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Mike Watson: Lab Chamber
28 Jun 2001
Budget Process 2002-03
I accept that that was part of the Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee's report. Obviously, my quotes are selective, but I will deal with transparency later. Alex Neil's points fall under that heading.There was evidence that information had been either incomplete or ina...
Mike Watson: Lab Chamber
28 Jun 2001
Budget Process 2002-03
Yes; I am resigned to the fact that I had to admit that at some stage in my political life. Seriously—I tell Annabel Goldie that that is as good as it gets—we are into the second full year of the budget process, which means that we are now able to compare like with like. It is...
Mike Watson: Lab Chamber
13 Dec 2000
Budget Process 2001-02: Stage 2
Thank you.This may not be startlingly original—indeed, I made similar comments when I introduced the stage 1 debate in the chamber on 28 June—but we are, in this process and in today's debate, indulging in what might loosely be termed groundbreaking stuff. We are two thirds of...
Mike Watson: Lab Chamber
13 Dec 2000
Budget Process 2001-02: Stage 2
I very much agree with what Andrew Wilson has said, which reflects the view of the committee. There was no division or difference of opinion on that matter among committee members. I cannot speak for the minister, but he will have an opportunity in due course to respond to tho...
The Convener: Lab Committee
08 Jun 2001
Budget Process 2002-03
Before I begin the questioning, I should indicate that in my opening remarks I was remiss in two areas. First, I should have recorded the apologies of Andrew Wilson. Secondly, I should have warmly welcomed members of the public who are with us today. It is important that Scotl...
Mike Watson (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab Chamber
28 Jun 2000
Budget Process 2001-02
The Scottish Parliament is officially one year old this week. The past year has been historic, marked—naturally enough—by a long line of firsts. Today's debate marks yet another first and it is one of the most important. It is important because it is self-evident that scrutiny...
The Convener: Lab Committee
13 Mar 2001
Budget Process 2002-03
We move swiftly on to item 6. The letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government, in response to my letter on improving the annual expenditure report, relates to this item. The letter looks rather like a company's profits warning—not because it warns about profits, ...
Mike Watson: Lab Chamber
14 Nov 2002
National Cultural Strategy
I am happy to pay tribute to Ken Loach, Paul Lavery and, of course, to Martin Compston, as well as to everyone else who was involved in making the film such a success. My view is that local authorities should make use of the powers that they have to ensure that people under th...
The Convener: Lab Committee
16 May 2000
National Parks (Scotland) Bill
We are required only to note that there will be an expenditure requirement from the Scottish consolidated fund as a result of the bill's being passed. However, both David and Keith have raised important points about that expenditure; the committee can ask for clarification on ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
13 Feb 2001
Resource Accounting<br />and Budgeting
It may be difficult to relate the two substantially different approaches that you are taking, but in your paper, Dr Shaoul, you said that the question of capital charging and so on"challenges the myth of public sector management inefficiency."When you talked about an increase ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
13 Mar 2001
Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body (Expenditure Plan)
Item 4 is the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body's provisional expenditure plan for 2002-03. The letter from the Presiding Officer is quite clear. He highlights the increase of about £9.7 million from the estimate that we received from the corporate body last year. He goes ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
13 Nov 2001
Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Budget 2002-03
I note that, on page 2 of his letter, under the heading "Revenue Expenditure", Sir David Steel says that"revenue expenditure is forecast to be … £2.7m above our provisional expenditure plan"and that the move to Holyrood will account for the bulk of that. However, the second pa...
Mike Watson: Lab Chamber
28 Jun 2000
Budget Process 2001-02
Indeed—I am not restricting in any sense the size of the halls or community centres concerned. Wherever the public are able to access their finance minister, that access has to be a positive sign. I do not think it unfair to say that the fact that the subject committees said l...
Mike Watson: Lab Committee
30 Oct 2001
Consultative Steering Group Principles Inquiry
The question of the amount of time is difficult because there is not a lot of room for manoeuvre. With an annual budget process, there are certain deadlines for the production of the annual expenditure report. The stage 1 consultation and report must be completed, debates and ...
Mike Watson: Lab Committee
04 Nov 2003
Work Programme
I have a similar view. After three years, it is appropriate to examine the strategy, but an annual report on the strategy is published—the third one should be out now or very shortly, as in the past two years the report certainly came out in October. As part of a review, we mi...
The Convener: Lab Committee
07 Dec 1999
Expenditure Plans (2000-01)
You have had a briefing paper on the 2000-01 expenditure plans. We want to try to pull something from the briefing with Brian Ashcroft and Stephen Boyle that we had three weeks ago and prepare ourselves for next week's meeting with the Minister for Finance.I have been asked to...
The Convener: Lab Committee
07 Dec 1999
Expenditure Plans (2000-01)
Andrew raised the third bullet point. John has now raised the first one. I think that we accept that those should be the subject of a question to the minister. Does anyone want to comment on any other points in the expenditure proposals report or to raise any other issues?
The Convener: Lab Committee
07 Dec 1999
Written Agreements (Scottish Executive)
We are getting bogged down in this discussion and we must try to draw things together. We want to agree on the format of the budget documents. The document says:"FIAG considered what information should be put before the Parliament to support Budget Bills. The Group recommended...
The Convener: Lab Committee
14 Dec 1999
Expenditure Plans (2000-01)
I reconvene the 10th meeting of the Finance Committee by welcoming the Minister for Finance, Jack McConnell, who will give evidence this morning on the budget expenditure plans.Minister, your letter dated 9 November said that the committee would receive further detailed explan...
The Convener: Lab Committee
14 Dec 1999
Expenditure Plans (2000-01)
We may revisit that issue in a year's time. We want to make sense of planned expenditure, which is difficult to do without details of the outturns.
The Convener: Lab Committee
07 Mar 2000
Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Budget
Item 3 is the initial budget proposal for the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body. There is a further letter from Sir David Steel on this. I think that, at this stage, we only need to note that the Executive received the SPCB expenditure proposals. Members will note that, in...
The Convener: Lab Committee
16 May 2000
European Structural Funds
I would like to ask a question about the mechanism. You say in your briefing:"Grant money from the European Commission does not become public expenditure until it is drawn from the suspense accounts . . . and paid over to project sponsors."The briefing talks later about the fa...
The Convener: Lab Committee
20 Nov 2000
Budget Process
You might want to deal with a point that is related to the reserve, because the committee also asked for an explanation of unallocated annually managed expenditure.After looking at table 2 of "Making a Difference", one is tempted to ask, "What is the difference between unalloc...
The Convener: Lab Committee
13 Mar 2001
Audit Scotland (Expenditure Plan)
Agenda item 5 is Audit Scotland's provisional expenditure plan. The issues that relate to the plan are similar to those that we just discussed. The figure for Audit Scotland's funding requirement has slightly reduced. We shall ask to be kept informed. Does anyone have any poin...
The Convener: Lab Committee
24 Apr 2001
Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body (Expenditure Plan 2002-03)
Item 4 concerns the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body's provisional expenditure plans. Members will recall that at the end of March I wrote to Sir David Steel on behalf of the committee about the capital charges element of the SPCB's budget. We asked for a breakdown of the...
Mike Watson: Lab Chamber
13 Dec 2000
Budget Process 2001-02: Stage 2
I accept that point; I will come on to address it. We must find a means of ensuring that the difficulties that emerged this year do not recur. Of course we are aware that every two years—or possibly every three years—similar problems will arise, and we must find a way out of t...
Mike Watson: Lab Chamber
25 Jan 2001
Budget (Scotland) (No 2) Bill: Stage 1
I hope that the Presiding Officer will be tolerant and allow me to answer that point, although it does not relate directly to today's debate—but why should I break the afternoon's trend? I will quote to David Davidson what his mentor Michael Portillo said about Labour's spendi...
Mike Watson: Lab Committee
30 Apr 2002
Budget Process 2003-04
I am keen to do that. I do not want to bang a drum too loudly but, when I was convener of the Finance Committee, we encouraged all the committees to introduce or develop mechanisms to show the gender impact of planned spending. I am doing that within the portfolio for which I ...
Mike Watson: Lab Committee
05 Oct 2004
Further and Higher Education (Scotland) Bill
Wherever the idea came from, I am pleased to see it included in the bill.My second point relates to the Scottish public services ombudsman. The financial memorandum states: "The Ombudsman's office has calculated the likely cost implications for 2005/06 to be in the order of £5...
The Convener: Lab Committee
07 Sep 1999
Mental Health (Public Safety and Appeals) (Scotland) Bill
This is not a normal situation: we are considering emergency legislation that incurs additional expenditure. Normally, we will study legislation that forms part of the Executive programme and it will be clear where the money will come from and it will be budgeted in the annual...
The Convener: Lab Committee
14 Mar 2000
Scottish Executive Finance Functions
Thank you. Your two suggestions are particularly helpful. You touched on the sensitive subject of policy and have been open in saying that the Treasury has a role in that. How does the Treasury affect policy decisions without the input of the Chancellor of the Exchequer and th...
The Convener: Lab Committee
24 Apr 2001
Budget Process 2002-03
I hope that members have with them their copies of the complete and the abbreviated versions of the annual expenditure report. Murray McVicar, from the Scottish Parliament information centre, has provided a copy of his paper on the AER, which it would be helpful if he would ta...
The Convener: Lab Committee
22 May 2001
Budget Process 2002-03
Agenda item 2 is on the annual expenditure report. I hope that colleagues have brought their copies as the agenda asked them to. We have with us Professor Brian Ashcroft and Alex Christie, who have given us a paper on the AER. I understand that Professor Ashcroft would like to...
The Convener: Lab Committee
22 May 2001
Budget Process 2002-03
I thank the witnesses. That session completes this part of our deliberation on the annual expenditure report.
The Convener: Lab Committee
05 Jun 2001
Budget Process 2002-03
I will start by commenting on that general point. Like David Davidson, I was excluded from the justice committees' consideration of their report and was not given sight of a draft of it. Like him, I thought that standing orders precluded our being present during the private pa...
The Convener: Lab Committee
05 Jun 2001
Budget Process 2002-03
I am not sure that the process is a failure. It is partly to do with confidence building, familiarity with the process, and having sufficient time to go into that sort of detail. Very clear thought is required. Committees should now be thinking of the budget process for next y...
The Convener (Mike Watson): Lab Committee
08 Jun 2001
Budget Process 2002-03
I welcome everyone. Those who are involved both directly and indirectly in politics in Scotland would probably, in an ideal situation, have found other things to do, but we are under pressure because of the timing of the annual expenditure report and the budget process. We are...
The Convener: Lab Committee
08 Jun 2001
Budget Process 2002-03
The Transport and the Environment Committee's report on the budget process says:"The Committee is uncertain as to whether rail spending in the budget is sufficient to meet anticipated future development of the rail network".I am not asking you to comment specifically on that, ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
23 Oct 2001
Budget Process 2002-03
Before the witnesses answer that question, I will ask another. I would have thought that the draft action plan, which was published at the end of last year, would have been pretty important in determining objectives and what the modernising government fund and the 21st century...
The Convener: Lab Committee
19 Nov 2001
Budget Process 2002-03
Thank you, minister. The committee agrees that over the past two years considerable improvements have been made. It is very pleasing to hear you presage the changes that will be made in the 2002 annual expenditure report.You talked about achieving consistency in the presentati...
Mike Watson: Lab Committee
30 Oct 2001
Consultative Steering Group Principles Inquiry
On the second point, the committees' reports improved slightly from the first year. I put that down largely to the use of budget advisers. Anne Peat will correct me if I am wrong, but I think that the committees that used budget advisers produced more detailed reports, which i...
Mike Watson: Lab Committee
30 Oct 2001
Consultative Steering Group Principles Inquiry
We undertook an inquiry into resource accounting and budgeting. The report is available and it would assist understanding, but it is not a straightforward subject for someone who is not an accountant. There are still areas that people need to read two or three times to make su...
Mike Watson: Lab Committee
05 Apr 2000
Scottish Criminal Record Office Checks
One of my questions has also been answered. I would like to ask about costs. I was surprised by the percentage that Mr Duffy mentioned in respect of the Scout Association and the figure of £70,000. Does £70,000 represent 30 per cent of your annual expenditure?
The Minister for Tourism, Culture and Sport (Mike Watson): Lab Chamber
13 Feb 2003
Tourism
I should like to thank the Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee for the opportunity to speak on its report. I am glad that the committee chose Scotland's biggest business sector as suitable for an in-depth inquiry.When the committee began its work last year, tourism in S...
Mike Watson: Lab Committee
20 Apr 2004
Budget Process 2005-06
The other point relates to targets. Your submission states:"Development of targets and monitoring achievement is an area of concern which we are currently working on."It also states:"Targets are monitored by a number of means",including "annual forum events". What are the prob...
Mike Watson: Lab Committee
26 Oct 2004
Arts in the Community Inquiry
When is the latest annual report on the national cultural strategy due to be published? I do not want you to pre-empt that report, but what, in general terms, will it say about community art in its various forms? I hope that future annual reports will take account of what the ...
Mike Watson: Lab Committee
11 Dec 2002
Tourism Inquiry
I am pleased to give further evidence to the committee's tourism inquiry. I know that some committee members thought that I should have mentioned the restructuring of the British Tourist Authority at the meeting on 30 October. I considered mentioning it and, given that it was ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
07 Dec 1999
Annual Budget Process
We have had two briefing papers on items 4 and 5. We will begin with item 4, on the annual budget process. Members will have seen the paper, which sets out a proposal for a framework to involve the subject committees. It seems to be fairly clear and logical. Do members wish to...
The Convener: Lab Committee
21 Mar 2000
Scottish Executive Finance Functions
We will bear that last comment in mind. Your memorandum talks about the annual public spending round. I suspect that, during the last few months of your tenure, and following the comprehensive spending review, the move towards public service agreements and a three-year budget ...
Mike Watson (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab Chamber
30 Sep 1999
Public Finance and Accountability (Scotland) Bill
I shall preface my remarks with a comment that, to some extent, reflects what Keith Raffan said. As we begin the development of the first Government legislation in the Parliament, we might reflect on how our deliberations are covered in the media and the importance that they a...
Mike Watson: Lab Committee
07 Oct 2003
Budget Process 2004-05
I take comfort from those comments.I was surprised to find that Scottish Enterprise's budget shows a decrease over the current period. I know that the organisation has not been without its difficulties; however, it plays a fundamental role in taking forward the policies that a...
Mike Watson: Lab Committee
18 Nov 2003
Scottish Solutions Inquiry
I would not expect you to look that far ahead, although most people would think that it would be reasonable for the minister with responsibility for higher education to argue the case that we are talking about, given the relative position between Scotland and England. Paragrap...
Mike Watson: Lab Committee
26 Oct 2004
Budget Process 2005-06
I will take your comments at face value and suggest that if that heading is misleading, we should have it in future in a form that is not misleading. The Executive has already accepted that Careers Scotland should be detached from this particular heading. Will you break the he...
Mike Watson: Lab Committee
11 Dec 2002
Tourism Inquiry
The question relates to the extent to which the BTA's work for Scotland can be evaluated. The BTA spends about £5 million on Scotland's behalf and I do not think that a change has to be made. The Barnett formula applies only to year-on-year increases in the departmental expend...
The Convener: Lab Committee
07 Sep 1999
Mental Health (Public Safety and Appeals) (Scotland) Bill
It is not unreasonable to expect that there will be a report on the costs, savings and additional expenditure across the board.
The Convener: Lab Committee
07 Sep 1999
Mental Health (Public Safety and Appeals) (Scotland) Bill
Given that the Audit Committee looks back on spending, I think that that is the case. The clerk has just reminded me that there will be an opportunity at stage 2 for members to lodge amendments to probe the figures. The Executive might be able to give more precise estimates th...
The Convener: Lab Committee
07 Sep 1999
Mental Health (Public Safety and Appeals) (Scotland) Bill
Because this is emergency legislation, the finance motion has been published in time for us to consider it. That may not always happen. There is no requirement in the standing orders for the motion to be published at a certain time, other than prior to stage 2; it could be pub...
The Convener: Lab Committee
14 Sep 1999
Public Finance and Accountability (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
That is an issue of the moment, in as much as there is the suggestion of increased expenditure from the Scotland Office, where that money comes from; as is whether we will have the chance to express a view on it. I note what you say. Does anyone want to comment on that matter ...
The Convener: Lab Committee
26 Oct 1999
Scottish Executive (Written Agreements)
We have already agreed to ask the corporate body for a report and, if necessary, to question its members. In the meantime, are we suggesting that paragraph 16 be taken out? We need to have an agreement that we should be able to look at the effect of stage 1 and 2 expenditure p...
The Convener: Lab Committee
26 Oct 1999
Scottish Executive (Written Agreements)
I do not regard that sentence as a constraint. We can have the minister here whenever we think it appropriate. If there was an impasse, we would expect the minister to come to the committee and to try to resolve the situation.The next document under consideration is FI/99/5/4,...
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Plenary, 28 Jun 2001

28 Jun 2001 · S1 · Plenary
Item of business
Budget Process 2002-03
Watson, Mike Lab Glasgow Cathcart Watch on SPTV
I accept that that was part of the Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee's report. Obviously, my quotes are selective, but I will deal with transparency later. Alex Neil's points fall under that heading.

There was evidence that information had been either incomplete or inadequate or had not been supplied and that there was a lack of indicators in some departmental figures. That made it difficult to compare policy objectives and targets. The Finance Committee regards such evidence as a flaw in the budget process and we expect the various departments to overcome those problems for next year's annual expenditure report.

One means of doing so would be for the various departments to present information in a standardised form. We urge the Minister for Finance and Local Government to take steps to convince his cabinet colleagues of the need for that. This year's summary document—which is a welcome departure—showed evidence of such a co-ordinated approach among departments and we look forward to that being extended to the full report next year.

Given our determination to bring about improvements in the content of the annual expenditure report, the committee was naturally concerned about what we regard as a step backwards in respect of the provision of information relating to private finance initiative and public-private partnership projects. The disappearance of the table on capital spending by the private sector on such projects, which featured last year, is unhelpful. No doubt the table will be reinstated.

The concerns that we expressed in our report about the transparency of funding of such projects reflect comments that were made in the Health and Community Care Committee and the Transport and the Environment Committee reports. The Finance Committee's wider interest in that area is reflected in the fact that we have just commenced our own inquiry into PFIs and PPPs. The report that we produce will recommend means of providing budget information that will ensure transparency on the capital and servicing costs of such projects.

On the content of the annual expenditure report, the committee believes that transparency and accountability would be enhanced if in future all sources of income were clearly shown. We have asked for the inclusion of tables that show consequentials from the comprehensive spending review, the UK budgets and Barnett, plus end-year flexibility and Scottish and UK reserves. The committee sees that as a logical and sensible development of the presentation of information.

The committee welcomes the Executive's eagerness to move to outcome-based budgeting. The ability to quantify the effectiveness of spending needs to progress from the short-term, and often misleading, measure of outputs to a longer-term evaluation. Simply to announce, for example, the recruitment of 1,000 more teachers is a limited barometer of success; indeed, it may not be much of a success at all and proper evaluation of the efficacy of such an increase in numbers may need to be delayed for several years, perhaps until evidence of, for example, an increase in the number of pupils remaining at school after 16 or achieving a college or university place filters through the system. Outputs are not sufficient—we are looking for outcomes and we welcome the Executive's support on that.

Such is the committee's belief in outcomes as a form of measurement that we have commissioned external research to examine methods by which that can be achieved most effectively. We accept that that is a medium-term goal, but we nevertheless expect to see incremental improvements year on year, which is why we ask the Executive to publish plans on how it intends to achieve those improvements.

In the debate on last year's stage 1 report, the Finance Committee urged the Executive to carry out

"a gender audit across spending programmes to assess their overall impact on women and to identify desired outcomes so that we know what the Scottish Executive or individual departments want to achieve".—[Official Report, 28 June 2000; Vol 7, c 785-86.]

A year later, we are no further forward in having that aim met.

As part of this year's process, the Equal Opportunities Committee report—which was, I think, the most voluminous of all the committee reports—was most critical of the Executive's performance. In evidence, that committee had heard witnesses who saw no evidence of a gender impact analysis whatever. Another opined:

"a commitment to gender awareness—never mind gender equality—is so visibly lacking in the budget document."—[Official Report, Equal Opportunities Committee, 1 May 2001; c 1209.]

In addition, the Social Justice Committee lamented the fact that no obligation was placed on all departments to mainstream equalities in their work. It is a fact that there are few signs of an equality strategy being applied to the budget process. That is an area in which we believe firmly that an improvement must begin to be exhibited next time round.

When the Deputy Minister for Finance and Local Government, Peter Peacock, gave evidence to the Finance Committee this month, he was frank in his admission of the difficulty in determining the impact on men and women of expenditure programmes. We do not suggest that he exaggerated the case, but it should be noted that such difficulties have been overcome in other countries—most notably in Canada and New Zealand. Therefore, we hold to the not unreasonable expectation that progress on that important aspect of the budget process should be capable of being recorded by next year. In doing that, we are encouraged by the establishment of the equality proofing advisory group and by the Deputy Minister for Finance and Local Government's commitment to us on the development of equality performance indicators by the end of this year.

However, the approach should be two-pronged. That is why we also recommend that the Equal Opportunities Committee liaise directly with the relevant departments on how its proposals can be progressed. Only if realistic targets are set for next year's annual expenditure report will it be possible for us to record movement in a year's time.

The final aspect I will highlight concerns the linked issues of end-year flexibility and the Scottish and UK reserves. Despite questioning the Minister for Finance and Local Government, his deputy and finance division officials on the reserves on several occasions, it is fair to say that an air of mystique continues to surround them. We would like to receive definitive answers to the following questions. Why should end-year flexibility money be held in the UK consolidated fund rather than in the Scottish one? What precisely is the role of Treasury officials in determining the amount of end-year flexibility money that reverts automatically to Scottish Executive departments and how does the mechanism for accessing the UK reserve operate? Given the importance of such issues, a "don't ask, don't tell" philosophy is inappropriate. Post devolution, transparency is required and the committee intends to ensure that it is achieved.

The budget process has been refined this year and its refinement will doubtless continue. There have been several important developments. The Finance Committee welcomes the fact that four committees used, for the first time, specialist advisers to assist them in formulating their response. However, despite that, no committee felt able to recommend a redirection in the spending proposals. That may well develop in future years; it is to be hoped that it does, because it was clearly envisaged by the financial issues advisory group in its seminal report, which recommended the novel three-stage budget process in which we are now involved. Time is also a factor. That was shown in today's debate on the Protection from Abuse (Scotland) Bill, which is the first bill to begin its course in a committee. It is a matter of evolution; the processes will develop.

The committees are becoming more attuned to the need to schedule the budget process into their work programme. We in the Finance Committee welcome the support of the Procedures Committee in urging the Parliamentary Bureau to take into account the requirements of standing orders in relation to the committees' role in the budget process.

This year, for the first time, each member of the Finance Committee was attached to one of the subject committees, to act as a reporter on stage 1 consideration of the annual expenditure report. That seems to have been valuable to the Finance Committee and to members of subject committees.

The Finance Committee is determined that the budget process should be as accessible and as meaningful as possible to as broad a cross-section of the people in our country as possible. That is why we have insisted in our report that the information provided in the annual expenditure report and the summary document should be supplemented by a leaflet that can be made more widely available. We took the committee to Aberdeen in November 2000 and to Perth earlier this month, as part of our policy of meeting outwith Edinburgh at stages 1 and 2 each year and, if at all possible, taking evidence from the minister at such meetings to provide the occasion with added gravitas. We intend to engage with individuals and organisations from localities the length and breadth of Scotland and to make the budget process a little more understandable. That may not be the most exciting journey undertaken by the Scottish Parliament's committees, but it is certainly one of the most important.

I move,

That the Parliament notes the 10th Report, 2001 of the Finance Committee, Stage 1 of the 2002/03 Budget Process (SP Paper 364) and commends the recommendations to the Scottish Executive.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Mr George Reid): SNP
The next item of business is a Finance Committee debate on motion S1M-2042, in the name of Mike Watson, on the 2002-03 budget process.
Mike Watson (Glasgow Cathcart) (Lab): Lab
A year ago today, I introduced an equivalent debate on the 2001-02 budget process. I said then that I anticipated the Parliament and its budget process devel...
Mr David Davidson (North-East Scotland) (Con): Con
Will Mr Watson give way?
Mike Watson: Lab
I see a CA to my right—he is well to my right. I shall give way to him in a moment. I do not know why I did not make it as a CA. All I know is that it was a ...
Mr Davidson: Con
I wonder, Presiding Officer, whether this is a resignation speech.
Mike Watson: Lab
Yes; I am resigned to the fact that I had to admit that at some stage in my political life. Seriously—I tell Annabel Goldie that that is as good as it gets—w...
Alex Neil (Central Scotland) (SNP): SNP
I note the point that Mike Watson makes. Does he accept that, as the Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee indicated in its submission, one of the reaso...
Mike Watson: Lab
I accept that that was part of the Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee's report. Obviously, my quotes are selective, but I will deal with transparency...
The Minister for Finance and Local Government (Angus MacKay): Lab
I welcome the opportunity to respond on behalf of the Executive.I join my colleague, Mike Watson, in welcoming Alasdair Morgan to his new post as shadow fina...
Andrew Wilson (Central Scotland) (SNP): SNP
Given what the minister has said about unforeseen and exceptional circumstances and given that there is a Scottish reserve, under what circumstances will he ...
Angus MacKay: Lab
We have been over this ground before with Andrew Wilson, whom I welcome to both his new and old portfolio. Although I am somewhat surprised that he has inter...
Mr Davidson: Con
Will the minister clarify the Secretary of State for Scotland's exact role in the application process?
Angus MacKay: Lab
The secretary of state has a formal role in representing Scotland's interests in the UK Cabinet and she would be expected to express a viewpoint in that cont...
Alasdair Morgan (Galloway and Upper Nithsdale) (SNP): SNP
I thank the minister and the convener of the Finance Committee for their welcome. I had not expected to participate in the debate in my new post, but I was a...
Bristow Muldoon (Livingston) (Lab): Lab
If the argument for fiscal autonomy has been won, why did the SNP's share of the vote drop?
Alasdair Morgan: SNP
The argument for fiscal autonomy is one that every party in the Parliament should support. I am surprised that a man as prudent and ambitious as the minister...
Angus MacKay rose— Lab
Alasdair Morgan: SNP
I shall not give way, as I am summing up.I say that in an attempt to be helpful to the minister. It is clear from the comments of both Labour and Tory MPs so...
Mr David Davidson (North-East Scotland) (Con): Con
I add my welcome to the new finance guru for the SNP.Once again, the Finance Committee has produced a report that should become the template for future Scott...
Alex Neil: SNP
I hear what the member is saying. I presume that he also agrees that the 55 per cent or so of the public money that is spent in Scotland that is under the co...
Mr Davidson: Con
When the BBC last week read out a list of contenders for the leadership and my name was at the end of it, I had a bit of explaining to do. As we do not know ...
Donald Gorrie (Central Scotland) (LD): LD
Much of what David Davidson says is correct, but we must keep the matter in context. Our fledgling efforts to be honest and open are already significantly in...
Miss Annabel Goldie (West of Scotland) (Con): Con
Does Mr Gorrie think that it would be helpful if the Accounts Commission were encouraged to be more analytical in the consideration of local authority expend...
Donald Gorrie: LD
Some organisations claim that they are over-audited by a multitude of people. We want to have one really good system of auditing. That may best be done in th...
Alex Neil (Central Scotland) (SNP): SNP
I will make some positive suggestions on the way forward for the Finance Committee. Before I do, I remind members that we should not kid ourselves on that th...
Miss Goldie: Con
Just for illustration, will Alex Neil tell me which parish council in Scotland has power to borrow money?
Alex Neil: SNP
Every local authority in Scotland has the power to borrow money. I would have thought that my good friend Miss Goldie would have known that. The parish counc...
Miss Goldie: Con
I thought that parish councils could not be found in Scotland.
Alex Neil: SNP
Parish councils cannot be found in Scotland, but local authorities can. The substantive point remains the same. No doubt Miss Goldie, whom I congratulate on ...
Iain Smith (North-East Fife) (LD): LD
Will the member give way?