Committee
Public Petitions Committee, 24 Apr 2001
24 Apr 2001 · S1 · Public Petitions Committee
Item of business
Current Petitions
Petition PE243, from Jim Gibson, on the water price increases in the North of Scotland Water Authority area, called on the Parliament to remedy the increases by ensuring that there is effective democratic scrutiny of the public service. In September, we passed a copy of the petition to the Minister for Transport and the Environment, asking for a response to the issues in the petition and to the response that was received from NOSWA. The Executive has replied in full, giving the reasons for the increase in water charges and details of the public consultation on its proposals for assisting two groups of low-income households in particular: those living in the NOSWA area and those living in areas that include higher-band properties. The outcome of the consultation is set out in the paper that is before us. We have also received details of the process for setting water charges and the Scottish Executive's proposals to move to a single water authority, which were announced recently.With that, there are tables that contain details of the public meetings—and proposed meetings—of the consultative committee, at which members of the public get the opportunity to discuss issues with the water commissioner. The clerks have a copy of the guidance from the Scottish Executive, which details the functions of the commissioner and which is available to members of the committee. The Transport and the Environment Committee is conducting a wide-ranging inquiry into the structure, investment and charges of the water industry, and the role of the water commissioner.The action taken by the Executive to assist those on low incomes—including those in the NOSWA area—as well as the inquiry into all aspects of the water industry that is being carried out by the Transport and the Environment Committee, suggests that we should agree to pass a copy of the petition and response to the Transport and the Environment Committee for information only, in the context of its inquiry, and that we should agree to pass a copy of the response to the petitioners and take no further action. Is that agreed?Members indicated agreement.
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