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Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
28 Apr 2005
Managing Sex Offenders
I thank members who have supported my motion and the large number of organisations and individuals outwith Parliament who support the ethos of the motion. I also pay tribute to the courage and determination of Margaret Ann Cummings, who is with us this evening. Tragically, she...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Provan) (Lab) Lab Chamber
03 Dec 2015
Sex Offenders
I recognise that the management of sex offenders is a difficult subject that challenges politicians in many countries. As we consider that, let us also consider how Margaret Ann Cummings feels when she discusses how we manage registered sex offenders. Her son was murdered when...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Committee
08 Sep 2005
New Petitions
Thank you. I add for members' information that Margaret Ann Cummings will today present the committee with a petition containing 6,000 signatures in support of a review of the current arrangements for monitoring sex offenders.I think that there has been some misunderstanding, ...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Committee
06 Mar 2007
Child Sex Offenders
Thank you, convener. I, too, will be brief, because it is important that committee members have the opportunity to ask questions. I am sorry that I will not be able to stay for the whole meeting; the Local Government and Transport Committee is considering statutory instruments...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Provan) (Lab) Lab Chamber
15 Jun 2011
Taking Scotland Forward: Justice
I welcome the opportunity to speak in a justice debate. Unlike others who have made speeches over the past couple of weeks, this is not my maiden speech. Indeed, the subject that I will focus on—how best to manage registered sex offenders—is one that I have covered on many occ...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Committee
19 Dec 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
On behalf of Margaret Ann Cummings, I record my appreciation for the work of Jackie Baillie and the sub-committee. The feedback that I have received is that the sub-committee's attention to detail was unprecedented in the Parliament. I have known a number of members who have b...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
07 Jun 2007
Sex Offenders
I genuinely welcome that co-operation; the minister did not have to be defensive. We look forward to hearing the outcome of those discussions. Anecdotal evidence from previous cases shows that offenders such as Peter Tobin have taken advantage of the existence of different sys...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
03 Oct 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
I want to add a point on the notification issue. When someone is placed on the sex offenders register, my understanding is that that in itself is a public process because it is done through the judicial system. We act as if sex offenders are a secret that we put away somewhere...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Committee
21 Dec 2005
Current Petitions
I would like to touch on a number of issues arising from the response from the Minister for Justice. I feel that it is important to amplify, as I have done before, the concerns of Margaret Ann Cummings, who will, I hope, have a further opportunity to respond.Among the outstand...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
28 Feb 2008
Protecting Scotland's Children
There have been many well-publicised and tragic cases in England, and I will make the figures clear to Gil Paterson. The DNA database has produced matches that have allowed us to prosecute 452 homicides, 644 rapes, 222 other sex offences and 18 other violent offences. All thos...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
06 Sep 2005
Scottish Executive's Programme
Absolutely, and I will return to that point later if I have time. I agree with Pauline McNeill on a lot of issues, but I would like to clarify a point that she made about knee-jerk reactions. Mark Cummings was murdered last July. Any proposals that are made in the Parliament t...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
07 Jun 2007
Sex Offenders
I welcome the debate. It is appropriate on this occasion that there is no motion because that gives us the opportunity to work together. However, there will be healthy differences of opinion on some matters, which we can interrogate carefully.The Labour Party's position on sex...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
28 Feb 2008
Protecting Scotland's Children
In speaking to the motion on behalf of the Scottish Labour Party, I will refer to three main themes.On 15 December 2006, the Justice 2 Sub-Committee published 33 recommendations. They were reached after a comprehensive assessment of the arrangements that were in place for mana...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
The public perception—it was certainly my perception prior to the Mark Cummings tragedy—is that agencies share information, possibly with the use of a register. We are no further forward on that. No housing agency has told me that it has access to a register that provides info...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Committee
03 Oct 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
It might be helpful for Professor Spencer to examine the quite detailed information that is provided by the 50 states in the United States. As recently as this morning, I looked at what is available there as a result of the way in which Megan's law is enforced. Specific inform...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
05 Jun 2002
Prison Estates Review
You referred to other programmes for sex offenders. We understand that the STOP programme is geared towards the treatment of serious sex offenders who are imprisoned for four years or more. Do you have views on what treatment should be made available in the Scottish Prison Ser...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
03 Oct 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
All disclosure systems that operate in other parts of the world adopt a blanket approach. I live in Scotland, but I can access information about sex offenders in Ohio. Specific information is provided on the internet regardless of any radius that might be in operation. We need...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
03 Oct 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
To add to that, prior to the Stuart Leggate case and the tragedy of young Mark, I had the perception that housing organisations were closely involved in the process—I am sure that Margaret Ann Cummings thought that, too. We all thought that when a sex offender as dangerous as ...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
10 Feb 2005
SCOTTISH EXECUTIVE · Sex Offenders
I have two questions for the minister. First, does she agree that we need to consider how we manage sex offenders, instead of allowing them to manage the system? Secondly, does she accept that there is a need to train a wide range of agencies and staff who deal with sex offend...
Paul Martin Lab Chamber
10 Sep 2015
General Question Time · Registered Sex Offenders (GPS Tracking)
I am disappointed by the minister’s response because the technology for GPS systems to track registered sex offenders has existed for some years and I understand that there is evidence to prove that they are effective. I refer the minister to the Justice Sub-Committee on Poli...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
Let me take one specific example. The Cosgrove report recommended:"The Scottish Executive and the local authorities, in consultation with community organisations, should devise a public information strategy on child sexual abuse and prepare and publish information on the follo...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab) Lab Chamber
23 Feb 2011
Public Petitions Committee
I commend, as others have, the work of the Public Petitions Committee not only this session but since 1999. A number of members have already illustrated the committee’s successes during that period.I also pay tribute to the committee members for their hard work. It is recognis...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
I have a question on disclosure. Can the minister confirm that, when an offender is placed on the sex offenders register, through the judicial process, that is a public process? When someone is placed on the register, there is no secret court that disposes of them so that thei...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
You said that 25 sex offenders were unaccounted for. Do you accept that the figure could be higher than that? Offenders do not report to police stations every day. That figure reflects only the number of cases in which the police have gone to look for an offender and have not ...
Paul Martin Lab Chamber
03 Dec 2015
Sex Offenders
The report also said that sex offenders could expect a monitoring visit once a month. Is that acceptable for the most serious offenders?
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
My perception is that, before the Mark Cummings case, we carefully placed offenders in particular communities, but now we cannot tell offenders where they must live. Are we going to legislate to provide a situation in which we manage offenders and tell them where they will liv...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
12 Nov 2002
Alternatives to Custody Inquiry
With respect, the point that I am making is that no scientific process shows where, for example, 500 offenders who were referred to programmes in Glasgow five years ago are now. To know how effective the car that you bought a year ago is, you wait for a year and consider how t...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
08 Jan 2009
Offender Management Plan
I note that in his document entitled, "Protecting Scotland's Communities", the Cabinet Secretary for Justice wants to ensure that our communities"feel as safe and crime free as possible."The Labour Party is arguing that scrapping six-month sentences just does not equate to pro...
Paul Martin Lab Chamber
11 Nov 2010
Scottish Executive Question Time · Child Sex Offenders (Management)
Six years after the tragic murder of Mark Cummings by the convicted sex offender Stuart Leggate, we have moved on. I welcome the cross-party consensus on the issue.I am not convinced that there is an argument against registered sex offenders providing that information when the...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Committee
30 May 2006
Petition
As the committee will know, Margaret Ann Cummings—who is here today—submitted her petition on 7 June last year. She has followed its progress closely. Although it is recognised that the Executive has responded to the petition in legislation, there are a number of outstanding i...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
30 May 2006
Petition
I will clarify what I said. Housing allocation is an issue for the Communities Committee, but the release programme for sex offenders is a justice issue. There is a crossover, but the primary issue is the monitoring process that is followed on the release of registered sex off...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
03 Oct 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
Sara Payne went through the same experience as Margaret Ann. When she met the Minister for Justice and members, she said that she had found the system in Canada—the buddy system—to be the most effective way of monitoring individuals. Coming from Sara Payne, that speaks volumes...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
The Cosgrove report, which was published in 2001, includes a number of recommendations on education, some of which are quite explicit. For example, it recommended:"Learning and Teaching Scotland and Community Learning Scotland should prepare comprehensive personal safety mater...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
26 Jun 2007
Scottish Executive Priorities
Finally, what additional legislation will come forward on the management of registered sex offenders? In particular, the SNP manifesto stated:"If a child goes missing, then there will be a tough response with sex offenders in the area visited, and if necessary premises searche...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
08 Sep 2005
New Petitions
There are websites in the United States that list the names and addresses of a number of convicted sex offenders. The process is open, although I accept that the environment in those areas might be different from that in our communities. That issue would have to be addressed.I...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
25 Nov 2004
First Minister's Question Time · Children and Communities<br />(Protection from Registered Sex Offenders)
I welcome the commitments that the First Minister and the Minister for Justice have given. I seek assurances from the First Minister that the Executive will keep an open mind in dealing with a number of issues that local communities have raised. I refer in particular to housin...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
21 Feb 2008
First Minister's Question Time · Sex Offenders (Monitoring)
I am sure that the First Minister agrees that registered sex offenders are among the most dangerous individuals on our planet and that we should not rule out any measure to ensure maximum protection for our communities. Does the First Minister support the pilot schemes in Engl...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
28 May 2009
Missing Children Alert System
On behalf of Scottish Labour, I commend the Scottish Liberal Democrats for securing the debate. There is no doubt that the Amber alert system has great merit and would make a difference to the protection of children from people who pose a threat to community safety.A great ach...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Provan) (Lab) Lab Chamber
22 Nov 2012
General Question Time · Sex Offenders
2. To ask the Scottish Government how many of the 33 recommendations in the Justice 2 Sub-Committee’s report, “Justice System (Child-Sex Offenders)”, on managing registered sex offenders have been delivered since 10 May 2007. (S4O-01517)
Paul Martin Lab Chamber
16 Jan 2014
General Question Time · Sex Offenders (Management)
The committee’s recommendation 20 refers to a requirement being placed on registered sex offenders to disclose the information that they are registered sex offenders during the housing application process. The cabinet secretary advises that he has received ECHR legal guidance ...
Paul Martin Lab Chamber
10 Mar 2016
General Question Time · Sex Offenders (Monitoring)
I do not want to be directed to a website; I want the specific figure. I advise the cabinet secretary that the latest figures provided by the Scottish Government show that convictions of sex offenders for offences against children have trebled over the past three years. Is the...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
I am sorry to persist, but the point is important. The fact that offenders do not, as people think, report to police stations every day means that the figure could be much higher. Given that it is only when an offender is looked for that we find out that they are missing, we c...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
A disproportionate number of offenders end up in areas where there is low demand for housing. In the Mark Cummings case, Stuart Leggate was housed in the area not due to a lifestyle choice but because no other area had such a low demand for housing that people could be housed ...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
25 Jun 2002
Alternatives to Custody Inquiry
I think that it is a missed opportunity, given that we will be discussing alternatives to custody for adult offenders. That discussion would be affected by our discussions about youth offenders at the same time. One of the reasons why they end up being adult offenders is that ...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
19 Jun 2008
Youth Justice
I need not say anything else. The point has been well made.The youth justice system must not ignore the genuine concerns of communities that have to endure the actions of those who persistently reoffend. In many communities, young offenders have been given second, third, fourt...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
07 May 2009
Community Courts
We have consistently argued, during many justice debates, that offenders must be dealt with robustly. We have also stressed the need for communities to have confidence in the justice system and for rehabilitation opportunities to be provided to offenders. As many members have ...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
03 Oct 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
Margaret Ann elaborates on tariffs in her petition. When a sex offence is committed against a child, the child is at a great disadvantage because they do not have the maturity to be able to make the decisions that an adult might make. We have always argued that offences agains...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
28 Oct 2004
First Minister's Question Time · Cabinet (Meetings)
Does the First Minister support the call for an inquiry into the circumstances of the tragic murder of Mark Cummings by child sex offender Stuart Leggate? Does he also recognise that there is a need for a wide-ranging review of how we deal with convicted child sex offenders an...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
14 Nov 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
But, in a sophisticated age, if a person is released in three years' time, the community could well ask for their name by means of a freedom of information request. There are only so many people of a certain name, although I appreciate that the community might not get the addr...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
16 Jun 2005
Management of Offenders etc (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I have asked the minister before about a number of reviews of housing allocation in respect of registered sex offenders. I ask him, once and for all, whether we will reach a stage at which a policy is in place for all authorities in Scotland in respect of that allocation.
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Chamber
14 May 2009
First Minister's Question Time · Operation Algebra
The First Minister will be aware of the 33 recommendations of the Justice 2 Sub-Committee in the previous session in connection with managing registered sex offenders. How many of those 33 recommendations have been responded to by the Government? Will the First Minister commit...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
12 Nov 2002
Alternatives to Custody Inquiry
You have referred many young offenders and other offenders to a particular programme. Can you provide evidence that shows where all the offenders are now, five years after the offence?
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Committee
06 Feb 2007
Prostitution (Public Places) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Amendment 5 would increase the sentencing tariffs that are available to sheriffs and raise the fines for those involved in kerb-crawling activities from the current level 2 to level 3. That would effectively double the fining opportunities and sentencing tariffs that are avail...
Paul Martin: Lab Chamber
12 Feb 2009
Sexual Offences (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Margo MacDonald makes a good point. Sometimes we in this chamber have to show humility and say that we are not very good at consulting young people and I am sure that other committee members agree that we need to be more effective at communicating with young people. I assure M...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
05 Jun 2002
Prison Estates Review
Alec Spencer of the SPS confirmed that there is to be a review of the future management of sex offenders. Have you been involved in that review?
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
11 Jun 2002
Prison Estates Review
Professor Marshall has suggested that the Scottish Prison Service should consider a separate monoculture facility in the central belt for short-term sex offenders, in addition to the retention of Peterhead for long-term prisoners. What do your experience and research make you ...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab Committee
13 Jun 2006
Petition
I thank the committee and, in particular, the convener and the deputy convener, who met the Minister for Parliamentary Business to discuss the petition.I have a suggestion about how we can make progress and do all the things that are helpfully suggested in paragraph 25 of the ...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
03 Oct 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
We must develop a strategy. Unfortunately, now more than ever children have had to become aware of the challenges that they face both within the family and externally. As a Parliament and a community, we must decide how we want to address that issue. That can be difficult, bec...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
03 Oct 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
I return to a point that was made earlier. If anything is to come out of this sub-committee, it should be a recommendation to encourage the Executive to bring forward a national campaign. The Executive would have to do that sensitively. As Margaret Ann said, some parents want ...
Paul Martin: Lab Committee
03 Oct 2006
Child Sex Offenders Inquiry
I am not sure; we have to investigate what the public appetite for information would be in a country the size of Scotland.Some people are very sophisticated in using computers to access information, but some people are not. If there were a family in my constituency with learni...
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Plenary, 28 Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 · S2 · Plenary
Item of business
Managing Sex Offenders
Martin, Paul Lab Glasgow Springburn Watch on SPTV
I thank members who have supported my motion and the large number of organisations and individuals outwith Parliament who support the ethos of the motion. I also pay tribute to the courage and determination of Margaret Ann Cummings, who is with us this evening. Tragically, she lost her son, Mark Cummings, who was murdered by Stuart Leggate, a registered child sex offender. I commend her patient and constructive approach to ensuring that lessons are learned from the tragic murder of her son.

I want to highlight several issues. First, I will consider how the housing allocation system deals with registered child sex offenders—I stress "registered". There is a myth that registered sex offenders are carefully managed in the housing allocation process and that housing providers are informed of the history of such offenders. I am sorry to inform members that that is not the case. Stuart Leggate, who had served two years of a four-year sentence for sex acts against children, was able to choose to live in the Royston area of Glasgow. He was not managed through the housing allocation process and he was housed in an area that has a high population of young children, and within 100yd of a nursery and two primary schools.

When someone has been convicted of sex acts against children, they should forgo many of the life choices that are available to law-abiding citizens, including the choice of where to reside. We need to create a rigid and efficient environment to ensure that we manage sex offenders and that they do not manage us during the process.

The minister should ensure that legislation is introduced to establish a structure that will deliver the basic requirement of managing sex offenders through the housing allocation process while dealing with sex offenders' being able to assume aliases. It is unacceptable that both Ian Huntley and Stuart Leggate assumed aliases. Parliament should investigate a possible partnership with Westminster to consider withdrawing the right to an alias.

I will refer to sentencing policy. Stuart Leggate served two years of a four-year sentence for sex acts against young children. It is unacceptable that he should be released only two years into his sentence. Many academics and world-renowned experts on the subject tell us that dealing with registered sex offenders is a difficult and complex issue—I agree with them all. Why, in that case, should we release sex offenders halfway through their sentences?

We should significantly increase the sentencing tariffs that are available to sheriffs in respect of registered child sex offenders. Moreover, a life sentence should mean life for individuals who have shown during the process that they are not capable of being treated. I ask the minister to respond to the specific question of how we can ensure that tariffs are increased.

On neighbourhood notification, much has been said about how we notify communities of the presence of child sex offenders. A lot has also been said about vigilantes. I do not represent a community of vigilantes; I represent hard-working men and women who wish to live in harmony in their communities, and who care deeply for the safety of their young children. There have been no vigilantes in Royston. Although there are examples of vigilante action, we are dealing with people who want to work constructively with the authorities to examine ways in which they can protect their children.

I have always maintained that to take this issue forward, we, as elected members, should not be so arrogant as to dismiss any opportunity that is presented to us on the ways in which we can protect children from registered child sex offenders. The Executive should at least investigate opportunities that are available to it worldwide, and it should examine international examples of cases in which information on registered sex offenders has been shared with communities. The intention would be to use the information in a controlled and responsible environment, in which the safety of the child is paramount.

An issue also arises in respect of how we share information, not only with communities but with authorities such as housing authorities. The fact that this gift is in the possession of only the police authorities is unacceptable. We have to consider the various authorities that deal with sex offenders, sometimes indirectly, and we must ensure that relevant and accurate information is provided to them.

We hear far too much about information-sharing partnerships and the existing partnerships that are in place. We should introduce legislation to ensure that information partnerships are established to deal with how we share information on registered sex offenders.

It is important that we learn from the experience of young Mark's death. Margaret Ann Cummings has made it very clear that she does not want a blame culture to follow Mark's death, but a culture in which all of us accept with humility that we could have got it much more right than we did. Let us show humility and introduce a "Mark's law" that will ensure that everything possible is done to protect our future generations.

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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Murray Tosh): Con
The final item of business today is a members' business debate on motion S2M-2573, in the name of Paul Martin, on reviewing arrangements for managing sex off...
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Paul Martin (Glasgow Springburn) (Lab): Lab
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Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con): Con
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Stewart Stevenson (Banff and Buchan) (SNP): SNP
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Elaine Smith (Coatbridge and Chryston) (Lab): Lab
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Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green): Green
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The Deputy Minister for Justice (Hugh Henry): Lab
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Patrick Harvie: Green
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Mr Kenny MacAskill (Lothians) (SNP): SNP
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The Deputy Minister for Justice (Hugh Henry): Lab
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Mary Scanlon: Con
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Hugh Henry: Lab
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Paul Martin: Lab
Will Hugh Henry give way?
Hugh Henry: Lab
Yes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Con
You are definitely over time, minister, but I will allow one more intervention and then a quick summation.
Paul Martin: Lab
I will ask the minister about two points. First, will he make representations on the tariffs that are available to sheriffs? Secondly, will he legislate on h...
Hugh Henry: Lab
I will certainly ensure that the comments about housing are passed to my colleagues who deal with that issue.Paul Martin knows that we have asked the Sentenc...
Meeting closed at 17:56.