Simpson Lab Chamber
24 Feb 2011
Patient Rights (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I will speak to amendments 4, 16 to 22 and 26.We are in the process of devising a comprehensive NHS system of complaints and, as the cabinet secretary said, although a complaints system has already been in existence, this will be the first time that it is placed squarely withi...
Dr Simpson: Lab Chamber
31 May 2001
Regulation of Care (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Section 24A was inserted at stage 2 and the Executive now seeks to delete it. Members have heard the arguments for that deletion from the minister—I will come to those.I want to put on record some facts and concerns about care in the community that led me to introduce section ...
Dr Simpson: Lab Chamber
13 Nov 2002
Debt Arrangement and Attachment (Scotland) Bill:<br />Stage 3
At stage 2, Cathie Craigie and Robert Brown expressed concerns about the requirement to prescribe an upper monetary limit for the amount of debt and a lower limit for the number of creditors in relation to participation in a debt payment programme. Instead, they wanted section...
Dr Simpson: Lab Chamber
13 Nov 2002
Debt Arrangement and Attachment (Scotland) Bill:<br />Stage 3
As I indicated when the Social Justice Committee discussed Kenny Gibson's amendment 110 at stage 2, on 9 October, we would have been well disposed towards workable amendments on the provision—indeed, we encouraged suggestions. Kenny Gibson's amendment 110 was rejected at stage...
Dr Simpson Lab Chamber
24 May 2012
Alcohol (Minimum Pricing) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 5 relates to a scheme for recovery of sums in relation to certain licensed premises—or what has come to be known in debates as the windfall tax.I make no apology for returning to the issue of the additional revenue that will accrue to the industry—mainly to the off-t...
The Deputy Minister for Justice (Dr Richard Simpson): Lab Committee
26 Nov 2002
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill
I have taken careful account of members' contributions during the stage 1 proceedings and of the committee's stage 1 report. Pertinent points were made and we will lodge a series of amendments that will, I believe, take account of them. I will describe those amendments in a mo...
Dr Simpson: Lab Chamber
30 Sep 1999
Public Finance and Accountability (Scotland) Bill
I will cut out all the major welcoming bits that everybody else mentioned. One thing that I want to welcome is the new arrangements for health boards and trusts. That change, which will allow greater democratic scrutiny, is of considerable importance and I am pleased that it i...
Dr Simpson: Lab Chamber
06 Mar 2002
Sexual Offences (Procedure and Evidence) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
We have had a useful debate on this subject, but, like other members, I am slightly concerned. The committee process is vital in a unicameral legislature and issues of this magnitude should be addressed at stage 2, which allows for the appropriate amount of consideration. I wi...
Dr Simpson: Lab Chamber
06 Jan 2010
Child and Adolescent Mental Health and Wellbeing
This has been a useful debate on a report that I hope will have some effect. In opening the debate, Christine Grahame almost summed it up by saying that the framework is there. Once again, we have the strategy and the policy; now we must drive forward the action. That is not a...
Dr Simpson Lab Chamber
10 Nov 2010
Alcohol etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I thank the cabinet secretary for taking up the discussions that took place at stage 2 and for lodging amendment 9 at stage 3, which we will of course support. We moved an amendment at stage 2 because we firmly believe that tackling underage drinking and proxy sales—as well as...
Dr Simpson Lab Chamber
17 Nov 2010
Patient Rights (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I will come back to that.A number of members have referred to the Law Society, which pointed out that there are 17 other rights that patients already have that are not set out in the bill. Ten of those are listed in paragraph 43 of the committee’s report. Some of those rights ...
Dr Simpson Lab Committee
31 Jan 2012
Alcohol (Minimum Pricing) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Although I accept some of those points, I point out that the lowest two of the seven socioeconomic groups have a much higher death rate from alcohol cirrhosis. My personal experience—and none of the doctors has contradicted this—is that many of the people concerned start in hi...
Dr Simpson Lab Committee
01 May 2012
Alcohol (Minimum Pricing) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
As the cabinet secretary knows, the Labour Party remains doubtful of the likelihood of minimum unit pricing delivering the levels of change that we all want to see in Scottish society’s approach to the consumption of alcohol. Amendment 11 seeks to ensure that, as far as possib...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab Chamber
24 May 2012
Alcohol (Minimum Pricing) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
During stage 2, when I moved a more complex set of amendments to section 1, I believed that it was important to simplify the overall formula. However, I have taken on board Jim Eadie’s criticisms of those amendments, which were that my stage 2 proposals would complicate the bi...
Dr Simpson Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Mental Health (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The committee will probably realise that, throughout our consideration of the bill, I have been wrestling with the differentiation between the definition of “incapacity” in the Adults with Incapacity (Scotland) Act 2000 and the lower test of capacity commonly known as SIDMA. ...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab Chamber
24 Jun 2015
Mental Health (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 24 follows stage 2 amendment 109, which was lodged by Adam Ingram in response to concerns that were raised with him, me and Nanette Milne. When that amendment was lodged, the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence had just published guidance reinforcing Ad...
Dr Simpson Lab Committee
26 May 2015
Mental Health (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I very much welcome part 2 in general and the approach of trying to involve victims and their families in the process. I also welcome the on-going work between the Mental Welfare Commission and Healthcare Improvement Scotland to streamline the system. However, I have residual ...
Dr Simpson: Lab Committee
07 May 2008
Public Health etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I thank the minister for lodging her amendments 65 and 131. I lodged my amendment 201 before I saw her amendments.As she knows, the committee stated in its stage 1 report:"The Committee is not satisfied with the Minister for Public Health's position that there would be no prac...
Dr Simpson: Lab Committee
04 Feb 2009
Health Boards (Membership and Elections) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
My concern is that, far too often, when setting up pilots—this was the case even when I was in government—we only subsequently consider what might be involved in the evaluation and who might produce it. As a result, evaluators often get involved so late in the process that the...
Dr Simpson: Lab Committee
18 Nov 2009
Tobacco and Primary Medical Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
We have had another very useful debate and I welcome and support the Government amendments, which provide greater flexibility with regard to the form of the companies that might be involved. However, there is still a debate about whether the requirement for a medical practitio...
The Deputy Minister for Justice (Dr Richard Simpson): Lab Committee
18 Dec 2001
Sexual Offences (Procedure and Evidence) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Previous convictions have always been capable of being admitted to the court. There has been a process for that, as I will explain when we debate the amendments. We are proposing a change to the way in which that is done, to bring it forward and to balance more directly the in...
Dr Richard Simpson (Ochil) (Lab): Lab Committee
01 Mar 2000
Adults with Incapacity (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
That is correct. First, on behalf of Margaret and the Health and Community Care Committee, we accept that the phraseology of amendment 323 is better than that of amendment 183, so we will not be moving amendment 183. However, I have been asked by the committee to raise a numbe...
The Deputy Minister for Justice (Dr Richard Simpson): Lab Chamber
17 Jan 2002
Freedom of Information (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am pleased to be closing the debate. I believe that the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Bill, when passed, will have a fundamental impact on the Scottish public and the public authorities that serve them. I feel privileged to be involved in such an important and welcome pi...
Dr Simpson: Lab Chamber
17 Jan 2002
Freedom of Information (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am afraid that the Presiding Officer is signalling that I am already beyond my time, but I am sure that Lord James will pursue that with me at stage 2.Indeed, I look forward to the stage 2 consideration, when we will need to consider each amendment carefully. I say that beca...
Dr Simpson: Lab Chamber
24 Apr 2002
Freedom of Information (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 14 replaces an amendment that Michael Matheson lodged at stage 2. That amendment sought to ensure that any discretion that might be given to the commissioner could also be "exercisable in response to an application made by a Scottish public authority." During the sta...
Dr Simpson: Lab Chamber
24 Apr 2002
Freedom of Information (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I will try quickly to address those points. First, on the last point, a programme of research includes a one-off piece of finite research. It does not mean a programme as Mike Rumbles and I understand it; it is a programme as lawyers understand it, which is quite different. Th...
Dr Simpson: Lab Chamber
18 Sep 2002
Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
No. Let me get started. It is regrettable that Roseanna Cunningham suggested that the bill is a ragbag, which is effectively what she said.Nevertheless, the debate has been very good and in some speeches members have raised extremely helpful points. The bill is based on the pr...
Dr Simpson: Lab Chamber
13 Nov 2002
Debt Arrangement and Attachment (Scotland) Bill:<br />Stage 3
The measures proposed in amendment 34 were debated at stage 2, so I do not propose to go over all the ground again. However, it is worth reiterating that we want ready availability of well-informed, well-trained and well-supported money advisers. We have, as members have indic...
Dr Simpson: Lab Chamber
13 Nov 2002
Debt Arrangement and Attachment (Scotland) Bill:<br />Stage 3
Amendment 90 responds to concerns raised during stage 2 about the regulations' providing for public notice of applications. Robert Brown's amendment 43, which was passed during stage 2, deleted the enabling power in section 7, allowing the regulations to provide for public not...
Dr Simpson: Lab Chamber
13 Nov 2002
Debt Arrangement and Attachment (Scotland) Bill:<br />Stage 3
This group of amendments—all of which deal with practical arrangements for valuing and removing articles attached under the procedures set out in the bill—falls into three smaller groups, each dealing with a particular aspect. I shall address each in turn. The first of those s...
Dr Simpson: Lab Chamber
13 Nov 2002
Debt Arrangement and Attachment (Scotland) Bill:<br />Stage 3
Amendments 16 to 20 are technical amendments to clarify the meaning of sections 44 and 46(2)(b). During stage 1, it became clear that a number of people who had read the bill had found section 46(2)(b) unclear. Earlier amendments at stage 2 had sought to rectify that but, on f...
Dr Simpson: Lab Chamber
13 Nov 2002
Debt Arrangement and Attachment (Scotland) Bill:<br />Stage 3
Amendments 70 and 71 have contradictory purposes. Amendment 70 would make a home visit from a money adviser compulsory in all cases before the sheriff has decided whether to grant an exceptional attachment order. That is unwise, because it would prevent the sheriff from exerci...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab): Lab Chamber
17 Apr 2008
Public Health etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
This has been an interesting debate. As Jamie Stone said, interesting colour was provided by the historical perspective of my older colleague, who referred to events that took place well before my time. It is important to take an historical perspective on the bill. Although we...
Dr Simpson: Lab Chamber
12 Jun 2008
Public Health etc (Scotland) Bill
But, although I had intended to start my speech by saying that this bill is historic, I feel that that word is becoming devalued through overuse. That point has not yet been recognised, but it may be in due course.This is an important piece of legislation in an otherwise fairl...
Dr Simpson: Lab Chamber
24 Sep 2009
Tobacco and Primary Medical Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I should declare an interest as a member of the BMA, although whether I will still be a member at the end of this process is another matter. I am also a member of the Royal College of General Practitioners. I hope that Ross Finnie will forgive me, but I will concentrate on par...
Dr Simpson Lab Committee
29 Sep 2010
Alcohol etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
With amendment 52, I am attempting to do on alcohol what the Parliament did on tobacco. I am not completely happy with the progress on detection of underage purchasing or of proxy purchasing. Earlier, I mentioned some of the elements that were coming through in reports.It is n...
Dr Simpson Lab Committee
05 Oct 2010
Alcohol etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I accept that it was entirely her prerogative, on advice, to act in the way that she did. On alcohol treatment and testing orders, we have made the point that within the current system of conditions, those orders could perhaps be tested in a much more specific way. I would be ...
Dr Simpson Lab Chamber
03 Feb 2011
Certification of Death (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I accepted the approach in the report, but on reflection and after hearing what members have said in the debate I think that we probably have to think again. I will be interested to hear what other members say.We have not addressed some issues, such as the ordering of a post m...
Dr Simpson Lab Committee
02 Mar 2011
Certification of Death (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
That is helpful. I support the amendments, but problems exist. I suggest that the minister seeks advice before stage 3. About 250 deaths a year occur abroad and the number of those people who have implants is of course small. However, any cremated implant would be explosive—th...
Dr Simpson Lab Committee
15 Jun 2011
Work Programme
I do not want to cause trouble already, but I ask whether our excellent support team, some of whom were with us in session 3, could provide us, by e-mail, with a list of and links to various documents: first, all reports by the Parliament’s health committees since 1999 and, se...
Dr Simpson Lab Chamber
16 Mar 2011
Certification of Death (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 7, which follows on from the Health and Sport Committee’s stage 1 report and observations that I have made at each stage of the bill’s progress, has two interconnected purposes. First, I wish to test whether the minister has taken on board the need for urgency in mov...
Dr Simpson Lab Chamber
24 May 2012
Alcohol (Minimum Pricing) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
This is the last group of amendments on the bill. My amendments 6 and 7 seek to achieve additions to the welcome amendments that the cabinet secretary has proposed, which are amendments 1 and 2. I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for responding positively to the i...
Dr Simpson Lab Committee
12 Dec 2012
High Hedges (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Would it be possible to indicate not only whether the disputes were about single trees or hedges but whether they were about deciduous or evergreen plants? I know that you do not treat them differently in the Isle of Man.Would it also be possible to show at what stage in the p...
Dr Simpson Lab Chamber
09 Dec 2014
Food (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I appreciate that we had a good debate on this matter at stage 2 in the Health and Sport Committee, when an amendment was moved by Aileen McLeod to change the minimum number of members to five. The minister at the time did not accept the amendment, although the increase was su...
Dr Simpson Lab Chamber
02 Oct 2014
Food (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
The attempts to reformulate foods with lower levels of salt remain important. Working with the industry on that will be an important part of FSS’s work. On saturated fats, although excellent progress has been made in reducing the amount of trans fats—members might remember th...
Dr Simpson Lab Committee
27 Jan 2015
Assisted Suicide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I declare an interest as a member and past chair of Strathcarron Hospice. All of the witnesses are, if I do not misrepresent them, broadly against the bill, although some are more definitely against it than others are. I challenge them to say, if the Parliament agrees to the ...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab Chamber
12 Mar 2015
Mental Health (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I refer members to my declaration in the members’ register of interests as a fellow of the Royal College of Psychiatry and honorary professor of psychology. The new funds to which the minister referred are of course welcome, although I point out that, proportionately, mental ...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab Chamber
09 Dec 2014
Food (Scotland) Bill
We have had a Food Standards Agency since 1999, but as part of a United Kingdom agency. The agency has been a success and has acted on its own initiative, for example, as I said at stage 3, on standards for school meals. More recently, it has produced independent research on f...
Dr Simpson Lab Committee
19 May 2015
Mental Health (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I am not totally convinced that amendments 44 to 46, to which we have already agreed, cover the situation adequately. I still think that there need to be regulations—beyond the bill’s provisions—for the responsible medical officer to have regard to the advance statement and th...
Dr Simpson Lab Committee
26 May 2015
Mental Health (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I thank the minister for his response. The fact that the court will determine the issue is very important, because that should protect the person’s rights under the ECHR. On that basis I will withdraw the amendment at this stage. I will consult the Law Society as to whether we...
Dr Simpson Lab Chamber
24 Jun 2015
Mental Health (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Amendment 25 is a technical amendment to extend the regulation-making power to all units or qualifying hospitals other than the state hospital. Amendment 26 would require a review of all security before further regulations are made. I moved an extensive amendment at stage 2 se...
Dr Simpson Lab Chamber
24 Jun 2015
Mental Health (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
As I said at stage 2, the inclusion of learning disabilities and autism spectrum disorder in the mental health legislation was raised by a number of witnesses. As Mark McDonald said, there are contrasting views on the issue, but the weight of opinion is in favour of removing l...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab Chamber
25 Jun 2015
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
I was not a member of the committee that considered the bill, but I observed the evidence that was given by a number of people at stage 1 about information that is available to the public. Amendment 14 would create a national alcohol licensing register to ensure that communiti...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab Chamber
27 May 2015
Assisted Suicide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Patrick Harvie, the proposer of the bill, has made an eloquent case for a change in the law, and it is absolutely right that members in this chamber wrestle with the issue, but the Health and Sport Committee has an extensive list of concerns, which were summarised well by the ...
Dr Simpson Lab Chamber
24 Jun 2015
Mental Health (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
The first piece of legislation that was passed by our Parliament in 1999, and with which I was personally involved, sought to tackle the situation arising from an appeal made by Noel Ruddle under the European convention on human rights against his detention in the state hospit...
Dr Simpson Lab Committee
26 May 2015
Mental Health (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The inclusion of learning disabilities and autism spectrum disorder in mental health legislation was raised by a number of witnesses and in written submissions to the committee. Autism Rights and Psychiatric Rights Scotland called for the removal of people with learning disabi...
Dr Simpson Lab Committee
26 May 2015
Mental Health (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
The numbers affected by my amendment 113 would actually be very small—the minister has almost conceded that in the statement that he has just made. I agree with him that, normally, a period of six to 12 months might seem long enough to ensure that there is not a misdiagnosis, ...
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Meeting of the Parliament 04 February 2016

04 Feb 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Alcohol (Licensing, Public Health and Criminal Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Simpson, Dr Richard Lab Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

I am pleased to open the stage 1 debate on my Alcohol (Licensing, Public Health and Criminal Justice) (Scotland) Bill, although I regret the brevity of the time that has been allowed for the debate.

This is a multipurpose bill with 10 different strands, all of which have the aim of addressing the effects of alcohol overconsumption. The common purpose of most of them—as I emphasised throughout the Health and Sport Committee’s evidence sessions—is not to address the needs of the serious dependent drinker, which, to be fair, the Government has made significant attempts to tackle, but to intervene at an early stage when individuals may be at risk of developing a dependency and to assist in preventing it from progressing. I think that there is universal acceptance that Scotland needs to go further than it has done so far to tackle alcohol overconsumption.

I continue to believe that most of the proposals in the bill can yield real benefits and deserve the Parliament’s support. I am very disappointed that the Scottish Government has signalled its opposition to all 10 measures in the bill, alongside the majority of the Health and Sport Committee, although I am grateful to the minority of members of the committee who supported eight out of the 10 proposals.

Before I discuss some of the details of the bill in the very brief time that I have, I take the opportunity to thank the Finance Committee and the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee for their considered scrutiny of the bill. In particular, despite my disagreement with the conclusions of the majority of the committee, I thank the Health and Sport Committee for its thorough scrutiny and for recognising that we all share the common aim of searching for the best ways of tackling Scotland’s problematic relationship with alcohol.

My thanks are also due to all the organisations and individuals who responded to my consultation and subsequently gave evidence to the committee.

I would especially like to put on record my thanks to the Parliament’s non-Government bills unit, without whose prodigious efforts and support the bill would never have been lodged. It is the longest-running member’s bill since the Parliament started in 1999.

I lodged the draft proposal in March 2012, partly in response to the Government’s acknowledgement that minimum unit pricing, its core proposal for tackling alcohol, was, in its words, “not a magic bullet” and the fact that it was in some doubt at the time because of the case going to the European Court of Justice. I hope that that issue will be resolved in June when a Scottish court makes the final decisions.

The original proposal included 14 different measures but, following consideration of the responses to the consultation—which were broadly supportive in the main—and discussion with the Government about alternative routes to achieve some of the bill’s objectives, I decided to focus on the 10 measures that I believed would be most effective. In May 2014, the final proposal received cross-party support. The length of time between the original consultation and the final submission was partly due to the delay when I was off for a year for cancer treatment.

In line with the terms of my final proposal, the aims of the bill are to promote public health and reduce alcohol-related offending through restrictions on the retailing and advertising of alcoholic drinks; changes to the licensing laws; obligations on the Scottish ministers to issue guidance and report on the Government’s alcohol education policy; and directing certain offenders towards treatment or towards restricting their alcohol consumption.

As part of a comprehensive approach, the bill is about both tackling health issues and revising the criminal justice system to focus properly on those whose drinking is causing problems for themselves and for others.

Prior to the publication of the Health and Sport Committee’s stage 1 report, I reflected on some of the evidence that had been presented to the committee. I recognised that some of the measures were not unanimously supported, or that they could reasonably be modified, and I subsequently wrote to the committee to share developments in my thinking in a number of areas.

My intention was that the adjustments that I proposed would leave the bill stronger and with the more generally supported measures in place. The bill was always a series of incremental measures. The revisions represented a further reduction in the number of measures from my original draft proposal. I wrote to the committee setting out the proposed revisions. Most significantly, I advised that I would be prepared to withdraw the strands that related to alcohol education policy statements, because I recognised that there was already scope for monitoring and evaluation of the alcohol framework for action and that there was only limited support for my proposal.

I strongly believed in the measure for notification of offenders’ general practitioners; nevertheless, both the courts and the general practitioners did not support it and I therefore decided that it would be appropriate to drop the measure at stage 2, if we reached that point.

The restriction on alcohol advertising for off-sales premises within large retailers is already largely covered by legislation, so my proposal in section 8 would not add much to the bill. It was therefore reasonable to decide to withdraw the proposed measure.

I drew the committee’s attention to the fact that, in a multistrand bill such as this one, it should be possible to remove any measure by amendment at stage 2 if the Parliament felt that it was inappropriate to support it. Even if the committee had supported only a minority of the 10 proposed measures, it could still have recommended that the general principles be agreed at stage 1 in order to allow the measures that are broadly supported by the public and specialist organisations to proceed to the amending stages. I am disappointed that neither the Health and Sport Committee nor the Government has chosen to follow that course of action.

Frankly, the message is clear that the Government is not in a hurry to act. I urge the members in the chamber today to reverse the decision on the bill and vote in favour of the general principles so that those measures that have received a favourable reception might still be taken forward in legislation.

I turn briefly to some individual measures in the bill, but I will use my closing speech to examine some measures in greater detail. I will deal just now with the measure on the minimum pricing of packages of alcohol. The Parliament made it absolutely clear that it wanted to end the practice of volume discounting in both on-sales and off-sales. However, the retailers have quite legitimately and legally got round that by selling multiproducts on the basis that they are not selling a single container of the same product, which means that they continue to have multibuys in beer and cider. It is much more difficult to do that with wine, and there has been a substantial reduction in its consumption—along the lines of the Sheffield report—as a result of the measure that we introduced in the Alcohol etc (Scotland) Act 2010.

My proposal in the bill would still not close off completely the retailers’ practice on beer and cider, because it is very difficult to do that, but it would mean that someone would not gain a substantial advantage by buying a 12-pack or an 18-pack of beer rather than a four-pack. At the moment, the 18-pack is discounted to a huge degree, which means that people who are more able to afford it can go ahead and buy it.

The second measure that I will address is the banning of age discrimination against under-21s. It is clear from the research that the problems associated with the consumption of alcohol are not about 18 to 21-year-olds but more about 21 to 25-year-olds, who have a greater disposable income. When the law says that 18-year-olds can buy drink, any discrimination against under-21s is inappropriate. We tried to close that loophole in the 2010 act, but it was not completely closed. Indeed, advice from the Government to licensing boards indicated that they could decide on a licence-by-licence basis; the 2010 act banned age discrimination only on a wider basis.

I have amended my proposal on caffeine levels in alcoholic drinks to allow ministers to bring in a limitation rather than a total ban on caffeine, as occurs in America. The research on the issue in America is very clear. I accept that the research here is not as clear, but there is no doubt that there is a cultural problem in the west of Scotland in relation to pre-mixed alcohol-caffeine drinks, which cause considerable criminal problems. Some limitation therefore seems appropriate.

The proposed bottle-tagging measure was well supported by the police. I think that the evidence that was given to the committee about the operation of a similar measure in Newcastle was very positive in the sense that it was not about punishing retailers but about supporting staff in retail outlets to reduce the amount of proxy purchasing by giving the police the intelligence that they need to follow it up. Proxy purchasing is not being handled well in Scotland at the moment. That is nobody’s fault, because the problem cannot be managed unless we have the intelligence.

Through the proposal on ensuring that communities have greater involvement in licensing decisions, I wanted to ensure that areas that do not have a community council, which are mainly deprived areas such as those in John Mason’s constituency—I think that he mentioned that issue in a previous debate—would have the right to have a say on the variation of licences. I think that that is an entirely appropriate measure.

The last measure that I will talk about is the restriction on advertising. We have a restriction at the moment on the areas where alcohol can be advertised. However, denormalising alcohol is one of the World Health Organization’s objectives. Within the limited powers that we have, to ban such advertising within 200m of schools would mean that, in effect, we would be banning the billboard advertising of alcohol in Scotland. That would be a small step towards denormalising alcohol.

There are other measures in the bill, such as drink banning orders, that I do not have time to address. I note that the fixed-penalty diversion scheme is already working in Fife and Newcastle. We propose having a pilot in an urban area to test whether it works there. We know that it reduces reoffending, and I cannot see why the Government would oppose that measure—that is regrettable.

I deeply regret that we have not had time for a fuller debate, which might have enabled me to consider some of the measures in greater detail, but I still hope that the Parliament might, at the end of the day, allow the bill to go forward to stage 2, in order that some of the measures, at least, could be introduced.

I move,

That the Parliament agrees to the general principles of the Alcohol (Licensing, Public Health and Criminal Justice) (Scotland) Bill.

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You must close, please.
Graeme Pearson Lab
I would like to think that, by the end of the debate—short as it is—there will be support for the general principles of the bill at stage 1 so that it can be...
Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I commend Richard Simpson for the tenacity that he has shown over almost four years since he lodged a draft proposal for a member’s bill to prevent and tackl...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
As I am not a member of the Health and Sport Committee, members may be surprised to see me speaking. I would like to put it on the record that the deputy con...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We now move to closing speeches. 17:51
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Presiding Officer, there has been a 300 per cent increase in alcohol-related liver disease mortality over the last 30 years and over 35,000 alcohol-related s...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jackson Carlaw Con
No, I will not. We have a difficulty because we do not doubt Richard Simpson’s commitment over a great period—as he said, he was motivated to introduce the ...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
The member is closing.
Jackson Carlaw Con
Attitudes have to change, and it will take more than I have heard from the Government so far during this session of Parliament to make that happen. 17:55
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is with great regret that I rise to close the debate on behalf of the Labour Party. As Jackson Carlaw powerfully put it, alcohol continues to be one of th...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jenny Marra Lab
No—I will not at the moment, thank you. It seems that the Government has placed all its eggs in one basket, looking for a big-hit public health policy and t...
Maureen Watt SNP
I am grateful to parliamentary colleagues for their contributions to what has been an interesting, if short, debate. Members have complained about how short ...
Jenny Marra Lab
Will the minister give way?
Maureen Watt SNP
Not at the moment. We are doing lots. On the inequalities issue that Graeme Pearson highlighted, I note that the ratio for alcohol-related mortality rates b...
Dr Simpson Lab
I do not deny the progress that has been made since 2001—indeed, I will refer to that when I sum up—but I have a major concern about the budget, in which the...
Maureen Watt SNP
The member will be aware that some health boards were not passing on the justice-related money to the ADPs. We know that health boards can make up that fundi...
The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
You need to start to wind up, minister.
Maureen Watt SNP
We know about the pilot projects in Newcastle and in Fife. We are concerned that the widespread use of container marking would be disproportionate and we are...
The Presiding Officer NPA
You really need to wind up, minister.
Maureen Watt SNP
—and everybody should go and look at what Aberdeen has managed to do. It used to be a place where people would not go for a night out, and now it is very muc...