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Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Chamber
17 Dec 2003
Budget Process 2004-05: Stage 2
About three years ago, when I started to take the SNP economic case around the committee rooms and board rooms of Scotland, a director of one of our major civic organisations said that the two key measurements of any Government's performance should be life expectancy relative ...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
29 Jun 2005
Clydesdale Bank <br />(Branch Closures)
No. I want to develop the point.We should consider the facts. Efficiency in the banking industry is measured by the cost-income ratio. That means that the banks and analysts that dictate their stock market rating and long-term credibility and viability pay close attention to h...
The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather) SNP Chamber
02 Dec 2010
Economy
I welcome the opportunity to discuss the Scottish economy. Members will know that, since coming to power, the Scottish Government has placed the economy at the heart of everything we do. Our guiding principles are those of the Government’s economic strategy—a bold vision for t...
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Chamber
03 Nov 2005
Manufacturing
I rise to engage in a debate that I am not sure is entirely serious. It seems to me that this might be more of a Tory attempt to clear the decks and mark the arrival of a new leader, and to have previous convictions taken into account. The Proclaimers should be here today to s...
Mr Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Chamber
29 May 2003
Scottish Executive's Programme
For some time, I have been identifying the impact that low economic growth has on real people in terms of lower incomes, poor health, lower life expectancy, family separation and population decline. Although I welcome the fact that the coalition, in its partnership agreement, ...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
10 Nov 2005
Energy Policy
I reconcile my position readily. As I said, we have headquarters present in only five major sectors. Scotland has to maintain and grow from that base position as a branch economy—as created by the Tories—not to shrink further and become even more of a branch economy. In 30 yea...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
03 Jun 2004
Economy (Highlands and Islands)
If George Lyon drills below those data, he will see subsistence self-employment, the export of talented people, low wages and low life expectancy for those on the lowest incomes. He may be happy with that, but I certainly am not. Those are the poor outcomes that I am talking a...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
05 Feb 2004
Scottish Economy
I have only four minutes.We are getting inexorably closer to the time described by Tom Nairn, who said that"when things do alter, the new retrospect will make it seem that the former quiescence was intolerable—indeed almost inexplicable".With that in mind, we are positive abou...
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Chamber
24 Jun 2004
Budget Process 2005-06
The Finance Committee's stage 1 report on the 2005-06 budget process recognises and welcomes the fact that that the new annual evaluation report places a heavier focus on strategy and performance.It would be churlish of me not to recognise that the Executive has now produced t...
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Chamber
30 Jun 2005
Economic Development<br />(Cross-cutting Expenditure Review)
I take some hope from what Mr McNulty has just said that we might have yet another conversion on our hands. There is no doubt that the current economic management of Scotland is based on a flawed and failed model. As for Des McNulty trying to pitch us into a cycle of overspend...
Jim Mather SNP Chamber
02 Dec 2010
Economy
The catastrophe of a Government in Westminster that totally failed to manage the economy and regulate things allowed people to privatise profits and socialise losses. It created the cascade that underpinned the problem that Scotland has of being a branch economy with a lack of...
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Chamber
23 Mar 2006
Knowledge Economy
The Scottish National Party has always been persuaded by the case for investing in Scotland's knowledge economy. We know that countries and continents that invest heavily in education and skills benefit economically and socially from that choice. For every pound that is invest...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
04 Dec 2003
Scottish Parliament<br />(Financial Powers)
I want to crack on because 11.30 approaches.However, my benign tolerance runs pretty thin when I look at the partnership amendment. It shows no movement; it is a culpable straight bat. The amendment implies that, after 300 years in the union, Scotland does not have what it tak...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
04 Dec 2003
Scottish Parliament<br />(Financial Powers)
Because we aspire to a virtuous circle and a genuinely competitive Scotland. Scotland is still hamstrung; if we do something about business tax, we still have high water rates, aggregates tax, climate change levy, and high fuel and transport costs. George Lyon should look at w...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
24 Jun 2004
Budget Process 2005-06
I admit that there has been growth, but I contrast it with the growth that could have been achieved if Scotland had been allowed out of its box to compete outwith the confines of being a branch economy, which means that much of our wealth disappears. Analysis of the proportion...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
15 Feb 2007
Workers' Rights
There has been an element of success but, if we consider countries such as Denmark, we find that they have achieved that better. We are currently facing the challenges of globalisation, which are similar to the challenges that we faced 100 years ago. There is a widening gap be...
The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather) SNP Chamber
20 Jan 2011
Young People (Opportunities)
As a minister and a father, I applaud Robin Harper for his persistent and consistent view on this matter and for bringing this debate to the Parliament. After all, tackling youth unemployment is a top priority for this Government. History tells us that recession hits young peo...
Jim Mather: SNP Committee
30 Sep 2003
Budget Process 2004-05
That is a useful debate to have with the business community. The key point to recognise is that the business community in Scotland faces a rate poundage that is higher than that down south, basically because valuations in the south are higher. The presumption is that companies...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
09 Oct 2003
Schools (Enterprise Culture)
I understand much of Tommy Sheridan's point, but the key issue is that Scotland must stay as flexible as it can be so that it is not painted into a corner. We are trying to catch up, so a balance must be struck. I understand the balance and the points that Tommy Sheridan makes...
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Chamber
09 Feb 2005
Budget (Scotland) (No 2) Bill: Stage 3
I am happy to close for the SNP. As a member of the Finance Committee, I acknowledge that some progress has been made to evolve what remains an expenditure-only process. However, it still lacks top-level targets, which the Finance Committee and its adviser have advocated that ...
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Chamber
22 Sep 2005
Economic Policy
In moving my amendment, I will accept the general thrust of the Scottish Green Party's motion. We have our own reservations about GDP. However, economic growth is the key to improving living standards and quality of life, and to neglect economic growth is to create more inequa...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
12 Jan 2006
Skills and Training
In very recent memory—2001—that was not the case and, in essence, the gap between Scotland and the rest of the UK continues perennially. Those are facts, and facts are chiels that winna ding. The Executive also has a poor track record in the net results achieved through the sk...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
28 Sep 2006
Small Businesses
I advise Murdo Fraser to read "The Making of the Celtic Tiger" and to go in particular to page 284 and read about the impact of signals. When we make a signal—a declaration of intent—people make investment decisions and move forward. I read the Conservatives' press release yes...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
02 Nov 2006
Financial Powers <br />(Scottish Parliament)
It would be a step on the road, and I repeat to Mr Purvis that the motion is about having a debate, scrutinising all the options, considering the legitimate ones and looking objectively at problems. We ask for nothing more. Unlike some, we want a constructive debate. We are no...
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Chamber
01 Feb 2007
SCOTTISH EXECUTIVE · Economic Growth
I wanted to thank the minister for his answer, but his reference to inaccuracy was just too good. Gross domestic product is a poor and inaccurate measure of a branch economy and the reindexing of GDP on a rolling basis makes it more inaccurate.How much additional economic grow...
Jim Mather SNP Chamber
10 Mar 2011
Scottish Executive Question Time · Unemployment
I admire the proposition that the member puts forward. It is entirely right that we focus on unemployment and unemployed young people. Unemployment is impacting on them very badly. Having economic recovery and high levels of employment is the main focus of this Government, and...
The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather) SNP Chamber
10 Mar 2011
Lee Jeans Sit-in
I warmly congratulate Duncan McNeil on bringing the debate to Parliament and for telling the Lee jeans story so well. The common theme in the debate is that the Lee jeans experience touched us all. I was born and brought up in Greenock. I have lived in Greenock, Gourock and Po...
Jim Mather: SNP Committee
01 Jun 2004
Prohibition of Smoking in Regulated Areas (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum
I have a question that might give the SLTA and the Scottish branch of the British Beer & Pub Association some comfort. Given the proximity of Ireland and the likelihood that there must be some restaurant, hotel or pub group that operates in that jurisdiction and here, are you ...
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Chamber
29 Jun 2005
Clydesdale Bank <br />(Branch Closures)
I congratulate Paul Martin on securing the debate and bringing the economic debate in general into a more local and human focus. The motion takes issue exclusively with the Clydesdale Bank, which is an understandable but not totally reasonable stance to take. In preparing for ...
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Chamber
19 May 2005
Voluntary Sector and the Social Economy
From what we have heard today, it is self-evident that volunteers, the social economy and community enterprises are increasingly important to Scotland. I recognise that they all play an important role in bolstering the overall macroeconomy.Service provision in communities acro...
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Chamber
26 Jan 2006
Budget (Scotland) (No 3) Bill: Stage 1
I will take up the point about efficient government in due course, but first I record my permanent misgivings about an expenditure-only budget. I hanker for a budget that raises its own revenue. In my experience, the only budget that works is one in which people are spending t...
Jim Mather SNP Chamber
02 Dec 2010
Economy
I have taken enough; I am moving on.We are now seeing the measures put in place to prevent a recurrence, and I welcome the recent international agreement to raise capital ratios for banks and the changes to the UK’s financial regulatory framework. We must now ensure that we ne...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
24 Nov 2004
Green Jobs
Every Canadian province has much more autonomy than we have. Most political parties in those provinces have one aspect in common: they do not straddle the fence as we do; they are on the other side of the fence and want more power and more economic activity in their province. ...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
06 Oct 2005
Scottish Economy
I hear George Lyon, in his new ministerial role, talking Scotland down at an early opportunity. It is absolutely incredible. He is also talking down the business of the Royal Bank of Scotland, HBOS and Standard Life, because statistics put our national viability at 55th out of...
The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather): SNP Chamber
31 Oct 2007
Young's Seafood
I, too, congratulate Dr Elaine Murray and thank her for raising the issue of the latest proposed job losses in her constituency. She has given us the opportunity to debate the challenges that those job losses present to the people who are employed by Young's Seafood, and the i...
The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather) SNP Chamber
02 Jun 2010
Banking and Financial Services
I congratulate Iain Smith and his fellow members of the Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee on their unstinting efforts to inquire into the way forward for Scotland’s banking, building society and financial services industry. That was also recognised today at a very worthwhi...
The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather) SNP Chamber
23 Sep 2010
Low-carbon Economy
I am delighted to have the opportunity to recognise the progress that is being made by the sector and to state my belief that Scotland’s renewable energy potential will attract the involvement of other nations, and will generate the industrial, academic and public sector colla...
Jim Mather SNP Chamber
23 Sep 2010
Low-carbon Economy
It is clear that the Cromarty Firth will play an important part in the national renewables infrastructure plan, as it already does. Discussing that plan and ensuring that we have the right options has taken up a considerable amount of my time, but that is nothing compared with...
The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather) SNP Chamber
03 Mar 2011
There is a Better Way Campaign
I thank Elaine Smith for securing the debate. Viewed in the wider context of the increasingly extreme political and economic challenges that are being faced by other eurozone nations, it is even more important that the Parliament focuses on the economy and how we can act colle...
The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather) SNP Chamber
19 Jan 2011
“Report on the public sector’s support for exporters, international trade and the attraction of inward investment”
I welcome the report and the opening speech by the convener of the Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee. We have officials here noting the ideas, and I take the convener’s points about trying to achieve a step change and being open to other ideas as we go forward.The report a...
The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather): SNP Committee
13 May 2009
Energy Inquiry
I introduce David Rennie, Colin Imrie and Sue Kearns. Jamie Hume will undoubtedly be here—I suspect that the vagaries of ScotRail have snarled him up.I welcome the opportunity to contribute to the committee's energy inquiry. As members will have discovered, this is a complex a...
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Committee
15 Nov 2004
Budget Process 2005-06
As the committee would expect, given the enterprise and business people who were sitting around the table, our discussion focused on the overall state of the Fife economy and on the inhibitors to businesses' ability to press forward. We focused on areas such as business rates,...
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Committee
07 Nov 2005
Budget Process
The inputs and the participants are proof that we can confront the reality of what inhibits progress and come up with a much better and more resurgent solution.We started off by being given a clear idea of the components and nature of the local economy, which were wonderfully ...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
16 Sep 2004
Growing Scotland's Economy
I had thought that Wendy Alexander would keep her head down today given that, essentially, she made the case earlier this week for full-blown independence. Let us not get involved in semantics or play the vocabulary game. What Wendy Alexander did this week was wonderful and ma...
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Chamber
24 Nov 2004
Green Jobs
There is much in what the Deputy First Minister said that I agree with. I want my contribution to this debate to be as practical as possible and to highlight some realistic steps that could deliver and retain additional worthwhile and rewarding green jobs in Scotland.My part o...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
24 Nov 2004
Green Jobs
Although I have great admiration for Hong Kong as the valve through which much of China's value flows, the idea of ripping Scotland from its tectonic plate and moving it to compete with Hong Kong is not a practical possibility. That is the nature of the member's politics: it l...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
03 Feb 2005
Economy
In using the word "acceptable", the member highlights how pathetic that record is—a 30-year average growth rate of 1.6 per cent when the UK average was 2.1 per cent. That is a pathetic record and a comprehensive, multifaceted badge of shame for the Tories and the Labour Party....
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Chamber
06 Oct 2005
Scottish Economy
This is the first economic debate since the publication of the 1974 McCrone report and the pace of political evolution continues apace. This week, 90 per cent of the members of the Catalan Parliament supported a new statute of autonomy, which is in effect a claim of right to t...
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Chamber
09 Nov 2005
Ottakar's (Takeover)
I commend MSP and author Kenny MacAskill for securing the debate. I applaud the three members who have spoken; they have all added weight to a very powerful argument.I speak against a takeover that I believe is against the public interest; it is another takeover that should tr...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
23 Mar 2006
Knowledge Economy
I make two points in response: first, we must work with what we have; and secondly, we must aspire to have something better. I am sure that anyone outside the Parliament would tell the minister that Scottish Enterprise could perform infinitely better than it does on its curren...
Jim Mather: SNP Chamber
23 Mar 2006
Knowledge Economy
Jamie Stone should tell that to the compilers of the world knowledge competitiveness index, because they put Finland in 20th place and Scotland in 83rd place.We are all for the knowledge economy, but the key is to create a knowledge economy that roots wealth in Scotland. If th...
Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP Chamber
25 Oct 2006
Caithness Economy
I, too, congratulate Jamie Stone on securing the debate, and I back the Caithness and north Sutherland socioeconomic strategy. It is a sound strategy, in that it can be summarised in the nicely concise and straightforward objective of increasing the number of working age peopl...
The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather): SNP Chamber
28 Nov 2007
Science and the Parliament
I, too, congratulate Des McNulty on securing the debate, which concerns issues that are crucial to Scotland. I also congratulate the organisers of the science and the Parliament event on yet another successful event this year. Their presence and the debate provide an excellent...
The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather): SNP Chamber
29 Nov 2007
Tourism
I am pleased to open the debate on such an important subject and to encourage people to come up with yet more ideas that can help to improve a key sector. I have no doubt that all members fervently believe in the value of what Scottish tourism can offer visitors, staff in the ...
The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather): SNP Chamber
05 Feb 2009
Financial Sector Jobs Task Force
The Scottish Government agrees with the motion and will propose that a finance sector jobs task force be established within the context of the existing FiSAB arrangements. That will be discussed at the forthcoming FiSAB meeting on 10 February and at the SFE dinner that is plan...
The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather): SNP Chamber
21 May 2009
Supporting Employment
I welcome the debate. Quite rightly, during such difficult times, there have been calls for radical action to be taken to protect employment. The Scottish Government is extremely alert to the need to support employment for people throughout Scotland. We are keen to see skills ...
The Minister for Enterprise, Energy and Tourism (Jim Mather): SNP Chamber
25 Jun 2009
Arbitration (Scotland) Bill: <br />Stage 1
I am delighted to open the debate on the principles of the long-awaited Arbitration (Scotland) Bill. I say "long-awaited" because the possibility of legislation on arbitration in Scotland has been under consideration for at least 20 years.For the benefit of members who are unf...
Jim Mather SNP Chamber
22 Apr 2010
Economy
We are moving on, and we have a situation in which the capital expenditure in Scotland has gone from £3.1 billion, when Labour was last in office, to £3.782 billion, which is an increase of £655 million. There are new and refurbished schools and social work facilities, new...
Jim Mather: SNP Committee
27 Jun 2007
Work Programme
Specific measures include, for example, our business rates proposals, although we acknowledge their limits. We have to galvanise the elements of the portfolio—galvanise enterprise, galvanise tourism, galvanise energy. We have to get the key message across that the energy secto...
Jim Mather: SNP Committee
05 Dec 2007
Budget Process 2008-09
In his book "Boom Bust: House Prices, Banking and the Depression of 2010"—which, I have to say, will probably not happen in 2010—Fred Harrison sets out a very clear vision of a 14-year cycle that will have very severe implications. Of course, it should be pointed out that vari...
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Plenary, 17 Dec 2003

17 Dec 2003 · S2 · Plenary
Item of business
Budget Process 2004-05: Stage 2
Mather, Jim SNP Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV
About three years ago, when I started to take the SNP economic case around the committee rooms and board rooms of Scotland, a director of one of our major civic organisations said that the two key measurements of any Government's performance should be life expectancy relative to other comparable countries and population growth relative to neighbouring countries. He believed that those measurements encompassed a range of issues—economic vibrancy, job availability, job satisfaction, housing, diet and, crucially, personal and national self-esteem.

The more I considered his comments, the more they rang true. Although any normal Government will properly also monitor and control borrowing, spending, growth and taxation in order to balance the books and achieve the best outcome for its people, its overall performance will be reflected, crucially, in life expectancy and population growth. We must face the fact that in Scotland at the start of the 21st century neither life expectancy nor population levels match what is being achieved by any of our western European neighbours.

That is not surprising, given that for 30 years we have underperformed compared to all of them in economic growth. Today, we are reviewing a budget that in the words of one of our expert witnesses, Donald MacRae,

"is more of a series of spending plans than a budget."

In other words we are reviewing a process that is a pale shadow of the budget processes of our competitor nations and that exposes the self-imposed handicap of branch-economy status with ample evidence of direct and collateral damage to the people, fabric and credibility of Scotland. Of the three attributes of real economic management that I mentioned earlier—borrowing, spending and taxation—only spending is really devolved to the Parliament. It is the only complete power that the Executive has to influence outcomes for the people of Scotland. Without its logical companion powers, it is woefully inadequate.

Nevertheless, we are where we are and I will not shrink from my duty of making suggestions for the better management of Scotland's finances under the current settlement, echoing some of the recommendations in the committee report. Three major recommended changes in the report strike me as important. First, there is a need for the restatement of historical financial data on a consistent basis, going back at least 10 years, thus allowing spending trends to be identified and analysed. Secondly, there should be much more comprehensive data on capital expenditure and a more appropriate balance between capital and revenue spending. There is a vital link between capital expenditure and long-term economic growth. Thirdly, we are also looking for a more tangible link between a policy objective being a priority—or even a top priority—and a planned expenditure total and relative percentage increase in that area, reflecting its priority status.

To those points I add a concern, which was voiced earlier, and by several witnesses, that our private sector is shrinking and that there is a danger that we have created conditions that have made us even less entrepreneurial and less likely to achieve the economic growth that we need to achieve. There is concern about the effectiveness of our Government's spending and its ability to achieve its specific objectives, let alone improve the lot of everyone in Scotland.

I will address each of those points in turn and I refer first to comparative data. Peter Drucker, the eminent author and consultant, once said famously, "If you can't measure it, you can't manage it." He was right. Scotland needs, and this Parliament must demand, proper comparative data for 1993-2003 and beyond. Only then will we be able to see the trends in spending and plot the effect of that spending on the measurements that matter to us all, including growth, life expectancy and population level. That is elementary and essential and it must be addressed soon.

Secondly, we need data on, and a healthier emphasis on capital expenditure, not only because that is right and proper—in line with Drucker's comment—but because we all aspire to living in a Scotland that builds infrastructure and assets that are rooted here and that can help us thrive and compete. Yet over the two years in question, the increase in capital expenditure is only 4 per cent, compared to the increase in the operational budget of 13 per cent. Those of us who aspire to taking the mature step of allowing Scotland to be all it can be, and who reject our branch-economy status, are duty-bound to highlight the Executive's excessive emphasis on revenue spending. After all, that is one of the historic problems in the water industry, for which we are all paying a heavy price. Surely sound management practice and painful precedent dictate that the Executive must ensure that there is a better balance in future.

Thirdly, I mentioned priority status, which is crucial, particularly vis-à-vis economic growth, because that continues to elude Scotland and it is no great mystery why. As long as the Executive is content for Scotland to be a branch economy—and to pay the price for that status by allowing Scotland to be a low-wage economy with high migration and low labour productivity—we will fail to realise anything like our considerable potential.

The unsustainable nature of that position is now clear and the key point is this: having made the indefensible choice of allowing Scotland to compete without the full set of macroeconomic tools, the Executive now has to say when the extra public spending is going to produce a revenue payback in terms of a more prosperous and vibrant Scotland and when it will produce better tangible outcomes for patients, parents, pupils, students and those who would like to come back to well-paid jobs in Scotland.

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The Presiding Officer (Mr George Reid): NPA
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Des McNulty (Clydebank and Milngavie) (Lab): Lab
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Jim Mather (Highlands and Islands) (SNP): SNP
About three years ago, when I started to take the SNP economic case around the committee rooms and board rooms of Scotland, a director of one of our major ci...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Murray Tosh): Con
I now call Brian Monteith to close—sorry, to open—for the Conservatives. That was wishful thinking, Brian.
Mr Brian Monteith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con): Con
I assure you, Presiding Officer, that despite the fact that I normally wind up, today I will be opening, although I suspect that my speech might also end up ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer: Con
I call Dr Elaine Murray to open for the Labour party.
Dr Elaine Murray (Dumfries) (Lab): Lab
I see that Rab McNeil is still in the press gallery. He might be bored by Des McNulty, but he thinks that I am a dog.
Mr Monteith: Con
A pedigree, surely.
Dr Murray: Lab
I might be a bit of a mongrel, actually.Anyway, I welcome the opportunity to speak in today's debate, which is about the presentation and the process of repo...
Mr Monteith: Con
Will the member give way?
Dr Murray: Lab
I will just finish the sentence before giving way.Opposition members often say that it is their job to oppose, but their job is not just to oppose but to pro...
Mr Monteith: Con
I wholly agree with the member that it would be beneficial for the Parliament to have alternative budgets to discuss at some stage, but does she agree that t...
Dr Murray: Lab
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Mark Ballard (Lothians) (Green): Green
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Christine May (Central Fife) (Lab): Lab
This is my first year in the Parliament, so it is the first opportunity that I have had to participate in the budget process. I was quite excited about it. M...
Fergus Ewing (Inverness East, Nairn and Lochaber) (SNP): SNP
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Christine May: Lab
I would like the SNP members to say anything with which I could agree—or disagree—but they have not. They have not said how they will fund any of their propo...
Mr David Davidson (North East Scotland) (Con): Con
The member mentioned Peter and Paul. Does not that describe the Arbuthnott formula that the Executive uses to fund our health boards?
Christine May: Lab
No. In the debate last week, the Tories said that they would take money from the national health service and from schools to fund private care. They said tha...
Mr Monteith: Con
Although she is new to the Parliament, the member will know that the official report tries hard to ensure that all quotes and examples that members give in s...
Christine May: Lab
My understanding of what was said last week is that money would be removed and used for the purpose that I suggested.The Greens are too busy hugging trees to...
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Christine May: Lab
I ask the member to let me finish the point. To pretend otherwise to that point of view is to practise deceitful, duplicitous and discreditable behaviour, li...
Alex Neil (Central Scotland) (SNP): SNP
I share Christine May's aspiration that she should make a better speech next year. She started by saying that she had looked forward to the debate with excit...
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Alex Neil: SNP
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Christine May: Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer: Con
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Jeremy Purvis (Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale) (LD): LD
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