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Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
14 Nov 2007
Stobhill Hospital <br />(Parking Charges)
I hear an allegation from Cathie Craigie that it might be my mobile phone that was interfering with the sound system, but it was definitely not mine.As we enter the festive period, some of us—rather unwillingly, I must say—find ourselves in some of the shopping malls that exis...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
22 Sep 1999
Stobhill Hospital
I would like to acknowledge the fact that I am able to raise this issue in the Scottish Parliament. The Parliament is beginning to show how effective it can be for local communities; the fact that we have been able raise this issue proves that. I can assure members that the fu...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
30 Sep 2004
Health Services
I would just like to raise the Stobhill figures. Over the past year, from 2003-2004, 20 beds have been lost at Stobhill, and that has been due to consultation exercises that took place some time ago. I would like to raise a serious issue. I am not here today to defend Malcolm ...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
16 Mar 2000
Health Boards and NHS Trusts (Public Consultation)
I welcome the opportunity to exchange horror stories about Stracathro and Greater Glasgow Health Board. Primarily, I want to touch on the issue of Stobhill hospital and the similarities between the situation there and at Stracathro. The Stobhill petition raises serious concern...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Committee
05 Feb 2002
New Petitions
Wendy Johnston set out the main points in the petition. As a result of previous petitions, events took place in January and July 2001. As Wendy said, they took place in partnership with MSPs and the local community. A reconstructed process was planned to consider whether Stobh...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
18 Sep 2002
NHS Boards (Consultation)
Two processes were involved in the rerun that took place, which I know Father Dunn was involved in. The first took place at Stobhill headquarters and involved a reconstruction of the option appraisal event. The purpose was to decide whether Stobhill should have been selected a...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
18 Dec 2007
New Petitions
I want to make several points, to amplify some of Mary Murray's concerns. The petition is different from PE1086 from Chris Paterson, because it refers to the local community experience rather than the staff experience. Chris Paterson lodged an effective and comprehensive petit...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
03 Oct 2002
Coronary Heart Disease and Stroke
I welcome the tone of the minister's motion. He has accepted the many challenges that he faces, in coronary heart care in particular. He recognises the serious issues that we face in Glasgow. He is facing up to the challenges and dealing with them with the help of the action p...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Committee
12 Mar 2002
Current Petitions
I apologise for being late. I thought that the committee would discuss other petitions before discussing PE453. I waited across the road for that reason.My first point is that there were inaccuracies in the board's response. I know that the committee has had a long morning and...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
15 Apr 2008
Current Petitions
With the convener's indulgence, I will ask two further questions concerning the local community. You referred to a public meeting on the south side of Glasgow. I understand that that meeting took place at the behest of the local community and was not initiated by the health bo...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
28 Nov 2002
Acute Health Services Review (Glasgow)
I congratulate Bill Aitken on securing the debate but point out that, in his long and distinguished career, he must recall the years when Michael Forsyth, Ian Lang, Lord James Douglas-Hamilton and George Kynoch were in charge of the Scottish Office. I do not recall Ian Lang gi...
5. Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
09 Sep 1999
Question Time · Stobhill Hospital
To ask the Scottish Executive whether the Minister for Health during her visit to Stobhill hospital will meet the Medical Staff Association to discuss its concerns in connection with revised site proposals to build an ambulatory care and diagnostic unit on the grounds of Stobh...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
14 Nov 2007
Stobhill Hospital <br />(Parking Charges)
I thank all the members who supported the motion and the thousands of people from my constituency and other constituencies who signed a petition in opposition to the proposed parking charges at Stobhill hospital and who are no doubt represented in the public gallery. Interrupt...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
27 Mar 2008
SCOTTISH EXECUTIVE · NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde (Meetings)
Does the minister understand the disappointment of the community that lives in the area around Stobhill hospital about the fact that the Scottish Government has not been willing to appoint an independent scrutiny panel, which would have allowed for proper scrutiny of previous ...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
17 Sep 2009
SCOTTISH EXECUTIVE · NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde (Meetings)
Will the minister join me in recognising the hard work of the Women's Royal Voluntary Service facility at Stobhill hospital? Does she agree that the new hospital at Stobhill should include a facility that will enable the WRVS volunteers to continue their hard work?
Paul Martin (Glasgow Provan) (Lab) Lab Chamber
29 Sep 2011
Lightburn Hospital
I thank those members who have supported my motion and I welcome the save Lightburn hospital campaigners who join us in the public gallery. The debate also gives me an important opportunity to pay tribute to Gerry McCann, who has led the community campaign for Lightburn hospit...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
18 Sep 2002
NHS Boards (Consultation)
I want to ask Tim Davison about two issues relating to consultation. Karleen Collins referred to the consultation process in 1999. The local community was advised, through the local newspapers, that the proposal on the secure unit was on the table. That was in July 1999. At a ...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
20 Nov 2007
New Petitions
There is an issue in welcoming the review: is the health board willing to take notice of it? This Sunday, charges will begin in the NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde area at the Southern general, Stobhill and one other hospital.A petition about car parking charges at Stobhill by M...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
15 Apr 2008
Current Petitions
That is an important point. For any professional organisation to implement a policy it would need to be evidence based; it cannot be anecdotal. It has always been expected of me that I would return to your office with evidence of complaints that I receive. You cannot provide a...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
23 May 2001
Local Newspaper Week
I, too, congratulate Duncan McNeil on securing this debate, which recognises the role and importance of local newspapers. I will focus on a specific issue in my constituency, on which the Springburn Herald and the Glasgow Evening Times have been active: the proposed secure uni...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
03 Oct 2002
Coronary Heart Disease and Stroke
I do not think that it is appropriate to discuss the medium-secure unit now, although I would be more than happy to discuss it with Mary Scanlon later. What is at issue in this afternoon's debate is cardiac services in Glasgow and particularly at Stobhill. I ask the minister t...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
18 Dec 2007
New Petitions
John Wilson is quite correct. We should ask the newly appointed chair to give evidence on a number of issues of concern to members, to do with the interaction with the local community. The community asks why it should have to solve a problem that has been caused by its neighbo...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
03 Sep 2008
Scottish Government's Programme
I remind the minister that she signed the documentation that allowed car parking charges to be introduced at Stobhill hospital, Glasgow royal infirmary and the Southern general hospital. It is not good enough for her to provide only the information that suits her in the chambe...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
05 Feb 2002
New Petitions
Yes. The event that the community and elected members were involved in planning took place in January and August 2001. The exercise considered eight options throughout the city; there was also a status quo option to do nothing. As I said, the community became involved in a fie...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
17 Jan 2002
Freedom of Information (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I appreciate Lord James's input. He has worked closely with us on the bill. It is unfortunate that he was unable to outline his immediate concerns during stage 1. The point is simple: our local community requested information from Greater Glasgow Health Board concerning the op...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
22 May 2001
Stobhill General Hospital
Can we clarify the point that on page 13 of "Modernising Glasgow's acute hospital services"—
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
22 May 2001
Stobhill General Hospital
I am reading from "Modernising Glasgow's acute hospital services", the document that was published by Greater Glasgow Health Board.
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
19 Feb 2008
Current Petitions
The last time that the committee considered the petition, it made the good decision to call on NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde to give evidence before the committee. I understand that the health board considers that progress has been made to such an extent that there is no longe...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
30 Sep 2004
Health Services
I reiterate the point that I made earlier. I welcome the move in respect of the Queen Mother's hospital. However, if I and other representatives can present a clinical case for some form of acute service to be retained at Stobhill in partnership with the ambulatory care and di...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
03 Dec 2009
SCOTTISH EXECUTIVE · NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde(Meetings with Chief Executive)
I draw the cabinet secretary's attention to the original concept of the new Stobhill hospital, which included the delivery of chemotherapy services. Does the minister share my concern that the latest design of the hospital does not include the delivery of such services? Will s...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
02 Dec 2003
Local Governance (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
My second question is similar to the one that I asked Len Scoullar from Argyll and Bute Council. I am aware that in East Dunbartonshire you are faced with many local issues and challenges such as, for example, Stobhill hospital. Where would you place the introduction of STV in...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
05 Oct 2004
Transport (Scotland) Act 2001 Inquiry
Sylvia Jackson is saying that if you had been at the Glasgow meeting last week you would have heard a different story. George Mair touched on the need to provide social bus services, such as those to hospitals. You talk about partnership, but I have to say that in Glasgow I do...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
26 Apr 2005
Transport (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
I lodged amendment 68 for a number of reasons. At stage 1, we received representations from a number of groups that referred to a lack of co-ordination in the delivery of transport to many national health service facilities throughout Scotland. The local evidence that I receiv...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
24 Apr 2001
New Petitions
As the MSP representing the constituency that contains Stobhill hospital, I have certainly not been advised of any suspension of the outline business plan.
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Committee
08 May 2001
Current Petitions
The claim that no further decisions will be taken is untrue. I met Maggie Boyle, the chief executive of North Glasgow University Hospitals NHS Trust, which is responsible for Stobhill hospital. She advised me that they will be proceeding with a six-week consultation exercise o...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Committee
22 May 2001
Stobhill General Hospital
Can you clarify that the four acute services that you propose to conduct further consultation on, including urology, are, in fact, acute services?
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
22 May 2001
Stobhill General Hospital
Those services were included on page 13 of the acute services strategy, which was launched in 2000. Regarding the proposed concentration of services at Glasgow royal infirmary, the document asks:"Are there any persuasive and practicable alternatives to this solution?"However, ...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
22 May 2001
Stobhill General Hospital
It is the original document that was launched by Greater Glasgow Health Board.
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
22 May 2001
Stobhill General Hospital
Yes, on 29 December 2000.
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
22 May 2001
Stobhill General Hospital
I appreciate that. The point that I am making is that it was originally decided that four of those services in the Greater Glasgow Health Board area would be subject to the full acute services review.
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
22 May 2001
Stobhill General Hospital
Nevertheless, the point is very clear: "Are there any persuasive and practicable alternatives to this solution?"The public were being asked their views on 29 December. The debate will not have had the opportunity to take its full course until the outline business plan is submi...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
22 May 2001
Stobhill General Hospital
The reference group is important. Earlier, the option of closing Glasgow royal infirmary was discussed. I am asking Mr Spry for a clear yes or no answer. Would he close Glasgow royal infirmary if the reference group recommended that? Can I ask Maggie Boyle whether she would su...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
22 May 2001
Stobhill General Hospital
My question was very clear. Would you recommend that to Greater Glasgow Health Board?
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
22 May 2001
Stobhill General Hospital
Would it have the chief executive's recommendation? That is what I am asking about.
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
22 May 2001
Stobhill General Hospital
I have already made the point that I believe that we have contaminated the process by reducing the four services and deciding to go to consultation on them. It is unfortunate that we have done that. Once again, I make the point that the trust should consider awaiting the outco...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
22 May 2001
Stobhill General Hospital
It is not for me to make a recommendation, but it is for the Health and Community Care Committee to decide whether the process was contaminated. To proceed to consultation on the four services was unfortunate and should not have happened. That was meant to be the view of the m...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
22 May 2001
Stobhill General Hospital
With respect, the issue is to ensure that the acute services review is carried out properly. Initially, I signed up to the consultation process, but I will not support it now because four services have proceeded to consultation.
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
15 Apr 2008
Current Petitions
The health board said that it has introduced these charges partly because of the green transport policy. However, how does reducing the charge to a maximum of £3 help to implement that? Given that that is what a return bus journey to the south side of Glasgow costs, surely the...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
22 Sep 1999
Stobhill Hospital
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. Is it a possibility that we could have more time to address some of the points that have been made?
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
22 Sep 1999
Stobhill Hospital
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I made it clear that there were a number of questions that I wanted the minister to address. Is it possible to say that, in future, the questions should be answered first, before any historical piece on the framework of mental health? It...
9. Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
04 Nov 1999
Question Time · Stobhill Hospital
To ask the Scottish Executive whether it will call for an independent consultant to carry out a design survey regarding the proposal to reduce the size of the ambulatory care and diagnostic unit at Stobhill hospital. (S1O-521)
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
04 Nov 1999
Question Time · Stobhill Hospital
Does the minister share my concern that Mr Andy Black, the so-called independent adviser who carried out a design briefing in December, was not in fact independent and that he had tendered for the work to carry out the ACAD proposal at Stobhill hospital?
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
05 Apr 2001
Question Time · Health Boards (Capital Projects)
Does the minister share my concern that the Greater Glasgow Primary Care NHS Trust's wish to proceed with the full business case for the proposed secure unit at Stobhill hospital, despite the fact that that site is zoned for residential use—which is confirmed by correspondence...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
17 Jan 2002
Freedom of Information (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I welcome the bill and the culture of openness that it will provide. I am disappointed that the Conservatives are not able to support the bill, in particular on the day when IDS—otherwise know as Iain Duncan Smith, the Conservative leader—advises that he will improve public se...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
12 Sep 2002
Acute Services Review (Glasgow)
I welcome the minister's commitment that services will be retained for five years, but we have heard many times that services will be retained at particular facilities. Will the minister assure me that no services will be removed from Stobhill hospital during the five-year per...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
30 Sep 2004
Health Services
I will not spend too much time talking about the Tories, but I would like to make passing reference to an adjournment debate that took place on 27 May 1993. That adjournment debate, on the subject of Stobhill hospital, was raised by a close colleague of mine, Michael Martin MP...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
14 Nov 2007
Stobhill Hospital <br />(Parking Charges)
I welcome the cabinet secretary's commitment to carry out a review in respect of a number of issues, but will she examine the fact that the green transport policy will not be in place by 25 November, and if it is not, will she call on Greater Glasgow and Clyde NHS Board to wit...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
22 Nov 2007
First Minister's Question Time · Cabinet (Meetings)
This Sunday, 25 November, Greater Glasgow and Clyde NHS Board will implement a new policy of parking charges at Stobhill hospital. That is despite the fact that the Parliament's Public Petitions Committee has asked the board to delay the decision until the committee completes ...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
06 Mar 2008
First Minister's Question Time · Cabinet (Meetings)
The First Minister might be aware that next Sunday, NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde will begin charging for car parking at Stobhill hospital. That is despite the fact that the Public Petitions Committee has asked the health board to delay the implementation of charging until its...
5. Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
28 May 2009
SCOTTISH EXECUTIVE · Stobhill Hospital (Proposed Extension)
To ask the Scottish Executive how it intends to procure the proposed extension to Stobhill hospital in north Glasgow. (S3O-7114)
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Plenary, 14 Nov 2007

14 Nov 2007 · S3 · Plenary
Item of business
Stobhill Hospital <br />(Parking Charges)
Martin, Paul Lab Glasgow Springburn Watch on SPTV
I hear an allegation from Cathie Craigie that it might be my mobile phone that was interfering with the sound system, but it was definitely not mine.

As we enter the festive period, some of us—rather unwillingly, I must say—find ourselves in some of the shopping malls that exist throughout Scotland. I was recently struck by the quality of the car parking facilities in many shopping centres and by the fact that those facilities are provided free. That led me to compare the free car parking spaces in those facilities with the fact that our hospitals charge for car parking. It reflects poorly on society that people who visit relatives and staff who care for patients who are at a vulnerable period in their lives are charged to do so.

I will deal with several of the arguments that Greater Glasgow and Clyde NHS Board has presented in respect of the implementation of car parking charges at Stobhill. I was born in Stobhill hospital and have lived in the area my entire life, but I have never known a problem with car parking at the hospital. The capacity has always been sufficient and no issues have arisen with commuters abusing the car park to use it as a park-and-ride facility to travel to Glasgow city centre.

One reason that the health board has given to justify the proposals is that they would fit with the board's green transport policy. If the board cared so much about its green transport policy, why has it not put in place what is required to deliver it? Not one additional bus service will be delivered by 25 November, not one cycle shed will be in place—which is a Glasgow City Council requirement—and there will be no showering facilities for those who wish to cycle to work. The health board has implemented no element of the green transport policy.

That is another example of how Greater Glasgow and Clyde NHS Board puts its policies first and worries later about the policies that will have to follow. It is unacceptable. I call on the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing to say in her summing up that she will ensure that the health board puts in place its green transport policy before it implements the car parking charges at Stobhill hospital.

For many years, Stobhill hospital has enjoyed the support of the community and has had an effective and constructive relationship with it. However, there is already evidence that that relationship will be put at risk if the car parking charges are implemented. There is evidence that building contractors who are involved in the ambulatory care and diagnostic unit project are parking in the surrounding area and that those who wish to evade paying the charges will do likewise. Despite the fact that I, and other elected members, have made representations to senior health board staff on that issue, they have not been able to deal with it.

We are aware of the tensions that car parking can cause, particularly when people park outside their own residential area. That will be a consequence of the implementation of car parking charges at Stobhill. I call on the cabinet secretary to meet me and the local residents who will be affected, so that she can hear about the problem at first hand. I note that she visited the hospital to launch the new ACAD unit, which I welcome. However, she also has to meet the people who are concerned about this issue. I hope that she will make a commitment today to do so.

The health board has confirmed that it will make proposals for a private company to enforce the car parking policy. When the parish council built Stobhill hospital in 1899 to ensure that poor people could access health facilities, I am sure that it did not expect that 100 years later we would not only impose car parking charges on those who are already financially disadvantaged but use private companies to enforce those charges. I ask the cabinet secretary to join me in condemning such use of private contractors and to ensure that those who are already financially disadvantaged are assisted.

Far too often in members' business debates there is no clarity in the minister's response. I call on the cabinet secretary to suspend the introduction of charges at Stobhill hospital until the board's green transport plan is put in place. That point has already been made by the hospital's medical staff association. Will she review the very principle of implementing charges at Stobhill hospital? I accept that charges might have to be implemented at some sites but not at others. Greater Glasgow and Clyde NHS Board has made it clear that it will take a blanket approach to implementing charges, which is unacceptable.

Will the cabinet secretary carry out a review of the impact that charges will have on the surrounding community? The current review of hospital car parking charges is wide ranging, but it does not cover specifically the challenges that Stobhill hospital will face.

The strength of opposition to the charges is something that I have not seen since the save Stobhill campaign. A number of representations from unions, communities and elected representatives have been made. I ask the cabinet secretary to ensure that their views are considered seriously.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Trish Godman): Lab
The final item of business is a members' business debate on motion S3M-612, in the name of Paul Martin, on car parking charges at Stobhill hospital. The deba...
Motion debated,
That the Parliament notes with concern the proposal by NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde to introduce car parking charges at Stobhill Hospital later this year; r...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab
I thank all the members who supported the motion and the thousands of people from my constituency and other constituencies who signed a petition in oppositio...
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Lab
I ask members to check that their mobile phones are switched off.
Paul Martin: Lab
I hear an allegation from Cathie Craigie that it might be my mobile phone that was interfering with the sound system, but it was definitely not mine.As we en...
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Lab
Before I call other members to speak, I remind them that the debate is about parking at Stobhill hospital—the motion is quite specific.
Gil Paterson (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP
I congratulate Paul Martin on securing this debate on an important matter. I apologise to him and to members that I will have to leave when I finish speaking...
Patricia Ferguson (Glasgow Maryhill) (Lab): Lab
I congratulate Paul Martin on securing the debate. Stobhill serves his constituency, but the wider area that it serves stretches into my constituency, too. I...
Bill Kidd (Glasgow) (SNP): SNP
As we are all aware, Stobhill is only one of the hospitals where such car parking charges are being imposed. The charges are spread across Glasgow and the Bo...
Cathie Craigie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (Lab): Lab
Like other members, I congratulate Paul Martin on bringing his motion to the Parliament for debate. I acknowledge the work that he has done over the years to...
Jackson Carlaw (West of Scotland) (Con): Con
I, too, thank Paul Martin for giving us the opportunity to debate this issue. I appreciate that a review is under way. I have lodged motions in relation to S...
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Lab
Given the number of members who wish to speak, I am minded to accept a motion under rule 8.14.3, that the debate be extended by up to 30 minutes.
Motion moved,
That, under Rule 8.14.3, the debate be extended until 6.31 pm.—Paul Martin.
Motion agreed to.
Stuart McMillan (West of Scotland) (SNP): SNP
This is my first speech in the Parliament that I have not written down, so it might be a wee bit more interesting than usual. However, I guarantee that my sp...
David Whitton (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (Lab): Lab
I speak in support of the motion in Paul Martin's name. I have also supported the local petition that he organised. More than 300 of the signatures on the pe...
Bob Doris (Glasgow) (SNP): SNP
I pay tribute to Paul Martin for bringing the issue to Parliament's attention. The debate so far has been useful in shining a light on many of the problems t...
Duncan McNeil (Greenock and Inverclyde) (Lab): Lab
I thank Paul Martin for giving us the opportunity to have this debate this evening. I start with a confession: I was not born at Stobhill, or even in Glasgow...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab): Lab
I, too, congratulate Paul Martin on securing this debate. At the outset, I should make it clear that I recognise that the motion very much deals with Stobhil...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Health and Wellbeing (Nicola Sturgeon): SNP
I could be unseasonal and suggest to Jackie Baillie that it was open to the previous Administration to tackle this issue before last Christmas and that it de...
Paul Martin: Lab
I welcome the cabinet secretary's commitment to carry out a review in respect of a number of issues, but will she examine the fact that the green transport p...
Nicola Sturgeon: SNP
I will go on to talk about the review and about the timescale that I have deliberately set for it, because I understand that many car parking policies have b...
Meeting closed at 18:31.