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Mr Wallace: LD Chamber
17 Jun 1999
Tuition Fees
Anyone who heard what we said in the campaign knew that investment in education was our most important priority. I am proud that we have managed to secure £80 million of extra investment in education that will help to tackle student poverty in a number of ways: the £9 million ...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Dec 2002
Chhokar Inquiries<br />(Jandoo Report)
I will repeat what has been said on several occasions. I profoundly regret that the family felt unable to co-operate with the Jandoo inquiry. I reject the idea that the inquiry was somehow motivated by malice. I respect the family's view that that was the case; I just do not b...
The Deputy First Minister and Minister for Justice (Mr Jim Wallace): LD Chamber
11 Nov 1999
Subordinate Legislation
The order which we are considering today is the legislative vehicle for increasing the maximum number of judges who serve in Scotland's supreme courts. Prior to today's debate, members were provided with a brief note on the background to the order. I hope that that was helpful...
Mr Jim Wallace (Orkney) (LD): LD Chamber
02 Mar 2006
Shirley McKie Case (Inquiry)
I welcome the measured way in which Nicola Sturgeon opened the debate. For once, she gave us some indication of her reasons for wanting a public inquiry and some context in which a public inquiry would take place. In contrast, I have not yet heard from Annabel Goldie what the ...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Dec 2002
Chhokar Inquiries<br />(Jandoo Report)
It is pure speculation to ask whether a public inquiry would have proceeded smoothly. The important point about an inquiry is whether it identifies what went wrong, when there is general acceptance that things went wrong. The inquiry should then produce proposals or recommenda...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
22 Nov 2005
Transposition and Implementation of European Directives Inquiry
We have discussed European directives—as per the paper that is before the committee—at our previous meetings.The idea was that I would report to the committee having considered specific examples; we have had some fed in that will make for a good starting point. We could examin...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
14 Mar 2006
Co-operation with Ireland Inquiry and Transposition and Implementation of European Directives Inquiry
Most of the detail is contained in paper EU/S2/06/4/3, which has been submitted to the committee. There has been a reasonable response to our call for written evidence.One challenge that we faced with this inquiry, which is indeed as open-ended as members would think it might ...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
09 May 2006
Work Programme
It is clear from the clerk's paper that, as Phil Gallie pointed out, the danger is that we will have an inquiry that is so wide that we become the energy committee rather than the European and External Relations Committee. I was particularly brought up short when I read the su...
Mr Wallace: LD Chamber
15 Jun 2000
First Minister's Question Time · Scottish Executive Priorities
As Mr Salmond and the Parliament will fully appreciate, I am in no position to confirm or not confirm anything on behalf of the Ministry of Defence. The Lord Advocate has made it clear that he accepts the fatal accident inquiry did not consider in any detail matters relating t...
Mr Wallace: LD Chamber
22 Dec 2005
Rendition Flights
No, I have only a short time.We should direct our voice to where most action can and should be taken. In the light of the initiative that the Council of Europe has taken, the Westminster Government should take immediate steps to establish an independent inquiry into what infor...
Mr Wallace: LD Chamber
02 Mar 2006
Shirley McKie Case (Inquiry)
I was told, without explanation, that an issue was emerging from the Mackay inquiry. That is why four SCRO personnel had been suspended. The advice was also given that it was too soon to draw final conclusions, and that the outcome of the Association of Chief Police Officers i...
The Deputy First Minister and Minister for Justice (Mr Jim Wallace): LD Committee
26 Jun 2000
Executive Reports
Thank you, convener. The officials who are with me are Barbara Brown, Ian Snedden, Gerald Byrne and Peter Beaton.I shall set down some of the issues that the steering group has been considering over the past five months. The Lawrence steering group has had four meetings since ...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Dec 2002
Chhokar Inquiries<br />(Jandoo Report)
As I said to Parliament at the time, I have instructed that inquiries be made and I have followed them through. I had a recent meeting on the issue with the permanent secretary and I understand that the result of the inquiry into the leak should be available any day now. I do ...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Dec 2002
Chhokar Inquiries<br />(Jandoo Report)
Another difficulty that would have emerged in a public inquiry reflects what the Lord Advocate said about lawyers being the only beneficiaries. The main figures could legitimately have had counsel to represent them and they might well have been advised not to answer particular...
Mr Jim Wallace (Orkney) (LD): LD Committee
25 Oct 2005
Work Programme
I agree with much of what Margaret Ewing has just said. A consensus seems to be emerging. My concern about doing any substantive investigative inquiry into structural funds is that the situation that we would be investigating is still hypothetical. To embark on an inquiry into...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
14 Mar 2006
Co-operation with Ireland Inquiry and Transposition and Implementation of European Directives Inquiry
That is an emerging issue. Timing is an issue. I am not picking on SEPA specifically, but what notice does the Executive give it of regulations, for example? The National Audit Office has done some worthwhile work, although not in exactly the same way as we are doing our work....
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
19 Dec 2006
European Commission Growth and Jobs Strategy Inquiry
Minister, in your opening remarks, you spoke about the importance of business R and D—which has obviously been picked up on in the discussion—and the work that was done on that by the Enterprise and Culture Committee. When we embarked on our inquiry, we were conscious that the...
The Deputy First Minister and Minister for Justice (Mr Jim Wallace): LD Chamber
24 Oct 2001
Chhokar Inquiries
I will try to pick up on some of the points that have been made.I emphasise that the leaks that happened were not authorised by Scottish ministers. Both Roseanna Cunningham and James Douglas-Hamilton sought reassurances that the inquiry into the leaks will be thorough. I can a...
The Deputy First Minister and Minister for Justice (Mr Jim Wallace): LD Committee
27 Feb 2001
Police Race Relations
My opening statement will be very short indeed. I will just set the scene for both this item and item 5. You will be aware that two documents have been published recently: "The Stephen Lawrence Inquiry: An Action Plan for Scotland", the review by the Stephen Lawrence inquiry s...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Dec 2002
Chhokar Inquiries<br />(Jandoo Report)
No, I think that it would be consistent with the usual way in which leaked inquiry reports are handled. I understand and share your frustration; I was angered when the inquiry reports were leaked and that is why an investigation was instructed. Once an investigation is instruc...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Dec 2002
Chhokar Inquiries<br />(Jandoo Report)
In the 14 months or so since the inquiries reported, I have not been made aware that any major facet of the inquiries or any admission of failure of police or COPFS activity has not been brought to light or been the subject of a recommendation. Most people accepted that the re...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Dec 2002
Chhokar Inquiries<br />(Jandoo Report)
In asking your question, you suggested that if there had been a public inquiry, the leaks could have been avoided. The Lord Advocate made the point that the Stephen Lawrence inquiry was public and yet it was leaked.
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Dec 2002
Chhokar Inquiries<br />(Jandoo Report)
The Lord Advocate will clarify further for himself, but the comments that he and I made in Parliament on 24 October 2001 related to leaks that had appeared in the press the weekend before that, which were almost verbatim lifts from the inquiry report. I have instructed an inqu...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
27 Sep 2005
Work Programme
Many positive suggestions have been made. However, it strikes me that we are proposing a unilateral inquiry into bilateral co-operation. I wonder whether we could think outside the box. Does anyone know whether the inquiry could be conducted bilaterally? Is there an equivalent...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
14 Mar 2006
Co-operation with Ireland Inquiry and Transposition and Implementation of European Directives Inquiry
That is the intention. If the committee wants me to go off and visit all the other 24 member states, I will be delighted to do so. In making our selection, we will consider member states of comparable size and perhaps a Spanish autonomous region. We will try to make reasonably...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
14 Mar 2006
Co-operation with Ireland Inquiry and Transposition and Implementation of European Directives Inquiry
That is a useful suggestion, which might help to identify a suitable place.
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
14 Mar 2006
Co-operation with Ireland Inquiry and Transposition and Implementation of European Directives Inquiry
It is important to discuss specific regulations with the key stakeholders.
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
25 Apr 2006
Work Programme
Before we decide on the proposal, we should not ignore Irene Oldfather's point. What is our inquiry about? Is it about Scotland's performance against the Lisbon targets or is it about how Lisbon can be implemented effectively through devolved Administrations? The proposed remi...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
09 May 2006
Structural Funds 2007-13 Inquiry
Am I right in thinking that the inquiry is in two parts? The initial part is where we respond to the NSRF.
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
09 May 2006
Structural Funds 2007-13 Inquiry
Phil Gallie's question is a good one, but perhaps it was more relevant to the committee's previous inquiry on structural funds. The point is that we have the structural funds and are now more concerned about how they are going to be used. We might wait until 2010 for another o...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Jan 2007
Transposition and Implementation of European Directives Inquiry
I thank Andy Robertson and James Withers for coming to give evidence. In your original submission to the inquiry, you listed five principles of better regulation, as defined by the better regulation taskforce, and described how they might be implemented as part of a procedure....
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
23 Jan 2007
Transposition and Implementation of European Directives Inquiry
Those answers were helpful and almost anticipated my follow-on question, which was about how we can make quality judgments on what should be followed up among the plethora of information. The three MEPs have given us useful guidance on that.It is important that we engage other...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
23 Jan 2007
Transposition and Implementation of European Directives Inquiry
That is the purpose of our inquiry. We started from a similar position of scepticism.Before Mr Bell speaks, I would like to question Mr McLean further on this. I do not know whether you were in post when the original directive was introduced. I—and, I am sure the committee—wou...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
25 Feb 2003
Alternatives to Custody Inquiry
I hope that the committee acknowledges what I said about the Audit Scotland report, which found that 96.5 per cent of social work inquiry reports were delivered to the court on time. That is easy to knock, but it is appropriate to give credit where it is due.
Mr Wallace: LD Chamber
17 Jun 1999
Tuition Fees
I am just winding up, Mr Gallie.I have already referred to our manifesto position on tuition fees. It is worth reminding the Parliament that our manifesto also emphasised the importance of widening access to further and higher education and of attacking student poverty. The me...
Mr Wallace: LD Chamber
22 Jun 2000
Scottish Criminal Record Office
I share Phil Gallie's view that the criminal justice system must have the confidence of the public. That is why it is important that the findings of Mr Taylor's inquiry, when they are fully published, will be given the utmost detailed and serious consideration—I assure Mr Gall...
The Deputy First Minister and Minister for Justice (Mr Jim Wallace): LD Chamber
07 Nov 2001
Chhokar Inquiries
I am grateful to MSPs for their contributions to this afternoon's debate. I am sure that those who have sat through it will agree that it has been a constructive debate on what is a difficult but important subject.When one is speaking about a report, often the natural thing is...
The Deputy First Minister and Minister for Justice (Mr Jim Wallace): LD Chamber
29 Jan 2003
Firefighters' Dispute
It is right that I should report to Parliament about the increasingly unsatisfactory situation that has been brought about by the industrial action called by the Fire Brigades Union in its long-running dispute. The country has had to endure a series of strikes by members of th...
Mr Wallace: LD Chamber
29 Jan 2003
Firefighters' Dispute
I can of course confirm that the origins of the dispute lie back in March or April last year when the 40 per cent pay claim was first flagged up. It is also fair to say that the setting up of the Bain inquiry was an effort, through the use of an independent inquiry, to avoid s...
Mr Wallace: LD Chamber
22 Jan 2004
Higher Education (Top-up Fees)
I do not have time. As I indicated to Fiona Hyslop, we have been engaged in a proper and detailed process, building on our higher education framework document, published last March, which in turn built on 18 months of detailed discussion with the sector. Further, we have condu...
Mr Wallace: LD Chamber
22 Jan 2004
Higher Education (Top-up Fees)
No, I have not got very much time and I gave way in my opening remarks.We need also to nail the myth that tuition fees have not been abolished in Scotland. Of course they have been abolished in Scotland. Interruption. I declare my interest—I have a daughter who is in her first...
The Deputy First Minister and Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning (Mr Jim Wallace): LD Chamber
17 Mar 2004
Scottish Solutions Inquiry
I am pleased to have the opportunity to discuss the Enterprise and Culture Committee's report on its Scottish solutions inquiry, which was published last December, and to thank Alasdair Morgan, the convener of the committee, for the fair way in which he has represented the rep...
Mr Wallace: LD Chamber
17 Mar 2004
Scottish Solutions Inquiry
Does the member accept that the Scottish committee of the national committee of inquiry into higher education—the Dearing committee—which considered funding in the late 1990s, found that, between 1976 and 1995, the unit of resource for teaching in higher education institutions...
The Deputy First Minister and Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning (Mr Jim Wallace): LD Committee
16 Nov 2004
Further and Higher Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
I am delighted to give formal evidence to the committee for the first time since you took over the convenership.On my right are Gill Troup, who heads up the higher education division, and Colin Gilchrist, from the office of the solicitor to the Scottish Executive, whom the com...
The Deputy First Minister and Minister for Justice (Mr Jim Wallace): LD Committee
28 Sep 1999
Macpherson Report
I welcome this opportunity to meet the committee to discuss the important issue of the action plan for Scotland, which is the Scottish Executive's response to the Macpherson report on the Stephen Lawrence inquiry. Since the action plan was published, on 20 July, there has been...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
26 Jun 2000
Executive Reports
The primary focus of the Lawrence inquiry report and the Macpherson recommendations is the police and the prosecution service. However, the steering group has highlighted other aspects of the criminal justice system, such as the courts, the judiciary, prisons, criminal justice...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
27 Feb 2001
Police Race Relations
I am pleased that you acknowledge that the wool was not pulled over the eyes of the inspectorate. That indicates that we have, in the chief inspector and his team, people who are independent of the forces and who will go into a force and be robust and thorough in their investi...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
27 Feb 2001
Police Race Relations
We are trying to ensure that each police force is aware of its target—the trouble with such words is that they might be interpreted as having implications that do not necessarily exist. We will publish and make clear what percentage of the population in each area is made up of...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
27 Feb 2001
Police Race Relations
As Margaret Smith knows, equal opportunities is a foundation stone of the policies not only of the Parliament, but of the Executive; it is central to our overall activities. We have an equality unit and, on race, the working group that I have been chairing has specifically pur...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Dec 2002
Chhokar Inquiries<br />(Jandoo Report)
I begin by expressing regret. Although I was assured that copies of my opening statement would be available in Punjabi, they have not been produced in time for the meeting. I will ensure that copies are made available to Mr and Mrs Chhokar and other members of the family, and ...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Dec 2002
Chhokar Inquiries<br />(Jandoo Report)
I share Tommy Sheridan's frustration. That is why I have on a number of occasions sought progress reports on the inquiry. As I said, I am assured that the investigator is due to submit his report this month.
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Dec 2002
Chhokar Inquiries<br />(Jandoo Report)
It is not normal practice to publish such reports. I will not anticipate its content; therefore I will not anticipate whether it will be made public. On that point, it is sometimes notoriously difficult to get people to be frank in an inquiry and frankness can sometimes be imp...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Dec 2002
Chhokar Inquiries<br />(Jandoo Report)
I certainly do not want deliberately to occasion offence to the Chhokar family. Indeed, the Lord Advocate has already apologised for failings in the system, and I associate myself with that apology. Parts of the system had problems, which needed to be addressed and rectified. ...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Dec 2002
Chhokar Inquiries<br />(Jandoo Report)
It is up to the Lord Advocate to recall what he said would be grossly offensive. I think that the fact that there were leaks was offensive and unacceptable and I hope that I have made that clear yet again. We already have reports. It is not correct that hurtful things would no...
The Deputy First Minister and Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning (Mr Jim Wallace): LD Committee
16 Mar 2004
Regional Development Funding Inquiry
Thank you very much, convener. It is a pleasure to be back before the European and External Relations Committee, which has a somewhat different constitution to that which it had when I had responsibility for Europe and external affairs. I introduce my officials Diane McLaffert...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Mar 2004
Regional Development Funding Inquiry
The committee will be aware—indeed, I think that it has a copy—of the document that was submitted by the Scottish European structural funds forum, which my colleague Lewis Macdonald, the Deputy Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning, chairs. That document sets out the f...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Mar 2004
Regional Development Funding Inquiry
Yes.
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Mar 2004
Regional Development Funding Inquiry
A host of questions are raised if we want to know precisely what kind of amounts we are talking about. Another issue is that the UK Government has indicated that any guarantee will be based on the current EU funding regime that will be applied to an enlarged Europe. Although i...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Mar 2004
Regional Development Funding Inquiry
I do not wish to be disrespectful, but everyone is trying to clarify things—that is our difficulty at the moment. Given the nature of the negotiations, that is not surprising. There will be a long iterative process. As I said, even after we have the draft regulations, the proc...
Mr Wallace: LD Committee
16 Mar 2004
Regional Development Funding Inquiry
Indeed, the question is the extent to which we would be bigger contributors. The United Kingdom Government's estimate in relation to the Commission's proposals is that it could cost the United Kingdom some €3 billion to €4 billion more over the period of the new regime from 20...
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Chamber

Plenary, 17 Jun 1999

17 Jun 1999 · S1 · Plenary
Item of business
Tuition Fees
Anyone who heard what we said in the campaign knew that investment in education was our most important priority. I am proud that we have managed to secure £80 million of extra investment in education that will help to tackle student poverty in a number of ways: the £9 million three-year pilot scheme to encourage students from low-income families to stay on at school with a view to going on to higher education; the loan funding for mature part-time students who are on low incomes; and the increase in access funds to £14 million a year, which will relieve the hardships that are suffered by the most disadvantaged students.

We said that education was our main priority and we have helped to deliver more resources to education.

I welcome the amendment's supporters' recent conversion to the proposal of a committee of inquiry into student funding and student hardship. No doubt the representations that they have received from people who are genuinely concerned about the financial position of students have had an effect on them, albeit belatedly. They may be willing to recognise that the commitment to a committee of inquiry, which was expressed in the partnership agreement document, was a significant step forward.

The committee of inquiry that will examine the issues of tuition fees and student hardship will be very different from its Westminster counterparts. If this motion is carried, the committee will proceed with the approval and authority of this Parliament and it will report to this Parliament. The role and importance of the Parliament in progressing this issue is vital. It is also important when we look at the terms of the opposition amendment.

We must remember that this is not a debating society; it is a Parliament. Therefore, when the amendment in the name of Mr Swinney says that we must

"bring forward to the Parliament proposals for the abolition of tuition fees", we are entitled to note that motions and amendments must be clear and unambiguous.

Our position, as I have stated, is that we want all Scottish students to have their fees paid by the Government, without interfering with the funding of the universities.

The amendment gives the Executive a bald instruction to abolish tuition fees—not to restore the previous system, in which students were funded by the state. It would remove tens of millions of pounds from Scottish higher education at a stroke. Where would that leave efforts to improve quality and extend access?

The amendment would also mean that this Parliament should abolish tuition fees for all students who study in Scotland, including those from England and Wales. Scottish students studying in other parts of the United Kingdom would still have to pay tuition fees. That, expressly, was not part of the Liberal Democrat manifesto.

The Opposition amendment is deeply flawed. It bears the hallmark of a political tactic, rather than a substantial parliamentary motion addressing an important issue that we must get right. If I may use the language of Mr McLetchie, which so embellished our election campaign, it smacks more of Mr McLetchie snuggling up to Salmond on a sofa than to the serious politics that the issue requires.

In contrast, we have indicated that we want to work with the organisations that care most about higher and further education in Scotland on the issue of tuition fees and student support. We want to work with organisations such as the Committee of Scottish Higher Education Principals, the Association of Scottish Colleges, the Association of University Teachers and the National Union of Students in Scotland, all of which support the setting up of the independent inquiry. Indeed, the National Union of Students in Scotland also supports the abolition of tuition fees.

Unlike the Dearing inquiry, which focused on the purpose, shape and funding of higher education, the focus of this inquiry is the position of part-time and full-time students in both higher and further education. Many people in our universities and further education colleges believe that the Dearing and Garrick reports neglected that area. The entire system, including the payment of tuition fees, requires an overhaul.

Much of the system goes back to the 1960s, when social conditions and the number of people who went into universities were quite different from what they are today. We need to take account of the fact that patterns of study have changed since many of us were students. Today, about half of the people entering further and higher education are mature students, a fact that—with respect—the saltire awards proposed by the Conservative party do not reflect.

Mature students have different needs from school leavers. Many people choose to combine work with study. The support mechanism—in terms of help with fees, books and exam charges—has never been properly addressed in

relation to mature students. That is why I commend the committee of inquiry.

If the motion is passed, the Executive is anxious to consult the other parties fully, and as a matter of urgency, on the details of the committee. My view is that the committee should be asked to work intensively and to report by the end of the year. Clearly, we will need to find a suitably independent chair, without any party allegiance. We are keen that the membership of the committee should be wide enough to bring a wide range of experience to bear.

Parties will be asked for their views and suggestions and I hope that we will all agree that people should be chosen to serve on the committee on account of their expertise, rather than on account of partisan loyalty. The committee's terms of reference will also be a matter for discussion although, as the motion makes clear, it should encompass tuition fees and all student finance, for part-time and full-time students, in both further and higher education.

I also hope that we can reach agreement that the committee should take account of the fact that we need to maintain both quality and standards in our higher and further education institutions. We also need to recognise the fact that many students in Scotland, particularly in our universities, come from outside Scotland. Finally, we do not propose to constrain the committee, but the Parliament would expect to be made aware of the costs of the options and recommendations.

No person or party is being asked to make any concession on their position regarding tuition fees in agreeing to establish the committee. This proposal represents the most effective and immediate way of taking forward these crucial issues. Moreover, by consulting and by involving people with an interest, people with a knowledge, people with a commitment to students and people with a commitment to further and higher education, we will give real substance to what all the parties have proclaimed. The Parliament must consult and listen. As the former president of the AUT, Mr David Jago, said:

"Seeking a quick fix on this issue would be a betrayal of Scotland's aspirations for a new politics, in which everyone can have a say."

I hope that all parties will support the establishment of the committee of inquiry and state their case to it. That is what the Liberal Democrats will do. Although we intend the process to provide a sound basis for an agreed way forward, the partnership agreement expressly acknowledges that we are not bound in advance and, as Liberal Democrats, we are free to come to our own view on the committee's conclusions.

I may be wrong, but I rather suspect that some speeches in this debate may refer to the election manifesto.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Sir David Steel): NPA
The next item of business is the motion on tuition fees in the name of Jim Wallace. I have selected amendment S1M-2.4 in the name of John Swinney. Mr Wallace...
The Deputy First Minister and Minister for Justice (Mr Jim Wallace): LD
I welcome the fact that it has been possible to debate tuition fees and student finance so soon in the lifetime of this Parliament, given the importance that...
Mr Alex Salmond (Banff and Buchan) (SNP): SNP
It is true that those concerns were apparent in the election campaign. Jim and I took part in many debates and, in each one, he said that if the Labour party...
Mr Wallace: LD
I believe that what we are proposing today is the most effective and immediate way of carrying forward the issue of tuition fees—and that of student poverty,...
David McLetchie (Lothians) (Con): Con
The Conservative party made its case to the biggest committee of inquiry that was possible: the electorate, who made their decision when casting their votes ...
Mr Wallace: LD
Anyone who heard what we said in the campaign knew that investment in education was our most important priority. I am proud that we have managed to secure £8...
Phil Gallie (South of Scotland) (Con) rose— Con
Mr Wallace: LD
I am just winding up, Mr Gallie.I have already referred to our manifesto position on tuition fees. It is worth reminding the Parliament that our manifesto al...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Ms Patricia Ferguson): Lab
I call John Swinney to speak on amendment S1M-2.4, and then to move it formally.
Mr John Swinney (North Tayside) (SNP): SNP
I have listened carefully to Mr Wallace on many occasions. I have heard him speak on the issue of tuition fees many times. Having listened carefully to him t...
Mr Swinney: SNP
The people of Scotland were asked about tuition fees during the election and that is the only committee of inquiry that we need.
Robert Brown (Glasgow) (LD): LD
On a point of order, Deputy Presiding Officer. Is it in order for Mr Swinney to speak about the non-necessity of committees when his amendment proposes one?
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Lab
That is not a point of order, Mr Brown.
Mr Swinney: SNP
Mr McLeish has made it clear in the press that the committee proposed by the Executive will have a wide remit, and that was confirmed by Mr Wallace in his pr...
Mr Wallace: LD
To clear up any dispute, I said that the committee would have to identify what the options would cost, not where the money was coming from.
Mr Swinney: SNP
I take Mr Wallace's point and he can put it on the record. Mr McLeish has also made it clear that the committee members will have no baggage to bring to the ...
The Minister for Enterprise and Lifelong Learning (Henry McLeish): Lab
I want to correct a fundamental misconception. It should be made clear that the committee that we want to establish—I hope with all-party support—will look a...
Mr Swinney: SNP
I am grateful for Mr McLeish's intervention, although I am not sure whom it was designed to help. It was certainly more helpful to me than to anyone else in ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Lab
I will now open the debate to members. As a number of members have expressed a wish to speak, the time limit for speeches will be four minutes. That may be r...
Mr Brian Monteith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con): Con
During the past couple of weeks, we have heard many complaints that the Parliament has avoided discussion about real issues that affect real people. Today, w...
George Lyon (Argyll and Bute) (LD): LD
Mr Monteith talks about the creation of student hardship and the principle of free higher education. Has he conveniently forgotten that it was a Tory Governm...
Mr Monteith: Con
Can Mr Lyon give one of those 13 examples?
George Lyon: LD
Certainly—
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Lab
This is not a debate across the chamber, Mr Monteith.
Mr Monteith: Con
Mr Lyon should be reminded that it was under the Conservative Government that access to higher education expanded from 17 per cent to 43 per cent. If any Gov...
The Deputy Minister for Parliament (Iain Smith): LD
Mr Monteith keeps referring to his party's commitment to the principle of free higher education. I wonder whether he recognises this quotation of a certain M...
Mr Monteith: Con
No, it sounds like Stephen Dorrell. Our party has embraced devolution and is quite at home with the concept of creating policy for our party and our electora...
Dr Sylvia Jackson (Stirling) (Lab): Lab
One of the key themes surrounding the establishment of the Scottish Parliament was the emergence of a new kind of politics: where we would put aside party po...
Richard Lochhead (North-East Scotland) (SNP): SNP
Did Dr Jackson benefit from a free higher education? If she did, why does she wish to deny that same privilege to future generations?
Dr Jackson: Lab
If Mr Lochhead will allow me to finish, I am just coming on to that point.